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Using the power levels tier guide being used here in KMC (low-high street leveler, low-high meta, low-high herald, low-high trans, low-high skyfather, low-high abstract), rate your favorite character's abilities using this criteria:

Agility
Durability
Energy Projection
Fighting Ability
Intelligence
Mental Power
Reflexes
Speed
Speed (Flight)
Stamina
Strength
Overall

I'll start:

Silver Surfer
Agility: High Meta
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: High Herald
Fighting Ability: Low Meta
Intelligence: High Meta
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: High Street Level
Speed: (Flight): Low Trans
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: Mid Herald
Overall: High Herald

Superman
Agility: Low Herald
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: Mid Herald
Fighting Ability: High Meta
Intelligence: Low Meta
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: Mid Herald
Speed: (Flight): High Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald
Overall: High Herald

WWH
Agility: Low Meta
Durability: High Herald (HF)
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: Low Meta
Intelligence: High Street Leveler
Mental Power: N/A
Reflexes: Mid Meta
Speed: High Meta
Speed: (Flight): N/A
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald-Low Trans (at full anger)
Overall: Mid Herald

Juggernaught
Agility: Mid Street Leveler
Durability: Mid Trans
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: High Street Leveler
Intelligence: Low Street Leveler
Mental Power: N/A (High Herald resistance)
Reflexes: Mid Street Leveler
Speed: Mid Street Leveler
Speed: (Flight): N/A
Stamina: Low Trans
Strength: High Herald (Mid Trans forward momentum)
Overall: Mid Herald

That's crazy.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That's crazy.

Why?

Daredevil;

Agility - 1 tier above Batman
Durability - 1 tier below Batman, because the Batsuit has more pockets.
Energy Projection - Mid-Herald, but holds back because he only works a small area and doesn't want to damage property.
Fighting Ability - Same tier as Batman, but ranks above him because of radar.(sans batgadgets obviously)
Intelligence - Tier below Batman.
Mental Power - Same as Batman.
Reflexes - Same Tier as the Bat, but ranks higher in the tier.
Speed - Same as Batman, though swating bullets out of the air with Billy-the-club is waaay cooler than what Bats can do.
Speed (Flight) - Falls with more style than Bats and is braver in the air, blatantly evident by lack of cape.
Stamina - Same as the Batman.
Strength - Same as Silver Surfer but holds back *see Energy Projection.
Overall - Takes 6/10 from Bats

Booyahh!

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Using the power levels tier guide being used here in KMC (low-high street leveler, low-high meta, low-high herald, low-high trans, low-high skyfather, low-high abstract), rate your favorite character's abilities using this criteria:


Juggernaught
Agility: Mid Street Leveler
Durability: Mid Trans.....................................................
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: High Street Leveler
Intelligence: Low Street Leveler
Mental Power: N/A (High Herald resistance)
Reflexes: Mid Street Leveler
Speed: Mid Street Leveler
Speed: (Flight): N/A
Stamina: Low Trans........................................................
Strength: High Herald (Mid Trans forward momentum)
Overall: Mid Herald

FOO are you on Druggs?

TOAA


Agility - Infinite
Durability - Invincible
Energy Projection - Infinite
Fighting Ability - Infinite
Intelligence - Omniscient
Mental Power - Infinite
Reflexes - Infinite
Speed - Omnipresent
Speed (Flight) - Omnipresent
Stamina - Never tires
Strength - Infinite
Overall - Omnipotent

Originally posted by Juk3n
Daredevil;

Agility - 1 tier above Batman
Durability - 1 tier below Batman, because the Batsuit has more pockets.
Energy Projection - Mid-Herald, but holds back because he only works a small area and doesn't want to damage property.
Fighting Ability - Same tier as Batman, but ranks above him because of radar.(sans batgadgets obviously)
Intelligence - Tier below Batman.
Mental Power - Same as Batman.
Reflexes - Same Tier as the Bat, but ranks higher in the tier.
Speed - Same as Batman, though swating bullets out of the air with Billy-the-club is waaay cooler than what Bats can do.
Speed (Flight) - Falls with more style than Bats and is braver in the air, blatantly evident by lack of cape.
Stamina - Same as the Batman.
Strength - Same as Silver Surfer but holds back *see Energy Projection.
Overall - Takes 6/10 from Bats

Booyahh!

Batman's suit is bulletproof.

Are you sure that they're in the same tier in durability?

Originally posted by Juk3n

Durability - 1 tier below Batman,



Originally posted by Kris Blaze


Are you sure that they're in the same tier in durability?

Batman

Agility - Infinite
Durability - Invincible
Energy Projection - Infinite
Fighting Ability - Infinite
Intelligence - Omniscient
Mental Power - Infinite
Reflexes - He can simultaneously beat all the Flashes at a game of hot hands.
Speed - Flash looks like he's in slow motion to Bats
Speed (Flight) - He's everywhere at once.
Stamina - He could wear out She Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl...at the same time. naughty
Strength - Infinite
Overall - Omnipotent

biscuits

Originally posted by Badabing
Batman

Agility - Infinite
Durability - Invincible
Energy Projection - Infinite
Fighting Ability - Infinite
Intelligence - Omniscient
Mental Power - Infinite
Reflexes - He can simultaneously beat all the Flashes at a game of hot hands.
Speed - Flash looks like he's in slow motion to Bats
Speed (Flight) - He's everywhere at once.
Stamina - He could wear out She Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl...at the same time. naughty
Strength - Infinite
Overall - Omnipotent

biscuits

he's only got a 4 inch erection though

true story

Originally posted by Badabing
Batman

Agility - Infinite
Durability - Invincible
Energy Projection - Infinite
Fighting Ability - Infinite
Intelligence - Omniscient
Mental Power - Infinite
Reflexes - He can simultaneously beat all the Flashes at a game of hot hands.
Speed - Flash looks like he's in slow motion to Bats
Speed (Flight) - He's everywhere at once.
Stamina - He could wear out She Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl...at the same time. naughty
Strength - Infinite
Overall - Omnipotent

biscuits




Savage Hulk

Agility - Low Meta, ability to perform acrobatic stunts he's never done before without any prior practice
Durability - Variable Herald, vulnerable to the big two metals
Energy Projection - Zilcho
Fighting Ability - Exceptional Brawler
Intelligence - High Dennis The Menace
Mental Power - Variable Herald resistance to mental attack
Reflexes - Low Herald, can catch opponents while they are moving at variable mach speeds
Speed - Mid Meta, at least a hundred miles an hour
Speed (Flight) - Mach speed leaping
Stamina - Virtually inexhaustible while enraged
Strength - Variable Herald, Low to High+, and continues to increase without limit the longer the Hulk is enraged
Overall - Variable Herald, Low- to High+ depending on rage and amp time.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Superman
Agility: Low Herald
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: Mid Herald
Fighting Ability: High Meta
Intelligence: Low Meta
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: Mid Herald
Speed: (Flight): High Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald
Overall: High Herald



anyways...

Superman:

Agility: High Meta
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: High Herald
Fighting Ability: High Meta/Low Herald
Intelligence: High Herald
Mental Power: High Meta/Low Herald
Reflexes: High Herald
Speed: High Herald
Speed (Flight): High Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald++
Overall: High Herald

Cyclops:

Agility: High Street
Durability: High Street
Energy Projection: Low Herald
Fighting Ability: High Meta
Intelligence: High Meta/Low Herald (if we're including tactical ability)
Mental Power: High Street
Reflexes: Mid Street
Speed: Low Street
Speed (Flight): N/A
Stamina: High Street
Strength: Low Street
Overall: High Meta

Rulk: (With Loeb force)


Agility - Infinite
Durability - Invincible
Energy Projection - Infinite
Fighting Ability - Infinite
Intelligence - Omniscient
Mental Power - Infinite
Reflexes - Infinite
Speed - Omnipresent
Speed (Flight) - Omnipresent
Stamina - Never tires
Strength - Infinite
Overall - Omnipotent

Originally posted by nicamarvin
FOO are you on Druggs?

Based it on the theory that he draws on Cyttorak for his Durability/Stamina.

Originally posted by dmills
Rulk: (With Loeb force)


Agility - Infinite
Durability - Invincible
Energy Projection - Infinite
Fighting Ability - Infinite
Intelligence - Omniscient
Mental Power - Infinite
Reflexes - Infinite
Speed - Omnipresent
Speed (Flight) - Omnipresent
Stamina - Never tires
Strength - Infinite
Overall - Omnipotent

copycat

Goku :

Agility: High Meta
Durability: Low Meta
Energy Projection: High Herald++
Fighting Ability: High Meta++
Intelligence: Low street --
Mental Power: N/A
Reflexes: High Herald
Speed: High Meta
Speed (Flight): Low Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Meta
Overall: Dunno

Starfire

Agility: High metahuman.
Durability: High meta to low herald.
Energy Projection: Mid herald.
Fighting Ability: Variable. Off panel training leads me to believe low to mid herald.
Intelligence: Low Herald.
Mental Power: Street Leveler.
Reflexes: high meta
Speed: high meta
Speed (Flight): mid herald
Stamina: high meta
Strength: low herald
Overall: low herald

Zatanna

Agility: low street leveler
Durability: low street leveler
Energy Projection: high herald
Fighting Ability: mid street leveler
Intelligence: high meta
Mental Power: mid-high herald
Reflexes: high metahuman
Speed: mid street leveler
Speed (Flight): mid herald
Stamina: high street leveler
Strength: low street leveler
Overall: Mid Herald

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Based it on the theory that he draws on Cyttorak for his Durability/Stamina. Dude the guy has skyfather level durability........just PIS Hurts him

Originally posted by D_Dude1210

Juggernaught
Stamina: Low Trans
Overall: Mid Herald have you ever seen him tired?....

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Using the power levels tier guide being used here in KMC (low-high street leveler, low-high meta, low-high herald, low-high trans, low-high skyfather, low-high abstract), rate your favorite character's abilities using this criteria:

Agility
Durability
Energy Projection
Fighting Ability
Intelligence
Mental Power
Reflexes
Speed
Speed (Flight)
Stamina
Strength
Overall

I'll start:

Silver Surfer
Agility: High Meta
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: High Herald
Fighting Ability: Low Meta
Intelligence: High Meta
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: High Street Level
Speed: (Flight): Low Trans
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: Mid Herald
Overall: High Herald

Superman
Agility: Low Herald
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: Mid Herald
Fighting Ability: High Meta
Intelligence: Low Meta
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: Mid Herald
Speed: (Flight): High Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald
Overall: High Herald

WWH
Agility: Low Meta
Durability: High Herald (HF)
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: Low Meta
Intelligence: High Street Leveler
Mental Power: N/A
Reflexes: Mid Meta
Speed: High Meta
Speed: (Flight): N/A
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald-Low Trans (at full anger)
Overall: Mid Herald

Juggernaught
Agility: Mid Street Leveler
Durability: Mid Trans
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: High Street Leveler
Intelligence: Low Street Leveler
Mental Power: N/A (High Herald resistance)
Reflexes: Mid Street Leveler
Speed: Mid Street Leveler
Speed: (Flight): N/A
Stamina: Low Trans
Strength: High Herald (Mid Trans forward momentum)
Overall: Mid Herald

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That's crazy.

Hell, I'll do it drunk sometime during the weekend...

Originally posted by nicamarvin
Dude the guy has skyfather level durability........just PIS Hurts him

Oh, thought you meant that I rated him too high. Well, if you don't agree with the rating, you can always put ur own.

Originally posted by Juk3n
he's only got a 4 inch erection though

true story

You --> g-asskick <-- Me

uhuh

Ha

Originally posted by Badabing
Batman --> g-asskick <-- Steve or Daredevil, Elektra, Black Panther, Wolverine...

So Superman's energy projection = Silver Surfer's?

Squirrel Girl
Agility - High Street
Durability - Mid Street
Energy Projection - Mid Street
Fighting Ability - Mid Street
Intelligence - Mid Street
Mental Power - Mid Street
Reflexes - Mid Street
Speed - Mid Street
Speed (Flight) - Mid Street
Stamina - Mid Street
Strength - Mid Street
Overall - Abstract Level

Originally posted by Mshinu
Squirrel Girl
Agility - High Street
Durability - Mid Street
Energy Projection - Mid Street
Fighting Ability - Mid Street
Intelligence - Mid Street
Mental Power - Mid Street
Reflexes - Mid Street
Speed - Mid Street
Speed (Flight) - Mid Street
Stamina - Mid Street
Strength - Mid Street
Overall - Abstract Level

I like this idea, so I'm going to bump it and do Empowered

Empowered
Agility - High Street
Durability - Low Meta (mid meta + powerloss factor)
Energy Projection - Low meta
Fighting Ability - Mid Street
Intelligence - mid meta
Mental Power - Mid street (suit has some but she doesn't actually know about it)
Reflexes - Mid Street
Speed - High Street
Speed (Jumping) - Low meta
Stamina - Low meta
Strength - Low meta
Overall - Low Meta

Captain Marvel

Agility: Mid Herald
Durability: High Herald-Low Trans at times
Energy Projection: High Meta-Low Herald
Fighting Ability: Mid Herald
Intelligence: Low Herald
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid to High Herald
Speed: Mid Herald
Speed: (Flight): High Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald
Overall: High Herald

Originally posted by Warlord
So Superman's energy projection = Silver Surfer's?


versatility =/= power.

Thor

Agility: Low Herald
Durability: Mid Herald - High Herald
Energy Projection: Low Trans - Mid Trans
Fighting Ability: Low Herald (no Mjolnir) Mid Herald (with Mjolnir)
Intelligence: High Meta
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid to High Herald
Speed: Low Herald
Speed: (Flight): Mid-High Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald
Overall: High Herald

Wonder Woman

Agility: High Herald
Durability: High Herald (Mid/high herald body, speedy healing + trans bracers)
Energy Projection: High herald*
Fighting Ability: High Herald
Intelligence: Mid Meta**
Mental Power: Mid/High Herald (lasso)
Reflexes: High Herald to low trans at times
Speed: Mid Herald
Speed: (Flight): Mid Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald
Overall: High Herald


*While it's not technically 'energy,' I'm including her other ranged attacks in here aside from the lighting bracers. It might make sense to change this to 'ranged offense'.

**It strikes me that IQ doesn't really go street/meta/herald/trans in the same way the other stats do in general.

Lobo

Agility: Mid-Herald-High Herald
Durability: Low Trans-Mid Trans (High Herald durability + insane HF)
Energy Projection: High herald*
Fighting Ability: High Herald
Intelligence: High Herald-Low Trans
Mental Power: Low Trans-Mid Trans
Reflexes: High Herald
Speed: Mid Herald
Speed: (Flight): N/A or High Herald with space chopper
Stamina: Low Trans-Mid Trans
Strength: High Herald-Low Trans
Overall: Low Trans

*With his various equipment, or more importantly a Red Ring of power.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Using the power levels tier guide being used here in KMC (low-high street leveler, low-high meta, low-high herald, low-high trans, low-high skyfather, low-high abstract), rate your favorite character's abilities using this criteria:

Agility
Durability
Energy Projection
Fighting Ability
Intelligence
Mental Power
Reflexes
Speed
Speed (Flight)
Stamina
Strength
Overall

I'll start:

Silver Surfer
Agility: High Meta
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: High Herald
Fighting Ability: Low Meta
Intelligence: High Meta
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: High Street Level
Speed: (Flight): Low Trans
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: Mid Herald
Overall: High Herald

Superman
Agility: Low Herald
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: Mid Herald
Fighting Ability: High Meta
Intelligence: Low Meta
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: Mid Herald
Speed: (Flight): High Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald
Overall: High Herald

WWH
Agility: Low Meta
Durability: High Herald (HF)
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: Low Meta
Intelligence: High Street Leveler
Mental Power: N/A
Reflexes: Mid Meta
Speed: High Meta
Speed: (Flight): N/A
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: High Herald-Low Trans (at full anger)
Overall: Mid Herald

Juggernaught
Agility: Mid Street Leveler
Durability: Mid Trans
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: High Street Leveler
Intelligence: Low Street Leveler
Mental Power: N/A (High Herald resistance)
Reflexes: Mid Street Leveler
Speed: Mid Street Leveler
Speed: (Flight): N/A
Stamina: Low Trans
Strength: High Herald (Mid Trans forward momentum)
Overall: Mid Herald

Cassandra Cain:

Agility: Low Meta
Durability: High Street
Energy Projection: Nil
Fighting Ability: Mid Meta
Intelligence: Low Street (Sorry Cass...)
Mental Power: High Street
Reflexes: Mid Meta
Speed: Low Meta
Speed (Flight): N/A
Stamina: High Street
Strength: High Street
Overall: Low Meta

Originally posted by BattleMage


Everything here is opinion. If you disagree, throw in YOUR take on it and get the discussion going.

Updating my Surfer ratings.

Silver Surfer
Agility: Low Herald
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: High Herald
Fighting Ability: Low Meta
Intelligence: High Meta
Mental Power: Mid Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: High Street Level
Speed: (Flight): Low Trans
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: Mid Herald
Overall: High Herald

Spider Man
Agility: High Meta
Durability: Low Meta
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: Low Meta
Intelligence: Mid Meta
Mental Powers: High Street Level
Reflexes: High Meta
Speed: High Street Level
Speed (Flight): N/A
Stamina: Mid Meta
Strength: Mid Meta
Overall: Mid Meta

Rhino
Agility: Low Street
Durability: High Meta
Energy Projection: N/A
Fighting Ability: Low Street Level
Intelligence: Low Street Level
Mental Powers: Low Street Level
Reflexes: Low Street Level
Speed: Low Meta
Speed (Flight): N/A
Stamina: Mid Meta
Strength: Low Herald
Overall: Mid Meta

Nova Prime

Agility: Mid Herald
Durability: Mid - High Herald
Energy Projection: High herald
Fighting Ability: Low - Mid Herald (Aided by Worldmind)
Intelligence: Low Meta - ??? (Aided by Worldmind)
Mental Power: Mid Herald (Strong Defense)
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: High Herald
Speed: (Flight) High Herald
Stamina: Mid Herald
Strength: Mid - High Herald
Overall: Mid - High Herald

I think I almost hit this one right on the nose... =P

I think Nova Prime (current before "death" is about:

Agility: Low Herald
Durability: Low Herald
Energy Projection: Mid herald
Fighting Ability: Low Herald (IF Aided by Worldmind)
Intelligence: Mid Herald (IF Aided by Worldmind)
Mental Power: Mid Herald (Strong Defense)
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: Low Herald
Speed: (Flight) High Herald
Stamina: Mid Herald
Strength: Mid Herald
Overall: Mid Herald

I like Celeyhga's ratings better here.

For Flight speed I'd actually put Nova at Low Trans. And his reflexes are High Herald, going by how he clowned Drax.

Originally posted by -Pr-
versatility =/= power.

Regardless of versatility or power supermans energy projection is not equal to that of silver surfer......

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I like Celeyhga's ratings better here.

For Flight speed I'd actually put Nova at Low Trans. And his reflexes are High Herald, going by how he clowned Drax.

High Herald reflexes would be Flash-level. Or at least Supes level.

I think Nova Prime would be lower than that.

My favorite character, Wolverine:



Agility: Low Meta.

Durability: Overall, high meta. Body: High street, Skeleton: probably trans. (being serious).

Energy Projection: N/A.

Fighting Ability: Low Herald. I consider Gamora to be High Herald; fighting ability is trickier because it's more of a level of mastery than anything.

Intelligence: Intelligence is broad. If you mean the stereotypical Reed Richards intelligence (engineering, math, science, etc.) I'd say Mid street. Tactics: High meta.

Mental Power: N/A though he has psionic resistance, but no offensive power.

Reflexes: somewhere between high street and low meta, more low meta.

Speed: somewhere between high street and low meta, more low meta.

Speed (Flight): N/A.

Stamina: As in regen? High meta on average. Fatigue resistance? Low herald I suppose.

Strength: Low Meta.

Overall: Low Meta.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Regardless of versatility or power supermans energy projection is not equal to that of silver surfer......

I'll have to agree.

One of Superman's best energy projection feat (that ppl hear like to point out, I meant) is HEATING a planet with his HV.

Sufer blowing up a planet isn't even his highest energy projection feat.

At best, I'd say Supes is like Mid Herald Energy Projection.

That's IMO, tho.

Let's throw in some heavy hitters here:

Mangog (NOT SA Mangog)
Agility: High Meta
Durability: Mid Trans
Energy Projection: High Herald
Fighting Ability: Low Herald
Intelligence: High Street Leveler
Mental Power: Low Herald
Reflexes: Mid Herald
Speed: High Meta
Speed: (Flight): N/A (never really saw Mangog fly)
Stamina: Mid Trans
Strength: Mid Trans
Overall: Low Trans

The Flash:

Agility: High herald-trans
Durability: It seems he would be meta but has taken some crazy impacts so I'll put him at herald, maybe low-mid.
Energy projection: Well he can create things out of mid air Low herald
Fighting ability: Mid street
Intelligence: He's very intelligent, maybe Mid Meta
Mental Power: High meta (in terms of resistance)
Reflexes: High herald-trans
Speed: High herald-trans
Speed (flight): He supposedly can fly, I'll leave this one open.
Stamina: Herald-trans
Strength: lifting strength mid street, striking power trans at best.
Overal: High herald (cis off) he can go into low, low trans on KMC at least.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Using the power levels tier guide being used here in KMC (low-high street leveler, low-high meta, low-high herald, low-high trans, low-high skyfather, low-high abstract), rate your favorite character's abilities using this criteria:

Agility
Durability
Energy Projection
Fighting Ability
Intelligence
Mental Power
Reflexes
Speed
Speed (Flight)
Stamina
Strength
Overall

My person

Super Saiyan 1 Goku

Agility: Low trans
Durability: Low trans
Energy Projection: Mid trans
Fighting ability: learned every style in his universe... trans
Intelligence: below normal but when it comes to fighting low herald
Mental Powers: high meta to low herald
Reflexes: skyfather
Speed: trans
Flight: high meta/low herald
Stamina: high herald/trans
Strength: black hair goku has high herald level punching power, super saiyan, trans... created nuke like explosions during their punches and punched a blast that was the size of a mountain out of orbit.

Overall... trans

You rate SSJ1 at trans? What is SS3 then?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The Flash:

Agility: High herald-trans
Durability: It seems he would be meta but has taken some crazy impacts so I'll put him at herald, maybe low-mid.
Energy projection: Well he can create things out of mid air Low herald
Fighting ability: Mid street
Intelligence: He's very intelligent, maybe Mid Meta
Mental Power: High meta (in terms of resistance)
Reflexes: High herald-trans
Speed: High herald-trans
Speed (flight): He supposedly can fly, I'll leave this one open.
Stamina: Herald-trans
Strength: lifting strength mid street, striking power trans at best.
Overal: High herald (cis off) he can go into low, low trans on KMC at least.

I agree with everything you said but I would put his speed and reflexes much higher and flash has shown the ability to run on air so I would consider that flying... wouldn't you?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You rate SSJ1 at trans? What is SS3 then?

Trans... they don't have the versatility t go beyond this.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
My favorite character, Wolverine:




lies.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with everything you said but I would put his speed and reflexes much higher and flash has shown the ability to run on air so I would consider that flying... wouldn't you? Maybe.

Higher than trans? Abstract?
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
lies. You just didn't know it, I hid it from you by arguing with you.

Why do you think I post in the threads with you? Nothing but love after all of these years.

Thanos

Agility: Low Herald
Durability: High Trans-Low Skyfather
Energy projection: Mid Trans
Fighting ability: Mid Trans
Intelligence: High Skyfather
Mental Power: High Trans
Reflexes: Mid Herald-High Herald
Speed: Low Herald
Speed (flight): idk...never seen thanos fly, although he should be able.
Stamina: High Trans-Low Skyfather
Strength: High Trans-Low Skyfather
Overall: Low Street http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/biscuits.gif

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Maybe.

Higher than trans? Abstract?
You just didn't know it, I hid it from you by arguing with you.

Why do you think I post in the threads with you? Nothing but love after all of these years.

I would rank flash speed in the skyfather level or above. It can't get any faster than the flash.

Superman:

Agility - Mid Meta
Durability - High Herald
Energy Projection - High Herald
Fighting Ability - Mid Meta
Intelligence - High Herald
Mental Power - If you're talking about Willpower, then High Herald at the very least.
Reflexes - High Herald
Speed - Mid Herald
Speed (Flight) - High Herald
Stamina - High Herald
Strength - Whatever's above High Herald
Overall - High Herald

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman:

Agility - Mid Meta
Durability - High Herald
Energy Projection - High Herald
Fighting Ability - Mid Meta
Intelligence - High Herald
Mental Power - If you're talking about Willpower, then High Herald at the very least.
Reflexes - High Herald
Speed - Mid Herald
Speed (Flight) - High Herald
Stamina - High Herald
Strength - Whatever's above High Herald
Overall - High Herald speed - midherald?!

Originally posted by Starscream M
speed - midherald?!

running.

Originally posted by -Pr-
running. You use High Herald as the highest tier right?

oh

Originally posted by Parmaniac
You use High Herald as the highest tier right?

i think high herald is pretty high, so yeah.

well, the threadmaker included trans as a category

Originally posted by CosmicComet


http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3596/darkseidowndjr0.jpg

that's darkseid

It'S awesome that his hat still has the price sign.

Originally posted by Starscream M
well, the threadmaker included trans as a category

then i included it already.

Originally posted by carver9
I would rank flash speed in the skyfather level or above. It can't get any faster than the flash. Runner? But either way abstracts tend to be able to warp time and other space.

Nova Prime

Agility: High Meta?
Durability: High Herald
Energy Projection: High Herald
Fighting Ability: Highly skilled in combatives and tactics
Intelligence: Above average/WM: nigh omniscient?
Mental Power: Too vague.
Reflexes: High Herald
Speed: high Herald
Speed (Flight): High Herald
Stamina: High Herald
Strength: varies Mid-High Herald depending on Nova Force usage
Overall: High herald


Iron Fist

Agility: high meta
Durability: Low meta
Energy Projection: Mid meta
Fighting Ability: top of the food chain martial artist
Intelligence; High street level
Mental Power: Too vague
Reflexes: High meta
Speed: low meta?
Speed: can't fly
Stamina: High meta
Strength:?
Overall: mid meta?


High Evolutionary

Agility: LOL
Durability: Trans
Energy Projection: tricky
Fighting Ability: LOL
Intelligence: Trans-cosmic
Mental Power: Trans-cosmic
Reflexes: LOL
Speed: Teleportation
Speed (Flight) Teleportation
Stamina: trans
Strength: Trans
Overall: Trans-cosmic, depending on his mood I guess

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I like Celeyhga's ratings better here.

For Flight speed I'd actually put Nova at Low Trans. And his reflexes are High Herald, going by how he clowned Drax.


Buahaha....

Originally posted by dmills


Iron Fist

Agility: high meta
Durability: Low meta
Energy Projection: Mid meta
Fighting Ability: top of the food chain martial artist
Intelligence; High street level
Mental Power: Too vague
Reflexes: High meta
Speed: low meta?
Speed: can't fly
Stamina: High meta
Strength:?
Overall: mid meta?


I think you might be off a few. I mean if you have people placing wolverine at high street to low meta in speed reflexes and agility, there no way IF is high meta. Even if you believe he better in each of those area (which I don't personally) there no way he better by that large of a margin.

Though I will admitt the more I look at the thread starters placements I starting to think Wolverine and IF stat's in those area need to be put much higher when you have him giving Hulk low meta agility and giving Hulk high meta reflexes.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Though I will admitt the more I look at the thread starters placements I starting to think Wolverine and IF stat's in those area need to be put much higher when you have him giving Hulk low meta agility and giving Hulk high meta reflexes.

Hehe. Based those reflexes on his ability to tag speedsteers on many occasions. Feel free to correct my ratings, tho.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I think you might be off a few. I mean if you have people placing wolverine at high street to low meta in speed reflexes and agility, there no way IF is high meta. Even if you believe he better in each of those area (which I don't personally) there no way he better by that large of a margin. I haven't even taken a look at Logans ratings. I was only basing my IF ratings on what I've seen over the years. But then again I'm not THAT familiar with the tier rankings either, so I guess I could be rating him too high on some things lol.

Originally posted by dmills
I haven't even taken a look at Logans ratings. I was only basing my IF ratings on what I've seen over the years. But then again I'm not THAT familiar with the tier rankings either, so I guess I could be rating him too high on some things lol.
honestly if I dident know how the tier system worked I rank him the same thing, as would I spiderman and wolverine.

also I say Iron Fist would frank pretty high on the ranks at least high meta at times.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Thanos

Agility: Low Herald
Durability: High Trans-Low Skyfather
Energy projection: Mid Trans
Fighting ability: Mid Trans
Intelligence: High Skyfather
Mental Power: High Trans
Reflexes: Mid Herald-High Herald
Speed: Low Herald
Speed (flight): idk...never seen thanos fly, although he should be able.
Stamina: High Trans-Low Skyfather
Strength: High Trans-Low Skyfather
Overall: Low Street http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/biscuits.gif

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3596/darkseidowndjr0.jpg

http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/biscuits.gif

He got knocked the FCK out!

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's darkseid

I know, I just find that image to be funnier over Thanos being handcuffed and led into a squad car.

Someone really needs to explain how you can have Low Herald agility. Seriously guys, my agility is city-busting. Trying to form a consensus is worthless too, as there's absolute sloths and Flash-level speed/agility in the tier.

That same logic could be applied to every category.

The tiers are only useful as overall general indicators of power...that's all they were ever created for, and there are no distinctions for, say, what speed is a prerequisite for a specific tier. There's no such thing as Low Meta strength or High herald strength, or {any tier} {any power}. It's all context. As such, this thread seems like a valid concept, but is entirely arbitrary when put into practice.

So, for example, Thanos at Trans. strength was something someone listed earlier. Fair enough. But his strength is Trans because Thanos himself is Trans. The strength alone is just a bland power with nothing to accompany it, maybe capable of high meta. It's only Trans because he has the durability, intelligence, skill, absorption, etc. to go along with it. But is the strength, just strength, Trans? Not even close. Because is Trans. a strength level? No, it's a power level, one that strength alone would never approach in any amount. So we either top out at around high meta for any individual power, or we admit that we're just going to have to estimate powers with no relative basis for accurate comparison.

Spider-Man
Agility: Skyfather

fdog

Everything's relative in the end.

I think certain characters are benchmarks for the levels. For instance Supes is HH for strength.

Mr. Majestic

Agility: Nano-Second.
Durability: Class 100 (sustained a planet wrecker)
Energy projection: Top Tier (Sun Creating feat)
Fighting ability: Highest Order, he is after all a War Lord.
Intelligence: Genius Level.
Mental Power: Mild Level of Psi.
Reflexes: Nano-Second.
Speed: Faster Than Light.
Speed (flight): Faster Than Light.
Stamina: ???
Strength: Class 100 (Planet Moving).

^Class 100 stamina?

What else would you call it really, other than relating it to other characters or even pantheons (Olympian level stamina etc)