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John is in the Kingpins highrise. He just got off the elevator. There is an AK47 near the window about 100 feet away behind a desk. He has to get to it to kill the Kingpin, but Fisk of course won't allow that to happen.

A fight starts. Purely hand to hand. What happens?

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
John is in the Kingpins highrise. He just got off the elevator. There is an AK47 near the window about 100 feet away behind a desk. He has to get to it to kill the Kingpin, but Fisk of course won't allow that to happen.

A fight starts. Purely hand to hand. What happens? Why wouldnt Mac be able to get around the much slower Kingpin?

Because he tagged Daredevil, a flat out superhuman.

I dunno, man, I would like to think McClane can pull it off, but the Kingpin is a beast.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Because he tagged Daredevil, a flat out superhuman.

Yeah but remember Bruce kicked his ass in Armageddon with his shot gun and what not...and we all know Mac is above superhuman level


Mac wins, he kicks kingpin in the nuts, makes fun of his weight, picks up the gun says 'Yippee kai aye motherf*cker' and thus Mac wins

Originally posted by steverules_2
Yeah but remember Bruce kicked his ass in Armageddon with his shot gun and what not...and we all know Mac is above superhuman level


Mac wins, he kicks kingpin in the nuts, makes fun of his weight, picks up the gun says 'Yippee kai aye motherf*cker' and thus Mac wins If we're going to play that game, didn't Michael Clark Duncan have psychic powers in "The Green Mile"?

He was a Jedi haermm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He was a Jedi haermm

Robtard said it himself a few months ago, "Nothing beats The Force". :P

I don't recall this puny lucky human using martial arts skills in die hard..

Kingpin stomps

Neat little scenario. I like Kingpin. The passage way will be long and thin. This works to Fisk's advantage.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I don't recall this puny lucky human using martial arts skills in die hard..

Kingpin stomps

Mac don't need no kung fu...kung fu need Mac ahah

Mac kicks him in the nads and grabs the AK.

Basically what I said

Originally posted by steverules_2
Mac don't need no kung fu...kung fu need Mac ahah


that ain't happening

It just did

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I don't recall this puny lucky human using martial arts skills in die hard..

Kingpin stomps

He used MA blocks on a couple of occasions.
Also he gave a Karl a nice front kick to the head.
(Admittedly, whilst standing on something high.)

But yeah...the rest was more or less boxing based.


Aint nothing puny about this human though.

McClane endures the fatty, then steals his pork pies, and stays on the outside of the bloated walrusman.

He definitely wont be wanting to hang around on the inside against a lardpile of that size for too long. (Incase a lucky hook comes to test the McEndurance/durability) Thats for sure.

Originally posted by steverules_2
It just did

Indeed.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He used MA blocks on a couple of occasions.
Also he gave a Karl a nice front kick to the head.
(Admittedly, whilst standing on something high.)

But yeah...the rest was more or less boxing based.


Aint nothing puny about this human though.

McClane endures the fatty, then steals his pork pies, and stays on the outside of the bloated walrusman.

He definitely wont be wanting to hang around on the inside against a lardpile of that size for too long. (Incase a lucky hook comes to test the McEndurance/durability) Thats for sure.


none of that even matters ,,, the OP clearly states A FIGHT HAPPENS PURELY HAND TO HAND WHAT HAPPENS...

SO no more talk about him getting the gun, HE WON'T

Calm down, mildred, you'll give yourself a headache.

Okay McClane beats the shit out of him H2H in a fight with the trademark McFortuitous outcome.

Also: I said nothing of guns.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Calm down, mildred, you'll give yourself a headache.

Okay McClane beats the shit out of him H2H in a fight with the trademark McFortuitous outcome.

i am always calm...

youtube these fight scenes

I cant seem to.

Nor should I really have to. We all have DVD players.
Put a copy of any Die Hard movie in, and job done.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I cant seem to.

Nor should I really have to. We all have DVD players.
Put a copy of any Die Hard movie in, and job done.

so he doesn't have martial arts skills

MA practitioners all still have jaws/nervous systems/human bodies.

And no non-boxing MA guard system can cope with rapid flurries/combos, either.

McClane never seemed to have too many problems arranging the funerals for all have tried to kill him using non-boxing martial arts.
(Boxing is a martial art)

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
MA practitioners all still have jaws/nervous systems/human bodies.

And no non-boxing MA guard system can cope with rapid flurries/combos, either.

McClane never seemed to have too many problems arranging the funerals for all have tried to kill him using non-boxing martial arts.
(Boxing is a martial art)


I know all about the martial arts since I've mastered five of them...

I just don't McClane will win here is this scenario

It basically comes down to McClane's endurance, since he isn't getting past Fisk. Kingpin hurled Daredevil across his room without even getting winded. I believe he also crushed someones head in the movie with just his one hand.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I know all about the martial arts since I've mastered five of them...

I just don't McClane will win here is this scenario

Yet you overrate their effectiveness guardwise...and failed to recognise Boxing as a martial art.

Fair enough.

Whats so hard about Mac kicking KP in the nads and getting the AK?

Unarmed.

So Kingpin doesnt have one to acquire, I guess.

No problems other wise though, although where they are on a fat bastard like thatis anyone's guess. Kingpin himself, probably hasnt seen his own dick in 20 years.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Unarmed.

So Kingpin doesnt have one to acquire, I guess.

No problems other wise though, although where they are on a fat bastard like thatis anyone's guess. Kingpin himself, probably hasnt seen his own dick in 20 years.

Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
John is in the Kingpins highrise. He just got off the elevator. There is an AK47 near the window about 100 feet away behind a desk. He has to get to it to kill the Kingpin, but Fisk of course won't allow that to happen.

A fight starts. Purely hand to hand. What happens?

Then if so, McClane, master of on site acquirement claims vistory after turning Kingpin to just another lead filled skittele.

Thats On Site PROCUREMENT

Mine works too.

He would acquire the AK and use it.

This thread is silly, as it stipulates McClane has to get the AK to win, when he could just beat the piss out of him h2h. Kingpin was dropped by a blind-guy via a double-knee kick, guy's nothing but smoke and mirrors.

-McClane can pull off a knee-kick, then go get the AK, if he wanted.

-McClane could dodge/evade the large slow man and get the AK that way.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Robtard
This thread is silly, as it stipulates McClane has to get the AK to win, when he could just beat the piss out of him h2h. Kingpin was dropped by a blind-guy via a double-knee kick, guy's nothing but smoke and mirrors.

-McClane can pull off a knee-kick, then go get the AK, if he wanted.

-McClane could dodge/evade the large slow man and get the AK that way. Agreed, but dude, give DD some credit. He is far more than some blind dude.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Agreed, but dude, give DD some credit. He is far more than some blind dude.

He's a total bad-ass, but when he fought Kingpin, he was exhausted and wounded.

But still badass.

Still didnt see it yet. Its probably been on telly too.