Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/was-the-photoshopped-ralph-lauren-model-fired-for-being-overweight-525248/


I like my women with curves and not photoshop.

Up yours Fashion World.

I'll throw in an "up yours" to the laughable fashion world regardless of their preferences.

That being said, Ralph Lauren is ridiculous.

Just what KMC needs...More non-news.

Originally posted by jaden101
Just what KMC needs...More non-news. What do you think we should discuss?

What led people and society to deem irrelevant shit like this news and discussion worthy?

Failing that...Stephen Gately jokes.

Originally posted by jaden101
What led people and society to deem irrelevant shit like this news and discussion worthy? Should make a thread about it.


Though I don't think this topic is so invalid at all.

Just what KMC doesn't need...a member acting like PVS.




(not to be taken as a knee jerk)

Fashion industry is run by a bunch of flaming queens, it's not hard to understand why why want women to look like teenage boys.

On a serious note though, I see this as a problem, as we get young girls impressioned by this image that this is how women should look, and they either starve themselves or start intentionally vomitting out good food. It also makes fat-girls cry, which isn't much of a problem, but certainly isn't nice.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Just what KMC doesn't need...a member acting like PVS.




(not to be taken as a knee jerk)

Judging from the traffic lately I'd say KMC definitely needs a member like PVS again.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/was-the-photoshopped-ralph-lauren-model-fired-for-being-overweight-525248/ Ralph be chillin' too much with Karl.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/oct/12/lagerfeld-size-zero-thin-models


I like my women with curves and not photoshop.

Up yours Fashion World.

So Ralph Lauren is still a c***...

What's the name of the wonderful fashion designer who used NORMAL sized women on his catwalk a few weeks ago, the right direction!!

I've also seen over time, in polls and so on, men prefer a normal sized woman over a size minus 1,000,000...

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Just what KMC doesn't need...a member acting like PVS.




(not to be taken as a knee jerk)

I'm sure he'd find the comparison as amusing as me given the debates we had.

Almost as funny as when someone said I was sticking up for my "friend" AC in the music forum.

Originally posted by jaden101
Just what KMC needs...More non-news.

Then dont post or read it.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Then dont post or read it.

I didn't post it. Is there something wrong with you?

Please stay on topic.

So no Stephen Gately jokes then?

****!

I like my girls big. Ralph Lauren has two first names.

Enough said.

Originally posted by jaden101
So no Stephen Gately jokes then?

****!

Best to wait at least a week.

Dude, this lady is HOT!


This picture of her...day uhm!

The way her breasts are accentuated, how full her and healthy her body appears while retaining some athleticism in the underlying muscles. She's gorgeous. Those breasts are almost perfectly shaped.



In other words, **** you, Ralph Lauren, and your stupid idea of how a women should look. She is obviously NICE in the below picture. She probably would look even better with a few more pounds.

Ch-ch-ch-chubby chaser!!! nuts

Behold the ''ideal''

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

are you serious?

what a sick man.

More ''sexy'' women-that-look-like-boys.

http://www.pro-thinspo.com/sitebuilder/images/zeromod-193x600.jpg

http://www.pro-thinspo.com/images/00005boooones.jpg

http://www.pro-thinspo.com/images/00038lwx5boneee.jpg

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Behold the ''ideal''

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

She looks . . . fragile.

That's really quite sad.

i think it should be illegal to demand a figure like from your clients i dont care if it sounds like im knee jerking.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Behold the ''ideal''

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg

This is not photoshop'd in any way? Because she looks like she did a stint in the Dachau CC.

Those are some sick looking women. Like...really. They look sick with some disease that eats away at your flesh from the inside.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Ch-ch-ch-chubby chaser!!! nuts
NAY! If I can't squeeze the breasts together and..........(not safe for a PG-13 forum.)

Edit - ANd don't bring that fake implant stuff up as an excuse!

Originally posted by dadudemon
NAY! If I can't squeeze the breasts together and..........(not safe for a PG-13 forum.)

Edit - ANd don't bring that fake implant stuff up as an excuse!

Ah preefers me sum 2D wimmins.

Or just literature; the human body is utterly off putting to me, specially the naughty bits.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Ah preefers me sum 2D wimmins.

That's okay, but real is better.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Or just literature; the human body is utterly off putting to me, specially the naughty bits.

That's strange.

Those pictures posted by lil.....ugh....

Seriously WTF is wrong with Ralphy boy?! Are these clothes intended to lure poor 3rd world nations women or something?

Seriously, no....burn all your fashion magazines ladies.





We men will keep the good magazines.

Is the next big thing for RL going to be designer number wrist tattoos and parallel striped clothing with matching hats, wooden shoes, yellow stars, and pink triangles?

ralph lauren is douchebag...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Behold the ''ideal''

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/size0Model_285x450.jpg


gross

The whole idea behind these women being touted as 'beautiful' is that normal women won't see normal as okay. This is the fashion industry's way of creating need states, so that -- in conjunction with the diet industry -- it'll be easier to sell normal, healthy women products and/or services they don't actually need.

Ah, the Dark Side of Capitalism.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
We men will keep the good magazines.

probably the most interesting issue in this whole thing

women are only rail thin in womens' magazines. porn normally has well rounded women.

actually, I remember reading somewhere on the internet (the height of academia) that porn actresses are hired more on their facial proportions than on their bodies, with big eyes and round face being the ideal. That facial type generally corresponds to a woman with wider hips.

just sayin.

Originally posted by Mindship

Ah, the Dark Side of Capitalism.

That's communist talk.

The market is always correct. Obey the market!

Originally posted by Mindship
The whole idea behind these women being touted as 'beautiful' is that normal women won't see normal as okay. This is the fashion industry's way of creating need states, so that -- in conjunction with the diet industry -- it'll be easier to sell normal, healthy women products and/or services they don't actually need.

Ah, the Dark Side of Capitalism.

Meh, there's a dark side to everything... even light...

Originally posted by Mandrag Ganon
Meh, there's a dark side to everything... even light... Indeed. It can keep you awake at night.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's communist talk.

The market is always correct. Obey the market! These days, the market is lookin' pretty good, actually...

the fault is of Capitalism that women are motivated to buy things that they feel will make them look attractive, even though that image of attraction is not the same that most men share?

Originally posted by inimalist
probably the most interesting issue in this whole thing

women are only rail thin in womens' magazines. porn normally has well rounded women.

actually, I remember reading somewhere on the internet (the height of academia) that porn actresses are hired more on their facial proportions than on their bodies, with big eyes and round face being the ideal. That facial type generally corresponds to a woman with wider hips.

just sayin.


Indeed. Was there a study or few done that indicated that hetero women checked each other out more than they did men? Women are very competitive with their looks. So are men; but, on average, not on level with women.

I have a baseless theory about that: because early man was less monogamous, women developed to be competitive with each other, as to win a mate more permanently, which contributes to the success of the offspring. Therefore, it's either in their genetics or it is such an old social behavior that it's hard to tell if it's genetic or not.

This is not to say that men do not "peacock" about, as they do. However, how many men get facials, manicures, pedicures, put on eye-liner, eye shadow, lip-liner, lipstick, mascara, cover-up, etc? That could be a function of contemporary culture, but, I think it also has roots with our early ancestors (meaning, not purely social, but also has a degree of genetics). Again, men do the same thing...but, on average, not to the same degree.





Anecdotally, when I go to hang out with my homies, I make sure I don't smell too bad, put on clothes that are halfway decent, and go. Takes me 10 minutes, at the most. My wife (mother, sisters, aunts, my lady friends, Hollywood females, and just about every female I've been exposed to (no silly puns, please)) gets "all done up" (that's what we okies say) just to go eat dinner with her lady friends ("haha" funny funny. No, my wife is not going out on me. Just get the point and don't make jokes.) Why do women have to look so good for each other? They're very competitive...even in pop culture they are competitive.




I think I forgot where I was going with this....



Anyway, gangly thin is for women. Full bodied are for men. These are averages, of course. But, all too many times I hear young ladies and women say, "oh, she's sooo cute/gorgeous" and they're looking at a picture of Kiera Knightly who needs to gain about 20lbs.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Indeed. Was there a study or few done that indicated that hetero women checked each other out more than they did men? Women are very competitive with their looks. So are men; but, on average, not on level with women.

I'm unaware of such a study, but I would question the use of "checking out" in your statement.

Men are, I would suspect, equally as aware of their social standing as women are, just that the culture we come from glorifies the external beauty of women whereas men are commended for their ability to accomplish things. Men are very aware of who their potential competition is along dimensions which they feel matter to how others evaluate them.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I have a baseless theory about that: because early man was less monogamous, women developed to be competitive with each other, as to win a mate more permanently, which contributes to the success of the offspring. Therefore, it's either in their genetics or it is such an old social behavior that it's hard to tell if it's genetic or not.

This is not to say that men do not "peacock" about, as they do. However, how many men get facials, manicures, pedicures, put on eye-liner, eye shadow, lip-liner, lipstick, mascara, cover-up, etc? That could be a function of contemporary culture, but, I think it also has roots with our early ancestors (meaning, not purely social, but also has a degree of genetics). Again, men do the same thing...but, on average, not to the same degree.

This is largely cultural

I agree that somewhere along the line, there are probably genetics that make females of the species concerned with appearance, but other cultures on Earth and through history have had similar requirements of men, though normally as feats of strength.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Anecdotally, when I go to hang out with my homies, I make sure I don't smell too bad, put on clothes that are halfway decent, and go. Takes me 10 minutes, at the most. My wife (mother, sisters, aunts, my lady friends, Hollywood females, and just about every female I've been exposed to (no silly puns, please)) gets "all done up" (that's what we okies say) just to go eat dinner with her lady friends ("haha" funny funny. No, my wife is not going out on me. Just get the point and don't make jokes.) Why do women have to look so good for each other? They're very competitive...even in pop culture they are competitive.

again, largely cultural

there is more demand on women to look good, even if they are just going to the store, whereas men don't need that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think I forgot where I was going with this....

no, you've illustrated a very difficult line to draw. I tend to think you've selected very salient examples of how our culture envisions the differences between men and women, but they are illuminating of what might be genetic predispositions.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Anyway, gangly thin is for women. Full bodied are for men. These are averages, of course. But, all too many times I hear young ladies and women say, "oh, she's sooo cute/gorgeous" and they're looking at a picture of Kiera Knightly who needs to gain about 20lbs.

indeed

Has there ever been a culture where a man's worth was measured by the size/volume of his shits? Anyone.

the modern one to some degree










some homosexuals in Native American populations would undergo "pregnancies" where they would hold in their poop, and finally let it go as a "still birth"

Originally posted by inimalist
probably the most interesting issue in this whole thing

women are only rail thin in womens' magazines. porn normally has well rounded women.

actually, I remember reading somewhere on the internet (the height of academia) that porn actresses are hired more on their facial proportions than on their bodies, with big eyes and round face being the ideal. That facial type generally corresponds to a woman with wider hips.

just sayin.

From what I read a certain number of porn actress have tried to be models but were either cut or turn down for the body types. I've always argue that porn actress don't need to dress slutty to look hot...they just need to be average looking (which btw it's the current fad with the MILF porn)

Originally posted by inimalist

some homosexuals in Native American populations would undergo "pregnancies" where they would hold in their poop, and finally let it go as a "still birth"

WTF?

Originally posted by Robtard
Has there ever been a culture where a man's worth was measured by the size/volume of his shits? Anyone.

The one you're living in.

See

Originally posted by Robtard
WTF?

I'm trying to remember it. The article was talking about gender identity in Natives... Homosexual men basically took up the social role of women, like, to the extreme.

I remember it saying that men would once a month scratch themselves between the legs until it bled to simulate menstruation. A lot of this, imho, was related to the fact that "maleness" was probably defined by fertility, so the "female" in a relationship would still need to be fertile and, in the case of the "still birth", it is not the man who has the problem producing offspring (not that there was any mention of the still birth being the fault of the homosexual man). But, I really don't know.

This was anthropology though, so take it as you see fit

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
I've always argue that porn actress don't need to dress slutty to look hot...they just need to be average looking

sometimes not even that

*all models come with their very own mallet set *color coordinated, of course* and double as xylophones!*

edit - WTF? This only happens when I'm using IE6 at work!

Ignore this post!

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm unaware of such a study, but I would question the use of "checking out" in your statement.

The females had their eyes on the other females more than they had their eyes on the males.

Originally posted by inimalist
Men are, I would suspect, equally as aware of their social standing as women are, just that the culture we come from glorifies the external beauty of women whereas men are commended for their ability to accomplish things. Men are very aware of who their potential competition is along dimensions which they feel matter to how others evaluate them.

My point was very specific to just the visual aspect. There is no doubt that men are competitive with each other.


Originally posted by inimalist
This is largely cultural

I agree that somewhere along the line, there are probably genetics that make females of the species concerned with appearance, but other cultures on Earth and through history have had similar requirements of men, though normally as feats of strength.

I said my point was baseless but it really isn't. Early females humanoids had to attract a male for at least 2 years. Curiously, this is the barrier that the "in love" chemical portion wears off. (In other words, staying in love beyond that point cannot rely, as much, on the chemical aspect of love.)



Originally posted by inimalist
again, largely cultural

there is more demand on women to look good, even if they are just going to the store, whereas men don't need that.

No doubt that it is cultural. There are probably some sort of genetics involved in a direct fashion (pun), in some way.

However, I agree that it's very much a cultural thing. In fact, in a different cultural setting, men may have ended up as the "pretties"....even with the same set of genetics, as the "genes" of wanting to be attractive and competitive for potential "good" mates are in both sexes.



Originally posted by inimalist
no, you've illustrated a very difficult line to draw. I tend to think you've selected very salient examples of how our culture envisions the differences between men and women, but they are illuminating of what might be genetic predispositions.

Cool. That makes my point sound smarter than I intended. awesome

Originally posted by jaden101
The one you're living in.

See

Ugh, had forgotten about that site.

Originally posted by jaden101
What led people and society to deem irrelevant shit like this news and discussion worthy?

Feel free to go start a news-worthy discussion elsewhere if you have a problem with the topic at hand.

Originally posted by inimalist
some homosexuals in Native American populations would undergo "pregnancies" where they would hold in their poop, and finally let it go as a "still birth"

Finally, a scientific reason to fear gays.

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm trying to remember it. The article was talking about gender identity in Natives... Homosexual men basically took up the social role of women, like, to the extreme.

I remember it saying that men would once a month scratch themselves between the legs until it bled to simulate menstruation. A lot of this, imho, was related to the fact that "maleness" was probably defined by fertility, so the "female" in a relationship would still need to be fertile and, in the case of the "still birth", it is not the man who has the problem producing offspring (not that there was any mention of the still birth being the fault of the homosexual man). But, I really don't know.

This was anthropology though, so take it as you see fit

It's no wonder why they were slaughtered and lost most of their lands.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Finally, a scientific reason to fear gays.

Na, when they're able to give a live poop-birth, then we'll talk.

Originally posted by REXXXX
Feel free to go start a news-worthy discussion elsewhere if you have a problem with the topic at hand.

Apparently everyone has a problem with the topic at hand seeing as the discussion have meandered into something completely different.

I shall make topics in my own good time.

Related article...

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/fashion/2009/10/15/2009-10-15_skinny_on_fat_model_raises_ire.html

seems Ralphy boy done before.

Fo shame!

Originally posted by jaden101
Apparently everyone has a problem with the topic at hand seeing as the discussion have meandered into something completely different.

I shall make topics in my own good time.

Topic at hand is Ralph Lauren and "female image" industries putting out an female image that is too skinny and even unhealthy.


I've stuck fairly close to the topic....haven't I?

The women shown in this thread are some of the most unattractive human beings I have ever seen in my life.

Ralph Lauren isn't the only one to blame for this... it happens worldwide... and has been said, it's the western culture that can be blamed for this.

At London Fashion week:
http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/ap/nyr10601121937.widec.jpg

Madrid fashion show:
http://www.viciousstyle.com/fashionnews/bones.jpg

Theres a difference between toned and a size 0. I personally love my size and I'm a 5'2" woman who weighs less than 65kg. I'm a healthy weight for my size and I still have residual fat on my form.
I honestly think that ultra skinny models are more like walking skeletons than beautiful models. I mean, look at the difference between a Victoria Secret model and the the ones I've posted previously.

http://www.webwombat.com.au/lifestyle/fashion_beauty/images/victoria-secret-models-2.jpg

As a woman, I'd define that as beautifull... so stuff designers like Armani, Ralph Lauren and the rest.

Originally posted by TRiNiTYfemi
Ralph Lauren isn't the only one to blame for this... it happens worldwide... and has been said, it's the western culture that can be blamed for this.

At London Fashion week:
http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/ap/nyr10601121937.widec.jpg

Madrid fashion show:
http://www.viciousstyle.com/fashionnews/bones.jpg

Theres a difference between toned and a size 0. I personally love my size and I'm a 5'2" woman who weighs less than 65kg. I'm a healthy weight for my size and I still have residual fat on my form.
I honestly think that ultra skinny models are more like walking skeletons than beautiful models. I mean, look at the difference between a Victoria Secret model and the the ones I've posted previously.

http://www.webwombat.com.au/lifestyle/fashion_beauty/images/victoria-secret-models-2.jpg

As a woman, I'd define that as beautifull... so stuff designers like Armani, Ralph Lauren and the rest.

Oddly enough the third woman is the only attractive one. The rest I'd be afraid of breaking them if I touched them.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Oddly enough the third woman is the only attractive one. The rest I'd be afraid of breaking them if I touched them.

thank god for curvy women that don't pay attention to people like ralph lauren.

Any woman who looks at that magazine cover and says to herself "I wanna look like that" deserves to have low self-esteem.

Originally posted by BackFire
The women shown in this thread are some of the most unattractive human beings I have ever seen in my life.

But the sex is spectacular, crunching cartilage, bone and all.

Originally posted by -Pr-
thank god for curvy women that don't pay attention to people like ralph lauren.

well said

Originally posted by TRiNiTYfemi
Ralph Lauren isn't the only one to blame for this... it happens worldwide... and has been said, it's the western culture that can be blamed for this.


Originally posted by inimalist
the fault is of Capitalism that women are motivated to buy things that they feel will make them look attractive, even though that image of attraction is not the same that most men share?

replace "capitalism" with "Western Culture" in my quote, and explain to me how that works, thanks.

Originally posted by inimalist
replace "capitalism" with "Western Culture" in my quote, and explain to me how that works, thanks.

From my understanding it's consumerism at it's best. Not only are the companies that are to blame for this making loyal slaves to the look, they're also instilling a mindset of what is desirable. What is beautiful and as was stated previously, we women are the more compeditive. The skinnier we are, the better our clothes, the more expensive our jewellery and our perfume, apparently the more desirable we are.

This mindset kinda makes me laugh cuz my boyfriend likes the way I smell naturally, he finds me more attractive without a speck of makeup on and also when I wear sweats.

Originally posted by Robtard
But the sex is spectacular, crunching cartilage, bone and all. Thanks for that auditory mental image.

Originally posted by TRiNiTYfemi
From my understanding it's consumerism at it's best. Not only are the companies that are to blame for this making loyal slaves to the look, they're also instilling a mindset of what is desirable. What is beautiful and as was stated previously, we women are the more compeditive. The skinnier we are, the better our clothes, the more expensive our jewellery and our perfume, apparently the more desirable we are.

This mindset kinda makes me laugh cuz my boyfriend likes the way I smell naturally, he finds me more attractive without a speck of makeup on and also when I wear sweats.

so weak and defenseless women are brainwashed into believing things about beauty that are not congruent with what men think, and are not personally responsible for supporting, financially, the same people who produce that message.

Oh, and you just happen to be immune to the brainwashing.

Originally posted by inimalist
replace "capitalism" with "Western Culture" in my quote, and explain to me how that works, thanks.

I would change that to "Modern Western Culture"

Throught the ages women have been depicted in art with very curvy figures. Such as "Venus" by Botticelli or The Venus medici.

Folks, even classic art says women should be voluptuous

I'm more addressing the idea of women as victims of culture rather than active participants within it

Originally posted by inimalist
so weak and defenseless women are brainwashed into believing things about beauty that are not congruent with what men think, and are not personally responsible for supporting, financially, the same people who produce that message.

Oh, and you just happen to be immune to the brainwashing.

I didnt say I was immune to it at all... if I see an overtly skinny model showing new clothes by a top designer, by choice I'd be put off by that because thats the kind of image the designer wants portrayed. Out of principle I wouldn't buy their goods.

I never said anything about brainwashing. It's the woman's choice. And I'm personally apaulled by the images put out by most of the major fashion houses on how they think women should look.

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm more addressing the idea of women as victims of culture rather than active participants within it

People are as much producers of the popular perception of pretty as products of it.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Folks, even classic art says women should be voluptuous



RL pwned, with a cultural reference to classic art.

I'll say i again, ugh....Holocaust chic.

This:

Originally posted by TRiNiTYfemi
It's the woman's choice.

is not this:

Originally posted by TRiNiTYfemi
Ralph Lauren isn't the only one to blame for this... it happens worldwide... and has been said, it's the western culture that can be blamed for this.

Originally posted by TRiNiTYfemi
From my understanding it's consumerism at it's best. Not only are the companies that are to blame for this making loyal slaves to the look, they're also instilling a mindset of what is desirable. What is beautiful and as was stated previously, we women are the more compeditive. The skinnier we are, the better our clothes, the more expensive our jewellery and our perfume, apparently the more desirable we are.

Your earlier statements painted women as victims of the culture they perpetuate. You cannot blame Ralph Lauren, for nobody would care what he said if women weren't spending ludicrous amounts of money to try and look like his models.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
People are as much producers of the popular perception of pretty as products of it.

very much so. It might seem obvious, but it is rarely discussed in issues like this. People, especially women, are seen as passive recipients of culture, which is never how it works.

Originally posted by inimalist
very much so. It might seem obvious, but it is rarely discussed in issues like this. People, especially women, are seen as passive recipients of culture, which is never how it works.

They are still, however, recipients of the culture. Ralph Lauren and the like are very much involved with this happening since they basically define what it means to be attractive. Sure they only have this ability because women give it to them (yay Locke!) but it's still terribly irresponsible to set up a standard of beauty that is dangerous to people, especially younger girls who are much more succeptible to that sort of influence.

To end this sort of thing one has to get both the fashion community and women to drop this ideal, they're too closely entangled to expect pressure on one group to have a major effect.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They are still, however, recipients of the culture. Ralph Lauren and the like are very much involved with this happening since they basically define what it means to be attractive. Sure they only have this ability because women give it to them (yay Locke!) but it's still terribly irresponsible to set up a standard of beauty that is dangerous to people, especially younger girls who are much more succeptible to that sort of influence.

To end this sort of thing one has to get both the fashion community and women to drop this ideal, they're too closely entangled to expect pressure on one group to have a major effect.

I'm not disagreeing

The idea that culture is to blame, though, suffers the exact same criticism. Also, there is no such thing as "culture", but rather practices of individuals that occur in clusters. One could criticize schools, families and shopping malls as much as they could Lauren.

Could he be sending a better message? maybe, but he'd be out of business.

Also, I feel controversy like this drives the issue to be more invasive of people's lives than it otherwise would. I'm not really "up" with fashion or anything, but don't most people agree that models are too thin? I'd think it is a much smaller proportion of women who hold the Anna style girl up as the ideal than this argument would make you believe.

Originally posted by inimalist
I'm more addressing the idea of women as victims of culture rather than active participants within it

Read about the women of Ethiopia's Hamar (also Hammere) tribe, they're beaten by their male relatives to the point where it leaves life-long scars, during the said male's coming of "manhood" ceremony.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite

I like my women with curves and not photoshop.




ew

Originally posted by Robtard
Read about the women of Ethiopia's Hamar (also Hammere) tribe, they're beaten by their male relatives to the point where it leaves life-long scars, during the said male's coming of "manhood" ceremony.

Matriarchs of Indian families will often burn "substandard" wives of their sons to death.

Weird though. There was an island where ritual rape was essentially seen as a rite of passage for young men. It was some British administered place, I forget the name of, but the "leader" was charged in British court for some huge number of rapes, iirc. Maybe 5-6 years ago.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
She looks . . . fragile.

That's really quite sad. I know some girls who model from when I did it myself and other things that look just like that. It's so hard to look at really, I don't understand.

Originally posted by inimalist
Matriarchs of Indian families will often burn "substandard" wives of their sons to death.

Weird though. There was an island where ritual rape was essentially seen as a rite of passage for young men. It was some British administered place, I forget the name of, but the "leader" was charged in British court for some huge number of rapes, iirc. Maybe 5-6 years ago.


This sounds familiar. hmm


Do you have any info like names or locations? It will bother me until I remember it.

I'll never understand why anyone wants women to be super skinny.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This sounds familiar. hmm


Do you have any info like names or locations? It will bother me until I remember it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_sexual_assault_trial_of_2004

Originally posted by inimalist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_sexual_assault_trial_of_2004

AHA!



There's no way in hell I would have remember that island's name.


Now, more on topic, those men loved on women that looked like the overly skinny women in some of the photos posted earlier. They probably read RL. awesome

Originally posted by dadudemon
There's no way in hell I would have remember that island's name.

Google search: Pacific rape mutiny

Originally posted by dadudemon
AHA!



There's no way in hell I would have remember that island's name.


Someone on KMC has their location as the Pitcairn Islands...Can't remember who though.

Originally posted by jaden101
Someone on KMC has their location as the Pitcairn Islands...Can't remember who though.


If I were to venture a guess, it would be Bardock or PVS......


Wait....Mclovin'.

Originally posted by dadudemon
If I were to venture a guess, it would be Bardock or PVS......


Wait....Mclovin'.

I didn't know of the island.

Reading about it now though, McLovin would make sense.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I didn't know of the island.

Reading about it now though, McLovin would make sense.

I know, right?

awesome

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
ew

Hot!

Originally posted by jaden101
Someone on KMC has their location as the Pitcairn Islands...Can't remember who though.
McLovin?

Na...Some prick called "occultdestroyer" or something. Arsehole...Glad he's gone.

YEA!!!

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