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Someone made a valid argument earlier today about Broly vs Cell.Cell is my favorite DBZ character and of course I said he would win.Until someone broke it down for me.This guy says Broly is a Saiya-jin and like any Saiya-jin he gets stronger by fighting or after every near death experience obviously.He said Broly survived Goku's punch that ripped his knife wound (the one received as a baby).Broly fought 4 SSJ and a Namek at the same time and beat them all.Cell fought these guys one on one.He sent me a website of the DBZ TCG and Broly's level 4 power level is 5,300,000 and Cell's level 5 power level is only 4,300,000.Cell plays around a lot so I wouldn't be suprised if that overgrown ape Broly blew up the planet killing everything on it and somehow survivng himself...

Broly because his power is maximum

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Broly because his power is maximum

Cell because he's a much better character. His screams are hilarious. NO CHANCE! YOU HAVE NO CHANCE!

~ Depends which version of Cell is fighting. Any form below Perfect Cell loses, badly. Super Perfect has a fighting chance.

Super Perfect Cell could beat the same saiyans Brolly beat. Any powel level after the Freiza saga are just fans opinions.

Broly, because he took on ALL of the Saiyans at once. Cell could barely handle Goku by himself.

Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
Broly, because he took on ALL of the Saiyans at once. Cell could barely handle Goku by himself.

That Goku had yet to reach ASSJ, and no, Broly handled all of the Z warriors more or less effortlessly.

Dude, Vegeta and Trunks both took on ASSJ forms.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
That Goku had yet to reach ASSJ, and no, Broly handled all of the Z warriors more or less effortlessly.

iirc, That Goku was in a Super Saiyan form that was considered above ASS (no pun intended).

EDIT: Nevermind, you were talking about the Goku that fought against Broly.

Didn't the opening narration imply that the movie took place during the ten-day wait?

Who would win in an actual fight? Brolly

Who do I like more? Cell

DBZ TCG is NOT canon.

Oh, and it depends on which Broly you are talking about, the one in the earlier movie or the later one.

super trunks power level was way above perfect cell's he was just too slow to do anything. broly is a fast version of super trunks.

And stronger. And more durable. And more powerful.

most definitely. Broly pummels Cell into mush. anyone who can pwn Goku, Gohan, Piccolo, Vegeta, and Trunks like that is powerful. Cell had to fight them one on one. Goku and Gohan in their full power SS forms were able to hod their own against him, but against Broly, they were just slaughtered for the most part.

Broly erased a galaxy, although they said over and over' that Cell would "destroy the universe".

DBZ says that alot.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Dude, Vegeta and Trunks both took on ASSJ forms.

He meant that Gohan and Goku were not Full Power Super Saiyans.

Originally posted by dadudemon
He meant that Gohan and Goku were not Full Power Super Saiyans. No he didn't.

He said ASSJ.

Ascended Super Saiyans.

The form Vegeta, Trunks, and Goku can take.

Also, how do we know they did not take on FSSJ forms? There is almost no difference in appearance.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No he didn't.

Yes he did. He just used the wrong term (I've done that a shit load of times, as well. Cut the guy a break.) Ask him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He said ASSJ.

Ascended Super Saiyans.

The form Vegeta, Trunks, and Goku can take.

Also, how do we know they did not take on FSSJ forms? There is almost no difference in appearance.


This debate has already been had with Kento...and in much greater detail than I care to go into detail with.


Needless to say, the debate ended with Broli appearing to be a tad below Perfect Cell (Not super perfect cell, but Cell going all out like he did with Goky in the Cell games...he held back against Trunks and Vegeta when he fought them right after being done. That version would be weaker than Broli...because he was holding back.) in overall ability.

Goku can keep up with Perfect Cell and he was just a tiny bit below him.

Broli does not have Cell's regenerative ability...therefore, Broli would lose against the FPSSJ Goku. He would get his ass stomped by Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan.

Broli's power falls somewhere in between ASSJ and FPSSJ...but MUCH closer to FPSSJ.

Originally posted by Overdose
Broly erased a galaxy, although they said over and over' that Cell would "destroy the universe".

DBZ says that alot.

no he didnt blow up the galaxy in the beginning of the first movie that diagram shows the galaxy being destroyed over a period of time. If it were all to be one blast it would start from the center out. but the galaxy was shown to be destroyed in different places one after anothe until there was nothing left.



Now another thing people keep on saying broly fought 4 ssj and piccolo at once. Well guess what ssj2 gohan KILLED like 7 cell jrs each of them are stronger than the 4 ssjs broly fought. This feat is better than broly's. Making gohan stronger than broly at this point. Now super perfect cell was about equal to gohan or maybe just a lil bit weaker.

That is why i say cell wins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqz5RSdQ0Kw


pure ownage

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes he did. He just used the wrong term (I've done that a shit load of times, as well. Cut the guy a break.) Ask him.




This debate has already been had with Kento...and in much greater detail than I care to go into detail with.


Needless to say, the debate ended with Broli appearing to be a tad below Perfect Cell (Not super perfect cell, but Cell going all out like he did with Goky in the Cell games...he held back against Trunks and Vegeta when he fought them right after being done. That version would be weaker than Broli...because he was holding back.) in overall ability.

Goku can keep up with Perfect Cell and he was just a tiny bit below him.

Broli does not have Cell's regenerative ability...therefore, Broli would lose against the FPSSJ Goku. He would get his ass stomped by Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan.

Broli's power falls somewhere in between ASSJ and FPSSJ...but MUCH closer to FPSSJ. 1. Or maybe he didn't and used the right term, why are you assuming he was just using the wrong term, have you talked to him? Until he comes in here and says he meant FSSJ, we should conclude he meant ASSJ.

2. I don't care what debate Kento beat your ass in sir.

A tad below the Perfect Cell was had his torso blown to pieces by ASSJ Vegeta? Holding back or not, his durability was the same, and ASSJ Vegeta could not so much as harm Broly and was completely dominated by him, hell, an attack by ASSJ Vegeta did not even harm Broly in SSJ form. USSJ Trunks, by Cell's own words, was more powerful than him, but he was much slower. Broly is above Perfect Cell.

No, he just has almost complete invulnerability to the attacks of FPSSJ Goku, and has shown to be far more powerful than Perfect Cell, and silly goose, he has already beaten SSJ2 Gohan.

3. Goku and Gohan WERE FPSSJ, and FPSSJ is not that much stronger than ASSJ, it is more energy efficient however, and is not stronger than USSJ per say, but does not reduce speed and like ASSJ is more energy efficient.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Or maybe he didn't and used the right term, why are you assuming he was just using the wrong term, have you talked to him? Until he comes in here and says he meant FSSJ, we should conclude he meant ASSJ.

2. I don't care what debate Kento beat your ass in sir.

A tad below the Perfect Cell was had his torso blown to pieces by ASSJ Vegeta? Holding back or not, his durability was the same, and ASSJ Vegeta could not so much as harm Broly and was completely dominated by him, hell, an attack by ASSJ Vegeta did not even harm Broly in SSJ form. USSJ Trunks, by Cell's own words, was more powerful than him, but he was much slower. Broly is above Perfect Cell.

No, he just has almost complete invulnerability to the attacks of FPSSJ Goku, and has shown to be far more powerful than Perfect Cell, and silly goose, he has already beaten SSJ2 Gohan.

3. Goku and Gohan WERE FPSSJ, and FPSSJ is not that much stronger than ASSJ, it is more energy efficient however, and is not stronger than USSJ per say, but does not reduce speed and like ASSJ is more energy efficient.

I don't think you understand: nothing I said was debatable. I've already been through pages and thousands of words on this subject. What I said was literally final. Any contradictions are lesser forms of correctness. I am dead serious.

Originally posted by yungz22
no he didnt blow up the galaxy in the beginning of the first movie that diagram shows the galaxy being destroyed over a period of time. If it were all to be one blast it would start from the center out. but the galaxy was shown to be destroyed in different places one after anothe until there was nothing left. I don't think that's true at all. I wouldn't even try to use real world logic and physics to explain much of anythin in DBZ. If we did then we would have to apply it to er other anime and no body would have destroyed anything and we could claim that er feat is accomplished over a period of time.

Originally posted by Overdose
I don't think that's true at all. I wouldn't even try to use real world logic and physics to explain much of anythin in DBZ. If we did then we would have to apply it to er other anime and no body would have destroyed anything and we could claim that er feat is accomplished over a period of time.

No matter what ki blasts explode and that was not the after effect of a ki blast

Broly's power level can be as high as people want it to be. He's a fangasm character.
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Originally posted by yungz22
No matter what ki blasts explode and that was not the after effect of a ki blast Alls I know is, I saw the galaxy black out and King Kai said it was detsroyed, why would I think anything else? For all we know Broly wasn't even in that galaxy. He coulda just shot a blast in it from out side the galaxy toward it's edge.

Originally posted by Overdose
Alls I know is, I saw the galaxy black out and King Kai said it was detsroyed, why would I think anything else? For all we know Broly wasn't even in that galaxy. He coulda just shot a blast in it from out side the galaxy toward it's edge.


Actually it was the narrorator and he siad it was shattered/
Oh and if brolly hit it from the side it would be destroyed from that side in.