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blade has standard gear
fights in the swamp

Blade. Lizard has the physical stats to put him down, but is too feral a fighter to avoid getting slashed up enough for Blade to win. Limb regeneration, yes. So he might not die. But enough of that would constitute a KO.

the thing is blade is out classed by a lot but he will still take majority because of his fighting skills and equipment a couple bullets in the lizards brain and its over

Originally posted by weaponx510
the thing is blade is out classed by a lot but he will still take majority because of his fighting skills and equipment a couple bullets in the lizards brain and its over the lizard has a great healing factor and can easily dodge bullets and with him having home field advantage i would give it to lizard 6/10

Naw... Blade works very good in the dark and with his sword i bet the lizard will only tag him few times....which one of the two has a better Healing Factor

Originally posted by weaponx510
Naw... Blade works very good in the dark and with his sword i bet the lizard will only tag him few times....which one of the two has a better Healing Factor what if lizard retreats into the water? and lizard is extremely fast i have no doubt he will tag him more than a few times imo lizard has the better HF

but blade has better equipment

Blade. Skills + kick ass sword = win.

Originally posted by Badabing
Blade. Skills + kick ass sword = win. doubt it lizard is faster 1 tail whip and blade's hands are gone along with his sword

Originally posted by thanos-prime
doubt it lizard is faster 1 tail whip and blade's hands are gone along with his sword

one tail whip and his tail gets cut off

Originally posted by weaponx510
one tail whip and his tail gets cut off blade doesn't have that kind of reaction speed and if he did cut it off it would grow right back

Originally posted by thanos-prime
blade doesn't have that kind of reaction speed and if he did cut it off it would grow right back Blade's blocked gun-fire with a chain and caught a pair of knives that were tossed at him by the hilt by a highly skilled vampire hunter.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade's blocked gun-fire with a chain and caught a pair of knives that were tossed at him by the hilt by a highly skilled vampire hunter. it's not the same when your fighting close quarters and he brings the tail on you he doesn't have good enough reflex speed to dodge it

Originally posted by thanos-prime
it's not the same when your fighting close quarters and he brings the tail on you he doesn't have good enough reflex speed to dodge it You're saying Blade would have a harder time dodging Lizards rather large tail than he would blocking small bullets with a chain?

Originally posted by thanos-prime
blade doesn't have that kind of reaction speed and if he did cut it off it would grow right back

it wouldnt grow back that fast i would give it a couple minutes(at least) before it could grow back thats enought time to cut the rest of the limbs off

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You're saying Blade would have a harder time dodging Lizards rather large tail than he would blocking small bullets with a chain? well yes because if someone has a gun you expect them to shoot but you wouldn't expect him to use the tail and for a vampire blocking it with a chain isn't that impressive DD has ricocheted bullets off his billy club and he is human and thats more of a skill feat then speed feat

Originally posted by thanos-prime
well yes because if someone has a gun you expect them to shoot but you wouldn't expect him to use the tail and for a vampire blocking it with a chain isn't that impressive DD has ricocheted bullets off his billy club and he is human and thats more of a skill feat then speed feat If somebody shoots a bullet at you and you block it with a chain I'm pretty sure you can dodge a guy swinging his massive tail at you which happens to move alot slower than a bullet.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If somebody shoots a bullet at you and you block it with a chain I'm pretty sure you can dodge a guy swinging his massive tail at you which happens to move alot slower than a bullet. like i said its more of a skill feat and how do you know its slower than a bullet?

Originally posted by thanos-prime
like i said its more of a skill feat and how do you know its slower than a bullet? Do you know how fast a bullet moves?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Do you know how fast a bullet moves? [/QUOTE you obviously don't know how fast lizard is you can't compare something you know nothing about

Why don't you educate me?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Why don't you educate me? he is on par with spidey and blade is not that fast not to mention he is stronger than blade

Originally posted by thanos-prime
he is on par with spidey and blade is not that fast not to mention he is stronger than blade That was a short coarse.

blades pretty fast i'm sure he could more that keep up with lizard plus his skill and his heat.

Blade

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Blade how?

Blade is skilled enough to hang, and his sword is strong enough to damage.

He might not take every fight but id give him the majority, won't be easy though.

The uneducated daywalker vs. the swamp reptile communicating college professor with every major vampire strength, claws, healing, tail and hardened skin? Lizard wins.

They're fighting not playing chess.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
They're fighting not playing chess.
haha.

but yeah, i'm not sure exactly how lizards intelligence would come into play here.

Originally posted by Trackz
haha.

but yeah, i'm not sure exactly how lizards intelligence would come into play here. Blade has more knowledge on fighting than Lizard does I'd bet.

Lizard wins.

Originally posted by auskye
The uneducated daywalker vs. the swamp reptile communicating college professor

This has no relevance here, when it comes to fighting, Blade is the professor here!

Originally posted by Juk3n
This has no relevance here, when it comes to fighting, Blade is the professor here! That's right.

Originally posted by Digi
Blade. Lizard has the physical stats to put him down, but is too feral a fighter to avoid getting slashed up enough for Blade to win. Limb regeneration, yes. So he might not die. But enough of that would constitute a KO. qft. The only real problem is Lizard's speed. but Blade should be able to hang

The question that should be asked is, what is "standard gear" to you? Blade uses his titanium acid etched swords greatly, wields an Adamantium Odachi in previous series, as well as uses different types of Automatic/Semi-Automatic firearms and explosives. The only vulnernability to Blade would be the environment, the swamp that the Lizard is use to and would use to his advantage. The Lizard character is stronger than Blade, probably faster too, I'm not accurate on comparisons, but when it comes to fighting, Blade wins because of his experience with weapons and combat. It would be a long, brutal and crazy fight, I'll tell you that much.

lizard. too fast, too strong, much better HF, too vicious

Lizard is a good deal stronger and can heal faster. But if Blade can hang with Spitfire and Dracula's speed he can hang with Lizard I'd assume.

how fast does spitfire move? like 60 mph? apparently cap moves that fast too(mile in a minute)

lizard is either spidey-fast or faster(he has no spidey sense)

Spitfire can run up walls and run aross water. She's faster than Spidey.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
the lizard has a great healing factor and can easily dodge bullets and with him having home field advantage i would give it to lizard 6/10 he doesn't even need to dodge bullets.......he's bullet proof

Originally posted by weaponx510
the thing is blade is out classed by a lot but he will still take majority because of his fighting skills and equipment a couple bullets in the lizards brain and its over
no, he's bullet proof......even if they somehow penetrated(there's been one instance of this), still no......because his healing factor is just that good.

Originally posted by weaponx510
Naw... Blade works very good in the dark and with his sword i bet the lizard will only tag him few times....which one of the two has a better Healing Factor

1.shouldn't curt have the same night vision capabilities of a lizard?
2.one tag could constitute a KO......especially with that tail
3.lizard

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Spitfire can run up walls and run aross water. She's faster than Spidey.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Strength/BladestakesSpitfire.jpg

Originally posted by namorsubby
he doesn't even need to dodge bullets.......he's bullet proof


no, he's bullet proof......even if they somehow penetrated(there's been one instance of this), still no......because his healing factor is just that good.



1.shouldn't curt have the same night vision capabilities of a lizard?
2.one tag could constitute a KO......especially with that tail
3.lizard Would a stake to the heart put him down?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Spitfire can run up walls and run aross water. She's faster than Spidey. i'm pretty sure her official speed is 60 mph.........she may have performed that fast in that short stint with blade in the captain britain series(idk i didn't read it).....but she's not normally that fast.

she's faster running wise(i think spidey's actually been clocked running 72 mph before), but what about combat speed? i've seen namor get the best of her(he grabs her and ties her up)

Originally posted by namorsubby
i'm pretty sure her official speed is 60 mph.........she may have performed that fast in that short stint with blade in the captain britain series(idk i didn't read it).....but she's not normally that fast.

she's faster running wise(i think spidey's actually been clocked running 72 mph before), but what about combat speed? i've seen namor get the best of her(he grabs her and ties her up) Did you see the scan I posted? She can run over the speed of sound according to her handbook.

Namor once called Spitfire the most dangerous member of the Invaders once.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Would a stake to the heart put him down? how could a stake penetrate to his heart?

btw, i doubt it:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-14.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-15.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-22.jpg

Originally posted by namorsubby
how could a stake penetrate to his heart?

btw, i doubt it:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-14.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-15.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-22.jpg Blade sharpens his stakes to the nanopoint.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Did you see the scan I posted? She can run over the speed of sound according to her handbook.

Namor once called Spitfire the most dangerous member of the Invaders once. really? i could've swore her last handbook entry from like 2004 states her around 60 mph(maybe it was the whizzer)

I was also unaware of that second fact.........but seriously, the most dangerous, over him? and Jim Hammond?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade sharpens his stakes to the nanopoint. i still don't know......that large piece of metal still only penentrated due to the strength of a kick from spidey(who was fighting for his life).....and that only momentarily stopped him

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/th_Spitfiredangerous.jpg

I guess she was one of the most dangerous.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/th_Spitfiredangerous.jpg

I guess she was one of the most dangerous. wow.....I've never seen that comic, odd.

still though, i've seen namor take her along with cap rather easily(jim was depowered so he couldn't fight with them). and i don't know how she could even get close to hammond without disenegrating.........but yeah now i think i was wrong about the speed limit......i remember her outrunning bullets in a flashback of the invaders in avengers/invaders #1

Originally posted by namorsubby
i still don't know......that large piece of metal still only penentrated due to the strength of a kick from spidey(who was fighting for his life).....and that only momentarily stopped him Yea, but that isn't anywhere near as sharp as a nanopoint spike.

does it matter? it was sharp enough to penetrate completely through his torso....and he still healed

Originally posted by namorsubby
does it matter? it was sharp enough to penetrate completely through his torso....and he still healed Still may have missed his heart. That's one organ you must protect.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Still may have missed his heart. That's one organ you must protect. yeah, you may be right......but in the case of extreme healers, vital organs sometimes don't really seem to matter at all(perfect example: wolvie)........it defies all logic(even comic logic), but whatcha gonna do?

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/Spider-Man001_15.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/Spider-Man001_17.jpg
idk if these bullets actually penetrated his heart, but there was a gaping hole in his chest....and he arm was hanging on by a thread(he simply rips it off).......these scans actually point out another thing that may be useful in this fight, lizard's virtually limitless tolerance for pain...

also, why does namor look so scruny compared to warrior woman? he's 6'3, 320 pounds for christ's sake.lol

edit:

also, spitfire took her WW down with multiple shots......here hammond one-shots her:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/original%20human%20torch/?action=view&current=017.jpg

sorry, i just like posting hammond feats

oh, and those lizard scans were the one instance of his skin being penetrated by bullets that i was talking about earlier

Blade packs armor piercing rounds sometimes. Those scans show Lizard as susceptible to bullets. I'd be willing to bet a stake to the heart or a stake to the eye would slow him down for a decapation from a adamantium blade.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade packs armor piercing rounds sometimes. Those scans show Lizard as susceptible to bullets. I'd be willing to bet a stake to the heart or a stake to the eye would slow him down for a decapation from a adamantium blade. i'd bet that's not much more than an inconsistency on the writers behalf.......one, because i'm pretty sure civilians don't just walk around with armor piercing(meaning, makes his bullets better than the others?), and two, because.......well, because of these:

this first one's actually his 1st appearance.....and the guy used a shotgun
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/AmazingSpiderman006-02.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/WebofSpider-Man110-04.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/SpectacularSpider-Man127-12.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/WebofSpider-Man110-05.jpg


here he shrugs off an explosion:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_19.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_20.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_21.jpg

coming out unharmed:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man005-09.jpg


how would blade be able to inflict such accurate wounds on an opponent who is IMO faster/more agile? and his stakes may be sharp, but he has at the most just 1/5th the force of spidey, and im not sure he can manage, simply because spidey's kick drove lizard through that shrapneled steel(which lizard's rips to shreds with his claws BTW)

Originally posted by namorsubby
he doesn't even need to dodge bullets.......he's bullet proof


no, he's bullet proof......even if they somehow penetrated(there's been one instance of this), still no......because his healing factor is just that good.



1.shouldn't curt have the same night vision capabilities of a lizard?
2.one tag could constitute a KO......especially with that tail
3.lizard not all bullets are the same, maybe he's resistant against conventional bullets, but blade packs armor piercing rounds and such, i doubt he is resistant to those as well, I might be wrong though.

blade has taken a lot of damage without going down, Lizard isn't one-shotting him, blade has the superior weapon as well as expertise, blade deals with monsters all the time, it won't be a walk in the park but Blade should win this more often than not.

Originally posted by namorsubby
i'm pretty sure her official speed is 60 mph.........she may have performed that fast in that short stint with blade in the captain britain series(idk i didn't read it).....but she's not normally that fast.

she's faster running wise(i think spidey's actually been clocked running 72 mph before), but what about combat speed? i've seen namor get the best of her(he grabs her and ties her up) she's fast in terms of combat sped as well, snoop has the scan i believe, she moved s ofast she wasn't visible then proceeded to unleash a multitude of punches onto an opponent in an instant. spiderman isn't comparable, he has superhuman speed, but not the type that she possesses.

Originally posted by namorsubby
how could a stake penetrate to his heart?

btw, i doubt it:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-14.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-15.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man002-22.jpg

that put him down for a good amount of time, if spiderman weren't crazed with guilt, he would have won the fight right there. Lizard can heal from anything granted he's given the time, against someone ruthless like blade he won't be given that time.

Originally posted by namorsubby
i'd bet that's not much more than an inconsistency on the writers behalf.......one, because i'm pretty sure civilians don't just walk around with armor piercing(meaning, makes his bullets better than the others?), and two, because.......well, because of these:

this first one's actually his 1st appearance.....and the guy used a shotgun
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/AmazingSpiderman006-02.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/WebofSpider-Man110-04.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/SpectacularSpider-Man127-12.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/WebofSpider-Man110-05.jpg


here he shrugs off an explosion:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_19.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_20.jpg
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_21.jpg

coming out unharmed:
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man005-09.jpg


how would blade be able to inflict such accurate wounds on an opponent who is IMO faster/more agile? and his stakes may be sharp, but he has at the most just 1/5th the force of spidey, and im not sure he can manage, simply because spidey's kick drove lizard through that shrapneled steel(which lizard's rips to shreds with his claws BTW) the main advantage blade has is his adamantium sword, is it gets in close the sword is long enough to slice through lizard like butter

Originally posted by Trackz
that put him down for a good amount of time, if spiderman weren't crazed with guilt, he would have won the fight right there. Lizard can heal from anything granted he's given the time, against someone ruthless like blade he won't be given that time. that was a survival knee-jerk reaction from spidey, it says so........blade can't match that kind of speed/reflex time.

also, how would spidey have went about finishing him? with his fists? i dont think so.......he's already impaled half his torso.....what else can he really do(in fact, spidey says a while later in this same issue that he knows he can't kill the lizard)
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_19.jpg

Originally posted by Trackz
the main advantage blade has is his adamantium sword, is it gets in close the sword is long enough to slice through lizard like butter Adamantium sword, nanopoint spikes, and armor piercing rounds and the skill to use them.

I'm betting on Blade. You don't get to be over 100 years old by fighting faires.

they both have weapons, lizard his claws, teeth, and tail.......blades his guns, stakes, and swords and such.

problem is close quarters blade is at the disadvantage. lizard's faster, and i doubt blade can even penetrate his hide with anything but that sword......

i say lizard, because it'll take much more for blade to put lizard down than the other way around.......his healing factor is so much better, and the durability gap is even wider......to me this is almost just like blade vs spidey, but spidey is 2 tons stronger, much more durable, has an insane healing factor, metal shredding claws/teeth, and the viciousness to ultilize his superior speed/agility/reflexes(in other words, no CIS)

Blade took down a vampire Spider-Man....while holding back.

Originally posted by namorsubby
that was a survival knee-jerk reaction from spidey, it says so........blade can't match that kind of speed/reflex time.

also, how would spidey have went about finishing him? with his fists? i dont think so.......he's already impaled half his torso.....what else can he really do(in fact, spidey says a while later in this same issue that he knows he can't kill the lizard)
http://s202.photobucket.com/albums/aa197/namorsubby/the%20lizard/?action=view&current=Spider-Man004_19.jpg lizard can be beaten, and you don't need to kill someone to do that. Plus if lizard lunges at blade in a similar fashion, he leaves himself open to a multitude of different attacks, one well placed stroke would end this fight, or seriously cripple lizard.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade took down a vampire Spider-Man....while holding back. Spiderman > Vampire Spiderman

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade took down a vampire Spider-Man....while holding back. ultimate universe, right?


isn't spidey at like 5 tons there? and a teenager with little experience?

i doubt blade could take down 616 spidey

Originally posted by Mindset
Spiderman > Vampire Spiderman Skills wise maybe. But I'm willing to bet vampire Spidey would fight similar to Lizard.

Originally posted by namorsubby
ultimate universe, right?


isn't spidey at like 5 tons there? and a teenager with little experience?

i doubt blade could take down 616 spidey no, in the ultimate universe he tok out a regular spiderman, (who was scared of him), 616 first issue of his series he took out a vampiric spiderman.

Originally posted by Trackz
lizard can be beaten, and you don't need to kill someone to do that. Plus if lizard lunges at blade in a similar fashion, he leaves himself open to a multitude of different attacks, one well placed stroke would end this fight, or seriously cripple lizard. lol, lizard can't be crippled.......he regrows limbs.......the only thing i could really see working is decapitation.

if he lunges at blade, he won't have the speed to counter before lizard attacks.....he's no spidey.lol

Originally posted by Trackz
no, in the ultimate universe he tok out a regular spiderman, (who was scared of him), 616 first issue of his series he took out a vampiric spiderman. shot him in the kneecaps, right?

you sure that wasn't ult U?

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, lizard can't be crippled.......he regrows limbs.......the only thing i could really see working is decapitation.

if he lunges at blade, he won't have the speed to counter before lizard attacks.....he's no spidey.lol Blade countered a speedblitz from Spitfire. I'm assuming he can do the same with Lizard.

BTW nice work on the Lizard thread.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Skills wise maybe. But I'm willing to bet vampire Spidey would fight similar to Lizard. lizard isn't always savage......he's had varying levels of intelligence from curt level on down

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, lizard can't be crippled.......he regrows limbs.......the only thing i could really see working is decapitation.

if he lunges at blade, he won't have the speed to counter before lizard attacks.....he's no spidey.lol how fast does he regrow limbs?

blade has the speed to react with spitfire, dracula, and spiderman though

Originally posted by Trackz
how fast does he regrow limbs?

blade has the speed to react with spitfire, dracula, and spiderman though spitfire's combat speed has been superceeded by namor before.

dracula isn't faster than spidey

lizard routinely outmanuevers spidey....and blade has no spider-sense

Originally posted by namorsubby
spitfire's combat speed has been superceeded by namor before.

dracula isn't faster than spidey.....and blade has no spider-sense

lizard routinely outmanuevers spidey Let me see this Namor/Spitfire altercations.

Dracula very well might be faster or as fast as Spidey. In Vampire State he showed some very nifty speed.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade countered a speedblitz from Spitfire. I'm assuming he can do the same with Lizard.

BTW nice work on the Lizard thread. thank you.....i miss some stuff though, might revamp it sometime in the distant future

I remember Blade saying something about Dracula moving in eye blinks or some sh!t once.

Originally posted by namorsubby
spitfire's combat speed has been superceeded by namor before.

dracula isn't faster than spidey

lizard routinely outmanuevers spidey....and blade has no spider-sense I would say dracula is definitely faster than spiderman, not as strong but definitely faster, he has on-panel super speed, and he's handled character like werewolf by night and wolverine with one blow.

Originally posted by Trackz
I would say dracula is definitely faster than spiderman, not as strong but definitely faster, he has on-panel super speed, and he's handled character like werewolf by night and wolverine with one blow. Dracula was hauling @ss in this scene. He moved at the very least 20 ft. before his cape hit the ground.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/th_Draculaspeed.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Let me see this Namor/Spitfire altercations.

Dracula very well might be faster or as fast as Spidey. In Vampire State he showed some very nifty speed. sorry it took awhile......i had to dig into my own scans to find it.......the namor respect threads are so dense.lol

i'll just show the whole scene.......because i really like it.lol:
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-47NastyNat.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-48NastyNat.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-49NastyNat.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-50NastyNat.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-51NastyNat.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-52NastyNat.jpg
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-53NastyNat.jpg

Hmmm...he just lifted up the sidewalk and she fell. He also said she was out of practice and back in the day he would have never bested her so easily.

Originally posted by Trackz
I would say dracula is definitely faster than spiderman, not as strong but definitely faster, he has on-panel super speed, and he's handled character like werewolf by night and wolverine with one blow. a character like dracula simply doesn't have the feats to suggest he is on par with or beyond someone like spidey(who is, by acclamation and routine feats, pretty much the fastest reacting/most agile character around)

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Hmmm...he just lifted up the sidewalk and she fell. He also said she was out of practice and back in the day he would have never bested her so easily. he also had time to walk up to her and tie her up with a lightpost.


namor had been a business man for some time in this series......it's not like he's been fighting non-stop either

Originally posted by namorsubby
he also had time to walk up to her and tie her up with a lightpost.


namor had been a business man for some time in this series......it's not like he's been fighting non-stop either Which means she wasn't trying very hard if Namor was able to walk up to her.

lol, my mistake.......the panels never actually show just how he got to her, just him snatching up a lightpost and then tieing her up.i'll admit though she could of very well been stunned by his previous move

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-49NastyNat.jpg
still though, if spitfire is charging towards namor and he still has time to snatch up a piece of his environment as a counter, then he combat speed may very well not be on par with her running speed

She was running in circles around him. Then he grabbed the sidewalk. It was a smart move but nothing to suggest he reacted to her speed.

Here Spitfire attacks Blade directly and he evades the move and kicks her in the gut. And this was a blitz because she was drawn in a blur imo.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20fights/BladevsSpitfire2.jpg

How fast is Namor? I thought he had superspeed to a degree also.

Originally posted by D-Block
How fast is Namor? I thought he had superspeed to a degree also. lol.....oh yeah, i forgot to mention namor has a substantial amount of super-speed/reaction time......dodging lasers, grabbing/dodging mach speed attacks, he's even grabbed a super-speedster(whizzer)

Blade if he had an adamanthium sword.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Here Spitfire attacks Blade directly and he evades the move and kicks her in the gut. And this was a blitz because she was drawn in a blur imo.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20fights/BladevsSpitfire2.jpg according to those scans.......her combat speed is obviously still faster than his.....she slashed him 3 times before he evaded than kicked.

Originally posted by namorsubby
according to those scans.......her combat speed is obviously still faster than his.....she slashed him 3 times before he evaded than kicked. Most likely, but he still evaded what I'm guessing was her killing blow.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol.....oh yeah, i forgot to mention namor has a substantial amount of super-speed/reaction time......dodging lasers, grabbing/dodging mach speed attacks, he's even grabbed a super-speedster(whizzer)

I didn't mean he was on spitfire level it was just a general question

Originally posted by namorsubby
a character like dracula simply doesn't have the feats to suggest he is on par with or beyond someone like spidey(who is, by acclamation and routine feats, pretty much the fastest reacting/most agile character around)

He tooled Black Knight in a sword fight and has owned Wolverine in combat.

Originally posted by namorsubby
according to those scans.......her combat speed is obviously still faster than his.....she slashed him 3 times before he evaded than kicked. obviously, she has super speed and he just has superhuman speed, but the fact that he's able to keep up, and spitfire actually believes he can beat her should get the point across that Blade isnt going to be blitzed by anyone in a fight if he's prepared. If Lizard lunges at him (much slower than spitfire lunging at him) he will be able to react and a good slice from hsi blade will turn the fight in his favor.

Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, my mistake.......the panels never actually show just how he got to her, just him snatching up a lightpost and then tieing her up.i'll admit though she could of very well been stunned by his previous move

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-49NastyNat.jpg
still though, if spitfire is charging towards namor and he still has time to snatch up a piece of his environment as a counter, then he combat speed may very well not be on par with her running speed well namor does say she is out of practice, she had just gotten her powers back and tha the couldn't have beaten her as easily back in her nazi days.

In one of his most recent appearances, Lizard got completely owned by a mostly unarmed Black Cat. Blade wrecks him. And yes bullets travel faster than his tail. Standard .45 round travels at like over 1,400 feet per second.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Blade wrecks him. And yes bullets travel faster than his tail. Standard .45 round travels at like over 1,400 feet per second.

in comics burst/reaction speed for limbs and bodies travel faster than bullets over a short distance. You have 30 years of proof of this, billy club bullert deflection, sai bullet deflection, sword buller deflection.

comics dont rely on real world physics friend.

Then what are we basing this argument on if we cant borrow from real world physics? Its because they are so fast that these deflection speeds are impressive. Part of the feat is speed, and part of it is skill. Regardless, Blade still wins this. Way too many tools available. He could blind him with a grenade, sever all sorts of limbs, or possibly even drink his blood? Also Spider-Man holds back when fighting the Lizard like 100% of the time because of who he is. Thats the main reason Lizard is such a credible threat to him. If he was a Punisher villain he wouldnt have lasted 5 issues.

spidey once attempted to KO the lizard and did nothing but hurt his knuckles on his face.
spidey has admitted that there's no way he can kill him
in his earliest appearances, spidey expresses that he holds back, but since then he's discovered that curt was actually in control the whole time.......and spidey has lost going all out against him on several occasions.

bottom line, the lizard is superior to spidey.......far more than a "credible threadt", spidey never beats the lizard with his fists, only circumstances that arise in the particular issue


also, blade is not biting through lizard skin, nor is he simply hacking away all his body parts as if he doesn't possess the speed to counteract

Originally posted by redhotrash
In one of his most recent appearances, Lizard got completely owned by a mostly unarmed Black Cat. Blade wrecks him. And yes bullets travel faster than his tail. Standard .45 round travels at like over 1,400 feet per second.

lol, black cat was uberly enhanced by the rock of life......and lizard only lost because he witnessed his son being shot(things like that can make for a hell of a distraction)........still though, lizard's extreme healing factor still enabled him to simply walk away from a vicious slice to the throat(cat basically ripped it out), and then a fall of a building which may have shattered every bone in his body. when i think of showings like this, the one where he was impaled, and the one where he was shotted to pieces......it leaves me wondering, what else is really gonna work for blade besides decapitation?

if lizard's tail is fast enough to hit spidey, who routinely dodging point blank bullets with the greatest of ease.......why would he be unable to tag blade before he cut it off?

edit:

oh, and a 45 bullet travels around 800 fps.......1400 fps is extremely fast, pretty much limited to high velocity rifle rounds......in fact, it's still a little faster than most of those

Originally posted by D-Block
I didn't mean he was on spitfire level it was just a general question umm, neither did I

Originally posted by namorsubby
spidey once attempted to KO the lizard and did nothing but hurt his knuckles on his face.
spidey has admitted that there's no way he can kill him
in his earliest appearances, spidey expresses that he holds back, but since then he's discovered that curt was actually in control the whole time.......and spidey has lost going all out against him on several occasions.

bottom line, the lizard is superior to spidey.......far more than a "credible threadt", spidey never beats the lizard with his fists, only circumstances that arise in the particular issue


also, blade is not biting through lizard skin, nor is he simply hacking away all his body parts as if he doesn't possess the speed to counteract that's once, blade was once depicted as bulletproof, we don't go by that, there are plenty of instances of spiderman and other heroes taking the lizard i would believe.


we've shown blade's counteracted vampire spiderman, spitfire(faster than lizard), and Dracula (arguably faster than Lizard) so what makes you think Blade is going to be outmatched in terms of speed?

Originally posted by Trackz
that's once, blade was once depicted as bulletproof, we don't go by that, there are plenty of instances of spiderman and other heroes taking the lizard i would believe.


we've shown blade's counteracted vampire spiderman, spitfire(faster than lizard), and Dracula (arguably faster than Lizard) so what makes you think Blade is going to be outmatched in terms of speed?

he's hurt his hands on his face more than once.......he's only been shown hurting his hands on his face in an actual KO attempt once though......just to add, 10 tons of force is more than blade could ever hope to generate, so he might as well not even use pucnhes or kicks in this fight......they'd be utterly useless.

why? because spidey is already faster than blade........even without his sense........if curt can outmaneuver him or hit him with his tail, then he can do the same to blade most definitely. and he doesn't have class 10 durability

Originally posted by Trackz
that's once, blade was once depicted as bulletproof, we don't go by that, there are plenty of instances of spiderman and other heroes taking the lizard i would believe.


we've shown blade's counteracted vampire spiderman, spitfire(faster than lizard), and Dracula (arguably faster than Lizard) so what makes you think Blade is going to be outmatched in terms of speed? I'm not sure Blade was depicted as bulletproof in that scene. I'm guessing the bullet went in his back.Originally posted by namorsubby
he's hurt his hands on his face more than once.......he's only been shown hurting his hands on his face in an actual KO attempt once though......just to add, 10 tons of force is more than blade could ever hope to generate, so he might as well not even use pucnhes or kicks in this fight......they'd be utterly useless.

why? because spidey is already faster than blade........even without his sense........if curt can outmaneuver him or hit him with his tail, then he can do the same to blade most definitely. and he doesn't have class 10 durability Spidey has already had issues dealing with Jamal Afari's speed and Henry Sage's speed. Those guys are vampires.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I'm not sure Blade was depicted as bulletproof in that scene. I'm guessing the bullet went in his back. Spidey has already had issues dealing with Jamal Afari's speed and Henry Sage's speed. Those guys are vampires.
i dunno, there was no blood or anything, punisher thought he had on kevlar which means he didn't see any blood or anything either.

Originally posted by Trackz
i dunno, there was no blood or anything, punisher thought he had on kevlar which means he didn't see any blood or anything either. I assumed the wound healed instantly.

Spider-Man was hit by his tail the same reason he gets caught by Scorpion's tail, doc Ock's tentacles, or Fancy Frigging Dan's fist: It makes for a more exciting comicbook.

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What is Blade's standard gear?

one hand and a sword wooden stakes and his gun hand full of very soft silver bullets

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
one hand and a sword wooden stakes and his gun hand full of very soft silver bullets Wow.

I wanna say Blade but the swamp puts it in Lizards favore.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Spider-Man was hit by his tail the same reason he gets caught by Scorpion's tail, doc Ock's tentacles, or Fancy Frigging Dan's fist: It makes for a more exciting comicbook.
Typical spiderman fanboy crap.


it could not possibly be becuase there all fast enough to hit him

Agreed about Ock's tantacles especuially concidering there are 4 of them but Fancy Dan is fast enough to hit him? He's just a dude with some karate training, not even a peak human, it's nothing but PIS.
Its just some times even Rhino is shown to be fast enough to hit him and some times people who are 10 times quicker than Rhino aren't fast enough to hit him. So I concider those Rhino/Dan examples as bad showings..

Originally posted by namorsubby
he's hurt his hands on his face more than once.......he's only been shown hurting his hands on his face in an actual KO attempt once though......just to add, 10 tons of force is more than blade could ever hope to generate, so he might as well not even use pucnhes or kicks in this fight......they'd be utterly useless.

why? because spidey is already faster than blade........even without his sense........if curt can outmaneuver him or hit him with his tail, then he can do the same to blade most definitely. and he doesn't have class 10 durability
blade isn't going to be punching lizard, he has an adamantium sword, and blade has already kept up with spiderman and individuals faster/just as fast as spiderman, blade's been knocked a couple of miles by a blast before and got up fine (not sure if the feat is usable though, strange context)

Nah man it was kinda a dream, wasn't it?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
one hand and a sword wooden stakes and his gun hand full of very soft silver bullets Oh and by the way if Blade has his gunhand he wins without much trouble.

Originally posted by Deadline
Nah man it was kinda a dream, wasn't it? yea but it was draculas scheme, and it unfolded the same way (well before MI:13 stopped him). Dracula knows Blade pretty well so I don't see hi assuming that Blade can take something that he can't.

Blade's survived explosions anyways so it don't really matter. He survived the SHIELD aircraft crash landing and he also survived being inside a building blowing up. He's also stood engulfed in flames once before. He's tougher than people assume.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Blade's survived explosions anyways so it don't really matter. He survived the SHIELD aircraft crash landing and he also survived being inside a building blowing up. He's also stood engulfed in flames once before. He's tougher than people assume. he wasn't just engulfed in the flames, i'm pretty sure he was in the explosion of the nuclear facility, you can't be standing in the flames of an explosion and not have felt the force of the explosion itself.

Originally posted by Trackz
he wasn't just engulfed in the flames, i'm pretty sure he was in the explosion of the nuclear facility, you can't be standing in the flames of an explosion and not have felt the force of the explosion itself. I don't think Blade would blow up a building that he was in. Even though he's done it before to try and get his targets.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't think Blade would blow up a building that he was in. Even though he's done it before to try and get his targets. he has done it before, and if you know you can take it I dont see why not, also it's not really possible that the building exploded with him out of it, yet he was seen walking out of h flames of the explosion, it would be possible if the flames fanned out faster than him, but then there's the fact that he is walking faster than they are spreading. It only makes sense that he was in it in my opinion.

Originally posted by Trackz
he has done it before, and if you know you can take it I dont see why not, also it's not really possible that the building exploded with him out of it, yet he was seen walking out of h flames of the explosion, it would be possible if the flames fanned out faster than him, but then there's the fact that he is walking faster than they are spreading. It only makes sense that he was in it in my opinion. I'm guessing he planted the charges, found some cover, blew up the building and was searching the rummage then Micromax called him.

But yea Blade has purposely blown up a building that he was still in so who knows.