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Who wins?

DD adapts & wins

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
DD adapts & wins I think Asmodel wins. DD couldn't adapt past everything.

dd

Originally posted by Prep-Man
dd How?

adapting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Asmodel wins. DD couldn't adapt past everything. but this HP DD right?


how does Az kill him?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Asmodel wins. DD couldn't adapt past everything. He can't adapt to whatever kills him outright (as in one shot). If an attack doesn't one shot him then he will adapt.

but the Radiant 1-shot him & he adapted no problemo (and that wuz only DOS DD)

I don't think Asmodel's light will effect DD.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
adapting. He didn't adapt in dd wars or against imperiex's attack.Originally posted by SoulDevourer
but this HP DD right?


how does Az kill him? His power level could pull it off imo. Originally posted by h1a8
He can't adapt to whatever kills him outright (as in one shot). If an attack doesn't one shot him then he will adapt. When has this been stated? He can adapt to some attacks and what not but I don't see him adapting to the power level Asmodel can bring to the table. I think Asmodel can definitely kill him here. His heartbeat alone and the fact he was one of the biggest badasses out of all the angles in heaven proves he's got the proper tools to kill him.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
but the Radiant 1-shot him & he adapted no problemo (and that wuz only DOS DD) When he comes back the attack shouldn't kill him but he will have lost the thread.Originally posted by Prep-Man
I don't think Asmodel's light will effect DD. Why not?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has this been stated? He can adapt to some attacks and what not but I don't see him adapting to the power level Asmodel can bring to the table. the radiant had "unlimited energy" it dont get bigger then that, but DD still adapted


btw even Imperiex cant kill DD permanently (he cant destroy the bones, and DD wuz gonna regenarate from the bones with time) so IMO DD could of adapted to that too

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
the radiant had "unlimited energy" it dont get bigger then that, but DD still adapted


btw even Imperiex cant kill DD permanently (he cant destroy the bones, and DD wuz gonna regenarate from the bones with time) so IMO DD could of adapted to that too It's been a while when did it say he had unlimited energy in that arc? That also has nothing to do with a different attack whereas Asmodel is a high ranking leader of the bull host who can shower the light of heaven on him which he certainly hasn't dealt with yet.

I never said Asmodel could kill him for good either, but Imperiex easily destroyed him and he didn't return. All you have to do is get one kill in to win a vs. thread here.

Asmodel, the Chief Angel of the Bull host of Heaven right? Didn't the physically less than full powered electric blue Superman wrestle him into submission? H/P Doomsday is way stronger than Electric Blue Superman.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Asmodel, the Chief Angel of the Bull host of Heaven right? Didn't the physically less than full powered electric blue Superman wrestle him into submission? H/P Doomsday is way stronger than Electric Blue Superman. No, they had a brief stalemate and the rest of jla cut Asmodel off so he couldn't appear in his true form on that plane anymore.

Supes was lucky they sent him away as quickly as they did.

Oh okay, its been a while I just remember Kyle Rayner (i think) commenting on how Supes had an angel in a chokehold.
Asmodel was something of a joke to Neron (not that it says much on Asmodel's weakness) and I'm pretty sure he was somewhere around Etrigan's level. In that case H/P Doomsday mops the floor with him in pure h/h and probably takes a majority even if Asmodel uses magic. Has magic ever been shown to work on Doomsday?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Oh okay, its been a while I just remember Kyle Rayner (i think) commenting on how Supes had an angel in a chokehold.
Asmodel was something of a joke to Neron (not that it says much on Asmodel's weakness) and I'm pretty sure he was somewhere around Etrigan's level. In that case H/P Doomsday mops the floor with him in pure h/h and probably takes a majority even if Asmodel uses magic. Has magic ever been shown to work on Doomsday? Neron tricked Asmodel and nothing more. He knew they couldn't defeat the presence as the presence resides in everything. Asmodel is definitely built to pwn Neron with his angelic powers.

He's well above Etrigan. Why are you bringing up magic?

I assume magic is Asmodel's greatest asset here. And isn't Neron at least near the level of the Spectre? If so I doubt Asmodel could have beaten him even without the trickery.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I assume magic is Asmodel's greatest asset here. And isn't Neron at least near the level of the Spectre? If so I doubt Asmodel could have beaten him even without the trickery. No, it really isn't. He has the scouring light of heaven which would dominate any high ranking demon like Etrigan or Neron.

I think this attack would also cripple DD.

I know this is getting off topic but Neron is the most powerful of demons and I doubt Asmodel could beat a being that had some power over the Spectre.
In any case its purely hypothetical if such an attack would do anything to a non-demonic being since it sounds a little metaphysical to me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't adapt in dd wars or against imperiex's attack. 1.) there really wasn't a need for doomsday to adapt during the DD wars. he was already capable of easily owning any character(s) placed in front of him, without further evolution.

2.) imo, imperiex represented a FAR more powerful force than doomsday had ever gone up against. thus, it came as absolutely no surprise that his blast would be sufficient to atomize DD. regardless, that instance has no bearing here. asmodel is NO imperiex.

Hey on the subject of Imperiex, where was the Spectre when all that crap was going on?
And no Asmodel is no comparison to Imperiex, it's like comparing a Derringer Pocket Pistol to a 357 Magnum

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I know this is getting off topic but Neron is the most powerful of demons and I doubt Asmodel could beat a being that had some power over the Spectre.
In any case its purely hypothetical if such an attack would do anything to a non-demonic being since it sounds a little metaphysical to me. Didn't he trick the Spectre? The Spectre would hand Neron his ass in a fight so I think it's a moot point.

If you have a good reason why you believe Neron could fare well against the scouring light of heaven I'm ready for one.Originally posted by Galan007
1.) there really wasn't a need for doomsday to adapt during the DD wars. he was already capable of easily owning any character(s) placed in front of him, without further evolution.

2.) imo, imperiex represented a FAR more powerful force than doomsday had ever gone up against. thus, it came as absolutely no surprise that his blast would be sufficient to atomize DD. regardless, that instance has no bearing here. asmodel is NO imperiex. 1.The point is he wasn't evolving past everything thrown his way.
He hadn't changed since hp and was still dealt with twice since then.

2.True, but the ease that DD was easily beaten shows me that Asmodel who represents a powerful force as well could do the same.

Asmodel won't be able to harm DD. Not the way he does everyone else.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Asmodel won't be able to harm DD. Not the way he does everyone else. Why not? Are you saying DD>light of heaven?

yes.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
yes. Based on what?

not effecting DD.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
not effecting DD. If he hasn't went up against it before it will definitely effect him.

DD is not even living, with no mind or heart. It won't be a factor, IMO.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
DD is not even living, with no mind or heart. It won't be a factor, IMO. When DD is killed he isn't running around causing mischief so there is a big difference between a dead DD and an alive one.

The light effects the living. DD is more like a Frankenstein. Will not work.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
The light effects the living. DD is more like a Frankenstein. Will not work. DD is alive so I fail to see your point.

not in the sense of say Superman or Orion.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
not in the sense of say Superman or Orion. I know there are vast difference, but he is very much alive.

yes, but he won't go to heaven or hell. I don;t see the light really effecting him and if it does, he'll just adapt.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
yes, but he won't go to heaven or hell. I don;t see the light really effecting him and if it does, he'll just adapt. I know he won't but that's hardly here or there. The light effects him because he has never went up against anything like it before. Asmodel has the power to kill him.

the light is not that powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.The point is he wasn't evolving past everything thrown his way.
He hadn't changed since hp and was still dealt with twice since then.

2.True, but the ease that DD was easily beaten shows me that Asmodel who represents a powerful force as well could do the same. 1.) the point is: doomsday didn't need to evolve during the DD wars. he was already > anything and everything he faced.

2.) just because imperiex was able to do it, does NOT mean asmodel would be able to. like i said above, asmodel is NO imperiex.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
the light is not that powerful. I beg to differ.Originally posted by Galan007
1.) the point is: doomsday didn't need to evolve during the DD wars. he was already > anything and everything he faced.

2.) just because imperiex was able to do it, does NOT mean asmodel would be able to. like i said above, asmodel is NO imperiex. 1)Yes, he was above the top tiers he faced and their attacks.

2)You don't have to be imperiex to beat DD. Just saying how easy it was for the probe to do so.

I think Asmodel definitely has the tools/ power level to pull off a kill.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1)Yes, he was above the top tiers he faced and their attacks.

2)You don't have to be imperiex to beat DD. Just saying how easy it was for the probe to do so. 1.) cool, then you agree evolution was not needed. that was my only point.

2.) it was not an imperiex probe which 'killed' doomsday it was imperiex himself.

Yep, Imperiex himself killed DD, not a probe. And Asmodel is NO Imperiex, so DD still.

Originally posted by Galan007
1.) cool, then you agree evolution was not needed. that was my only point.

2.) it was not an imperiex probe which 'killed' doomsday it was imperiex himself. 1.Yes, I agree he didn't evolve. I also don't think he needed to evolve against the oe as it just simply wasn't powerful enough to kill him.

2.Ah, I thought it was just another probe. Been a while since I read owaw.

I still think Asmodel has the power to do so.Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yep, Imperiex himself killed DD, not a probe. And Asmodel is NO Imperiex, so DD still. Are you saying only someone like Imperiex can kill DD at this level?

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.Yes, I agree he didn't evolve. I also don't think he needed to evolve against the oe as it just simply wasn't powerful enough to kill him.

2.Ah, I thought it was just another probe. Been a while since I read owaw. 1.)

2.) yeah, it was THE imperiex. doomsday was destroying the probes like they were fodder.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.Yes, I agree he didn't evolve. I also don't think he needed to evolve against the oe as it just simply wasn't powerful enough to kill him.

2.Ah, I thought it was just another probe. Been a while since I read owaw.

I still think Asmodel has the power to do so. Are you saying only someone like Imperiex can kill DD at this level?
It doesn't have to be at Imperiex's level but I doubt Asmodel (based on feats) has the power to do it.

Since DD can't fly, Ass-model wins by flying away.

Doesn't that count as a win for DD though?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Doesn't that count as a win for DD though?

Yes, for the forum. But from Ass-model's perspective, he wins by avoiding an a$$ raping.

Originally posted by Galan007
1.)

2.) yeah, it was THE imperiex. doomsday was destroying the probes like they were fodder. K. I'm still too lazy to put my Superman disc in again for a quick peek.Originally posted by Omega Vision
It doesn't have to be at Imperiex's level but I doubt Asmodel (based on feats) has the power to do it. His heartbeat was desribed as a whole lot of atom bombs alone. Cronus and his pantheon who also had the power of the greek pantheon didn't attack them until they became more powerful because their fanatical and powerful. Asmodel was one of the baddest angels out there.

DD would be in for it.

Asmodel's heartbeat is that of a thousand Hiroshemas.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Asmodel's heartbeat is that of a thousand Hiroshemas. Yeah, very impressive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
K. I'm still too lazy to put my Superman disc in again for a quick peek. doomsday and superman easily shred through several imperiex probes:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp1.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp2.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp3.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp4.jpg
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then doomsday is 'killed' by THE imperiex:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp5.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp6.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp7.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
doomsday and superman easily shred through several imperiex probes:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp1.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp2.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp3.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp4.jpg
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then doomsday is 'killed' by THE imperiex:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp5.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp6.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/imp7.jpg Yeah. I remember how impressive DD and Superman were together and then how insignificant they were when he showed up.

Asmodel Wins. He has all of his powers plus the powers of the other angels. They have a sword that can cut thru any thing. They have a scream that can destroy matter on a submolecular level. He's stronger than Manhunter and Was able to match energy Superman. Who was stronger than the regular Superman. And Blue Superman was Using his Energy powers to fight Asmodel. Not physical powers. Asmodel Wins. Easily. One Scream and Doomsday is sub atomic ash.

Blue Energy Superman was weaker than normal Superman on a physical level. There were a lot of trade offs but his strength and super-hearing suffered.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Blue Energy Superman was weaker than normal Superman on a physical level. There were a lot of trade offs but his strength and super-hearing suffered. They only fought briefly so it wasn't like they fought for a long time and Asmodel was bfr'd by the rest of the jla.

But the fact that Asmodel didn't immediately crush Superman says something about Asmodel's physical limits.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
But the fact that Asmodel didn't immediately crush Superman says something about Asmodel's physical limits.
Not Really. He was toying with the Martian and wasn't scratched. Asmodel Thought the light of heaven would destroy Superman and he was caught off guard.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
But the fact that Asmodel didn't immediately crush Superman says something about Asmodel's physical limits. No, it doesn't. He was completely fine and he just got through having his way with MM.