best scientific feat

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rotiart
Outside of a self amp... Ie a feat that involves making you more godlike... Like doom stealing surfer powers.

what is the single best feat of scientific knowhow in your opinions

I like the one where reed terraforms planets for food...

Let's call it marvel vs dc vs all others. Which comic has the best feats of intentional intelligence

Parmaniac
Does the miracle machine counts as science?

iceman24567
Yes because it is science....

rotiart
Oh. Good point.... Let's limit the tech to no races where the entire race is superman level or higher

KingD19
Making a watch that can transform you into an almost infinite number of different creatures, with different and powerful abilities(Ben 10-Omnitrix) ^_^

illadelph12
Lex Luthor wins.

Tin Can + Oranges + Spring = Temporal Coil (or some other ridiculous thing) to entrap PC Supes.

Done while in a jail cell at that.

iceman24567
I still don't get where he got the temporal coil from no expression

Battlehammer
Mr. Fantastic developed a machine capable of taking galactices on.

tkitna
Doom's Time Machine

Parmaniac
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes because it is science....

a "miracle" http://www.myxss.com/forums/images/smilies/pleasantry.gif is not science IDK if it was ever explained in the comic how it works that's why I asked...

iceman24567
Originally posted by Parmaniac
a "miracle" http://www.myxss.com/forums/images/smilies/pleasantry.gif is not science IDK if it was ever explained in the comic how it works that's why I asked... If my scanner were working i could show you it's a "machine" first built by the Controllers then Superman memorized every inch of it then he helped rebuild in in Final Crisis. It's tech.

rotiart
Well controllers are above superman level so it don't count

iceman24567
Never said it did i was just explaining something to Parmaniac

rotiart
Oh okay. :-)

nicamarvin
profesor X while fighting the fantastic4 built a Depowering device....Stone cutter was cool too....

iceman24567
Originally posted by KingD19
Making a watch that can transform you into an almost infinite number of different creatures, with different and powerful abilities(Ben 10-Omnitrix) ^_^ Yeah the Omnitrix is pretty awesome

rotiart
Is that ben 10 the cartoon? I didn't know he had a regular comic book.
To be fair that watch omg Rox

Hewhoknowsall
Reed creating a gun that outblasted and KO'd the combined power of the Living Tribunal, Lord Chaos and a bunch of other cosmic beings.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Reed creating a gun that outblasted and KO'd the combined power of the Living Tribunal, Lord Chaos and a bunch of other cosmic beings.

wow for real ? WTF was powering that gun?

Anyway I think Thanos made liek a artificial infinity gem that worked just the same...or something like that embarrasment

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Reed creating a gun that outblasted and KO'd the combined power of the Living Tribunal, Lord Chaos and a bunch of other cosmic beings. canon? huh

SoulDevourer
anyway MJJ building the Fury, dat gotta one o the most advanced machines ever

iceman24567
MJJ is way above Superman level try again

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by rotiart

Let's limit the tech to no races where the entire race is superman level or higher Originally posted by iceman24567

MJJ is way above Superman level try again whats MJJs race? no expression

Galan007
the galactus-buster armor reed built would certainly be up there.

there's also the instance where tony and doom were stranded together in the very distant past, and they were able to build a working time machine out of the parts in their respective armors, literally overnight.

illadelph12
Oranges.
Tin Can.
Spring.

Nothing tops that.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by illadelph12
Oranges.
Tin Can.
Spring.

Nothing tops that.

Lex Luthor's time machine? That was ridiculous.

Anyway, Brainiac understanding Miracle Machine.

The Atom's machine that was designed to pluck anyone from the time stream to defeat Superman. (Atlas)

Will Magnus's Metal Men

Ivo's Amazo

Reed's Galactus suit.

redhotrash
These Reed feats really make his "sentry simulation machine" stand out as one of the dumber points of a already obscenely dumb story arc..

rotiart
Was the fury a machine? I always thought mjj was a mutant with reality powers and created it with his powers..... If so it's not really a scientific feat...

Although he is human so that qualifies

iceman24567
Yeah i wouldn't say it's a scientific feat.

SoulDevourer
if mjj use his powers to make the fury then why make it at all? confused
he could of use his powers to kill all the heroes himself

-K-M-
The greatest creation of all...Puckbot. That is all

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Survivor19
Did it fare better against Galactus then any of IM's Hulkbuster suits against the Hulk?

K-Dog
Originally posted by illadelph12
Lex Luthor wins.

Tin Can + Oranges + Spring = Temporal Coil (or some other ridiculous thing) to entrap PC Supes.

Done while in a jail cell at that.

Lol, this is the one I was thinking. The key was the citric acid!

Galan007
In an effort to break out of prison, pre-crisis Lex creates a 'time ray' out of random materials in his jail cell. He then charges the device with sunlight reflected off a hand-held mirror, before finally summoning Hercules himself from the distant past by aiming his ray through a picture in a history book:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9610/lex1.th.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1336/lex2e.th.jpg

Pre-crisis inventions, ftw! none

psycho gundam
facepalm

how could a full grown man write that and the editor let it get through?

753
Originally posted by Galan007
In an effort to break out of prison, pre-crisis Lex creates a 'time ray' out of random materials in his jail cell. He then charges the device with sunlight reflected off a hand-held mirror, before finally summoning Hercules himself from the distant past by aiming his ray through a picture in a history book:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9610/lex1.th.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1336/lex2e.th.jpg

Pre-crisis inventions, ftw! none

I was gonna say something about HE making counter-earth, but now it would just look silly.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by psycho gundam
facepalm

how could a full grown man write that and the editor let it get through? It's long ago, now that editor makes movies under the name Uwe Boll

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Galan007
In an effort to break out of prison, pre-crisis Lex creates a 'time ray' out of random materials in his jail cell. He then charges the device with sunlight reflected off a hand-held mirror, before finally summoning Hercules himself from the distant past by aiming his ray through a picture in a history book:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9610/lex1.th.jpg http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1336/lex2e.th.jpg

Pre-crisis inventions, ftw! none
I believe PC Luthor was an autistic Savant reality warper if you catch my drift. laughing out loud

JakeTheBank
Holy shit was PC Luthor badass.

galactusischere
Meh, UN/MM/CA beat all.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by galactusischere
Meh, UN beats all.
PC Luthor could have made a UN of his own from the contents of a toilet case and a pair of triple-A batteries. erm

galactusischere
Originally posted by Omega Vision
PC Luthor could have made a UN of his own from the contents of a toilet case and a pair of triple-A batteries. erm

Unless you are joking/being sarcastic, then no


Galactus has immeasurable intellect, with PIS/CIS off.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by galactusischere
Meh, UN/MM/CA beat all. The toothpick try to ultimate nullify something tiny between your teeth.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by galactusischere
Unless you are joking/being sarcastic, then no


Galactus has immeasurable intellect, with PIS/CIS off.
PC Luthor had immeasurable intellect too. He could make unambiguously impossible inventions as seen above. Tony Stark can make a suit of armor in a cave with a box of scraps but PC Luthor can make a Time Ray with a clock and asparin tablets.

galactusischere
That's nothing really. Which super genious hasn't made super high tech things from random crap in comics?

and forget the MM/UN/CA, in MC2 Richards created a gun that brought down the all mighty LT.

Galan007
Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus has immeasurable intellect, with PIS/CIS off. Scans of Galactus making a time machine out of aspirin, sunlight, and a history book?

Cartesian Doubt
If by best, you mean absolutely retarded; Then watch the last ten mins of the majority of Doctor Who episodes.

The Aspirin thing u mentioned is nothing !!!!!!!

Trackz
Wakanda defeated the Skrulls was nice.

galactusischere
Originally posted by Galan007
Scans of Galactus making a time machine out of aspirin, sunlight, and a history book?

Galactus has enough power to create those things out of nothing, so he doesn't have a reason to do something like that.

Now scans of luthor creating a device capable of destroying the multi-verse in a blink(and still not it's full potential IMO)

Black bolt z
McGyver.He can make a bomb out of a bananna peel,some silly putty and a microwave. laughing

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Black bolt z
McGyver.He can make a bomb out of a bananna peel,some silly putty and a microwave. laughing
He's not a comic book character though.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's not a comic book character though.
Well then i'll go with galactus and his planet eating machine.

Enyalus
Best scientific feat from a Superman-level being or less is Alexander Luthor's recreation of the DC multiverse....

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Enyalus
Best scientific feat from a Superman-level being or less is Alexander Luthor's recreation of the DC multiverse....
Yeah that was pretty impressive.

753
What about Richards' UN recreation of a multiverse thing?

galactusischere
What about the Cosmic Armor Omega, was that tech as well?

Cartesian Doubt
Originally posted by Enyalus
Best scientific feat from a Superman-level being or less is Alexander Luthor's recreation of the DC multiverse....


Yeah that is pretty good in fact ... This wins !

A part from Reeds thing that used all those Omnipotent beings energies against them ... this is probably better !

Oh yeah ther was the New God Geneis box, that re made the universe.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah that was pretty impressive.
lol. Pretty impressive.

That's like saying Starfire is kinda pretty.

galactusischere
How is that the best? UN nullified AND recreated the multi-verse in a blink.

Cartesian Doubt
Originally posted by galactusischere
What about the Cosmic Armor Omega, was that tech as well?

No we perceive it as tech, its beyond our comprehension; Like a square triangle or an actual Infinity. Our brain uses our standard concepts to understand it.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Enyalus
lol. Pretty impressive.

That's like saying Starfire is kinda pretty.
Well that depends. Animated Starfire is Jailbait and not as hot as Raven anyway. Now comics Starfire.... embarrasment
Well this says it all:
http://maosblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/starfire.png

galactusischere
wow.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Now comics Starfire.... embarrasment
thumb up I know...I know.

-K-M-
Originally posted by -K-M-
The greatest creation of all...Puckbot. That is all

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/WeaponX11pg12.jpg

When you're right, you're right

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well that depends. Animated Starfire is Jailbait and not as hot as Raven anyway. Now comics Starfire.... embarrasment
Well this says it all:
What happend after that?

-K-M-
Originally posted by Parmaniac
What happend after that?

Orgy.

Black bolt z
Sweet

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Parmaniac
What happend after that?
Isn't it obvious? The kid got a new pair of underwear.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Isn't it obvious? The kid got a new pair of underwear.
lol big grin

Cartesian Doubt
Originally posted by Parmaniac
What happend after that?

OMG .... Please go and hire a prositute or something, before u give us all STI's. lol

Enyalus
Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
OMG .... Please go and hire a prositute or something, before u give us all STI's. lol
Non sequitur...?

How does hiring a prostitute prevent transmission of STIs?

Original Smurph
More concerning, why are we at risk if he doesn't hire a prostitute... ?

Desaad
Lots of good ones, but more impressive for Reed than the Galactus armor (which need all the electricity of Earth or whatever) would be the weapons he had laying around that were able to totally kill Celestials, or the multiple pocket universes he has created.

-K-M-
Originally posted by Enyalus
Non sequitur...?

How does hiring a prostitute prevent transmission of STIs?

Sssssh...I like his reasoning so I ordered 5.

Endless Mike
Reed recently built a machine that screwed up the multiverse

SamZED
Living in the same house with a hot alien chick who refuses to wear clothes. Sweet.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by -K-M-
Orgy. That wouldn't suprise me if it was Pre-Crisis.

Philosophía
Edit.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by SamZED
Living in the same house with a hot alien chick who refuses to wear clothes. Sweet.
Try frustrating. laughing out loud

Black bolt z
The high evolutionary has done some pretty amazing scientific feats.

Prep-Man
Prometheus's suit, which has weaknesses of ALL the heroes of DCU has to be up there.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Prometheus's suit, which has weaknesses of ALL the heroes of DCU has to be up there.
And apparently gives him like, microsecond reaction time.

Prep-Man
Too bad it's not Donna proof! laughing out loud

Enyalus
Yeah. Lame. In fact, Donna's lame herself. Maybe since Prometheus is so cool, he gets weaker around lame people. Like a kind of kryptonite. I hope Robinson kills her off in his JLA run or something. Whining b!tch.

Prep-Man
1st by Catwoman than by Donna. You'd think he'd have protection against that type of stuff. laughing out loud

Mr Master
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall

Reed creating a gun that KO'd the combined power of the Living Tribunal, Lord Chaos and a bunch of other cosmic beings.
Originally posted by galactusischere

and forget the MM/UN/CA,
in MC2 Richards created a gun that brought down the all mighty LT.
The LT, or even the Cosmics there were never taken down,
and were definitely not "k.o'd" friends.

They were blown into other Universes by their own power.

That's the same comic were the LT
had to combine his power with other Cosmics to take out an alternate Galactus. durlaugh

I've seen heroes turned into Zombies killing an alternate Galactus. no expression
And Abraxas alone took out a truck load of alternates as well.

What horse shit of a story in that MC2 book.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Mr Master
The LT, or even the Cosmics there were never taken down,
and were definitely not "k.o'd" friends.

They were blown into other Universes by their own power.

That's the same comic were the LT
had to combine his power with other Cosmics to take out an alternate Galactus. durlaugh

I've seen heroes turned into Zombies killing an alternate Galactus. no expression
And Abraxas alone took out a truck load of alternates as well.

What horse shit of a story in that MC2 book.

Do you think the tech Reed has that put down Celestials was impressive? I'm not that impressed, because they weren't the regular Celestials.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Mr Master
The LT, or even the Cosmics there were never taken down,
and were definitely not "k.o'd" friends.

They were blown into other Universes by their own power.

That's the same comic were the LT
had to combine his power with other Cosmics to take out an alternate Galactus. durlaugh

I've seen heroes turned into Zombies killing an alternate Galactus. no expression
And Abraxas alone took out a truck load of alternates as well.

What horse shit of a story in that MC2 book.
Aren't all stories with LT in them canon to the Living Tribunal?

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Aren't all stories with LT in them canon to the Living Tribunal? I don't think so, that would mean that the Marvel vs. DC popularity contest was canon

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I don't think so, that would mean that the Marvel vs. DC popularity contest was canon
It was a really bad drug trip for the LT. stick out tongue

Galan007
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2112/im1qa.th.jpg http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2396/im2pg.th.jpg http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/523/im3.th.jpg

In summary: Ultimate Iron Man stumbled upon the head of an alternate version of himself. The helmet on this alternate version had a self-defense mechanism that kills all machinery in it's vacinity (except Tony's, because he'd already studied it and found a way to shield his tech.)

Parmaniac
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/368/funbestdisplayofintelle.th.jpg

Not really science but the best display if intelligence I've ever seen.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well that depends. Animated Starfire is Jailbait and not as hot as Raven anyway. Now comics Starfire.... embarrasment
Well this says it all:
http://maosblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/starfire.png meh

Black bolt z
Thats an awesome scan.

Konton
Originally posted by Enyalus
thumb up I know...I know.

She's just... recharging her energy levels.
eek!

Enyalus
Originally posted by Konton
She's just... recharging her energy levels.
eek!
You don't have Benes-drawn Starfire in your sig. That's almost a cardinal sin.

Prep-Man
Starfire is thick. Me likey.

Omega Vision
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Starfire is thick. Me likey.
Hell yeah. Comics Starfire>>>>>Animated Starfire mostly because there's something to hold onto.

Galan007
Darkseid's Radion bullet, apparently:

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8366/darkybullet1.th.jpg http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9981/darkybullet2.th.jpg

Prep-Man
Originally posted by Galan007
Darkseid's Radion bullet, apparently:

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8366/darkybullet1.th.jpg http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9981/darkybullet2.th.jpg

Is that recently? New Gods have the BEST tech in comics. Seriously.

cdtm
Majestic rearranging our solar system to fool a cosmic monster, while also hiding the changes from Earths residents.

Galan007
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Is that recently? New Gods have the BEST tech in comics. Seriously. From Batman 702.

There's also the Ancestor Box:

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9297/darkybullet3.th.jpg

Prep-Man
Wow. Nice. Ancestor Box, FTW.

Prep-Man
Morrison comes up with some crazy tech. First it's the Genesis Box, Ancestor Box, Radion Bullet. etc...

Galan007
^ Plus he revamped the Worlogog into a true/confirmed universal+ power.

Prep-Man
Did he? What issue? DC One million?

Galan007
During the Rock of Ages storyline.

Desaad
Originally posted by Galan007
From Batman 702.

There's also the Ancestor Box:

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9297/darkybullet3.th.jpg

From what we see in the issue, the Ancestor Box seems only to be the origin of the hyper-time creature following Bruce through "The Return of Bruce Wayne", a creature who will eventually become Dr. Hurt.

The actual time travel/synethetic lives/altering history 'around' Bruce seems to be attributed to "The Omega Sanction", just as it was in Mr. Miracle.

Cooly, this puts Neil Gaiman's "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader" into continuity and context.

Anyway, it's left ambiguous, and I'm mostly indifferent, but that's what I got out of it, especially with the Ancestor Box's name (specifically that it takes over the form of Batman's ancestor, Thomas Wayne, and turns him into Batman's greatest enemy, Dr. Hurt).

Desaad
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Plus he revamped the Worlogog into a true/confirmed universal+ power.

He didn't actually do much with it, he mostly just confirmed what Kirby and Kupperberg did in Superpowers. It wasn't doing anything that a cosmic cube couldn't do.

It was, weirdly, Tom Peyer and Geoff Johns who really elevated to something more. Especially Johns, who had Extant destroy and remake universes in his own image, with his own physical laws.

Galan007
Originally posted by Desaad
He didn't actually do much with it, he mostly just confirmed what Kirby and Kupperberg did in Superpowers. It wasn't doing anything that a cosmic cube couldn't do.

It was, weirdly, Tom Peyer and Geoff Johns who really elevated to something more. Especially Johns, who had Extant destroy and remake universes in his own image, with his own physical laws. Before the Rock of Ages arc the Worlogog was written as little more than a New God trinket that allowed for time manipulation. Morrison is the one who introduced the concept that the 'gog is a complete map of time/space from big bang to omega point, and allows it's user to manipulate every facet of reality (a concept which paved the way for Extant's rampage with it.)

Desaad
Before Rock of Ages, the Worlogog had only ever appeared in the Kirby/Kupperberg Super Powers series that introduced it, and there it was introduced as a 'physical manifestation of time and space itself! The worlogog contains the power to accelerate or suspend time AND space if you are its master!"

Morrison's description is almost identical to that given at its inception, and he didn't actually have the thing do anything more impressive, either. Again, Peyer and Johns gave it far more credit.

Galan007
Originally posted by Desaad
and he didn't actually have the thing do anything more impressive Darkseid warping a universe with it was quite impressive, imo.

Desaad
Originally posted by Galan007
Darkseid warping a universe with it was quite impressive, imo.

That's not really what happened, though, in Rock of Ages. While the exact mechanism was never elucidated upon, the implication was that destruction of the Worlogog (by Superman, stopped by J'onn ultimately) would have led to Darkseid being free to take over the universe. Now given what we know now, it appears that the Worlogog was some DEFENSE that the universe had against Darkseid's incursion into 'lower' space.

Space M ummy
Originally posted by Desaad
That's not really what happened, though, in Rock of Ages. While the exact mechanism was never elucidated upon, the implication was that destruction of the Worlogog (by Superman, stopped by J'onn ultimately) would have led to Darkseid being free to take over the universe. Now given what we know now, it appears that the Worlogog was some DEFENSE that the universe had against Darkseid's incursion into 'lower' space.

nah. The rest of the new gods were just so pissed off that earth's heroes destroyed it, that they simply allowed darkseid to take over earth.

The 'gog itself had nothing to do with it.

Desaad
Originally posted by Space M ummy
nah. The rest of the new gods were just so pissed off that earth's heroes destroyed it, that they simply allowed darkseid to take over earth.

The 'gog itself had nothing to do with it.

Haha, what? No. Darkseid 'turned New Genesis into a stinking, cosmic sewer'...he 'fouled paradise'.

It was the Worlogog, and it's causality.

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