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Norman is going to be sorry he messed with Thor & Asgard.
Heck, he can't even trust Loki to back him up.

looks good

At last an Avengers reunion as it should be. No more B rated teams. Just the original Avengers!

P.S. bring Wanda back too

I must admit, I don't understand Marvel when they do this.

"We'll just spoil our own events in the synopsis for an upcoming one.".

Smart, Marvel.

-AC

I hope this is the last event from Bendis he needs to give it a rest.

Wait, I thought Asgard had relocated to Latveria. So Osborn would have to go to war with Doom

That's the point I'd imagine.

Osborn is eventually going to go off the deep end and do something both massively epic and massively stupid.

Thor's been (Last I heard, maybe Rage or Kris can correct me here) out of favour in Asgard for a while. What better way for him to redeem himself? I don't know quite if Loki will get what's coming to him, but we'll see.

It looks like they're actually going the right way with this. They've had a rather awesome series of massive events that intertwine (Civil War, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign), and they're going to end it with a massive war in the most epic stage possible.

I don't mind paying the money to follow this if it delivers. If this is an anti-climax, Marvel will be receiving significant amounts of my money until they can prove they know how to start handling their titles.

Especially if they're gonna raise the prices.

I will say, though, that after Siege they definitely just need to leave the events alone until Winter 2010 at least.

-AC

Steve is back as Cap....

http://comics.ign.com/articles/103/1036162p1.html

Originally posted by The Nuul
Steve is back as Cap....

http://comics.ign.com/articles/103/1036162p1.html

See the cover of the issue, where Taskmaster seems to be challenging (an angry looking )Thor? DUDE - JUST RUN!

I knew Asgard has been looking like Minas Tirith since it's return for a reason. Now we can see a real Return Of The King type siege...
And maybe, its finally time...for Thor vs. Sentry.bangin

Originally posted by roughrider
See the cover of the issue, where Taskmaster seems to be challenging (an angry looking )Thor? DUDE - JUST RUN!

I knew Asgard has been looking like Minas Tirith since it's return for a reason. Now we can see a real Return Of The King type siege...
And maybe, its finally time...for Thor vs. Sentry.bangin

It's because Tasky is hardcore xD


I hope this event shows Ares actually having some form of loyalty or integrity, I mean, he's proven with his interactions with Fury that he has no loyalties to Osborn, and they could have quite a good thing with the whole, Immortals Vs Mortals, where Ares would potentially change sides to help Asgard.

I noticed this on CBR a couple of days ago.

Why the hell are they telling us now? This could have been a huge reveal in the comics instead

It's not only Dark Avengers that are invading Asgard,the Thunderbolts, Avengers:Initiative and maybe Dark X-Men. Could also we see the return of the All-Father himself Odin? it's a very good possibility. Will we see Sentry, Venom cross the line against Thor's people?

this does look good, but i will this issue by issue

Originally posted by the Darkone
It's not only Dark Avengers that are invading Asgard,the Thunderbolts, Avengers:Initiative and maybe Dark X-Men. Could also we see the return of the All-Father himself Odin? it's a very good possibility. Will we see Sentry, Venom cross the line against Thor's people?

There is no chance of Odin returning

**** Steve Rogers, give Bucky a shot!

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
**** Steve Rogers, give Bucky a shot! I love Bucky but he's not a leader. Not like Steve was.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
**** Steve Rogers, give Bucky a shot!

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I must admit, I don't understand Marvel when they do this.

"We'll just spoil our own events in the synopsis for an upcoming one.".

Smart, Marvel.

-AC

Not to mention the interviews with the various writers in which the entire plot is virtually outlined.

Does this look like promo art for Siege?

http://geektyrant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/thor_and_ironman_by_nebezial.jpg

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Wait, I thought Asgard had relocated to Latveria. So Osborn would have to go to war with Doom

No buddy...coming in Thor #604...Thor goes to war with Doom in Latveria... to wrestle Asgard from his Hands and this is where the Siege begins i believe. "Asgard with Thor is too powerful that it has to fall" Osborn idea.

This is Thor#605 cover

And than in Thor#606 Doom goes Destroyer...and the real battle starts...

Dark reign ends in Asgard..

Jesus - Doom gets into the Destroyer armour?

This is gonna hurt, Thor.

...and you guys wonder why you aren't satisfied by comics nowadays.

You know everything before you read the shit.

Try...avoiding spoilers for once. Try actually being surprised by the plot of your comics.

I swear there needs to be a rule on this forum where all synopses should be put under spoiler tags. I never know who's gonna post one, where and for what. It's f*cking annoying.

If you wanna go read them, do so. Don't ruin it for everyone else.

-AC

This sounds really good. It's so hard not to have this leaked in some way online checking various sites all the time.

I can't wait for Thor and Sentry to go at it.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
...and you guys wonder why you aren't satisfied by comics nowadays.

You know everything before you read the shit.

Try...avoiding spoilers for once. Try actually being surprised by the plot of your comics.

I swear there needs to be a rule on this forum where all synopses should be put under spoiler tags. I never know who's gonna post one, where and for what. It's f*cking annoying.

If you wanna go read them, do so. Don't ruin it for everyone else.

-AC

Welcome to the internet age. Where you can read whole sections of history on your comic characters on Wikipedia - and they are updated weekly - instead of spending money on the issues.
You want to be surprised these days, stay away from internet forums like these and just buy the issues.

For ****'s sake, no AC has convinced me.

That shit completely ruined the next 2 Thor comics for me. Knowing that Doom went into the Destroyer is big. It's very big. Keep that shit spoiled, this is probably the comic I care most about next to runaways. Now it's ****ing ruined until 2010.

Originally posted by roughrider
Welcome to the internet age. Where you can read whole sections of history on your comic characters on Wikipedia - and they are updated weekly - instead of spending money on the issues.
You want to be surprised these days, stay away from internet forums like these and just buy the issues.

Yeah, or type "" before and after spoilers.

It's really not like I'm asking you to cure cancer. I'm asking you to be considerate.

I come here to discuss comics I've read and love, not shit that won't be out until next year.

I steer clear of Marvel sites BECAUSE of this, and if we assume that everyone here knows where to find the spoilers if they desire, how about we (You) either stop posting them or keep them under spoiler cuts?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
...and you guys wonder why you aren't satisfied by comics nowadays.

You know everything before you read the shit.

Try...avoiding spoilers for once. Try actually being surprised by the plot of your comics.

I swear there needs to be a rule on this forum where all synopses should be put under spoiler tags.

-AC

I can agree with that.

AC is a faghag. Amirite?

-Rage

Spoilers what the hell... come on most of the time u can tell the story with the pics... i deduced them. Its simple.

I must admit this is the story arc I am waiting for with more excitment than enything marvel has done the last 6-5 years.

although AC is right. They shouldn't reveal that much for us

Originally posted by joesha28
Spoilers what the hell... come on most of the time u can tell the story with the pics... i deduced them. Its simple.

Then deduce them yourself.

This constant posting of revealing synopses, covers and spoilers is ruining the ability to so much as browse threads nowadays. There should be no need to create threads solely to post them.

We're all resourceful. If we want to know where to find spoilers, synopses or cover art, I'm sure we can find our way to Marvel.Com, you know? Those who wanna see that stuff can go see it.

It doesn't need to be posted here.

-AC

Than one shld not ask stupid questions...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
AC is a faghag. Amirite?

-Rage a whinging one at that.

Originally posted by The Nuul
I can agree with that.


Do I care? nope.

Originally posted by Nihilist
a whinging one at that.




Titties is a whiner.

Originally posted by Nihilist
a whinging one at that.

Still bitter, huh?

You'll get over it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Still bitter, huh?

You'll get over it.

-AC Bitter, about what?

You'll get over it.

On topic, seeing as everyone is trying to act like I'm killing more buzz than a murderous beekeeper; how about you list the reasons your forum experience will be dampened by not spoiling things and posting previews?

If you want to post and say "So and so preview art/covers/synopsis is up on Marvel.Com.", then provide a link, fine. Give us the choice to avoid it, though.

For example, Siege thread such as this. Obviously there are people who want to discuss via speculation about what awaits, as I did. However, I entered this thread and got most of the year's remaining comics ruined for me.

Think before you act.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You'll get over it.

-AC

So you have nothing then.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You'll get over it.

On topic, seeing as everyone is trying to act like I'm killing more buzz than a murderous beekeeper; how about you list the reasons your forum experience will be dampened by not spoiling things and posting previews?

If you want to post and say "So and so preview art/covers/synopsis is up on Marvel.Com.", then provide a link, fine. Give us the choice to avoid it, though.

For example, Siege thread such as this. Obviously there are people who want to discuss via speculation about what awaits, as I did. However, I entered this thread and got most of the year's remaining comics ruined for me.

Think before you act.

-AC


Want some cheese with that whine?

Originally posted by Nihilist
So you have nothing then.

No, that's you and Nuul apparantly.

I only hope my suggestion to the mods is taken into account.

-AC

Stop bitching. These threads always have spoilers.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Stop bitching. These threads always have spoilers.
His bitching is actually entertaining, don't you guys agree?

We all want something after all

Originally posted by King Kandy
Stop bitching. These threads always have spoilers.

Welcome to the thread, you'll notice my point already covers your reply.

Yes, there are spoilers.

No, there shouldn't be unless they're covered (Or at all, logically).

Now, if you're still confused I do a Crayola and/or M.S. Paint depiction service for 5.99, or 6.99 with me explaining the drawing to you.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Welcome to the thread, you'll notice my point already covers your reply.

Yes, there are spoilers.

No, there shouldn't be unless they're covered (Or at all, logically).

Now, if you're still confused I do a Crayola and/or M.S. Paint depiction service for 5.99, or 6.99 with me explaining the drawing to you.

-AC
No the point is that, if you were oh so against ever seeing spoilers, you should not have come to this thread. EVERY thread of this kind has spoilers. If you came here and somehow got surprised and had stuff spoiled, you have nobody to blame but yourself... the implicit bargain you strike when clicking on a discussion thread in this forum, is that there will be spoilers in exchange for discussion of them.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No the point is that, if you were oh so against ever seeing spoilers, you should not have come to this thread. EVERY thread of this kind has spoilers. If you came here and somehow got surprised and had stuff spoiled, you have nobody to blame but yourself... the implicit bargain you strike when clicking on a discussion thread in this forum, is that there will be spoilers in exchange for discussion of them.

"For example, Siege thread such as this. Obviously there are people who want to discuss via speculation about what awaits, as I did. However, I entered this thread and got most of the year's remaining comics ruined for me.

Think before you act.".

Reading posts: cool kids do it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"For example, Siege thread such as this. Obviously there are people who want to discuss via speculation about what awaits, as I did. However, I entered this thread and got most of the year's remaining comics ruined for me.

Think before you act.".

Reading posts: cool kids do it.

-AC

"Think before you act."

That would have been good advice for YOU, since obviously you have forgotten that any thread is liable to contain spoilers. Either you did not know there would be spoilers, in which case you do not know how this forum works, or you knew there were spoilers and clicked anyway, in which case you have nobody but yourself to blame if the comics got spoiled for you.

Originally posted by King Kandy
"Think before you act."

That would have been good advice for YOU, since obviously you have forgotten that any thread is liable to contain spoilers. Either you did not know there would be spoilers, in which case you do not know how this forum works, or you knew there were spoilers and clicked anyway, in which case you have nobody but yourself to blame if the comics got spoiled for you.

I've been on this forum since 2004, I know how it works.

Do I really have to explain it a third time?

This isn't a spoiler forum, this is a discussion forum. Some people come here to discuss existing comics an speculate on upcoming events. Not have the current ones ruined.

Both kinds of fan exist here, so the ones that want things spoiled, or deliver spoilers, should be considerate enough for the ones who don't.

At the very least, I'm not telling you to stop spoiling them. I'm simply trying to protect our kind of fan, not remove yours.

-AC

Maybe they should start baning people if they spoil stuff for AC...Kandy you better stop before he bbitch slaps you..

You can put up spoilers all you want - people always read them anyway. They can't resist.

Nuul, you and your cheerleaders are whining about a legitimate complaint I have.

Glasses houses and all that.

Originally posted by roughrider
You can put up spoilers all you want - people always read them anyway. They can't resist.

Speak for yourself.

Then it truly IS their fault for reading. I don't read spoilers because I don't want it spoiled.

Why is this such trouble for you people?

You type this "" before and after the spoilers, and that's it. You post them, I can read the thread and discuss the comics without being spoiled regarding stuff I haven't read yet.

Is it that important that you post solicitations here when we all know for a fact that they're on a billion other sites designed for that sort of thing?

-AC

Originally posted by roughrider
You can put up spoilers all you want - people always read them anyway. They can't resist.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nuul, you and your cheerleaders are whining about a legitimate complaint I have.

Glasses houses and all that.



Speak for yourself.

Then it truly IS their fault for reading. I don't read spoilers because I don't want it spoiled.

Why is this such trouble for you people?

You type this "" before and after the spoilers, and that's it. You post them, I can read the thread and discuss the comics without being spoiled regarding stuff I haven't read yet.

Is it that important that you post solicitations here when we all know for a fact that they're on a billion other sites designed for that sort of thing?

-AC

Just STFU and stop spamming the threads with your bitching.

PM the mods would be a better way to get you point across.

JMS' version of Asgard has probably be the weakest since their depiction by Jim Starlin. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Hopefully we will actually see Balder take an active part in combat. Which he hasn't done since...1983??

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
JMS' version of Asgard has probably be the weakest since their depiction by Jim Starlin. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Hopefully we will actually see Balder take an active part in combat. Which he hasn't done since...1983??

He stabbed up those Frost Giants and got arrested in one of the earliar issues from JMS...

Honestly AC has a point just cause some people come here to be spoiled doesn't mean that they all do and we should be considerate of them. If there are synopses and pics from another link we should try to post the url. and If there are going to be people posting actual spoilers use the freaking spoiler tags. thats why they are freaking here

Originally posted by The Nuul
Just STFU and stop spamming the threads with your bitching.

PM the mods would be a better way to get you point across.

Be quiet, tool.

I did that first, before I even commented here. Zip it, child.

-AC

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Honestly AC has a point just cause some people come here to be spoiled doesn't mean that they all do and we should be considerate of them. If there are synopses and pics from another link we should try to post the url. and If there are going to be people posting actual spoilers use the freaking spoiler tags. thats why they are freaking here



The use of spoiler tags means we all win. What's the big deal?

And on topic, is anyone else hopeful Spider-Man has some kind of role in Osborn's downfall? Seems to me these two characters have far too much history to just be ignored in the climax.

Originally posted by H. S. 6


The use of spoiler tags means we all win. What's the big deal?

And on topic, is anyone else hopeful Spider-Man has some kind of role in Osborn's downfall? Seems to me these two characters have far too much history to just be ignored in the climax.

Here's hoping Mephisto's spell comes undone. Havent really read a Spidey comic since then.

Read an interview where Bendis stated hes building up to a huge confrontation between ares and thor. I hope thats not it. If he thinks ares is a huge threat to thor, then I think I just lost all hope in this event

Originally posted by H. S. 6
And on topic, is anyone else hopeful Spider-Man has some kind of role in Osborn's downfall? Seems to me these two characters have far too much history to just be ignored in the climax.

Yeah Spidey, Bucky and Iron-man need to be major players in Osborn's downfall.

new mA.rvel C.omics I.nfo S.o A.void reading F.or A.ll you G.uys who like supriseshow bout you go look at porn for the story before it gets ruined when we all post a link

Oh what the hell!! Ok, one reason i think Siege also happens is because of what happens in current issue of Invincible Iron Man, Tony in his Mach 0 suit get crushed live on TV by Iron Patriot aka Norman Osborn, unable to finish the job cos he was on live. Tony was brought to hospital, where Norman tells Tony's doc to pull the plug. But tony's doc said tat Tony's new doc is none other than Doc Donald Blake. Where Blake is Thor is...the the assassination of Tony gets for difficult with Marvel's Mightiest around. That wld boil Norman for the Siege.

This might be good, after the Avengers were scattered into small teams which were nothing compared to what the EMH used to be, now they will gather up for a hell of a fight.Osborn must be nuts if he believes he can go to war with Asgard and win, when Thor will go all out he'll make him regret the day he entered Asgard ground.

If it was as much of a cakewalk as it appears, they'd not do it.

There's obviously something at play here to make it relatively interesting until good inevitably wins.

My biggest concern, besides the quality of the ending, is that they need to lay off the big events for a while after this. At the very least, they need to stop making every tie-in important, because it's not entirely fair.

I like the idea of a central series, a la Civil War and Secret Invasion. I'm glad Siege is going to be the same. I wouldn't say Dark Reign suffers for a lack it, though.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If it was as much of a cakewalk as it appears, they'd not do it.

There's obviously something at play here to make it relatively interesting until good inevitably wins.

My biggest concern, besides the quality of the ending, is that they need to lay off the big events for a while after this. At the very least, they need to stop making every tie-in important, because it's not entirely fair.

I like the idea of a central series, a la Civil War and Secret Invasion. I'm glad Siege is going to be the same. I wouldn't say Dark Reign suffers for a lack it, though.

-AC


I think it's just going to be a massive overblown, LOTR style fight with Asgardians left, right and centre. Osborn trying to assert his authority over Gods = epic fail for Norman.

Nothing wrong with an action packed story, just a little predictable.

EDIT: Isn't Coipel the main artist? At the very least it'll look gorgeous.

Heh, you know, although lots of peopel seem to be wanting a Spidey/Goblin fight (which would be good), personally I'd think it would be interesting if it went another way, with Spidey saving Norman from some of the other hero's.

I mean, we've had a fair amount of hero's trying to act un heroic and want to kill Norman, and I mean, Bendis has been trying to show Spiderman as a voice of morals/reason with the NA's.

Spidy saving Norman would also allow the hero's too see how extreme some things have become since Civil War broke out, so if Marvel are wanting to change stuff about the Registration Act etc, this would give the basis to do so...

Just some thoughts...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I've been on this forum since 2004, I know how it works.


-AC


Yeah that's a good point ... why have you been here so long. I've returned on various occasions since about 2006, however it amazes me that you've maintained the same Name. And why have u gone through such a transition. If remember correctly; u went thru a faze of not posting on the comic-book Zone. This occur-ed for a good couple of years; concentrating your posting mainly in the GDF, etc.
Infact if rember correctly the last time (Well time period ) u were posting regularly in this zone; D.C. was undergoing its the previous Infinite Crisis; that turned out to be not too infinite?

Not that u care, but does the name Whirly ring any bells a bell ? To clarify what i mean; I am not him however he used to be close friend (as close as an internet friend can be any way). From what I can remember you didn't get on ?

Originally posted by willRules
I think it's just going to be a massive overblown, LOTR style fight with Asgardians left, right and centre. Osborn trying to assert his authority over Gods = epic fail for Norman.

Nothing wrong with an action packed story, just a little predictable.

EDIT: Isn't Coipel the main artist? At the very least it'll look gorgeous.

I know this will throw a bit of a spanner in the status Quo works, however I don't really have a problem with Osborn asserting his authority over "God", when the "Gods" in question are the Asgardians.

Via a physical comparison, Norman isn't that much inferior to the mass majority of them, and when you consider his "Authority power", then most of the Asgardian couldn't even lift a comparative finger . In my Oppion its analogous to Rupert Murdok boasting to the Rock that he's more powerful. ... Well he is !!

Whirly is God.

http://www.comicvine.com/news/who-is-norman-osborns-secret-weapon-in-siege/139716/

I would be quite happy if it was Molecule Man tbh, b/c he is a threat level that would infatc scare Loki/Doom, due to the fact he's warped the multiverse with his power, rather than Sentry, who really wouldn't scare Doom/Loki that much...

Beyonder or MM would be nice to see again in action.

Molecule Man is a good shout, although I reckon its probably going to be Sentry, who turns out to actually be the Beyonder.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Molecule Man is a good shout, although I reckon its probably going to be Sentry, who turns out to actually be the Beyonder.

Thats what I am thinking...setup for MM vs Beyonder again..

Originally posted by The Nuul
Thats what I am thinking...setup for MM vs Beyonder again..

Boring ... Id rather have Thor beat, a Sentry whose re-discovering his Beyonder powers.

To be fair as long as Sentry is removed from the frame of things for a while, I do really care how he goes down.

Bendis is bullshit when it comes to doing re-search for his power levels. He probably has no-idea about Molecule Master fighting Beyonder previously, or the fact that the Beyonder should be lobotomized inside the Kylnn (By Thanos no-less). But I don't really care, as longs as we get some kind of Sentry Thor fight, i'll be happy.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Boring ... Id rather have Thor beat, a Sentry whose re-discovering his Beyonder powers.


That might still happen, I want to see it go down.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Boring ... Id rather have Thor beat, a Sentry whose re-discovering his Beyonder powers.

To be fair as long as Sentry is removed from the frame of things for a while, I do really care how he goes down.

Bendis is bullshit when it comes to doing re-search for his power levels. He probably has no-idea about Molecule Master fighting Beyonder previously, or the fact that the Beyonder should be lobotomized inside the Kylnn (By Thanos no-less). But I don't really care, as longs as we get some kind of Sentry Thor fight, i'll be happy.

Actually Beyonder shouldn't be in the Kylnn, as when they were destroyed the Maker mortal form was killed, meaning the Beyonder's spirit was free to manifest as an immortal again...

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Molecule Man is a good shout, although I reckon its probably going to be Sentry, who turns out to actually be the Beyonder.

Whatever happened to Beyonder being a mutated Inhuman, as shown in The Illuminati mini series?

Originally posted by roughrider
Whatever happened to Beyonder being a mutated Inhuman, as shown in The Illuminati mini series? I addressed that, but heck, all up rising/current Marvel writers are stumbling on each other...

Makes me want to read DC comics

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Bendis is bullshit when it comes to doing re-search for his power levels. He probably has no-idea about Molecule Master fighting Beyonder previously, or the fact that the Beyonder should be lobotomized inside the Kylnn (By Thanos no-less). But I don't really care, as longs as we get some kind of Sentry Thor fight, i'll be happy.

Fallen One did indeed confirm that the Beyonder was dead, killed by the annihilation wave.

I too want Sentry vs Thor.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Fallen One did indeed confirm that the Beyonder was dead, killed by the annihilation wave. Oh ya, there was that merge version of Beyonder...

3 Beyonders WTF?

1. Classic looking one

2. Mutant/Inhuman

3. Female version

Originally posted by vansonbee
Oh ya, there was that merge version of Beyonder...

3 Beyonders WTF?

1. Classic looking one

2. Mutant/Inhuman

3. Female version

Mutant/Inhuman is the classic beyonder.

He was just messing with the illuminati.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Mutant/Inhuman is the classic beyonder.

He was just messing with the illuminati. What your thoughts about female version that die & his involvement w/ Molecule man group? (2 part)

Originally posted by vansonbee
What your thoughts about female version that die & his involvement w/ Molecule man group? (2 part)

Starlin bullshit mostly.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Oh ya, there was that merge version of Beyonder...

3 Beyonders WTF?

1. Classic looking one

2. Mutant/Inhuman

3. Female version

Nah, it's the same version, but in different forms.

After he was retconed, Beyonder became Cosmos after finishing his evolution from energy into a fully fledged, stable cube being.

Did a bunch of stuff as Kosmos/Normal 'Male' form after MM ripped Beyonder out of Kosmos.

At some point, Beyonder/kosmos decided to manifest in a mortal form for an unknown reason, and became the Maker, but having the sentience of a cube being in a mortal shell drove her insane, she wiped out a Shi'ar colony and was imprisoned in the Kyln in one of the Cresh pods.

Then she got loose, was lobotomised by Thanos and trapped in a mortal shell. Then the Annihilation Wave broke through and tore the Kyln apart, which led to the death of the Maker shell.

From what makes sense, it would be after the Maker died that Beyonder appeared to the Illuminati and all that crazy stuff happened with him saying he was an Inhuman. At this point (and hopefully), it looks like he was just messing with the Illuminati, maybe due to the fact Beyonder/Kosmos was re-adjusting to being an immortal being again...

Siege Teaser Trailer

http://www.comicvine.com/news/marvels-siege-teaser-trailer/139714/

^ Let's hope this is going to be a concluding event

seems very promissing to me though

Originally posted by Kazenji
Siege Teaser Trailer

http://www.comicvine.com/news/marvels-siege-teaser-trailer/139714/

So it seems Bendis is connecting this with Secret War, Avengers Disassembled, Civil War, and Secret Invasion - a thread from where everything started to go wrong, to where everything will finally be right.

Originally posted by roughrider
So it seems Bendis is connecting this with Secret War, Avengers Disassembled, Civil War, and Secret Invasion - a thread from where everything started to go wrong, to where everything will finally be right.

I am sure some is going to cry about no spoilers on your post.

Originally posted by The Nuul
I am sure some is going to cry about no spoilers on your post.

It's only my speculation. I'm not reading any secret reports.

Originally posted by The Nuul
I am sure some is going to cry about no spoilers on your post.

That's not a spoiler, that's speculation.

Even to those that avoid all that, it's clear that Siege is the big finish toward good triumphing.

Either way, someone "crying" loud enough was obviously seen as a sensible enough point for a new rule to be added. So I wonder who's laughing.

-AC

My guess as to Osborne's secret weapon?

"KIMATO!"

I can see Marvel Man/ Mircale Man to replace sentry.

there wont be a MM vs sentry because IT WILL BE SENTRY VS THOR

Originally posted by outavodka
there wont be a MM vs sentry because IT WILL BE SENTRY VS THOR

Sentry feels honour bound to do what Norman asks. So just like he was called in against World War Hulk, this time it's the fight we've waited years for - the real golden avenger, Thor.

i thought it was ares vs thor?...as strange as that sounds

Originally posted by bbrem123
i thought it was ares vs thor?...as strange as that sounds
They already fought a couple of times.

Another Siege teaser picture

http://www.comicvine.com/news/marvel-siege-teaser-bucky-cap-vs-norman-osborn/139741/

Originally posted by Kazenji
Another Siege teaser picture

http://www.comicvine.com/news/marvel-siege-teaser-bucky-cap-vs-norman-osborn/139741/

Originally posted by Kazenji
Another Siege teaser picture

http://www.comicvine.com/news/marvel-siege-teaser-bucky-cap-vs-norman-osborn/139741/



Now that's a teaser image!!!!

I can see it now.

Bucky: You're finished.
Steve: Now calm down, son. Captain America doesn't kill.
Bucky: No, he just gets shot and leaves me to become the symbol in the darkest time heroes have seen, whilst also giving a nice twist on your boring ass job.
Steve: Now calm down, so...
Bucky: STOP CALLING EVERYONE SON. JESUS.
Osborn: You tired of him yet?
Bucky: Yeah.

*They both shoot him*

-AC

If Marvel has him pull that trigger it's the end of Bucky Cap and the return to status quo for Steve Rogers

....don't do it, Buck!

Theres some more of them Teaser pictures floating around

http://images.tfaw.com/tfaw2007/blog/siegeteaser1.jpg

http://images.tfaw.com/tfaw2007/blog/siegeteaser2.jpg

http://images.tfaw.com/tfaw2007/blog/siegeteaser3.jpg

http://images.tfaw.com/tfaw2007/blog/siegeteaser4.jpg

Here's a couple more....


http://www.comicvine.com/news/marvel-siege-teaser-the-fall-of-asgard/139751/

http://www.comicvine.com/news/more-marvel-siege-tease-iron-patriot-vs-thor/139729/

My wildly speculative and most likely wrong other guess?

Osborne collected the Infinity Gauntlet. Bendis made a big deal about the Infinity Gems being collected and owned by the Illuminati; we haven't seen anything come of that, and now, with all of these ramifications of the Illuminati's actions coming back into play (Marvel Boy, the Beyonder), and the Cabal set-up as the anti-Illuminati, I feel like there is a chance we'll be seeing it again.

The IG needs to come back together at some point again.

That could work.

How would he get them all, though?

We haven't seen him steal them from anyone. Unless that's to come.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
How would he get them all, though?

We haven't seen him steal them from anyone. Unless that's to come.

-AC

I could see it being revealed in like, the "The Cabal: Seige" one-shot.

The major problem is that Osborne specifically references a "who," when he reveals his secret weapon to the rest of the Cabal.

I'm thinking the "who" is either MM or more likely, the Void.....

......although I'd much prefer your Infinity Gauntlet theory to be true....

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091117-marvel-february-2010-solicitations.html

I think Sentry Is going to die.

Now I know these aren't irrefutable pieces of evidence, but ....

The Dark Avengers cover has the the Sentry symbol covered in blood.

The description refers to a eulogy, which is usually associated with a dead person.

Siege number two refers to an Avenger dieing.

Just a theory.

Maybe he tries to redeem himself from being such douche for the last four years, and then get killed while single handily taking on the Osborn's Dark Avengers; including his secret weapon; whom probably end up being Molecule Man.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091117-marvel-february-2010-solicitations.html

I think Sentry Is going to die.

Now I know these aren't irrefutable pieces of evidence, but ....

The Dark Avengers cover has the the Sentry symbol covered in blood.

The description refers to a eulogy, which is usually associated with a dead person.

Siege number two refers to an Avenger dieing.

Just a theory.

Maybe he tries to redeem himself from being such douche for the last four years, and then get killed while single handily taking on the Osborn's Dark Avengers; including his secret weapon; whom probably end up being Molecule Man.

i dont kno about that tho...he has died quite a few times already how would he die for good anyways?...maybe he kills someone?

Marvel can't kill Sentry off, so the big guns like Molecule Man & the others are brought in....
Originally posted by bbrem123
i dont kno about that tho...he has died quite a few times already how would he die for good anyways?...maybe he kills someone?
For sure, its not Draken, Bullseye, and Mrs. Marvel.

These 3 seem more expendable, what you guys think?

1. Captain Marvel

2. Venom

3. Sentry


Sentry might fit in Marvel better, if he was remove from Earth and have his story in space w/ the other cosmic characters. Who knows, kill off couple villains & destroy countless made up planets *cough* Planet Skaar

Avengers dying is nothing new, I mean, since Annihilation Conquest at least 4 avengers have died just looking at Marvel Cosmics.

Originally posted by Bentley
Avengers dying is nothing new, I mean, since Annihilation Conquest at least 4 avengers have died just looking at Marvel Cosmics. Do you remember HOTU arc? I thought Thanos recreate the universe, so nobody can come back alive anymore

sigh*

This is will be a hell of a series... Thor will have lots of battles in his hands.

Thor vs Dark Avengers
Thor vs Mighty Avengers
Thor vs Taskmaster,Constrictor and Diamondback...

Just to name a few...

Originally posted by vansonbee
Do you remember HOTU arc? I thought Thanos recreate the universe, so nobody can come back alive anymore

sigh*

Yeah, thank god no one outside of people who post on forums read that.

....Because it wasn't very good.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Yeah, thank god no one outside of people who post on forums read that.

....Because it wasn't very good.

L.M.F.A.O



I haven't read anything that sarcastic and funny for a while.

Fingers still crossed that the outcome of SIEGE will be Steve Rogers: Agent/Director of SHIELD.

I've been saying that for ages.

Bucky should stay as Cap, Steve or Maria Hill should take over S.H.I.E.L.D. or at least have major roles.

I'd vote for Maria Hill. I think she's one of the best, most believable and relevant female characters in Marvel history.

She needs to be in more series'.

-AC

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
L.M.F.A.O



I haven't read anything that sarcastic and funny for a while.

My pleasure, CD.

Drunken stating of points that need to be made always works out well for me.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?...&disp=table

Siege #1 preview.

Volstagg is awesome

All I know is this: anyone criticising Bendis' ability to create tension with dialogue and follow it up with action needs to read Siege: The Cabal.

Genuinely the most exciting thing I've read in a long time.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
All I know is this: anyone criticising Bendis' ability to create tension with dialogue and follow it up with action needs to read Siege: The Cabal.

Genuinely the most exciting thing I've read in a long time.

-AC
What this guy said.

As soon as I saw Osborn talking to someone, I thought it was Loki. Then they REFERRED to Loki, so I'm wondering. Then you see him staring at the Green Goblin mask.

That's just the opening pages.

When The Cabal met and Dr. Doom started getting into shit with Osborn, I didn't actually know who needed to shut their mouth more. I always think Doom will own a *****, but it finally hit me that Bendis really has crafted Osborn into a truly dangerous man after that scene. Don't you agree?

On top of that, the ending was just genius, Loki's proposition to Osborn was just...so sinister. I totally see what you meant when you said he writes a mean Loki, Kris.

Siege is actually looking to be an event that lives up to the hype. It's either going to be madly epic if they do it as close to perfect as they can, or it'll be a failure beyond comprehension.

Judging by this one-shot I'm inclined to think the former.

-AC

what completely blew me away was that Osborn's ace in the hole WASNT the Sentry... I repeat WASNT the Sentry..as was seen in the very begining when the cabal was just formed in the Emma and Namor days and after he gathered everyone he intro'd the shadowed figure in the doorway..talk about misdirection...awesome...awesome misdirection. the only other person in MU who lives on earth who can scare the living dogshit out of everyone is Molecule Man....i wonder?

No i know MM is powerful as nuts but not the type tat scares Doom.

Originally posted by manjaro
what completely blew me away was that Osborn's ace in the hole WASNT the Sentry... I repeat WASNT the Sentry..as was seen in the very begining when the cabal was just formed in the Emma and Namor days and after he gathered everyone he intro'd the shadowed figure in the doorway..talk about misdirection...awesome...awesome misdirection. the only other person in MU who lives on earth who can scare the living dogshit out of everyone is Molecule Man....i wonder?
It could still be The Sentry.

He more or less said it in the comic, if I'm not mistake.

"Next time I will not be so forgiving on you, or your SON.".

Clearly it's some kind of twisted version of Harry Osborn.

-AC

or the kid he had with Harry's Girlfriend artificially aged or something...the reason i made that assessment was the fact that A. sentry was all bewildered and shit when everything was going down, and B. the opening panels showed Asgard aloft in OK Rather than Latveria, so since MM was expressing a great fear of Reed of all ppl old ozzy might have been able to manipulate his weak mind like he did Sentry and offered to protect him from reed's big bad inventions in return for being his hatchet man

You do realise you probably just made my use of spoiler tags irrelevant by saying that, right?

It's not that hard, people.

-AC

Have'nt picked up Siege: The Cabel but going by some of the reviews Bendis has finally got something right.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You do realise you probably just made my use of spoiler tags irrelevant by saying that, right?

It's not that hard, people.

-AC

sorry dude..but i dont do spoilers..i simply refuse.too much work for nothing really, cuz 99.99% of everyone is going to highlight and read anyway. i dont see it as big deal. spoilers have never made me disinterested in comics, if anything it heightens my anticipation and makes me want to see it for myself even more. but i know ur sensitive about it so i'll try better next time, but in the interim methinks life is too short to be giving urself a headache over it

Originally posted by manjaro
sorry dude..but i dont do spoilers..i simply refuse.too much work for nothing really, cuz 99.99% of everyone is going to highlight and read anyway. i dont see it as big deal. spoilers have never made me disinterested in comics, if anything it heightens my anticipation and makes me want to see it for myself even more. but i know ur sensitive about it so i'll try better next time, but in the interim methinks life is too short to be giving urself a headache over it
's a rule now.

I guess we have to try and be considerate towards other. Either or we'll have to hear someones constant bitching and moaning about it. No matter how insignificant it maight be.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I guess we have to try and be considerate towards other. Either or we'll have to hear someones constant bitching and moaning about it. No matter how insignificant it maight be.

Someones feelings might get hurt, thats why.....

This is why we need to start using Spoilers.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Someones feelings might get hurt, thats why.....

Men have those?

well count me the hell out...this is KMC not Obama's socialist, communist, fascist, Stalinesque, nazi, pull-the-plug-on-granma death Panels..next thing you know we're gonna have to sign every post with "sig heil" cuz someone's gonna be really sore if we dont...how about grow the hell up...its just comics and its not that serious

PS. i dont think that Obama is a socialist, communist, fascist, Stalinesque, nazi, pull-the-plug-on-granma death Panelist.

Hey Nuul,

How about you PM me if you've got beef. Don't sit there hiding behind having me on ignore, child.

Originally posted by manjaro
well count me the hell out...this is KMC not Obama's socialist, communist, fascist, Stalinesque, nazi, pull-the-plug-on-granma death Panels..next thing you know we're gonna have to sign every post with "sig heil" cuz someone's gonna be really sore if we dont...how about grow the hell up...its just comics and its not that serious

PS. i dont think that Obama is a socialist, communist, fascist, Stalinesque, nazi, pull-the-plug-on-granma death Panelist.

Stop being silly.

I don't want them ruined, why is that such an unreasonable request? That's what I don't understand. It's absolutely no effort at all to type a spoiler tag and then close it when you're done.

How about YOU grow the Hell up. You're right; it's no big deal, so use spoiler tags. It's not hard.

Everyone loves to complain about my "bitching", but like I said, someone listened because it's a rule now. The next time I see spoilers from you, someone refusing to use tags, I'm reporting it. I've asked you to use them, as per the rules, and you're ignoring it.

Some people here still adopt the hobby of going to buy their comics and not wanting to know what happens for sure until reading it. Steal all the comics online that you want, but that's your own choice.

-AC

Why is there already a What If? issue out - about the upcoming Thor-Sentry rumble - ahead of the real fight itself?

Originally posted by roughrider
Why is there already a What If? issue out - about the upcoming Thor-Sentry rumble - ahead of the real fight itself?

it's a secret invasion what if, afaik, just really bad timing...

The What If fight at least excludes the theory that Sentry is the Beyonder since he has no counterparts throughout the Multiverse, AFAIK.

Unless the writers are just lazy.

When the release on "What If" SI? Is it cross line w/ Siege titles?