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who wins.

Team 2

King Thor and Thanos would be a good fight to behold. This is a tough choice....

Team 2. Thor will have to work a bit, but he will overcome Thanos and would one shot Surfer

T 2

Team 1.

Loki solos.

Absorbs power or takes over their bodies.

Team two Thor wrecks shit.

Team 2 Thors going to give Thanos another Odinpowered whooping.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/ThorGodstormBook3-16.jpg

Thanos gets some of that. Loki can easily absorb the energy of someone who's stronger than both him and Thor.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/ThorGodstormBook3-16.jpg

Thanos gets some of that. Loki can easily absorb the energy of someone who's stronger than both him and Thor. OMG that's bloody awesome

Originally posted by iceman24567
OMG that's bloody awesome

I have some stuff Loki did with Odin that I'm saving for a potential tourney.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Loki solos.

Absorbs power or takes over their bodies. Loki isn't absorbing Thanos' power. Originally posted by iceman24567
Team two Thor wrecks shit. Do you feel King Thor is equal/lessthan/greater than Odin?Originally posted by DarkOdin
Team 2 Thors going to give Thanos another Odinpowered whooping. Thanos has gotten more powerful since then. Odin never defeated him anyways.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Loki isn't absorbing Thanos' power. Do you feel King Thor is equal/lessthan/greater than Odin? Thanos has gotten more powerful since then. Odin never defeated him anyways.

agreed Loki abosrbing thanos' power is not going to happened.

King Thor is as stroung or stronger then Odin

thanos getting more powerful is all well and find but he still hasn't the tools to beat King Thor.

H2H Thanos is handicapped as Thor has Mjolnir and the odinpower to amp.

Energy based attack Thanos fafiled to hurt Odin with his blast given the fact that Thor has one the same Odinpower to amp his durabilty and the fact that Mjolnir can amp any blast of the Odinpower Thor's chooses he outclass thanos again.

Thanos upgrades still don't stack to the Odinpower.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
agreed Loki abosrbing thanos' power is not going to happened.

Funny how he absorbed the power of someone around Thanos' level

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/ThorGodstormBook3-16.jpg

Thanos gets some of that. Loki can easily absorb the energy of someone who's stronger than both him and Thor.

Yet he's got beat but lesser than Thanos? Shoot Thor has owned loki how many times and Thanos has dealt with that same Thor with ease. Is this King Thor the same Thor that didn't really have all/most of the Odin power, yet he beats Thanos? Explain. King Thor isn't Odin yet people are acting like he is or RKT. By the way Loki gets dealt with rather easily by Thanos or Surfer can take him after more of a struggle.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
agreed Loki abosrbing thanos' power is not going to happened.

King Thor is as stroung or stronger then Odin

thanos getting more powerful is all well and find but he still hasn't the tools to beat King Thor.

H2H Thanos is handicapped as Thor has Mjolnir and the odinpower to amp.

Energy based attack Thanos fafiled to hurt Odin with his blast given the fact that Thor has one the same Odinpower to amp his durabilty and the fact that Mjolnir can amp any blast of the Odinpower Thor's chooses he outclass thanos again.

Thanos upgrades still don't stack to the Odinpower. How doesn't he?

Thor's hammer has never been the deciding factor before so why should it now? Thor is more powerful by a lot but he doesn't have the experience to beat a more powerful Thanos when Odin failed to defeat a less powerful Thanos despite his eons with the odinpower.

The upgrade makes all the difference. Thanos wins. He pulls out his shields, etc. and takes Thor out.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Funny how he absorbed the power of someone around Thanos' level

On the fly he did this or with prep???

Originally posted by quanchi112
How doesn't he?

Thor's hammer has never been the deciding factor before so why should it now? Thor is more powerful by a lot but he doesn't have the experience to beat a more powerful Thanos when Odin failed to defeat a less powerful Thanos despite his eons with the odinpower.

The upgrade makes all the difference. Thanos wins. He pulls out his shields, etc. and takes Thor out.

Thor's hammer plus the Odinpowered is more then enough to put Thanos down.

When seen Thanos get rocked twice during the IG saga by Thor i guess you forgot that??

Odin failedl lol.

You now fully well if warlock didn't stop Odin Thanos would of be KOED.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
On the fly he did this or with prep???

He had to cast a spell to make the elemental's power absorbable. There is no logical argument why he could not cast the same spell on Thanos. It did not require any kind of items or magical focusing device.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thor's hammer plus the Odinpowered is more then enough to put Thanos down.

When seen Thanos get rocked twice during the IG saga by Thor i guess you forgot that??

Odin failedl lol.

You now fully well if warlock didn't stop Odin Thanos would of be KOED. Thanos was fooling around with them. it was masterson anyways and he was taking on all kinds of heroes and they had the whole misdirection thing going for them. Thanos took on Thor with the power gem for fun. He ended up getting just a bloody nose with his increased power.

He did. Thanos still was standing while fuming waiting to tear Odin apart.

Speculation at best.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos still was standing while fuming waiting to tear Odin apart.

Speculation at best.

Yes, speculation at best.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He had to cast a spell to make the elemental's power absorbable. There is no logical argument why he could not cast the same spell on Thanos. It did not require any kind of items or magical focusing device.

i guess it is feasable then but not everytime i think SS or thanos would not allow what everytime needed to use the spell.

Then again they don't need to

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yes, speculation at best. The point is Thanos wanted his ass. odin was in the wrong and jumped the gun. he also failed to koo Thanos when he admitted he was trying to kill him. This is also before his final upgrade. Doesn't bode well for King Thor supporters here. What we do know is that Thanos can take an out to kill Odin's blasts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was fooling around with them. it was masterson anyways and he was taking on all kinds of heroes and they had the whole misdirection thing going for them. Thanos took on Thor with the power gem for fun. He ended up getting just a bloody nose with his increased power.

He did. Thanos still was standing while fuming waiting to tear Odin apart.

Speculation at best.

Yup a lesser Thor still was able to rock a power gem thanos. thanks for pointing that out.

Thanos had to trap Thor in the cube prison to stop Thor. thanos even said that Thor's power was growing and he wouldn't be able to hold him.

Mind you the same prison Odin busted right out off.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Yup a lesser Thor still was able to rock a power gem thanos. thanks for pointing that out.

Thanos had to trap Thor in the cube prison to stop Thor. thanos even said that Thor's power was growing and he wouldn't be able to hold him.

Mind you the same prison Odin busted right out off. He knocked him down and guess what so did spiderman. They had misdirection and Thanos giving them a show.

Yes, but despite his huge increase he was still getting stalemated by Thanos. he wasn't physically beatable so when Thanos tired of his rant Thanos beat him. Thanos fought him for his amusement only it seems.

I never said that this force block would work on King Thor only it worked on power gem Thor.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yes, speculation at best.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor_vol2-523-021-17.jpg

This however, is not. Thanos' cloned, confirms that Thanos lost.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
i guess it is feasable then but not everytime i think SS or thanos would not allow what everytime needed to use the spell.

Then again they don't need to

You guess it's feasible? Loki needs to cast a spell, and he can reach their powerlevel by being struck.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor_vol2-523-021-17.jpg

This however, is not. Thanos' cloned, confirms that Thanos lost.



You guess it's feasible? Loki needs to cast a spell, and he can reach their powerlevel by being struck.

with CIS on he won't used it. Plus SS is more then fast enough to stop him from casting the spell.

With no-CIS he would use it everytime.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
with CIS on he won't used it. Plus SS is more then fast enough to stop him from casting the spell.

With no-CIS he would use it everytime.

With CIS on? CIS is what we have in the comics, where he used it. Power theft has twice happened when he's dealt with beings twice as powerful. With this, and during the incident with Dormammu, which left him mad.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/lokivsdormammu-1.jpg (Thanks Mike)

The next scan, which I do not have. Loki is struck by the...flashlight facepalm and he obtains a ridiculous increase in power. So great that Thor and Firelord become almost insignificant. Just from being struck by it.

First of all, you presume to know how he cast this spell, how long it took, that he needed to physically do something, and that SS is fast enough to stop him.

We never actually see Loki cast the spell. There's also the fact that we have no reason to assume that Surfer is actually faster than him. Loki has plenty of speed feats on his own, among one of those things is his interstellar teleportation, which is instant.

Lots of speed:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery085-03.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-03.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-06.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery108-14.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery108-15.jpg

And while we're at it, telepathy! Strong enough to make Dr.Strange and his amulet almost pass out:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery108-16.jpg

And this is how it is for him to cast a spell that causes to turn the Troll's battle around:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery115-19.jpg

Invisibility:
1 - http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/ThorGodstormBook01-10.jpg

2 - http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Thor_441-07.jpg

3 - http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor397-17.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor397-18.jpg

Sooner or later this will attract the Surferfaggots, which I have no time to deal with. Safe to say, there's no reason to believe that Surfer is faster than Loki.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
With CIS on? CIS is what we have in the comics, where he used it. Power theft has twice happened when he's dealt with beings twice as powerful. With this, and during the incident with Dormammu, which left him mad.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/lokivsdormammu-1.jpg (Thanks Mike)

The next scan, which I do not have. Loki is struck by the...flashlight facepalm and he obtains a ridiculous increase in power. So great that Thor and Firelord become almost insignificant. Just from being struck by it.

First of all, you presume to know how he cast this spell, how long it took, that he needed to physically do something, and that SS is fast enough to stop him.

We never actually see Loki cast the spell. There's also the fact that we have no reason to assume that Surfer is actually faster than him. Loki has plenty of speed feats on his own, among one of those things is his interstellar teleportation, which is instant.

Lots of speed:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery085-03.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-03.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-06.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery108-14.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery108-15.jpg

And while we're at it, telepathy! Strong enough to make Dr.Strange and his amulet almost pass out:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery108-16.jpg

And this is how it is for him to cast a spell that causes to turn the Troll's battle around:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery115-19.jpg

Invisibility:
1 - http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/ThorGodstormBook01-10.jpg

2 - http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Thor_441-07.jpg

3 - http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor397-17.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor397-18.jpg

Sooner or later this will attract the Surferfaggots, which I have no time to deal with. Safe to say, there's no reason to believe that Surfer is faster than Loki.

Not saying he is faster but fast enough to stop it. Anyway Loki won't use it anyway as neither Thanos or SS is that kind of threat where loki will need/or think of doing.

Plus that fact that you said he only used this ability twice so with CIS on i don't see him using it to get a 10 out 10 victory. Plus the fact that loki would be attacking surfer over thanos given King Thor is on his side Loki would not have bother with such a tatic.

Heck that like saying Thor soul suck both thanos and SS. "which he could"

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Not saying he is faster but fast enough to stop it. Anyway Loki won't use it anyway as neither Thanos or SS is that kind of threat where loki will need/or think of doing.

Plus that fact that you said he only used this ability twice so with CIS on i don't see him using it to get a 10 out 10 victory. Plus the fact that loki would be attacking surfer over thanos given King Thor is on his side Loki would not have bother with such a tatic.

Heck that like saying Thor soul suck both thanos and SS. "which he could"

It's clearly a tactic Loki resorts to when he's fighting someone stronger than him.

Also, this is pretty god damned weak of you. I provided you with several ways which would make it very difficult for Surfer to attack Loki, AND examples of how Loki needs to do -nothing- to cast spells. Yet you persist that Surfer will interrupt him. HOW? Loki casted the spell without doing anything! Intangibility, invisibility, teleportation and speed. His invisibility is so great that not even Seth could see him.

Loki can also easily use his powers when invisible/intangible:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor398-13.jpg

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It's clearly a tactic Loki resorts to when he's fighting someone stronger than him.

Also, this is pretty god damned weak of you. I provided you with several ways which would make it very difficult for Surfer to attack Loki, AND examples of how Loki needs to do -nothing- to cast spells. Yet you persist that Surfer will interrupt him. HOW? Loki casted the spell without doing anything! Intangibility, invisibility, teleportation and speed. His invisibility is so great that not even Seth could see him.

Loki can also easily use his powers when invisible/intangible:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor398-13.jpg Even Loki admits he doesn't use that power much.

yes he can use it but it is in Character for him not too. CIS on and for you to argue against CIS is pointless. Yes Loki has a ton of way to fightw hile avoiding surfer but that doesn't change the fact he won't use. it.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Even Loki admits he doesn't use that power much.

yes he can use it but it is in Character for him not too. CIS on and for you to argue against CIS is pointless. Yes Loki has a ton of way to fightw hile avoiding surfer but that doesn't change the fact he won't use. it.

bull-fukcing-shit.

Loki rarely fights, and he very rarely fights someone more powerful than him. You're claiming that he doesn't use this powers much, then you can not have read many of Loki's appearances. If you actually know -anything- about this guy, you'll know how seldom he fights and how insanely skilled he is at combat.

You're claiming he won't use any of these tactics, how is that? Show me some incidents of Loki fighting like an idiot, type Thanos or Thor. The incidents I've referred to already covers the majority of Loki's big fights

Mephisto down:
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/1531/thor18111nv1.jpg (Thanks mike or ash)

Restricts Thor easily:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-02.jpg

Hypno:
1- http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery085-07.jpg
2 - http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery094-06.jpg

Creates an actual damn copy of Thor like that:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery085-08.jpg

He can give things odd properties, like magnetizing Thor's hammer (Which it is usually unaffected by):
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery092-08.jpg

Reality warping:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-08.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-09.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-10.jpg

More illusions:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery094-11.jpg

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Loki vs Surtur - Hurting Surtur multiple times and using duplicates.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3717/thor198535305cm3.th.jpghttp://img139.imageshack.us/img139/974/thor198535306qv3.th.jpg

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
bull-fukcing-shit.

Loki rarely fights, and he very rarely fights someone more powerful than him. You're claiming that he doesn't use this powers much, then you can not have read many of Loki's appearances. If you actually know -anything- about this guy, you'll know how seldom he fights and how insanely skilled he is at combat.

You're claiming he won't use any of these tactics, how is that? Show me some incidents of Loki fighting like an idiot, type Thanos or Thor. The incidents I've referred to already covers the majority of Loki's big fights

i suggest you reread my post.

Let's try this again.

Loki won't be using he power/draining ability for this battle. That is it!!!

I suggest you reread mine.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He had to cast a spell to make the elemental's power absorbable. There is no logical argument why he could not cast the same spell on Thanos. It did not require any kind of items or magical focusing device.



Originally posted by DarkOdin
i guess it is feasable then but not everytime i think SS or thanos would not allow what everytime needed to use the spell.

Then again they don't need to


Like is said before he is not going to use that one power everytime.

If you want to go by the CIS argument fine, the odds are on my side anyway. There are 4 or so incidents where Loki's fought someone much more powerful than him. 3 of those incidents he ended up with their power.

Odin, Dormammu and The Godstorm.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
If you want to go by the CIS argument fine, the odds are on my side anyway. There are 4 or so incidents where Loki's fought someone much more powerful than him. 3 of those incidents he ended up with their power.

Odin, Dormammu and The Godstorm.

So Loki only used this ability once against Odin out of how many times they have had a conflict???

Loki wouldn't fight Thanos in this match up he would let Thor fight in character Loki would must likely match-up to SS.

then Even if Loki face-off agasint Thanos It wouldn't take Thor long to slap SS around and be on Thanos. Eitherway Loki would not need to resort to using it. He powerset should be able to handle SS just fine and Thanos will not be able to take Loki down before Thor gets involved

Ummmm did somebody say Thanos isn't above Loki? That is just fing hilarious as he would poop all over Loki. Also, Thanos has a lot of powers he rarely uses and yet Kris wants to use some thing that loki has rarely used. Plus i might add.. those tactics in the end failed

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Loki wouldn't fight Thanos in this match up he would let Thor fight in character Loki would must likely match-up to SS.

then Even if Loki face-off agasint Thanos It wouldn't take Thor long to slap SS around and be on Thanos. Eitherway Loki would not need to resort to using it. He powerset should be able to handle SS just fine and Thanos will not be able to take Loki down before Thor gets involved

Nobody determines the matchups here

Regardless, that sounds right to me.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
So Loki only used this ability once against Odin out of how many times they have had a conflict???

It's completely different. Odin is a magician as well, he is actually wiser and a better magician. This is also the case why Loki would not be able to do it against Surtur.

Loki would be able to pull this tactic against Thanos, but not against Doctor Strange. Catch my drift?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze



It's completely different. Odin is a magician as well, he is actually wiser and a better magician. This is also the case why Loki would not be able to do it against Surtur.

Loki would be able to pull this tactic against Thanos, but not against Doctor Strange. Catch my drift? got ya

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Nobody determines the matchups here

Regardless, that sounds right to me.



It's completely different. Odin is a magician as well, he is actually wiser and a better magician. This is also the case why Loki would not be able to do it against Surtur.

Loki would be able to pull this tactic against Thanos, but not against Doctor Strange. Catch my drift?

Show me a time when Magic has worked against Thanos... Before you say.. Warlock.... lets remember he was doing so through the Soul Gem. Hardly normal standard magic. Plus this was before a few Thanos upgrades. Strange even says.. he can't stand up to Thanos.... Hmmm he has very good magical abilites and yet he feels it would be worthless against Thanos... Yet Loki's magic would do the trick.. lol come on. Lets not forget that Thanos has also studied black magic for years and years and thus maybe that is why strange feels as he does. Point is, Loki gets beat by Thanos and Kris arguing otherwise is amusing.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/Thor_vol2-523-021-17.jpg

This however, is not. Thanos' cloned, confirms that Thanos lost.



You guess it's feasible? Loki needs to cast a spell, and he can reach their powerlevel by being struck. That was a clone gone bad. That doesn't trump the actual fight with Thanos standing right next to Odin when he stands down. You can't use some clones opinion to trump the actual comic itself. Thanos was losing but hadn't lost yet. My opinion always supports the books.