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I know this is MU's forte, but DC has their share of powerful ones as well. I'm probably forgetting some from each side, so please fill in or take some away. The ones I know and top 10 for each.

DC:
1. Zero Hour Saturn Girl (universal TP)
2. Psimon
3. Scanner (universal TP)
4. Tangent Superman
5. Martian Manhunter
6. Manchester Black.
7. Esper Lass (Saturn Girl's nemesis)
8. Gorilla Grodd
9. Classic Captain Comet
10. Hector Hammond

MU:
1. Xavier
2. Jean (Non PF)
3. Rachel
4. Emma Frost
5. Nate Grey
6. Cable
7. Moondragon
8. Stryfe
9. Exodus
10. Mister Sinister

In no order, btw.

1.

Cassandra Nova

1 what? BTW, if you know any others, please fill me in.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
1 what?

BTW, if you know any others, please fill me in. team 1.

superman m*

You always seem to give the DC teams the edge in these threads Prep...

Originally posted by Mindset
You always seem to give the DC teams the edge in these threads Prep...

Really? I thought MU had the edge, because of the summers family and Xavier. What makes you think DC's top 10 would defeat MU?

Originally posted by Galan007
team 1.

superman m*

What can Superman 1M do psichic wise? I know he held two galaxies, but I don't want to get too uber. Then I'd have to include Dominus and such.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Really? I thought MU had the edge, because of the summers family and Xavier. What makes you think DC's top 10 would defeat MU? I mean things like this "1. Zero Hour Saturn Girl (universal TP)" for example.

Originally posted by Mindset
I mean things like this "1. Zero Hour Saturn Girl (universal TP)" for example.

Well, the things SG has done, Xavier has done as well.

I'd put Zatanna above some of those DC telepaths, if you'd consider her mental abilities to be telepathy.
Martian Manhunter, for instance, has been pwnd out of Zee's hed a few times with ease.

Originally posted by Mindset
You always seem to give the DC teams the edge in these threads Prep...

Originally posted by quanchi112


if you read my post above, i state that people can add and take away. MU has the edge if we use the og lists. Or i see it going either way.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
if you read my post above, i state that people can add and take away. MU has the edge if we use the og lists. Or i see it going either way. I just agreed with another poster that you seem to favor dc. No biggie.

i wouldn't assume that. no biggie.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
i wouldn't assume that. no biggie. I think I know you better than that.

i don't think you do, so please stop assuming shit. i don't want to report you.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
i don't think you do, so please stop assuming shit. i don't want to report you. Then let it go. I agreed with another poster's assessment of you. If it isn't true I'm sure I'll change my opinion sooner or later.

the thread isn't about that. now, if you have something to add, then do. Or leave. that simple.

what are Supes 1m telepathy feats?

i'd like pretty much just mainstays. Supes 1M has hardly any appearances, except for that DC 1M crossover. At least Tangent Superman has been appearing on and off. He's a perfect fight for X-Man Shaman nate.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
the thread isn't about that. now, if you have something to add, then do. Or leave. that simple. I say team 1 wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I say team 1 wins.

why? MU has Shaman Nate and Xavier. Team 1 can win, but I think it'll be hard as hell. So the list was meant to be somewhat equal.

Why doesn't team 1 get Cassandra Nova?

She took out Xavier in cerebra. That's Xavier's telepathy times 11.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Why doesn't team 1 get Cassandra Nova?

She took out Xavier in cerebra. That's Xavier's telepathy times 11.

i just listed some off the top of my head. she will be added, if you want.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
why? MU has Shaman Nate and Xavier. Team 1 can win, but I think it'll be hard as hell. So the list was meant to be somewhat equal. Because the dc team is stacked.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because the dc team is stacked.

that doesn't say anything. MU's are stacked as well.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
that doesn't say anything. MU's are stacked as well. I already gave my opinion. You stacked it in dc's favor and I agreed with mindset.

based on what?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
based on what? Your threads and a hunch.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your threads and a hunch.

Stop being DC biased for a second and let's look at the matchups.

Saturn Girl vs Xavier
Tangent Supes vs Shaman Nate
Mr. Sinister vs Gorilla Grodd
Exodus vs Manchester Black
Jean vs Esper Lass
Stryfe vs Hector Hammond
Captain Comet vs Cable
Martian Manhunter vs Moondragon
Emma vs Psimon
Cassandra Nova vs Scanner

Looks pretty even to me. if you think otherwise, please explain.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Stop being DC biased for a second and let's look at the matchups.

Saturn Girl vs Xavier
Tangent Supes vs Shaman Nate
Mr. Sinister vs Gorilla Grodd
Exodus vs Manchester Black
Jean vs Esper Lass
Stryfe vs Hector Hammond
Captain Comet vs Cable
Martian Manhunter vs Moondragon
Emma vs Psimon
Cassandra Nova vs Scanner

Looks pretty even to me. if you think otherwise, please explain. You think xavier could beat Saturn Girl? Are you serious? The guy couldn't even beat Moondragon.

skill wise, xavier is a bit better, but SG has more raw power. it's a toss up, IMO.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
skill wise, xavier is a bit better, but SG has more raw power. it's a toss up, IMO. So Sgirl matched up well with Moondragon, right?

what are MD highest feats WITHOUT the mind gem?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
what are MD highest feats WITHOUT the mind gem? She lost to Thanos in a mindwar so according to your logic Thanos could be on this list.

i'm not asking what battles she lost. what are her feats?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
i'm not asking what battles she lost. what are her feats? Look up her respect thread. She stalemated Xavier and even beat him once i fI recall correctly and lost to Thanos.

point me to the direction, because i don't see one.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
i'm not asking what battles she lost. what are her feats?

She was skilled enough to do a mental barrer on her and her pals, protecting them from Xavier.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
point me to the direction, because i don't see one. You'd have to find it yourself.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
what are MD highest feats WITHOUT the mind gem?


able to enslave a whole planet with her telepathy

Originally posted by Warlord
able to enslave a whole planet with her telepathy

Without the Mind Gem and influence from the Dragon of the Moon?

Originally posted by Warlord
able to enslave a whole planet with her telepathy

Thanks. She's definitely a powerhouse. I say she'd kick Jonzz ass.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Without the Mind Gem and influence from the Dragon of the Moon?

yeah. it's in avengers vol. one.
I can find the issue if u want

Originally posted by Warlord
yeah. it's in avengers vol. one.
I can find the issue if u want

Cool. I don't see any MD respect threads in this site.

there isn't any....there should be though.....

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Stop being DC biased for a second and let's look at the matchups.

Saturn Girl vs Xavier
Tangent Supes vs Shaman Nate
Mr. Sinister vs Gorilla Grodd
Exodus vs Manchester Black
Jean vs Esper Lass
Stryfe vs Hector Hammond
Captain Comet vs Cable
Martian Manhunter vs Moondragon
Emma vs Psimon
Cassandra Nova vs Scanner

Looks pretty even to me. if you think otherwise, please explain.

I don't think Stryfe has the feats to match with Hector Hammond.

And I'm willing to say Manchester Black is quite above Exodus.

While Sinister should be around Grodds level, I don't think he as actual feats to back it up.

I have no clue who Scanner is.

Current Cable will get pwned.

Originally posted by Warlord
yeah. it's in avengers vol. one.
I can find the issue if u want

Really? Without the Dragon of the Moons influence?

avengers vol 1 issue 220

no dragon of the moon influence was mentioned

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I don't think Stryfe has the feats to match with Hector Hammond.

And I'm willing to say Manchester Black is quite above Exodus.

While Sinister should be around Grodds level, I don't think he as actual feats to back it up.

I have no clue who Scanner is.

Current Cable will get pwned.

Scanner is an alien who was on the team, Vanguard. Vanguard was shown in Teen Titans. Her telepathy can reach far into space.

What other mutants am i missing for MU. I know I'm missing some.

Also, why do you think MB is higher than Exodus?

Originally posted by Warlord
avengers vol 1 issue 220

no dragon of the moon influence was mentioned

I'll check it out, I'm a bit sketchy on that, cause I seem to remember that being the reason why current Moondragon is such a pushover.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Scanner is an alien who was on the team, Vanguard. Vanguard was shown in Teen Titans. Her telepathy can reach far into space.

What other mutants am i missing for MU. I know I'm missing some.

Also, why do you think MB is higher than Exodus?

Exodus is a character that doesn't appear much his telepathy feats amount him shindering Xavier, beating Jean twice and Thena and stalemating Emma and Sersi. The feats I've seen from Black are just on a larger scale.

Can Scanner do anything else? Cause Nova trashed Xavier and Jean (Manifesting her Phoenix Potential).

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I'll check it out, I'm a bit sketchy on that, cause I seem to remember that being the reason why current Moondragon is such a pushover.



well many characters are not written the way they were in the 80's.

For example wonderman. from a total beast to a first class jobber

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I'll check it out, I'm a bit sketchy on that, cause I seem to remember that being the reason why current Moondragon is such a pushover.



Exodus is a character that doesn't appear much his telepathy feats amount him shindering Xavier, beating Jean twice and Thena and stalemating Emma and Sersi. The feats I've seen from Black are just on a larger scale.

Can Scanner do anything else? Cause Nova trashed Xavier and Jean (Manifesting her Phoenix Potential). '

I'll see if I can find more.

BTW, what feats impress you with Manchester and Hector Hammond? You can use any era.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
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I'll see if I can find more.

BTW, what feats impress you with Manchester and Hector Hammond? You can use any era.

Well mostly PC HH and Black has massive mind control feats.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Well mostly PC HH and Black has massive mind control feats.

have they done anything like mind control a planet? I know HH can create actual beings from his mind, which is impressive.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak


And I'm willing to say Manchester Black is quite above Exodus.

What makes you say that?

Originally posted by Mindset
What makes you say that?

His mouth.