Episode 26 - Senate Spy

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Ordo
Who's excited for relationship TENSION?!?

Hybris
excuse me ? embarrasment

Ordo
You're excused smile

REXXXX
Yay relationship tension!

-Pr-
ani and padme? wouldnt they have to have a believable relationship for them to have believable tension?

Ordo
You'd think. However, maybe they will use expositional dialogue like they did in ROTS just to let the audience know that the tension is there?

Example:

"I'm so mad at you"

"No, I'm SO mad at you."

"No, I was mad at YOU first."

"So madness has blinded you?"

-Pr-
Originally posted by Ordo
You'd think. However, maybe they will use expositional dialogue like they did in ROTS just to let the audience know that the tension is there?

Example:

"I'm so mad at you"

"No, I'm SO mad at you."

"No, I was mad at YOU first."

"So madness has blinded you?"

laughing out loud

funnily enough, i actually like the guy who does anakin's voice in CW. and i hate anakin.

Ordo
Then apparently he does a poor job of duplicating the movie character lol.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Ordo
Then apparently he does a poor job of duplicating the movie character lol.

he's just not as whiney.

far as the episode goes, i kind of liked it. the early romantic scenes were, well, weird, but bar that, it wasn't bad.

nothing makes you root for a guy more than seeing another man try to steal his woman...

Ordo
let alone one whose face looks like an iron..

Peach
I like Anakin so much better in TCW than in the actual movies, I think. Same basic character and personality, it's just portrayed better.

"What happened to your military transport?" "It...blew up." Awesome.

Ordo
Hehe. I loved that line too.

Peach
I burst out laughing at it. It was unexpected, pretty much out of nowhere...and perfect.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Ordo
let alone one whose face looks like an iron..

that too.

Originally posted by Peach
I like Anakin so much better in TCW than in the actual movies, I think. Same basic character and personality, it's just portrayed better.

"What happened to your military transport?" "It...blew up." Awesome.

aye. sense of humour ftw.

Dark Exile
Originally posted by Ordo

"So madness has blinded you?"

laughing out loud laughing out loud

DarthLazious
Out of all the Clone Wars episodes this would be my only favorite.

REXXXX
Why this one?

-Pr-
My favourite is still the Ryloth one with Obi-Wan and the two clones finding the little girl. That or the Mace Windu one where they attack the city.

Hybris
Anyway back on topic:

Is it just me or does anyone else also think that it was really cruel of Skywalker to leave that senator behind? After doing so, he just talks to Padmé without even feeling bad about it.

What happened to "IT'S NOT THE JEDI WAY" ?

Ordo
Since when has Anakin followed the Jedi way? Thats his entire problem.

REXXXX
And when he does adhere to it, it is only when it really suits his needs.

Ordo, I want a review, dammit.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Hybris
Anyway back on topic:

Is it just me or does anyone else also think that it was really cruel of Skywalker to leave that senator behind? After doing so, he just talks to Padmé without even feeling bad about it.

What happened to "IT'S NOT THE JEDI WAY" ?

the man was aiding the seperatists, so the argument could be made that he was commiting treason. anakin probably did him a favour...

Ordo
Originally posted by REXXXX
And when he does adhere to it, it is only when it really suits his needs.

Ordo, I want a review, dammit.

Its not gonna happen until next week. I still have to do Children (now) and I have a ***** of an exam on Monday.

ares834
Consider this:

In AOTC, Padme falls out of the ship and Anakin nearly abandons his duty to go after her. To straighten him out, all it takes from Obi-Wan is a scolding. He puts his focus back on the mission, even though Padme might be getting killed at that exact moment.

Move forward to ROTS, and obviously things have changed. No longer does duty in any way take precedence over her.

So, what happened in between?

We saw it in this episode. We see one of the key precipitating factors in Anakin becoming Darth Vader: Padme telling him to.

Her reaction to him in this episode when he has to break away from her for a little bit was quite telling. She is angry and emotionally punishes him... throwing his duty back in his face.

The ***** basically demands that he ultimately acts the way he does. It's not like his ROTS personna is out of character. Killing the younglings? Not the first time he massacred men, women, and children.... and she knew all about it, all along.

In this episode she makes it quite clear that his devotion to her should come before his devotion to duty.

Fickle little whore.

Ordo
Senate Spy
Episode 26
Season 2 Episode 4

Reaction: NEUTRAL +

On the whole a good episode. Its nice to see a stand alone in here after a 3 parter and followed by a 4 parter...just wasn't amazing enough to get a real positive reaction.

THE GOOD
“Ehhhh...it blew up.” Priceless.

“I’ve een signalling him all night.” I bet you have Kenobi...insert Anakin-Kenobi slash....here.

Kenobi’s face in the hologram scene.

I like that Padme has some dirty laundry and we get to go through it. I especially like that it puts Anakin in a rough spot.

I LOVE that Anakin is dumped in the Naboo trooper uniform. It’s a really clever way to get him in the episode, fits nicely with the Naboo use of decoys (re TPM and AOTC) and he actually looks pretty good in it.

Lot Dod. Not to be confused with Lok Durd, It was nice to see Dod back from TPM. Dod was especially good, a wonderful mix of the appeasing politician and a conniving Neimoidian...the bad guy who can put you at ease. No wonder he became a senator. He strikes me as the only Nemoidian I’ve seen who is smart and actually has stuff together. Dialogue and voice acting was excellent on his character as was the animation. Actually one of the characters I’ve been most impressed with in the entire show.

New Characters: Captain Typho, Poggle, and Lot Dod (see above). I love it when they incorporate these types of movie-background characters back into the series. I’ve always like Typho. And who does not want to hear Poggle speak again?

Those fembots have HIPS!

I love that the password is “Padme” She had a great face when saying it too.

THE BAD
Padme cooks...how stereotypcially feminine.

Is not a click a unit of distance...not time? Fail.

Padme having her power moment with the big hairdo...just did not work for me.

‘If you get tired...you can rest your head on my shoulder”...PLEASE. Not only is he horrbile with pickup lines, but he is practically tying to make out with an ex girlfriend after they met for one night?
Glittering poisons are always the most deadly.

“What a wonderful meal. My compliments to the droid” Well haha thats funny, but it strikes me in the future when droids can do everything, that an opulent society like that of the Nemoidians would value organic chefs. Maybe Chinese food is so simple though even a droid can make it? smile

THE UGLY
Senator Clovis? Scipio? Banking Clan? Especially since the Muun have been presented as the leaders of the banking clan...including the whole assault on Munnilist in Gendy’s Clone wars...including San Hill being at the meeting on Geonosis and kenobi overhearing him saying that the IGBC is part of the Seperatist Alliance...and Hill being aroudn until the end of the war...why the hell is it up for debate that the banking clan MIGHT be with the Separatists? His voice is wonderful though...good ass too.

Racism... Nemoidians are never a good sign. Fake chines accents aside, when you start channeling Chinese culture directly (with the cohort of advisors in very Chinese inspired hats and dress..not that the thin wavy pupils, flat noses and down-turned mouths did not give it away...) it borders on offensive. I mean, its nice from a political commentary perspective, and having a strong and relatable cultural background gives a lot of depth to the species, but sometimes it just goes too far.

WHATS NEXT?
I’d like to see Anakin leaving Clovis behind come back to bite him in the ass, especially because it really was Clovis that got them out of there.

REXXXX
I'll disagree on the comment about the Neimoidians valuing organic chefs, simply based on the fact that the Trade Federation uses droids for everything in the films. The Neimoidians strike me as being heavily dependent on droids.

Definitely think they missed something when putting this episode together about the Banking Clan, though. That was never a mystery, honestly.

Ordo
hmm...you have a point on the droids.

Hybris
another continuity breach with the Genndy series: The Banking Clan had already been defeated on Muunilist before Skywalker became a knight...

Ordo
Well, if there were multiple planets that were a part of it...

They said that the banking clan was financing both sides of the war. Maybe it "reformed" into a neutral entity. Still though, they should have mentioned it in the episode to make it clear what the continuity was.

I dont know whats going on.

REXXXX
Yeah, the Banking Clan itself was not defeated in the Genndy series. Just Muunilist, where it was based. No doubt it survived that encounter with Kenobi.

Ordo
But why would there still be a sentatorial representative of an organization that has financed the Seps?

Hybris
Well even the trade federation (member of the CIS) still had a senatorial representative according to the episode stick out tongue

REXXXX
Yeah, I'm sure they still had Senators. Otherwise those peeps would be out of a job.

Mayhaps Scipio, though part of the Banking Clan, had not declared its allegiance to the Separatists?

Ordo
Thats like a branch of Wal-Mart claiming it supports American jobs.

REXXXX
Yeah, maybe. Just a conjecture.

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