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Gladiator is much more versatile than Herc.

Herc might be able to win a strictly H2H fight but Glads has many more abilities that give him the win in a normal fight

Glads will beat the sht outta Herc. This is no contest. He's far stronger when confident, faster, has vast array of powers, and just as skilled.

Herc has absolutely no advantages here, except the mace. But the mace is not mjolnir.

hercules is stronger then gladiator in a straight up fight he will destroy gladiator

Originally posted by Spectrumenian
hercules is stronger then gladiator in a straight up fight he will destroy gladiator

A confident Gladiator is far stronger than Hercules. Do you know Glads feats? Glad also has the speed and durability advantage. He also can fly, Herc can't. He also got heat vision, freeze breath, etc.

Herc has no advantages to even make this a fight.

gladiator got beat up by rogue and gambit nuff said

Herc got beat by the masters of evil

Gladiator every single time with ease. Herc has no chance and should not even be matched up against glads without ability boosts.

Glads beats the shit outta Herc.

Originally posted by h1a8
A confident Gladiator is far stronger than Hercules. Comics say otherwise. Herc is strong enough to hurt Gladz even if he's full confident.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Comics say otherwise. Herc is strong enough to hurt Gladz even if he's full confident. What comics?? How is herc going to hurt glads when this fight ends in seconds? I am very interested in your answer about the superman vs herc thread.

How many times has Gladz beaten high level bricks in seconds? Oh thats right never.

Originally posted by iceman24567
How many times has Gladz beaten high level bricks in seconds? Oh thats right never. PIS?

More like CIS.

Originally posted by iceman24567
How many times has Gladz beaten high level bricks in seconds? Oh thats right never. Who would buy a comicbook with only one page???..... where supes, glads or king hyperion blitzs and takes someone head off in a second.... Oh... no one.

Like i said it's CIS just like how Thor slugs it out Gladz does the same it's what they do.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Like i said it's CIS just like how Thor slugs it out Gladz does the same it's what they do. True... but we are not talking about a comicbook battle..... Its herc vs glads and both will try to end it a soon as possible here.. Glads can end it in seconds... herc cannot.

I agree 100%

Originally posted by iceman24567
Comics say otherwise. Herc is strong enough to hurt Gladz even if he's full confident.

Iceman you are usually right. But this time you're not.
I didn't say Herc couldn't hurt Glads. I'm saying that when very confident Glads has shown greater strength than Herc ever has and is thus stronger.

As far who will win is easy. Very confident Glads is better in every way except skill (they are about equal).

Glads also have extra powers that Herc don't.
Flight, Energy Projection, and speed.


This is a non fight.

No you said FAR stronger which is ridiculous consider Herc is one of the strongest Avengers ever. So i don't see how i could be wrong

Originally posted by iceman24567
No you said FAR stronger which is ridiculous consider Herc is one of the strongest Avengers ever. So i don't see how i could be wrong

Actually I consider them near equals on average. I only meant that Glads is far stronger when at full confidence

Unless Gladiator takes this H2H, he can win via numerous long ranged attacks, or battlefield destruction. Eliminating the battlefield is within Gladiators power set.

Glads wins the majority here.

Herc, the prince of power wins the majority, even if he is just a brick.

^HOW?

What advantages does he have over Glads in this fight?

Glads Punches his ass into the next solar system!

Hunkules grabs his cape and kicks him in the balls.

Gladiator has the advantage in speed and overall diversity of powers. Hercules is slightly stronger, more experienced, a better fighter and has more stamina. If the battle is man-to-man close combat Herc wins based on his advantages. Gladiator could win the battle using long range attacks, but why would Gladiator stay out of Herc's reach unless he lacked confidence in which case he'd be far from his usual nigh-invincible self and Herc would take him out by hurling any number and variety of objects at him until he went down.

Originally posted by PowerHerc
Gladiator has the advantage in speed and overall diversity of powers. Hercules is slightly stronger, more experienced, a better fighter and has more stamina. If the battle is man-to-man close combat Herc wins based on his advantages. Gladiator could win the battle using long range attacks, but why would Gladiator stay out of Herc's reach unless he lacked confidence in which case he'd be far from his usual nigh-invincible self and Herc would take him out by hurling any number and variety of objects at him until he went down.

I like this.

I say Hercules.

And he will nuts kicking that purple mohawk!

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I say Hercules.

And he will nuts kicking that purple mohawk!

I like this too!

BUMP.

How do you guys view this match up now? IMHO Glads should dominate Hercules since this is an all out battle using whatever powers they have and not a straight up brawl.

Originally posted by zopzop
BUMP.

How do you guys view this match up now? IMHO Glads should dominate Hercules since this is an all out battle using whatever powers they have and not a straight up brawl.
IF he uses his speed. But that's not in character for him. Herc should win a majority.

Originally posted by abhilegend
IF he uses his speed. But that's not in character for him. Herc should win a majority.
Heat vision (powerful enough to punch a hole in Hulk's chest)? Freeze Breath (strong enough to hold Thor and Wonderman for a few)? None of that matters?

Gladiator has used speed in every last one of his showings.

Originally posted by zopzop
Heat vision (powerful enough to punch a hole in Hulk's chest)? Freeze Breath (strong enough to hold Thor and Wonderman for a few)? None of that matters?
Hulk's durability was weakened at that time, even Simon broke out of his freeze breath. Its not like Herc hasn't fought those kinds of enemies before like Adam Warlock and stuff.

Gladiator should be the winner here in all seriousness, his record sucks against top tiers though. The same Bannerless hulk who pushed Kallark's shit in, Herc fought him at half his strength and put up a far better fight. He got the better of a Ares controlled Masterson Thor taking nearly a dozen hammer shots without going down and then overpowered him. Herc is a beast when he is motivated.

Gladiator should win, imo, but in a comic I could see Hercules being written to go over him, so either way...

Glads with ease. Hercules would be his plaything for amusement.

Gladiator with the edge.

Originally posted by h1a8
Glads with ease. Hercules would be his plaything for amusement.
Call me crazy but this is exactly how I see a PISless/CISless fight between the two of them going down.

Originally posted by zopzop
Call me crazy but this is exactly how I see a PISless/CISless fight between the two of them going down.
Too bad, its not a PISless/CISless match. Now compare Herc's performances against Thor/Hulk.

Gladiator vs Masterson Thor.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator01445.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator05.jpg

Hercules vs Masterson Thor.

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http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304667/Avengers349_14a.jpg.html
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See how Hercules overpowers Masterson in a contest of strength and then recovers before him after that amped lightning after taking more hammer shots than Gladiator?

Bannerless Hulk vs Hercules at half strength.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsHercules04HulkHerculesUnleashed1.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsHercules11.jpg

Bannerless Hulk vs Gladiator.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator01Annual1997.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator06.jpg

Heh, Hercules performed better than Gladiator at half strength.

Capes are definite no when fighting Hercules.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Misc%20Respect/Herc-vsSentry.jpg

I don't think Glads would want to get close to Herc.Hercules is the dirtiest player in the game after all

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/Enteithegreat/Misc%20Respect/Herc-vsSentry3.jpg
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Too bad, its not a PISless/CISless match. Now compare Herc's performances against Thor/Hulk.

Gladiator vs Masterson Thor.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator01445.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator02.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator05.jpg

Hercules vs Masterson Thor.

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http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16304670/Avengers349_16b.jpg.html

See how Hercules overpowers Masterson in a contest of strength and then recovers before him after that amped lightning after taking more hammer shots than Gladiator?

Bannerless Hulk vs Hercules at half strength.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsHercules04HulkHerculesUnleashed1.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsHercules11.jpg

Bannerless Hulk vs Gladiator.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator01Annual1997.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsGladiator02.jpg
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Heh, Hercules performed better than Gladiator at half strength.
Context Abhi, C O N T E X T.

Regarding the Masterson/Gladiator fight. Gladiator just finished humiliating Wonder Man then had Masterson Thor dead to rights but just stood there doing nothing while MT set up a sucker attack using Living Lightening.

Regarding the Ares-Thor/Hercules fight, it was a contest Ares was having with his step mother in order to see who could cause Hercules more pain. Ares' plan was to enrage Hercules enough that he would wind up killing his best friend. He didn't want Hercules dead, he wanted him to kill Eric.

The Gladiator/Hulk fight was filled with just as much PIS as the Firelord/Spiderman fight.

Originally posted by zopzop
Context Abhi, C O N T E X T.

Regarding the Masterson/Gladiator fight. Gladiator just finished humiliating Wonder Man then had Masterson Thor dead to rights but just stood there doing nothing while MT set up a sucker attack using Living Lightening.

Regarding the Ares-Thor/Hercules fight, it was a contest Ares was having with his step mother in order to see who could cause Hercules more pain. Ares' plan was to enrage Hercules enough that he would wind up killing his best friend. He didn't want Hercules dead, he wanted him to kill Eric.

The Gladiator/Hulk fight was filled with just as much PIS as the Firelord/Spiderman fight.
Heh, excuses and more excuses. Masterson and Gladiator stalemated in strength. Herc overpowered Masterson.

Ares then declared that if Hercules dies with his attacks, its no problem for him.

Hahaha.

Originally posted by zopzop
Context Abhi, C O N T E X T.

Regarding the Masterson/Gladiator fight. Gladiator just finished humiliating Wonder Man then had Masterson Thor dead to rights but just stood there doing nothing while MT set up a sucker attack using Living Lightening.

Regarding the Ares-Thor/Hercules fight, it was a contest Ares was having with his step mother in order to see who could cause Hercules more pain. Ares' plan was to enrage Hercules enough that he would wind up killing his best friend. He didn't want Hercules dead, he wanted him to kill Eric.

The Gladiator/Hulk fight was filled with just as much PIS as the Firelord/Spiderman fight.

Exactly. Gladiator was destroying Masterson...don't know why he just stood there when he could have finished him off. Masterson even said that Glads was too much and lets not forget, Gladiator dazed him twice in that fight.

The Hulk fight, Herc almost died in.that fight. Blood was everywhere. Don't know why ABHI is celebrating that showing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heh, excuses and more excuses. Masterson and Gladiator stalemated in strength. Herc overpowered Masterson.
Gladiator actually beat BOTH Wonderman AND MT but just stood around their and waiting for him to sucker attack him using Living Lightening.

That's not a bad showing for Gladiator at all.



But that wasn't clearly his intention. It was to goad him to kill Eric and thus destroy Hercules emotionally. That was Hera's plan too, to destroy him emotionally. They knew if they outright killed him, Zeus would pummel their a$$e$.

PS Two questions for you Abhi :
a) where was it stated that Hulk's durability was lowered during the fight with Gladiator?
b) where was it stated that Hercules was at half power during his fight with Hulk?

Hulk was dying when he fought both Herc and Glads. The difference is, Hulk was more powerful when he faced Glads vs when he faced Herc.

Herc was a mere blood stain when he fought Hulk and the crazy thing about it is, Hulk didn't want to fight Herc...whereas he was set for the kill vs Gladiator.

Also, ABHI knows that the Hulk was more powerful than ever (I think he knows) during that instance. Hulk was going into a complete transformation. A couple of issues later, he went World Breaker...had green energy circling his body and was melting humans just by standing close to him.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was dying when he fought both Herc and Glads. The difference is, Hulk was more powerful when he faced Glads vs when he faced Herc.

Herc was a mere blood stain when he fought Hulk and the crazy thing about it is, Hulk didn't want to fight Herc...whereas he was set for the kill vs Gladiator.

Also, ABHI knows that the Hulk was more powerful than ever (I think he knows) during that instance. Hulk was going into a complete transformation. A couple of issues later, he went World Breaker...had green energy circling his body and was melting humans just by standing close to him.
Hmm, interesting. I guess that answers the Hulk question.

Carver do you have the scan that says the Herc that was fighting Hulk was at half power (did they explain why Herc was at half power)?

Originally posted by zopzop

Gladiator actually beat BOTH Wonderman AND MT but just stood around their and waiting for him to sucker attack him using Living Lightening.

That's not a bad showing for Gladiator at all.



But that wasn't clearly his intention. It was to goad him to kill Eric and thus destroy Hercules emotionally. That was Hera's plan too, to destroy him emotionally. They knew if they outright killed him, Zeus would pummel their a$$e$.

PS Two questions for you Abhi :
a) where was it stated that Hulk's durability was lowered during the fight with Gladiator?
b) where was it stated that Hercules was at half power during his fight with Hulk?
Gladiator never beat Masterson though, that's just that. Masterson was equal to Gladiator, Herc overpowered him.

Also Ares' plan was to goad Herc to kill Thor first, but then he declared it would be good if Herc dies too.

Go in the Hulk respect thread by ODG.

In the same comic.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was dying when he fought both Herc and Glads. The difference is, Hulk was more powerful when he faced Glads vs when he faced Herc.

Herc was a mere blood stain when he fought Hulk and the crazy thing about it is, Hulk didn't want to fight Herc...whereas he was set for the kill vs Gladiator.

Also, ABHI knows that the Hulk was more powerful than ever (I think he knows) during that instance. Hulk was going into a complete transformation. A couple of issues later, he went World Breaker...had green energy circling his body and was melting humans just by standing close to him.
Heh, the comic where Herc fought Hulk happened just a few months before Hulk fought Gladiator. Hulk was amped in both scenarios.

In a straight h2h fight Herc would win but in this case Gladz for the majority

It's been a while, but I'm pretty certain Ares was specifically trying NOT to kill Hercules and was goading Hercules into killing Eric Masterson by endangering others. Even at the very end, he literally waits for Hercules to recover and tells him that Masterson has to die to stop innocent deaths.

And just like Gladiator, Hercules was knocked out by the Mjolnir shots. IIRC, once from a sucker shot from behind. The second time it took 3 to 4 hits to the face. Not sure how Hercules outperformed Gladiator in this regard either who took just as many blows and recovered as well. If Ares was going for the kill and hammered away at the Lion of Olympus, he could have beaten Hercules to death too.

I agree that Hercules would get the edge in hand to hand (With no flight/speed etc.) but Gladiator didn't fair any worse against Masterson.

Edit: Not sure how he overpowered Masterson in a contest of strength either. He tackled Masterson from the side who was waiting for Hercules to get lethal.

Herc has went h2h with the likes of Wonderman, thing and thor and got knocked around and hurt. Gladiator has went h2h with them also and barring an enchanted hammer, glads has koed or beat the hell out of them. Gladiator destroys herc.

Herc has beat the hell out of Wonder man an Thing too. He has legit overpowered Thor in Blood Oath which Gladiator has never done.

Originally posted by JBL
Herc has went h2h with the likes of Wonderman, thing and thor and got knocked around and hurt. Gladiator has went h2h with them also and barring an enchanted hammer, glads has koed or beat the hell out of them. Gladiator destroys herc. Herc has beaten WM, Thing, and was going to beat Thor in hth.

This is a PISLESS fight though.
That means Herc would be Glads plaything for amusement. He would toy with him until he gets tired, then he will end him quickly.

How did Hercules overpower Thor during Blood Oath? It was made so explicitly clear that what he did was because of a skill edge that you would legit need dyslexia or something to come to the conclusion that Hercules was physically stronger.

No PIS doesn't mean Gladz speedblitz and eye beams continuously. Herc will rock Kall here and there without a doubt hes fought beings with similar powersets and stats and wasnt a plaything. If Gladz wins its barely a W

Originally posted by abhilegend
Herc has beat the hell out of Wonder man an Thing too. He has legit overpowered Thor in Blood Oath which Gladiator has never done.

When did Gladiator fight Thor?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How did Hercules overpower Thor during Blood Oath? It was made so explicitly clear that what he did was because of a skill edge that you would legit need dyslexia or something to come to the conclusion that Hercules was physically stronger. Herc has never overpowered thor or eric, scan twisting should be against the rules by now.

Originally posted by PowerHerc
Gladiator has the advantage in speed and overall diversity of powers. Hercules is slightly stronger, more experienced, a better fighter and has more stamina. If the battle is man-to-man close combat Herc wins based on his advantages. Gladiator could win the battle using long range attacks, but why would Gladiator stay out of Herc's reach unless he lacked confidence in which case he'd be far from his usual nigh-invincible self and Herc would take him out by hurling any number and variety of objects at him until he went down.


This, exactly this.

Originally posted by PowerHerc
Gladiator has the advantage in speed and overall diversity of powers. Hercules is slightly stronger, more experienced, a better fighter and has more stamina. If the battle is man-to-man close combat Herc wins based on his advantages. Gladiator could win the battle using long range attacks, but why would Gladiator stay out of Herc's reach unless he lacked confidence in which case he'd be far from his usual nigh-invincible self and Herc would take him out by hurling any number and variety of objects at him until he went down. Totally false.

Herc wears a loin cloth and has a hairy chest. Glads loses confidence from that alone.

Originally posted by Badabing
Herc wears a loin cloth and has a hairy chest. Glads loses confidence from that alone.

Originally posted by h1a8
Iceman you are usually right. But this time you're not.
I didn't say Herc couldn't hurt Glads. I'm saying that when very confident Glads has shown greater strength than Herc ever has and is thus stronger.

As far who will win is easy. Very confident Glads is better in every way except skill (they are about equal).

Glads also have extra powers that Herc don't.
Flight, Energy Projection, and speed.


This is a non fight. I agree with h1a8.

But there is just one small problem, everything he said is completely wrong.

Originally posted by Mindset
I agree with h1a8.

But there is just one small problem, everything he said is completely wrong. You should applaud h1 for his consistency

Originally posted by Mindset


But there is just one small problem, everything he said is completely wrong. Prove it

Bump

Gladiator

Originally posted by Mindset
I agree with h1a8.

But there is just one small problem, everything he said is completely wrong.

^ We need to copy & paste it each time h1 makes a post.

That would be great so that people can be found to be idiots.
I basically said Gladiator is stronger by feats (no one disagrees), has extra powers over Hercules (flight, speed, etc) and yet Mindset trolled and said that EVERYTHING i said was completely wrong.

So that would mean Gladiator doesn't have abilities Hercules doesn't. Because thats part of everything i guess.