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who knows, it took several super saiyan's powers combined to defeat him the first time.

Power Levels are never mentioned after Future Trunks first appears so...there is no power level for Broli.

Broly is stronger than everyone.

It's over 9000.


*smashes scanner*

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's over 9000.


*smashes scanner*



FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


That was going to be MY answer!

Broly is definitely stronger than Cell. no idea what his power level is, but it's greater than Cell's. him wiping the floor with the Z-fighters while Cell could actually be hurt by them proves it.

Maximum.

Power levels are inconsistent and pointless, Toriyama stopped using them after the Frieza saga. Any number anyone tells you would just be pointless speculation.

Below Majin Buu's

* agreed, somewhere above Cell and below Buu...

Brolly is way too overated if anything he might be as strong as ssj2 gohan if anything

Powerlevels are useless after the Freeza arc, and that he is non canon which makes it hard to make a power level for him. I would put LSSJ Broly to be a bit weaker then Perfect Cell. I think anyone above SSj2 should beat just fine.

Originally posted by yungz22
Brolly is way too overated if anything he might be as strong as ssj2 gohan if anything

yeah but Broly himself was SSJ1 and wrecked Goku, Goham, Vegeta, Trunks (all on SSJ1) and Piccolo (who was on the same level IIRC)
it needed their combined power to defeat him (pretty stupid ending in the movie btw, I mean all of them were totally down and exhausted and gave Goku their power and then....)

just imagine Broly on SSJ3 (or 4 if you like DBGT)

Originally posted by Parmaniac
yeah but Broly himself was SSJ1 and wrecked Goku, Goham, Vegeta, Trunks (all on SSJ1) and Piccolo (who was on the same level IIRC)
it needed their combined power to defeat him (pretty stupid ending in the movie btw, I mean all of them were totally down and exhausted and gave Goku their power and then....)

just imagine Broly on SSJ3 (or 4 if you like DBGT)

The thing about DBZ is numbers mean nothing as long as your power level is higher than the people you are fighting you will win. Because if your going by the fact it took 4 ssj's plus piccolo to beat brolly i could also say gohan easily wrecked the cell jr's who are stronger than the z warriors brolly fought.

he's around ssj2 level..

OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I agree with slaanesh he will be close to super saiyan 2 level, but not quite as stronge so i would put his power level around 280,000,000

He was stronger than SSJ2 Gohan.

That said, Broly's power level not only has never been officially stated, it is not even constant. His power continues to increase the longer he stays in that form.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He was stronger than SSJ2 Gohan.

*Stronger than a much weaker version of SSJ2 Gohan's original SSJ2 form at the cell games.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That said, Broly's power level not only has never been officially stated, it is not even constant. His power continues to increase the longer he stays in that form.

Troof.

well he just grows stronger the longer he fights or remains in lssj

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111126224916/dragonball/images/2/24/V2.jpg

1.4 billion vin

there are two different ways power levels where read the scanner(saiyens) and what they used for ssj goku in the buu saga(he was 800 in ssj form) so it gets really confusing on power lvl in buu saga broly(movie 8) was some time before the androids started theyre rampage and was most likely equal to cells 2nd form the reason he had green ki was the same reason why some the same reason some have yellow or blue ki but his ssj stage as you call it where his hair is sorta green is actually just restrained ssj form his unrestrained ssj form is showed in the flashback n is like all other ssjs his final forms limit was never seen but given the fact that the longer saiyans battle the stronger they get plus brolys power naturally grows he might not have a limit so in other words he has no set power lvl as for cell and buu they where both far stronger than broly cell was weaker than a ssj2 but not by alot while broly could got beat by the brother kamehameha (at the time gohan was weaker than when he fought cell and goten hadnt trained in the hyperbolic time chamber so they where pretty weak) but like i said given enough time broly could beat ssj4 gogeta

Is the Broly movie 8 the one where his father takes Vegeta to

the fake planet vegeta , I have only seen the DBZ series long time ago

Broly awesome but the way goku beat him sucked wish it didnt end

that way

Originally posted by peacebreaker
I did not read the manga or anything other than watch dragon ball z and all the movies. i want to know what is broly's exact power level if anyone knows and what is kid buu's and cell's power levels just to compare.
-what i know about broly (please correct me if something is wrong):


ok here is what the answers that you was looking for over the period of time that this was asked, unfortunately i just found this and can now give you this info.

1.Broly dosent have an exact Power level. from Japan it was never determined but it took 4 Super Saiyan and a Super namek to temporarily defeat him. mind you he took a full powered kick from vegeta in the begining of the fight with little to no effect which would indicate his is at least one half to double Vegeta full power.

2 this isnt a canonical movie as that it goes along with the story, but if it was to be placed as a date it is to my knowledge that it is in the time when the Z Fighters where suppose to have the seven days rest before the Cell Games.

3. the device didnt stop his power from developing, it was only a inhibitor, way to control his mind and thus keep him from becoming more uncontrollable then when Paragras lost his eye. he had the device built only to control, not stop his growth. the device if anything made him stronger by only allowing him to have a little power in his transformed state.

4. its not an infection that makes his aura that color, all Saiyans have a natural aura color, such as vegeta's was blue until he became SSj. same as Goku. the Legendary SSj was a form that was so powerful that the only way to describe it was with the most powerful energy color known to humans(GREEN IS LIFE BTW for those who believe in aura and what not.) his form of Super Saiyan was basically normal in the "Second Coming" the form broly has is the perfect level of Super Saiyan the massive muscle was actually the only way to allow the huge increase in power and allow the user to live. not to be mistaken for trunks' form of ultra SSJ. this form doesnt sacrifice Sppe for power making it the most powerful level of SSj known to DBZ.

5. the second Coming movie took place while gohan videl, trunks and goten where training for the upcoming tournament. this is why they was all able to fly at this time. also they didnt kill Broly, the Sun killed broly, in fact their kamehameha didnt even effect him in his shell. that shell is impenetrable. they was only able to knock him back into the sun due to the fact that gohan was abel to tap into SSj2 as was goku by this time. his power was abel to be extended longer in his spirit body and without the mortal fatigue they was abel to push him away.

6. if you reall want a comparable group of fighters. for this then read www dragonball-multiverse com(you know how to fix this) its a fan based web comic but out of all the ons i shun on here. they make more sense because they dont break the rules with Saiyan levels that dont exsist. SSj 4 is the last Saiyan level due to it being a hybrid of both the Oozaru and SSj3 form. in it they had Vegetto go SSj 3 just to knock him out into space in a one on one fight. and it still didn beat him then.

7. and yes Bio-Broly was trash, not even a real Saiyan. its like the crystal skull movie, it never happened. lol.

Originally posted by deathcon27
well he just grows stronger the longer he fights or remains in lssj

those are wrong BTW. the time when Cooler came to earth was suppsoe to be just after goku returnd from after the fight with frieza. and technicaly this wasnt canon because at the time he came back he was on yardrat at this time. but just to say. if this helps out. based off the japanese website that i read while i was in Okinawa.

goku-300,000
Kaiokenx10- 3,000,000
Kaiokenx20-6,000,000
SSj-15,000,000

Frieza-530,000
2nd-1,000,000
3rd-2,000,000
4th50%-6,000,000
75%-8,000,000
100%- 12,000,000

trunks 5(supressed)
SSj-16,000,000

Goku SSj-16,500,000

frieza-bot-12,500,000
king cold -12,000,000

king colds power was claimed stronger than frieza and goku was far stronger than 300,000 he was able to compete with final form frieza 25% so theres no way he way 300,000 he was just suppressing his full strength against captain ginyu plus he took damage so when healed he was stronger than before frieza-bot was actually stronger than 100% frieza becuz he said it himself ssj trunks was weaker than ssj goku trunks had just achieved ssj not long before he went back in time while goku trained nonstop for a year so i saw the website and well powers are very innaccurate if your pay attention to the show it contradicts itself power levels arent measured after final form frieza the scanner cant go that high

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111126224916/dragonball/images/2/24/V2.jpg

1.4 billion vin
I'm not big on power-levels, but 1.4 billion seems to be a bit low.

Frieza's power doubled with each transformation, so we have the following list.

The first form was given in the series as: 530,000, and with each transformation his power doubled, making 1,060,000, 2,120,000, and 4,240,000 accordingly.

Goku was able to rival Frieza's base power after he restored. So the 3,000,000 estimated in the Daizenshuu seem plausible.

He went up to Kaio-ken 10 -- and 20 -- against Frieza after he decided to use 50% of his power.

So, 60,000,000 also seem like plausible numbers. Making the 150,000,000 and 120,000,000 given in the Daizenshuu reliable as well.

Broly at 1.4 billion wouldn't even make him 10 times as powerful as Goku against Frieza. Considering how Gohan was a Super Saiyan he had trained in the room of time and spirit.

So we had one Super Namekian, two Ultra Saiyans, and two Mastered Super Saiyan.

Broly power level was in the trillions probably higher. Super Saiyan 2 and 3 was up there as well imo.

Originally posted by Astner
I'm not big on power-levels, but 1.4 billion seems to be a bit low.

Frieza's power doubled with each transformation, so we have the following list.

The first form was given in the series as: 530,000, and with each transformation his power doubled, making 1,060,000, 2,120,000, and 4,240,000 accordingly.

Goku was able to rival Frieza's base power after he restored. So the 3,000,000 estimated in the Daizenshuu seem plausible.

He went up to Kaio-ken 10 -- and 20 -- against Frieza after he decided to use 50% of his power.

So, 60,000,000 also seem like plausible numbers. Making the 150,000,000 and 120,000,000 given in the Daizenshuu reliable as well.

Broly at 1.4 billion wouldn't even make him 10 times as powerful as Goku against Frieza. Considering how Gohan was a Super Saiyan he had trained in the room of time and spirit.

So we had one Super Namekian, two Ultra Saiyans, and two Mastered Super Saiyan.

Power levels are outdated anyway.

Those power levels are supposed to be official for the movie characters, and Movie Gogeta has one as well. He's at 2.5 billion.

Originally posted by carver9
Broly power level was in the trillions probably higher. Super Saiyan 2 and 3 was up there as well imo.

Assuming those PL's are canon, it was over a Billion, not trillions or higher. Though Broly could increase his power level, there was a cap he reached.

1. looking at gohan's and trunk's hairdoo, the broly movie took place most likely after they trained for the cell games but before the games itself

2. goku took on cell and was almost a match but decided that he'd loose in the long run.

3. broly beat the shit out of goku.

4. due to his body mass, i'm inclined to believe that broly is at ultra ssj2 levels. nothing majin vegita couldn't handle.

1,200,000,000

Though I'll doubt we'll ever get closer to a canon level than V-Jump's 1.4 billion.

Super Perfect Cell's powerlevel was greater than Brolly's. It's funny when people say kid Gohan's supersaiyan 2 was more powerful than Super Perfect Cell's yet Cell was able to break Gohan's arm with a weak attack ment to kill Vegito.

Well we all know broly is stronger than any other non fusion super saiyan 1 but not quite as strong as a super saiyan 2 so I'd put it between 220,000,000 to 260,000,000.

1,400,000,000 is broly's power level

Trunks was the last person's powel level that was considered canon and that power level was 5. They never showed how strong cyborg freeza or king cold power level was. That is all websides personal opinions.

Originally posted by big juggy man
Trunks was the last person's powel level that was considered canon and that power level was 5. They never showed how strong cyborg freeza or king cold power level was. That is all websides personal opinions.

The ones Demonic Phoenix posted were from Jump, the magazine that publishes DB.

So while they aren't Akira Toriyama made, it's not like the movie was either, so it's about as good as you're going to get.

Originally posted by deathcon27
well he just grows stronger the longer he fights or remains in lssj I know it has become popular for people to believe that but it is never actually stated in the movies he appears in. Yes he says in his first movie that he's getting stronger much stronger but that doesn't mean he is constantly getting stronger, he was probably just reaching his form's full power. I know a lot of people think broly is invincible but he is really overrated, the only reason he so thoroughly beat the z fighters is because he was the first enemy to be that far ahead of any of the individual z fighters. If broly's power was really constantly growing then the power goku got from the others would not be enough.

Originally posted by Q99
The ones Demonic Phoenix posted were from Jump, the magazine that publishes DB.
What? Videogame Jump publishing DB. Who did you think you were going to fool with this pathetic lie?


Oh really? Let's crack open the last issue of the Daizenshu and see for ourself what Akira actually made.

http://i.imgur.com/Emaa0.jpg

FPSSJ Goku and FPSSJ Gohan at 3,000,000,000 and 2,500,000,000?

And Broly was analmageddoning both of them and USSJ Vegeta, USSJ Trunks and NK Piccolo at the same time.

And Broly is just 1,400,000,000? That's ****ing retarded.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
What? Videogame Jump publishing DB. Who did you think you were going to fool with this pathetic lie?

You do realize it's all Shueisha, right?


It's not Akira, it is flawed, but it's still the best you're going to get.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's over 9000.


*smashes scanner*

I just saw this thread.... you beat me to it.

Originally posted by Q99
You do realize it's all Shueisha, right?

It's not Akira, it is flawed, but it's still the best you're going to get.
>Sees Daizenshu power level chart written by the author himself
>>Ignores it
>>Claims that the VJump bullshit made with the announcement of the new game is "the best you're going to get".......

Then again you're one of the biggest DBZ bashers on SB so it makes sense that this kind of garbage and ignorance would come from you.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
>Sees Daizenshu power level chart written by the author himself
>>Ignores it
>>Claims that the VJump bullshit made with the announcement of the new game is "the best you're going to get".......


You do realize that Broly and other stuff is unofficial to begin with, yes? And wasn't created by Akira Toriyama in the first place? So Akira and Daizenshu are never going to make powers based on them?


So yea, it's not very good, but it's also put out by the original publisher and thus the best you're going to get, because Broly himself is non-canon.




Hah, you and your 'anyone who doesn't say something wins all the time and takes the most absurd interpretations possible is a basher!'


I though you left here after, like, half a dozen people called you out on how wrong you were on Naruto stuff?

1. The writers of the Daizenshu had good contact with the author as well as the other people involved with the manga. They would not have published something the author didn't agree with. It's considered official and canon.

2. Even if Broly is unofficial we can estimate where he would be ranking among the officially ranked characters.


3. You're a basher because you promote ignorance and lies just to downplay some of the most successful manga and anime out there. You even make excuses to ignore canon feats and plot exposition.

4. No I did not leave. I just did not have time to deal with all your bullshit (half dozen, lol). Some people actually study and don't have time to talk (or in your case cry) about manga all day and if you're like myself enrolled in medicinal school you have even less time.

Lol Q99 even logs out of humiliation.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler

3. You're a basher because you promote ignorance and lies just to downplay some of the most successful manga and anime out there. You even make excuses to ignore canon feats and plot exposition.

Hehe, ah yea, the 'lightspeed plus ninja,' the 'Bleach characters, even most minor hollows, are immune to everything not made of spirit particles, up to, including, and beyond planetary destruction,' and 'the Sage of Six Paths is omnipotent and created the universe.'



Everyone laughed at you when you called me a basher for disagreeing with that stuff because they know my actual opinions. Not agreeing with crazy-exaggerated interpretations based on single lines that don't fit with observations of the actions in the manga doesn't make one a basher.




I wasn't even arguing in the last threads you were in, I was sitting back and enjoying other people take apart your argument

I was one who took you apart back at SB, but here, the other people were the ones who did most of the arguing, I didn't have to.



I know, I know, you don't view it that way, your way is always right and everyone else is always wrong no matter how inconsistent your way is with show evidence, but that's just your view, no-one else views it that way. You'll also, given a bit of time, re-write any argument where you convinced no one of your points as a 'win' in your head. You just work like that.


Heck, the only reason you came here is because people at SB weren't buying your crazy interpretations and you were hoping you could find someone you could convince, probably.

Lightspeed+ ninja = best shit I've ever heard about Naruto.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Lightspeed+ ninja = best shit I've ever heard about Naruto.

I know, right?

One wonders what a series would look like if they really *were* like that!

Hey, it was originally my thread back on SB where this happened.

And it wasn't just the Ninjas that got uberwanked by the claims EV made. If any of his claims rang true, even ordinary civilians and wild animals would be reletavistic in pure speed. It was madness in motion to watch!

Eventually, Zor's ultimate insult was used, and the world laughed.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Hey, it was originally my thread back on SB where this happened.

And it wasn't just the Ninjas that got uberwanked by the claims EV made. If any of his claims rang true, even ordinary civilians and wild animals would be reletavistic in pure speed. It was madness in motion to watch!

Eventually, Zor's ultimate insult was used, and the world laughed.

Hi Darkstorm And it happened here too, a bit later.

It... didn't last very long, quite the dogpile ^^

*Shakes head*

Some do not ever learn, do they?

For the viewing pleasure of the audience

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
1. The writers of the Daizenshu had good contact with the author as well as the other people involved with the manga. They would not have published something the author didn't agree with. It's considered official and canon.

2. Even if Broly is unofficial we can estimate where he would be ranking among the officially ranked characters.


3. You're a basher because you promote ignorance and lies just to downplay some of the most successful manga and anime out there. You even make excuses to ignore canon feats and plot exposition.

4. No I did not leave. I just did not have time to deal with all your bullshit (half dozen, lol). Some people actually study and don't have time to talk (or in your case cry) about manga all day and if you're like myself enrolled in medicinal school you have even less time. I tore you a new ******* consistently and regularly actually.

Get on my level.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I tore you a new ******* consistently and regularly actually.

Get on my level.

"Effect Veiler cannot be bargained with, he cannot be reasoned with. He doesn't understand logic, or common sense, or debating etiquette, and he absolutely will not stop, ever, until the debate dies of attrition."

"Can you stop it?"

"I dunno, with the amount of butthurt he has, I dunno..."

Weren't we supposed to be talking about broly's power level, how do we always steer from the point of the thread, someone should create a thread on anime and manga in general. Look we all just argue about the reality of the animes and what the characters are capable of but its all just speculation unless any of you have seen in writing or speech what the anime creators intended none of us know anything for sure. Part of the confusion we get sometimes is that they visually look either stronger or weaker than what they are in theory or on paper, instead of b****ing all day long lets just agree we all like anime and that we have are own opinions.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I tore you a new ******* consistently and regularly actually.

Get on my level.

Yea, Neme definitely did do a lot of the tearing.