Colossus VS Iron man

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Colossus-Big C
H2H no weapons.











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Warlord
Ironman should have little problems

Parmaniac
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C

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Lord Feron
Colossus!!!

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SoulDevourer
colosus

Warlord
oh come on...what can colossus do to Tony?

Darth Martin
Assuiming this is Tony then I'll go with Colossus. Piotr does not tire but Tony's suit will potentially exhaust itself.

The Nuul
Current IM has mark 1 armor doesnt he? he gets stomped.

Warlord
I didn't know that....embarrasment

Darth Martin
I thought this was Extremis Tony.

Warlord
Extremis Ironman would destroy Piotr

The Nuul
Nope....thats was during Civil War.

DarkOdin
Current Ironman was back to one of his first armors if i am not mistaken in a H2H fight Colossus turns him into a tin can.

Warlord
ah it's a h2h fight...that's why most people vote Colossus.....my bad

Darth Martin
Originally posted by Warlord
Extremis Ironman would destroy Piotr In a straight up fight, sure. But in a fight with h2h only stipulations on it'd work the other way around. Piotr'd destroy Tony.

KingD19
Only armor Iron Man could take Pete in a h2h fight would be the original Hulkbuster armor.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by KingD19
Only armor Iron Man could take Pete in a h2h fight would be the original Hulkbuster armor.

No... there is also WWHbuster, Thorbuster... Extremis should do the job, too.

The Nuul
Ex is fast enough but Pitor is just too durable it will be a matter of time before he starts getting his hits in for some real damage.

Survivor19
What does "no weapons" on the OP means?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Survivor19
What does "no weapons" on the OP means?

That Tony can't use his suit shocklaugh

No big loss anyway. Mark Zero vs. Colossus? laughing out loud

Parmaniac
or maybe he can use it but it's turned off like a TV stick out tongue

no seriously I think he's reffering to his arsenal (beams etc) at least I hope so...

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Parmaniac
or maybe he can use it but it's turned off like a TV stick out tongue

no seriously I think he's reffering to his arsenal (beams etc) at least I hope so...

Yes he has the suit but cant use any weaponson it only h2h

-Pr-
solely h2h, colossus should take it imo.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Yes he has the suit but cant use any weaponson it only h2h

You have to specify what suit Tony gets for this fight. His current armor is no match for Piotr... not to mention the diminished intelligence.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You have to specify what suit Tony gets for this fight. His current armor is no match for Piotr... not to mention the diminished intelligence.

Hulk Buster

SamZED
Tony Stark without the IM suit = Steve Rogers miffed So he wins even without it.

Hewhoknowsall
Can't Iron Man lift 85 tons? Isn't that more than Colossus?

SamZED
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Can't Iron Man lift 85 tons? Isn't that more than Colossus? They both can lift over 100.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Hulk Buster

The original one or the new one?

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Can't Iron Man lift 85 tons? Isn't that more than Colossus?

Colossus is Class 100. So is IM in most of his suits, I think.

KingD19
Extremis Iron Man is Class 100, so is Colossus. All the Hulkbusters and super big armors are also Class 100, anything else tops out at 95 I believe.

StiltmanFTW
Pretty sure there are many non-extremis, non-buster armors that are Class 100. They just need to be fully charged.

KingD19
Probably right.

ColossusGrundy
Originally posted by Warlord
oh come on...what can colossus do to Tony?

Pretty much whatever Hulk, Herc, and any other class 100+ could do to him.....tear him apart hand to hand, that's what.

Lots of Piotr hate on this website.


H2H, Colossus 10/10.

If you add Tony's weapons, it becomes more interesting.

SuperiorTech
http://a.imagehost.org/t/0177/Iron_Man_305-03-04.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0521/Iron_Man_305-05.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0920/Iron_Man_305-06.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0823/Iron_Man_305-07.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0125/Iron_Man_305-08.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0021/Iron_Man_305-09.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0429/Iron_Man_305-10.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0316/Iron_Man_305-13.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0722/Iron_Man_305-14.jpg

DarkOdin
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Pretty much whatever Hulk, Herc, and any other class 100+ could do to him.....tear him apart hand to hand, that's what.

Lots of Piotr hate on this website.


H2H, Colossus 10/10.

If you add Tony's weapons, it becomes more interesting.

Colossus is not in hercules or the Hulks league.

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Colossus is not in hercules or the Hulks league. he is still strong enough to rip iron man apart.
the question is what can iron man do to colossus?

snoopdogg
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Colossus is not in hercules or the Hulks league. Colossus has knocked Hulk the f*ck out.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus has knocked Hulk the f*ck out.

So has Tony stick out tongue

snoopdogg
It's been awhile since I saw that. You have scans?

Kris Blaze
Originally posted by SuperiorTech
http://a.imagehost.org/t/0177/Iron_Man_305-03-04.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0521/Iron_Man_305-05.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0920/Iron_Man_305-06.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0823/Iron_Man_305-07.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0125/Iron_Man_305-08.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0021/Iron_Man_305-09.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0429/Iron_Man_305-10.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0316/Iron_Man_305-13.jpg http://i.imagehost.org/t/0722/Iron_Man_305-14.jpg

Is Tony even harming him?

KingD19
Also notice that's Hulkbuster armor, Colossus ko'd Hulk as a teenager.

snoopdogg
I think Iron Man kayoed him back in the day.

namorsubby
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Current Ironman was back to one of his first armors if i am not mistaken in a H2H fight Colossus turns him into a tin can. hasn't tony taken out savage hulk in the old armor......and bested submariner(with circumstances)? why couldn't he take colossus?

snoopdogg
Originally posted by namorsubby
hasn't tony taken out savage hulk in the old armor......and bested submariner(with circumstances)? why couldn't he take colossus? This is H2H. He has to leave the tricks in the bag.

chomperx9
colossus can hit alot harder than tony with his armor

horrorwolf
Going hand to hand with Colossus = Instafail for stark.

Ironman would be a sitting duck.

Colossus 9/10

namorsubby
Originally posted by snoopdogg
This is H2H. He has to leave the tricks in the bag. oh, guess i should read the stipulations first embarrasment

Eternal Idol
Colossus would beat Iron Man in h2h.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by snoopdogg
It's been awhile since I saw that. You have scans?

Originally posted by Galan007
Iron Man , knocks the Hulk out... With one punch:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3985/imhulk1in6.th.jpg http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3343/imhulk2ki2.th.jpg http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1309/imhulk3bl2.th.jpg http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8240/imhulk4pd5.th.jpg

Oldschool or not, I think it's safe to say Tony's one of the only characters to ever do that. giggle00


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The reason Tony collapsed after the 'fight':

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/271/imhulk5ag7.th.jpg

Colossus-Big C
I believe colossus body is more durable than iron man armor

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I believe colossus body is more durable than iron man armor thumb up

ironmans armor aint that durable anyway

KingD19
Spider-Man punched a hole in Iron Man's mask. SPIDER-MAN!!!!!

In the Civil War arc Cap beat his armor all to hell.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by KingD19
Spider-Man punched a hole in Iron Man's mask. SPIDER-MAN!!!!!

In the Civil War arc Cap beat his armor all to hell.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that Extremis suit wasn't the most durable.

I've never actually seen that. Just him ripping the mask off.

Steve has superhuman strength and indestructible weapon which is razor sharp (depending on the writer lulz).



Tony one-shotted bestial She-Hulk, too.

KingD19
You never let me have any fun.

SoulDevourer
oh yeah and dont forget that chinese guy who aint even got superstrenght yet he can damage Ironmans armor with his FISTS laughing out loud

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by KingD19
You never let me have any fun.

evil face

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
oh yeah and dont forget that chinese guy who aint even got superstrenght yet he can damage Ironmans armor with his FISTS laughing out loud

Mandarin and Temugin? They are superhumanly skilled and amp themselves with chi.

Colossus IS more durable, all right. But it's not impossible for Stark to knock him out.


The thread starter said Tony gets Hulkbuster suit... going by the default rules we've to assume it's the most current one shifty Which performed quite well against WWH.

If I wanted to a pain in the neck I'd ask what suit he wears under that hulkbuster laughing out loud But no need for that. Tony for the win.

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Mandarin and Temugin? They are superhumanly skilled and amp themselves with chi. yeah Mandarin

ok there chi or w/e give them a bit of superstrenght but it dont make them strong like Jugs or something roll eyes (sarcastic)

WTF this suppose to be Ironman


id like to see how there "chi amp" works on some1 like Ultron (u think they coud crack his armor too? laughing out loud )

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by KingD19
Also notice that's Hulkbuster armor, Colossus ko'd Hulk as a teenager.

It is the Hulkbuster armor being used for this fight.

The Pict
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Hulk Buster

He would trash Colossus in that armour

Edit: Wait maybe not. I'm thinking of the WWH armour that Tony wore.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
yeah Mandarin

ok there chi or w/e give them a bit of superstrenght but it dont make them strong like Jugs or something roll eyes (sarcastic)

WTF this suppose to be Ironman


id like to see how there "chi amp" works on some1 like Ultron (u think they coud crack his armor too? laughing out loud )

They can sense weak spots in his armor and body and exploit them.

Shang-Chi hurt Thing. Wolverine broke Rock of the Buddha with one chop. Daredevil beats Mr Hyde all time. Temugin also hurt the Hulk... welcome to Marvel Universe.

Ultron is indestructible, Colossus is not. They could go for the joints or cause vibrations so some of his internal mechanisms would get damaged... okay, I don't see that happening too often either tbh laughing out loud

Anyway, they wouldn't damage Piotr's armor. They'd use pressure points, Whedon-style shifty

Originally posted by The Pict
He would trash Colossus in that armour

Edit: Wait maybe not. I'm thinking of the WWH armour that Tony wore.

That was new hulkbuster model. We use most current versions unless stated otherwise, so I don't see the problem cool

gogogadgetgo
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
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Master Court
I can't believe some people still think Colossus KO'd Hulk. Hulk wasn't KO'd anymore than Colossus was just moments before. A 70-Toner KO'ing Hulk? That's f*cking stupid.


Anyway, if it were standard Iron Man, Colossus should handle it with ease in a one minute fight. Current Iron Man is kind of a jackass lately. But if we're talking about the WWHulk Hulkbuster armor, Colossus is gonna have to work a little harder. It should take him two minutes to scrap that heap of junk.

Badabing
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
H2H no weapons.











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biscuits


stick out tongue

Rage.Of.Olympus
Wow, the amount of respect Iron Man is getting here is just poor.

Even in his old Golden/Red armor this guy has impressive showings against Hulk, Namor, Count Nefaria, Silver Surfer, Hercules etc.

Honestly, even back in the day, Iron Man had all the tools to win this slug fest. Especially if he uses the maximum power trick, where he charges all his energies into a few punches. He would put Colossus down if he tried that.

Tony was always a resourceful bastard.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by Master Court
I can't believe some people still think Colossus KO'd Hulk. Hulk wasn't KO'd anymore than Colossus was just moments before. A 70-Toner KO'ing Hulk? That's f*cking stupid.


Looking at Hulk's face I'd say he was kayoed. Even if it was for a minute or so.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20fights/Hulkktfo.jpg

Spire
H2H, Colossus.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk does look out of it.

Well, Colossus did pretty well against Classic Juggernaut in some of their fights so isn't that bad of a showing.

Colossus probably rivals his strength at base (If we use the stupid handbook rankings.), while having better hand to hand skills, and seemed to be faster. Used effectively and that can result in a knock out early into a fight with Savage Hulk.

The Pict
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


That was new hulkbuster model. We use most current versions unless stated otherwise, so I don't see the problem cool

The new Hulkbuster would be the current one then, and Tony would stomp cool

thanos-prime
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wow, the amount of respect Iron Man is getting here is just poor.

Even in his old Golden/Red armor this guy has impressive showings against Hulk, Namor, Count Nefaria, Silver Surfer, Hercules etc.

Honestly, even back in the day, Iron Man had all the tools to win this slug fest. Especially if he uses the maximum power trick, where he charges all his energies into a few punches. He would put Colossus down if he tried that.

Tony was always a resourceful bastard.

You rock.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by thanos-prime
You rock.

No need to state the obvious.

snoopdogg
If Colossus can match Gladiator in a slugfest I don't see Tony lasting very long.

Prep-Man
Colossus loses.

The Pict
Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Colossus can match Gladiator in a slugfest I don't see Tony lasting very long.

OP said it was Hulkbuster armour though. It's not regular IM armour.

snoopdogg
Any H2H feats of this new armor?

The Pict
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Any H2H feats of this new armor?

If we use the current versions it's the one he fought WWH in. He would wreck Colossus in that armour.

snoopdogg
Didn't he reach into his bag of tricks though?

The Pict
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Didn't he reach into his bag of tricks though?

No he fought WWH before trying the Spin tech and missles and had a pretty good handle on Hulk tbh

snoopdogg
What issue did he go H2H with WWHulk again?

The Pict
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7774/67069400.jpg

Goodnight Colossus

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Tony was always a resourceful bastard. and yet he never got teh idea to make an armor outa adamantium or somethin. u know, make some REAL armor that dont get cracked when some1 punches it laughing out loud

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Colossus can match Gladiator in a slugfest I don't see Tony lasting very long.

Bullshit.

Tony's held his own against Immortal Hercules, has gone toe to toe and even taken the advantage over Namor (Under Water but he used he radiated heat when he defeated Namor.), Iron Man's beaten the Hulk in a slug fest, stalemated the Silver Surfer etc (Silver Surfer was holding back his energy attacks.). Dude's was even gaining ground on Count Nefaria after he stomped the Avengers, by using the maximum power trick.

This was back in the original Red/Gold Armor.

The Pict
Originally posted by snoopdogg
What issue did he go H2H with WWHulk again?

The first issue man. It wasn't until after the Hulk was incinerated by the missiles that the fight turned to Hulk's favour. Was evenly matched before hand. But while he was being burned he thought of his wife that was killed and I imagine his strength increased.

snoopdogg
Oh, the fight in issue #1. That wasn't a pure H2H fight I recall. I think he used some other abilities like flight in that one or some sh!t. I also recall that armor getting ripped up after that. Well Tony may win in that armor but his standard armor isn't going to be good enough.

ColossusGrundy
This would be a good fight.
Colossus is a 100+ since Marvel declared he's not a teenager anymore.

Tony would have his hands full and I still say Colossus wins 8/10 depending on the writer.

Love the post with Big C KO'ing the Hulk. I read that issue and it rocked.

The Pict
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Oh, the fight in issue #1. That wasn't a pure H2H fight I recall. I think he used some other abilities like flight in that one or some sh!t. I also recall that armor getting ripped up after that. Well Tony may win in that armor but his standard armor isn't going to be good enough.

Hulk was in the air too,man. Until the Spin tech f*cked up (which is explained in the Avengers: The Initiative if you haven't read it) Tony had the fight pretty much in his favour. They met in the air but IM was the first up, he knocked Hulk around but it all went to shit after the missiles failed to take out WWH.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Iron Man's new Hulkbuster armor would shit stomp Colossus.

ColossusGrundy
Colossus

SoulDevourer
actualy depends wich version o colosus

if its classic colosus (the one Jug said he can crush like a steel safe big grin) then he get stomped

but upgraded colosus stomps

KingD19
Classic Colossus got props from Juggernaut, held his own against Gladiator, was going head up with Tanaraq backed Sasquatch, etc...

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Galan007
WWH vs. The Hulk Buster:

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KingD19
Hulk jumped out of the ship, but Iron Man had tons of thrust and way more momentum. He also mixed in energy blasts, and increased his punching power by turning on boosters in his gauntlets. Hulk also couldn't deliver the full strength of his blows since he had nothing to brace himself with. In a straight h2h fight, as strong as this armor is, I say Colossus wins. He did better against WWH than Iron Man did, and he only used his fists, he didn't even use any of his real training.

SuperiorTech
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Iron Man's new Hulkbuster armor would shit stomp Colossus.

Master Court
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk does look out of it.

Well, Colossus did pretty well against Classic Juggernaut in some of their fights so isn't that bad of a showing.

Colossus probably rivals his strength at base (If we use the stupid handbook rankings.), while having better hand to hand skills, and seemed to be faster. Used effectively and that can result in a knock out early into a fight with Savage Hulk.

Except the second Colossus got close, Hulk's eyes snapped open and he immediately stomped Colossus. Hulk's played possum before. Just because he can smash, doesn't mean he doesn't use strategy, even against people who don't pose much of a threat. Besides, Hulk didn't revert to Banner. As far as I know, except for Banner-Less Hulk, if Hulk were KO'd, he "Banner-Out".


Anyway, thinking it over again, I'd have to say Iron Man probably does win. Seeing that WWHulk scan reminded me of just how powerful the Hulkbuster armor was. Considering WWHulk turned Colossus into a useless shiny pile of sh*t, for the Hulkbuster to have stood against WWHulk for as long as it did clearly puts it above Colossus as well.

Before, I was thinking about how badly She-Hulk had beat on Iron Man, but that was the standard suit, and I doubt Tony was really trying to do much harm.

As for those scans where Tony has to go all-out to KO Hulk, that seems to be what Marvel figured around that time. Remember those strength charts where Iron Man is at the top saying something like "If I focus all my energy, I can reach this level... for about ten seconds" or something like that?


So I think standard Iron Man probably takes at least a majority against Colossus, and Hulkbuster Iron Man takes it 10/10. Not only is the Hulkbuster armor way more powerful than Colossus, Tony is also leagues higher in intelligence, and has many more years of experience, including with the Avengers. H2H, I think Colossus is likely a better fighter. But overall, Iron Man outclasses him with intelligence, strategy, and all the weapons at his disposal.



Plus the Hulkbuster armor is powerful as all Hell.

Master Court
Originally posted by KingD19
He did better against WWH than Iron Man did, and he only used his fists, he didn't even use any of his real training.


Not really, when you think about it.

Iron Man was punching WWHulk all over the place, and it looked like a real fight. Colossus, though, was really just in the mix of X-Men. After WWHulk had cleared out some lesser mutants and Colossus took a shot, and it was just the two of them, WWHulk took the time to trash talk and cripple Colossus extremely easily. All in all, Colossus really didn't do well at all. Some shots you can see him punching Hulk with absolutely no effect. But as soon as he got in a good shot on Hulk, Hulk broke both his arms.

KingD19
Iron Man doesn't get any of the Hulkbuster's perks though. Like enhancing it's punching power with thrusters, or hitting Colossus with the energy blasts he used on Hulk. I'm not sure he can ko Colossus without those thrusters engaged.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by KingD19
Iron Man doesn't get any of the Hulkbuster's perks though. Like enhancing it's punching power with thrusters, or hitting Colossus with the energy blasts he used on Hulk. I'm not sure he can ko Colossus without those thrusters engaged.

Sure, maybe you want to just turn off his armor? wink

Look, if we disabled the thrusters for this fight, we would have to disable the other machinery too. It's not the only thing that enhances his striking power. Hell I'm pretty sure he can't operate that hulkbuster w/o extremis... let's take away extremis then! You see? stick out tongue

I agree that energy blasts can't be used though.

Master Court
Okay, only melee allowed. Still. He should be allowed to do whatever he can with his armor. If that includes thruster-blasting his punches, so be it.

And those punches are what sends Colossus to La La land.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by KingD19
Hulk jumped out of the ship, but Iron Man had tons of thrust and way more momentum. He also mixed in energy blasts, and increased his punching power by turning on boosters in his gauntlets. Hulk also couldn't deliver the full strength of his blows since he had nothing to brace himself with. In a straight h2h fight, as strong as this armor is, I say Colossus wins. He did better against WWH than Iron Man did, and he only used his fists, he didn't even use any of his real training.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Master Court
Except the second Colossus got close, Hulk's eyes snapped open and he immediately stomped Colossus. Hulk's played possum before. Just because he can smash, doesn't mean he doesn't use strategy, even against people who don't pose much of a threat. Besides, Hulk didn't revert to Banner. As far as I know, except for Banner-Less Hulk, if Hulk were KO'd, he "Banner-Out".

Anyway, thinking it over again, I'd have to say Iron Man probably does win. Seeing that WWHulk scan reminded me of just how powerful the Hulkbuster armor was. Considering WWHulk turned Colossus into a useless shiny pile of sh*t, for the Hulkbuster to have stood against WWHulk for as long as it did clearly puts it above Colossus as well.

Before, I was thinking about how badly She-Hulk had beat on Iron Man, but that was the standard suit, and I doubt Tony was really trying to do much harm.

As for those scans where Tony has to go all-out to KO Hulk, that seems to be what Marvel figured around that time. Remember those strength charts where Iron Man is at the top saying something like "If I focus all my energy, I can reach this level... for about ten seconds" or something like that?

So I think standard Iron Man probably takes at least a majority against Colossus, and Hulkbuster Iron Man takes it 10/10. Not only is the Hulkbuster armor way more powerful than Colossus, Tony is also leagues higher in intelligence, and has many more years of experience, including with the Avengers. H2H, I think Colossus is likely a better fighter. But overall, Iron Man outclasses him with intelligence, strategy, and all the weapons at his disposal.

Plus the Hulkbuster armor is powerful as all Hell.

You could interpret it that way. I'm just saying that Colossus is pretty strong and basically in Savage Hulk's Class at his base. Throw in superior fighting skills and speed, and it's not far fetched that he momentarily knocked him out. Writers tend to use the entire his relative to his opponent bullshit. Colossus clearly wasn't portrayed as being able to go blow for blow from what I recall.

Yea Classic Iron Man fluctuated, "a lot" but he was a beast at times. He has stalemated and even took the advantage over Namor underwater, stalemated Silver Surfer, held his own against Hercules, temporarily out slugged Count Nefaria, and other shit. The only real person who was clearly was portrayed above him on a consistent level would have been Thor.

Throw in his tricks and bullshit (He always managed to pull something out of his ass when needed.), and he was the most formidable Avenger next to Thor on a general basis. Anyone who dismisses him here easily, based on some of his showing don't know their shit.

Just so you know, Iron Man has one shotted Savage She-Hulk once.

In the new Hulkbuster Armor? Tony would shit stomp Colossus.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just so you know, Iron Man has one shotted Savage She-Hulk once.

Already mentioned that.

Originally posted by Galan007
One-shots an enraged She-Hulk:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/8851/imshe1zl8.th.jpg http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3548/imshe2yo7.th.jpg

Master Court
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You could interpret it that way. I'm just saying that Colossus is pretty strong and basically in Savage Hulk's Class at his base. Throw in superior fighting skills and speed, and it's not far fetched that he momentarily knocked him out. Writers tend to use the entire his relative to his opponent bullshit. Colossus clearly wasn't portrayed as being able to go blow for blow from what I recall.

Yea Classic Iron Man fluctuated, "a lot" but he was a beast at times. He has stalemated and even took the advantage over Namor underwater, stalemated Silver Surfer, held his own against Hercules, temporarily out slugged Count Nefaria, and other shit. The only real person who was clearly was portrayed above him on a consistent level would have been Thor.

Throw in his tricks and bullshit (He always managed to pull something out of his ass when needed.), and he was the most formidable Avenger next to Thor on a general basis. Anyone who dismisses him here easily, based on some of his showing don't know their shit.

Just so you know, Iron Man has one shotted Savage She-Hulk once.

In the new Hulkbuster Armor? Tony would shit stomp Colossus.


Fair enough on the Colossus KO Hulk thingy. I just don't think they defined what that was very well. KO? Stun? Playing possum? But to have Hulk taking on gods and heralds yet get KO'd by a plain ol' mutant. It would have to be considered a low showing of Hulk and high showing of Colossus. Even if just to secure the dignity of Hulk's rivals like Thor, Juggernaut, and Hercules. Against the Hulk, Colossus should be in the same boat as Thing. Thing's only ever KO'd Hulk with circumstances, but even in the old days Hulk has ended the fight when he got bored of it. One-shots and such.


Yeah, like I said, when She-Hulk was beating on him, I didn't get the feeling Iron Man was really trying. He mostly seemed to be trying to talk to her. But she was pissed, it clearly wasn't equal effort.


And, ditto. The new Hulkbuster armor was the shiznit.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Master Court
Fair enough on the Colossus KO Hulk thingy. I just don't think they defined what that was very well. KO? Stun? Playing possum? But to have Hulk taking on gods and heralds yet get KO'd by a plain ol' mutant. It would have to be considered a low showing of Hulk and high showing of Colossus. Even if just to secure the dignity of Hulk's rivals like Thor, Juggernaut, and Hercules. Against the Hulk, Colossus should be in the same boat as Thing. Thing's only ever KO'd Hulk with circumstances, but even in the old days Hulk has ended the fight when he got bored of it. One-shots and such.

Yeah, like I said, when She-Hulk was beating on him, I didn't get the feeling Iron Man was really trying. He mostly seemed to be trying to talk to her. But she was pissed, it clearly wasn't equal effort.

And, ditto. The new Hulkbuster armor was the shiznit.

Writer's some times pull the entire he was at base strength shit, and ignore the fact that he amps ridiculously fast. Also, when Colossus did that, it was after Hulk went away, and had calmed down (By the lake.), so I think he was meant to be portrayed around base, which is like what almost a 100 tons? So I don't consider it that bad of a showing really. It was made clear if it became a slug fest what would happen.

Cool.

Yup. Iron Man and the Hulk were clearly fighting at another level than when the Hulk fought the X-men.

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