Krillin's destructo disk vs SSJ4 Gogeta

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Hewhoknowsall
What if Krillin ala Cell Saga threw his destructo disk at SSJ4 Gogeta, and it hit him straight through the waist?

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KingD19
The Destructo Disk is stated as being able to cut anything, and it's not hyperbole, since everyone goes out of their way to dodge the damn thing. It's just one of the slowest attacks in the whole series. So yeah, it would cut SSJ4 Gogeta, probably in half, if not that, it would at least leave him wishing he didn't get hit with it.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
What if Krillin ala Cell Saga threw his destructo disk at SSJ4 Gogeta, and it hit him straight through the waist?

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Well if it went through his waist then he'd be dead.

It won't go through though if he he actually did hit him.

Originally posted by KingD19
The Destructo Disk is stated as being able to cut anything, and it's not hyperbole, since everyone goes out of their way to dodge the damn thing. It's just one of the slowest attacks in the whole series. So yeah, it would cut SSJ4 Gogeta, probably in half, if not that, it would at least leave him wishing he didn't get hit with it.

Didn't it hit the back of Cell's neck or something?

Hewhoknowsall
Originally posted by KingD19
The Destructo Disk is stated as being able to cut anything, and it's not hyperbole, since everyone goes out of their way to dodge the damn thing. It's just one of the slowest attacks in the whole series. So yeah, it would cut SSJ4 Gogeta, probably in half, if not that, it would at least leave him wishing he didn't get hit with it.

Strange...how is the disk capable of cutting anything? How is it so powerful?

KingD19
Actually, I just read up on it. It did hit Cell's neck, but it broke because Cell was too tough or something. However, Krillin went on to cut Kid Buu in half with it.

So Krillin's Destructo Disk won't do anything, but if someone more powerful threw one, it could, since when Cell threw a D-Disk at Gohan, and Gohan threw them back, Cell dodged, meaning he knew his Destructo Disk could cut him(The purple one Frieza used)

In the mange though, the D-Disk does cut through anything, and you can't block it, you can only dodge.

And the reason it cuts is because the user shapes their ki into a disk, then sharpens the edges.

Hewhoknowsall
Originally posted by KingD19

And the reason it cuts is because the user shapes their ki into a disk, then sharpens the edges.

So it being sharp somehow allows it to cut through anything??? Swords can't cut through plate mail simply because they are sharp.

Oh, and why doesn't Krillin just sneak up on Cell when he's asleep (does he sleep?) and use it on him?

KingD19
Well considering you're making the most potent source of energy in the whole universe into a blade as thin as you can, I'm pretty sure it increases it's cutting power.

And don't ask me, Toriyama came up with this stuff, not me.

Cell doesn't sleep, when he challenged the Z-Fighters, he sat there for 3 days, people thought he was asleep, but he was just waiting. Besides, Krillin's version doesn't work on Cell, either someone more powerful needs to do it, or he needs to get a boost in power, then use Freiza's version.

Hewhoknowsall
Originally posted by KingD19


Cell doesn't sleep, when he challenged the Z-Fighters, he sat there for 3 days, people thought he was asleep, but he was just waiting. Besides, Krillin's version doesn't work on Cell, either someone more powerful needs to do it, or he needs to get a boost in power, then use Freiza's version.

So Krillin can NOT hurt Gogeta with it.

KingD19
Yeah, I already said that in my 2nd post.

I also said that someone with a high enough power level using either Krillin's D-Disk, or the version that Frieza/Cell used would be enough to injure, or cleave him in half though.

Kirikaze Fuuma
Gogeta won't just stand and let destructo disc hit him. He'll probably smack it away or destroyed it with a ki blast

KingD19
That's the stipulation of the thread, he has to let it hit him, if it bounces off or cuts him is the debate topic.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by KingD19
The Destructo Disk is stated as being able to cut anything, and it's not hyperbole, since everyone goes out of their way to dodge the damn thing. It's just one of the slowest attacks in the whole series. So yeah, it would cut SSJ4 Gogeta, probably in half, if not that, it would at least leave him wishing he didn't get hit with it.

Except Krillin hit Cell in the back of the neck with one, and it splashed over him without even slightly cutting or stunning him. Gogeta would eat a thousand Destructo disks for breakfast.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by KingD19
Actually, I just read up on it. It did hit Cell's neck, but it broke because Cell was too tough or something. However, Krillin went on to cut Kid Buu in half with it.

So Krillin's Destructo Disk won't do anything, but if someone more powerful threw one, it could, since when Cell threw a D-Disk at Gohan, and Gohan threw them back, Cell dodged, meaning he knew his Destructo Disk could cut him(The purple one Frieza used)

In the mange though, the D-Disk does cut through anything, and you can't block it, you can only dodge.

And the reason it cuts is because the user shapes their ki into a disk, then sharpens the edges.

Yeah, if it's made by someone stronger it can cut more, but it's not hard to cut or maim Buu. He got holes blown through him by bullets. That's the greatness in his design, he can regenerate almost anything even if it vaporizes him.

Cell was harder, like the z-fighters. If Krillin shot one at SSJ Goku, it would bounce off of him. Gogeta would do the same with one from Cell, lol.

Supra
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
What if Krillin ala Cell Saga threw his destructo disk at SSJ4 Gogeta, and it hit him straight through the waist?

MODS: If this is in the wrong part of the forum (not sure if this is a "vs" thread) could you please move it instead of closing it?

I pity you for making such a stupid thread..

edit: your banned..my bad.

NemeBro
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Except Krillin hit Cell in the back of the neck with one, and it splashed over him without even slightly cutting or stunning him. Gogeta would eat a thousand Destructo disks for breakfast. That was filler.

In the manga, IIRC no one has tanked the Destructo Disk.

Supra
Originally posted by NemeBro
That was filler.

In the manga, IIRC no one has tanked the Destructo Disk.

Your gonna say SS4 Gogeta can't tank a krillen disk... laughing

BloodRain
True, no one has been able to stop the Disk in the manga.

The anime makes another inconsistency by having it shatter on Cell but slice through Buu, where the villains have a great gap between them but Krillen's strength is near enough the same.

Galan007
Yeah, even the part of the anime where SSJ2 Gohan 'catches' twin Destructo Disks launched by Cell is non-canon filler.

As for this thread, I wouldn't be surprised if the Disk shattered on impact. GT was pretty much the exception to ALL the rules. /shrug

Supra
SS4 Gogeta laughs and says thank's for the massage.

Arsenal
Manga - Cuts through him.
Anime - Disintegrates.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
That was filler.

In the manga, IIRC no one has tanked the Destructo Disk.

Well, GT wasn't a manga, only an anime(and not cannon), so... Yeah.

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Inedian
As I remember, Krillin destructo disc was absolutely innefficient against Cell.

It bounces off him.

SSJGGogeta
If we're going strictly with GT logic, then the disk wouldn't even register on Gogeta's radar, and would splash at his waist upon contact. GT isn't canon though, and I'm pretty confident that's not the purpose of this thread.

In regards to the disk being used in the canon series, it has NEVER failed to cut something. Going by logic, it should even be able to sever the likes of even Beerus or someone above him. The only reason it has never been effective on a villain before is because almost all of the main villains in DBZ have had regeneration or something akin to that.

However, it could be reasoned that it simply bypasses all durability and can cut through anything no matter what.

This could potentially make someone like Krillin able to effectively kill someone like Jiren if it were plausible for him to actually land the move.

However, a similar attack, the Makkankosappo, was recently shown in DBS to not have INFINITE piercing capacity, meaning the same could potentially be observed in the destructo disk at some point down the line. Piccolo wasn't able to pierce one of the other Namekians with his Makkankosappo until he charged it fully, meaning it has finite piercing ability. The same could be true for the Kienzan, but as for now we just can't know for sure. Hopefully Super retcons and explains it at some point. I just couldn't imagine Krillin being able to kill someone like Zeno or Whiss simply by catching them off-guard.

Nevan
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
In regards to the disk being used in the canon series, it has NEVER failed to cut something. Going by logic, it should even be able to sever the likes of even Beerus or someone above him. The only reason it has never been effective on a villain before is because almost all of the main villains in DBZ have had regeneration or something akin to that. We literally saw the disk being completely ineffective against Jiren on 123.

cdtm
With a UI attack.

Just wait, the red glow will be revealed as UI offensive varient. Gray a perfect defense, red a perfect offense.

And probably another color for a less effective but good enough to beat anyone blend.

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