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ok im new here. my brother said mis marvel is stronger than raven but i dont belive ok becouse raven has sykick powers ok so she has also the shadow powers and trigon is her father so she has more powers ok
raven is also very nice im watching teen titans and shes so funny.
dont tell im using his account hehehehehehe
raven will win ok. bye and please make raven win becous she is cool
thanks

Raven would stomp Carol so hard. Nothing in Carol's powerset will protect her from being BFR'd. Aside from that, Carol's mental disorders (alcoholism, rage, depression) make her an easy target for empathic assault.

EDIT: This is totally spite btw.

WTH is this??? O_o


Why that pesky little snot!
I guess it's time for me to hide his precious Wii-mote once again

Who the fvck is Misus Marvel?

I think he meant Ms. Marvel..
We were arguing about who'd win between those two a while back.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer


I think he meant Ms. Marvel..
We were arguing about who'd win between those two a while back.

Who the hell thought Ms. Marvel would win?
She has virtually no chance.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
ok im new here. my brother said mis marvel is stronger than raven but i dont belive ok becouse raven has sykick powers ok so she has also the shadow powers and trigon is her father so she has more powers ok
raven is also very nice im watching teen titans and shes so funny.
dont tell im using his account hehehehehehe
raven will win ok. bye and please make raven win becous she is cool
thanks Originally posted by occultdestroyer
WTH is this??? O_o


Why that pesky little snot!
I guess it's time for me to hide his precious Wii-mote once again Heh, your bro pwnd you.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer


I think he meant Ms. Marvel..
We were arguing about who'd win between those two a while back.

Your brother can't spell, but he knows his comics better than you

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Your brother can't spell, but he knows his comics better than you
uhuh

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
uhuh

No, really. I'm curious about your reasoning.

Ms. Marvel is the 'top dog' amongst the elite superheroines in Marvel.

Her strength and speed is far superior than Raven. Most probably even durability.

I don't see her losing to any B-lister.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Ms. Marvel is the 'top dog' amongst the elite superheroines in Marvel.

Her strength and speed is far superior than Raven. Most probably even durability.

I don't see her losing to any B-lister.

Oh, ok. You don't know Raven's powerset.
First off, Raven is an empath. Meaning she can project strong emotions onto Carol. And Carol being as emotionally unstable as she is would be screwed. Aside from that, Ms. Marvel has virtually no way of overcoming Raven's soulself (no matter if Raven defends or attacks with it). In a non PIS fight, Carol wouldn't even touch Raven.

Carol is a B lister by the way. She's pretty much a slower, weaker Starfire.

Originally posted by Konton

Carol is a B lister by the way. She's pretty much a slower, weaker Starfire.
She's actually a C or D-lister, if you know what I mean


Anyway, there are only a handful of superheroines in Marvel who are probably stronger than her (excluding Abstract-level superheroines)

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
She's actually a C or D-lister, if you know what I mean


Anyway, there are only a handful of superheroines in Marvel who are probably stronger than her (excluding Abstract-level superheroines)

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Anyway, there are only a handful of superheroines in Marvel who are probably stronger than her (excluding Abstract-level superheroines)

Invisible Woman, Moonstone (arguably), Psylocke, Polaris, Storm, Jean Grey, She Hulk, Nico Minoru, Selene, Old Captain Marvel, Enchantress ++

I count quite a few.

i thoght he WAS talking about moonstone, not carol.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
She's actually a C or D-lister, if you know what I mean


Anyway, there are only a handful of superheroines in Marvel who are probably stronger than her (excluding Abstract-level superheroines)

I think you're so wrong.
And how Carol stacks up against other Marvel women in general is irrelevant to the fact that Carol has no feasible way to approach Raven without getting mindraped or hurled into another dimension. Raven is unpopular and underrated (partly do to her Phoenix-esk reoccurring storyline of resurrection and saving the world over and over) but she's still in the low herald league.

Most heroes would just give up and leave due to Raven's constant "Batman-esque" Brooding. It would go something like this:

Ms. Marvel: "I'm here to take you out!"
Raven: <brood brood brood>
Ms. Marvel: "Um....hey...over here!"
Raven: "My Father is Trigon...." <more brooding>
Ms. Marvel: "HEY PAY ATTENTION!"
Raven: <BROOD BROOD BROOD!>
Ms. Marvel: (sigh) <leaves>

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Most heroes would just give up and leave due to Raven's constant "Batman-esque" Brooding. It would go something like this:

Ms. Marvel: "I'm here to take you out!"
Raven: <brood brood brood>
Ms. Marvel: "Um....hey...over here!"
Raven: "My Father is Trigon...." <more brooding>
Ms. Marvel: "HEY PAY ATTENTION!"
Raven: <BROOD BROOD BROOD!>
Ms. Marvel: (sigh) <leaves>

Raven isn't even that bad. Aside from Trigon story lines and battles, she's relatively quiet and/or polite.