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I've seen scans of Mary, billy, and jr trying to KO Adam at the same time, but no luck. Same with Marvel, who has shown to have true invulnerability (Juggernaut style). Who's the weakest character that will be successful in KO'ing PC Adam and Billy?

Post Crisis Black Adam, and he's the weakest and strongest able to do it.

Post Crisis adam wasn't able to tickle Superboy Prime.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Post Crisis adam wasn't able to tickle Superboy Prime. He was using magic. If he puts his magic away, he KO's Prime with half a slap

If you're name isn't Squirrel Girl then you're not on this list.

Marvel & Squirrel Girl will probably go out for a drink.

PC Validus

doctor sivana has already done it. he just needs a little prep is all.

Originally posted by Galan007
doctor sivana has already done it. he just needs a little prep is all.

how'd he do it?

Duh....With Prep.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
PC Validus

pound for pound, i don't see pure strength doing anything.

Also, SHAZAM himself couldn't hurt Adam in one of his origin stories.

Originally posted by KingD19
Duh....With Prep.


hahaha, smart ass.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
how'd he do it? by essentially feeding off the same energies that give shazam his powa.

...he actually made shazam his b*tch.

Originally posted by Galan007
by essentially feeding off the same energies that give shazam his powa.

...he actually made shazam his b*tch.

That sounds like PIS. Seeing as SHAZAM couldn't harm BA.

Didn't Havok do the same thing with the Living Monolith?? He absorbed the same type of energy, but Havok did it better, so LM had nothing to power him?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
That sounds like PIS. Seeing as SHAZAM couldn't harm BA. as far as pre-crisis feats go, i wouldn't say sivana's was PIS at all..

after years of research, sivanna found a way to 'overpower' the wizard shazam, by placing him in a trance:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9170/sivana00.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8352/sivana0.jpg

with the wizard out of the way, sivana was free to reroute the magical energy of shazam, into himself - which birthed, "captain sivana":
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1907/sivana1.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/853/sivana2.jpg

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and like i've been saying, "captain sivana" was powerful enough to own..

shazam:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4720/sivana3.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6070/sivana4.jpg

the marvel family:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6481/sivana5.jpg

e-2 superman:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4521/sivana6.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9220/sivana7.jpg

'mainstream' superman:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6572/sivana8.jpg


...dude was pretty uber.

Originally posted by Galan007
as far as pre-crisis feats go, i wouldn't say sivana's was PIS at all..

after years of research, sivanna found a way to 'overpower' the wizard shazam, by placing him in a trance:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9170/sivana00.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8352/sivana0.jpg

with the wizard out of the way, sivana was free to reroute the magical energy of shazam, into himself - which birthed, "captain sivana":
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1907/sivana1.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/853/sivana2.jpg

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and like i've been saying, "captain sivana" was powerful enough to own..

shazam:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4720/sivana3.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6070/sivana4.jpg

the marvel family:
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6481/sivana5.jpg

e-2 superman:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4521/sivana6.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9220/sivana7.jpg

'mainstream' superman:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6572/sivana8.jpg


...dude was pretty uber.

Wow, thanks for the scans. I'll check them out tonight. I can't view them here.

Anyway, is this Fawcett Sivanna? He does seem pretty smart.

Would you place him in the same league with Reed Richards?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Anyway, is this Fawcett Sivanna? He does seem pretty smart.

Would you place him in the same league with Reed Richards? nope. t'was DC sivana.

i'd probably place pre-crisis sivana in the same general tier as reed. current sivana, though? not so much.

Originally posted by Galan007
nope. t'was DC sivana.

i'd probably place pre-crisis sivana in the same general tier as reed. current sivana, though? not so much.

Fawcett version of Marvel had the true invulnerability, right? The scans I saw seemed really old.

Originally posted by Galan007
nope. t'was DC sivana.

i'd probably place pre-crisis sivana in the same general tier as reed. current sivana, though? not so much.

Oh, BTW, Mr. Mind had a similar feat. He drew the power from the universe itself to fuel a powerful body. This was to meet the standards to battle Cap Marvel.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Fawcett version of Marvel had the true invulnerability, right? The scans I saw seemed really old. they're all invulnerable. though DC did seem to dim down captain marvel a smidge once they got their hands on him. afterall, in his fawcett days marvel was essentially superman, with absolutely no weaknesses to speak of. obviously DC couldn't let their golden child be outshined.

Originally posted by Galan007
they're all invulnerable. though DC did seem to dim down captain marvel a smidge once they got their hands on him. afterall, in his fawcett days marvel was essentially superman, with absolutely no weaknesses to speak of. obviously DC couldn't let their golden child be outshined.

Yeah, even the scans showed Billy, Mary, and Freddy one-shotting Adam and he basically just laughed it off. This was at the same time. So, yeah, no weakness.

weakest um.. Jessica Rabbit?