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Walter and Piotr duke it out.

bait bah bait bait baaaaaaaaait.

Colossus.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
bait bah bait bait baaaaaaaaait.
Regardless of other thread, it's still a fairly close matchup and I couldn't find it in the thread directory.

Walters low showings seem to make people think he's no match for Colossus.

Russia beats Canada. Metal beats Fur. Etc...

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Regardless of other thread, it's still a fairly close matchup and I couldn't find it in the thread directory. only one person think Sas wins. not sure that makes it a close match.

Colossus wins.

Pretty good fight, but Piotr takes it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
only one person think Sas wins. not sure that makes it a close match.

You are an idiot.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-common-practice.html

Originally posted by KingD19
Russia beats Canada.

Not in hockey

Sasquatch. He's a weight class above Colossus.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Not in hockey

I don't endorse hockey, the only reason I even turn to it is to see a fight.

Originally posted by dmills
Sasquatch. He's a weight class above Colossus.

Current Sasquatch is probably in Colossus weight class, but he's in no way above it.

Originally posted by KingD19
Current Sasquatch is probably in Colossus weight class, but he's in no way above it.

Base form yes, but as noted Walter can tap into more power making him stronger. It all depends on Walter's mindset.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Base form yes, but as noted Walter can tap into more power making him stronger. It all depends on Walter's mindset. Seems like everybody in comics can "tap into more power" these days.

didnt colossus already beat sasquach?

Originally posted by KingD19
Current Sasquatch is probably in Colossus weight class, but he's in no way above it. I admittedly haven't been up on any Alpha Flight in years. What's up with Walter that he isn't above Colossus? Depowered?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
didnt colossus already beat sasquach?

No, not at all.

Originally posted by dmills
I admittedly haven't been up on any Alpha Flight in years. What's up with Walter that he isn't above Colossus? Depowered?

Nope, Colossus just became stronger when he became an adult. If he taps into Tanaraq he is far stronger then Colossus. I would put their base levels at similar levels

i pretty sure ive seen a scan where colossus beat sasquatch . i try to see if i can find it

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i pretty sure ive seen a scan where colossus beat sasquatch . i try to see if i can find it

You won't, they fought once and below is the entire fight.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg07.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg09.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg10.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg11.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg12.jpg
6. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/uxm-121-25.jpg

Walter treats Colossus like a child

Originally posted by -K-M-

5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg12.jpg
6. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/uxm-121-25.jpg

Walter treats Colossus like a child

Originally posted by -K-M-


Walter treats Colossus like a child see, this is why I call you biased.

Sas in no way treats Colossus like a child. They trade blows and the fight ends with Colossus slamming Sas like a ragdoll to the ground. Victory for either? prob not. But Sas treating Piotr like a ragdoll? Only someone's fantasy.

Actually Colossus was a child back then.

Originally posted by Starscream M
see, this is why I call you biased.

Sas in no way treats Colossus like a child. They trade blows and the fight ends with Colossus slamming Sas like a ragdoll to the ground. Victory for either? prob not. But Sas treating Piotr like a ragdoll? Only someone's fantasy.

I take it you didnt look at the scans did you? First Walter mocks Colossus strength, holds him in the air, and prior to the judo toss Walter is holding his head while Colossus swings in the air while missing. That is the very definition of treating someone like a child That's not being biased that's fact

Colossus was giving Sasquatch a beat the dog session imo.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus was giving Sasquatch a beat the dog session imo.

What does that mean?

Originally posted by -K-M-
I take it you didnt look at the scans did you? First Walter mocks Colossus strength, holds him in the air, and prior to the judo toss Walter is holding his head while Colossus swings in the air while missing. That is the very definition of treating someone like a child That's not being biased that's fact Sasquatch was mocking the strength of a young Colossus who wasn't giving it his all during that time period as noted in the opening page of the very next issue.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Sasquatch was mocking the strength of a young Colossus who wasn't giving it his all during that time period as noted in the opening page of the very next issue.

Can you post that?

and also this is colossus when he was class 70

Originally posted by -K-M-
Walter is holding his head while Colossus swings in the air while missing yeah...and the next second gets slammed to the ground.

I don't know what kinda kids you bully, but if I were messing with a kid, I wouldn't be slammed to the ground.

Only advantage Walter showcased was that he had longer limbs. But Colossus certainly ended up getting the better off Walter...that is indisputable.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Can you post that?
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossuspress.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossuspress-2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashinthedangerroom.jpg

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
and also this is colossus when he was class 70

Correct, and Walter at that time was listed as class 70 too funny enough.

Originally posted by Starscream M

Only advantage Walter showcased was that he had longer limbs. I've said this before actually.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah...and the next second gets slammed to the ground.

I don't know what kinda kids you bully, but if I were messing with a kid, I wouldn't be slammed to the ground.

Only advantage Walter showcased was that he had longer limbs. But Colossus certainly ended up getting the better off Walter...that is indisputable.

heh! your must be blind look at what Walter was doing before he got judo who even said oops going down. He had his hand on Colossus forehead, while he swings widly. That is a bully move, but Walter left his guard down and leaving his arm open. Not hard to grasp

Better of him? you cant be serious, if you mean a judo toss which he got up from makes you the victor you really are a troll

Originally posted by snoopdogg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossuspress.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossuspress-2.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossussmashinthedangerroom.jpg

Thanks, that was more of a confidence issue but he could have still been using his full strength just doubted himself like there

Originally posted by -K-M-




Thanks, that was more of a confidence issue but he could have still been using his full strength just doubted himself like there He wasn't trying very hard as Cyke and Logan state. He didn't try until Logan put himself in danger and that snapped him out of it.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Correct, and Walter at that time was listed as class 70 too funny enough.

Yeah, a Class 70 tossing a DC-10 against it's fully engaged thrusters.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
He wasn't trying very hard as Cyke and Logan state. He didn't try until Logan put himself in danger and that snapped him out of it.

Or he had the strength but didn't believe he could do it. He just didn't think he had the strength, but did.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Or he had the strength but didn't believe he could do it. He just didn't think he had the strength, but did. Either way he was in period of self doubt and wan't giving it his all.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Either way he was in period of self doubt and wan't giving it his all.

Well, Walter wasnt taking Colossus seriously, so he wasnt giving it his all either. Colossus, however was trying to defeat Sassy with brute force. He may not have been using all his strength, but he was trying. Sassy on the other hand was just looking to embarrass.

Edit: Its clear who was putting more effort into that fight. Thats Colossus.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well, Walter wasnt taking Colossus seriously, so he wasnt giving it his all either. Colossus, however was trying to defeat Sassy with brute force. He may not have been using all his strength, but he was trying. Sassy on the other hand was just looking to embarrass.

Edit: Its clear who was putting more effort into that fight. Thats Colossus. Originally posted by snoopdogg
Either way he was in period of self doubt and wan't giving it his all.

Well snoop, neither were giving it their all. In that fight would you not agree that Colossus was trying harder to harm/damage Sassy than the other way around?

Originally posted by -K-M-
You won't, they fought once and below is the entire fight.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg07.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg09.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg10.jpg
Walt was winning this portion.

Originally posted by -K-M-



4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg11.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg12.jpg
6. http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/uxm-121-25.jpg

Cyclops tells Colossus to get his head out of his ass and it's all Colossus. I'd say the time to quite "messing" around was over that this point for Sasquatch. After the judo toss Sasquatch gets back to his feet, the next panel he's back on the ground. I'm sorry but I'm not going to believe the wind knocked down Sasqsuatch.

It actually looks like Colossus was in the process of beating Sassy over the head when he was distracted.

Who knows what happened, as the fighting stopped after the judo toss as everyone was in the same positions when Storm stoped the snow strom.

I remember another fight Walter got judo tossed and he basically laughed at them and said along the lines...Oh now I have to get up now? Why is a judo toss a big deal again? Especially when Walter left his arm open for it

Originally posted by -K-M-
Why is a judo toss a big deal again? Especially when Walter left his arm open for it well, the thing is...a judo toss isn't that big a deal.

but getting judo tossed is still worse than not getting judo tossed. it also shows that colossus is either more skilled or smarter than walter.

Colossus kayoed Nimrod with some Judo tosses. Kitty disrupted his sensors but I don't think that effected his durability.

Originally posted by Starscream M
well, the thing is...a judo toss isn't that big a deal.

but getting judo tossed is still worse than not getting judo tossed. it also shows that colossus is either more skilled or smarter than walter.

Your right it is still better then not a judo toss, but we clearly saw it was Walter not taking the fight serious and left his arm open (As his hand was on Colossus head) that caused it.

Originally posted by -K-M-
but we clearly saw it was Walter not taking the fight serious and left his arm open (As his hand was on Colossus head) that caused it. oh brother, you know what, I'm not even going to bother

Originally posted by Starscream M
oh brother, you know what, I'm not even going to bother

That's actually what happened

I suggest you read jrodslam comments in this thread before you try to roll your eyes and further embarass yourself

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus kayoed Nimrod with some Judo tosses. he also destroyed a 50ft sentinel with a judo toss

EITHER WAY!

Geez.

FIght at CURRENT levels?

Colossus. After the whole Bloodlines mini-series, he's a lot more focused. He makes a sasquatch-skin rug for his room.

I find it odd that no one has commented on what Sas says when he gets tossed. He actually says "whoops!" Do you think that some one (even in comics) would say "whoops" if they were actually taking the fight seriously.

Sas is not taking the confrontation seriously, even at the point where people say that he's winning. There's no winner or loser to this fight as it is basically a nonfight as one of the opponents is laying way back.

If Walter was taking this serious, and went full apesh*t on Colossus, this would be a way different fight.

The fact that this is so disputed just shows the bias to colossus and the general disrespect (and lack of knowledge) that's generally directed towards Sasquatch.

So yo think Walter was still holding back after the judo toss?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So yo think Walter was still holding back after the judo toss?
see no reason to assume he was not. We see nothing that suggest he drasticaly changed his mentality.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
see no reason to assume he was not. We see nothing that suggest he drasticaly changed his mentality. LOL.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
LOL.
What is so funny?

oh why do I bother it not like you take what ever I said serious and just make some stupid joke, like your shitty animal one, which was not clever by the way.

And here I thought Sasquatch was a genius.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
And here I thought Sasquatch was a genius. He's suppose to be.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
He makes a sasquatch-skin rug for his room.

......*shakes head*

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I find it odd that no one has commented on what Sas says when he gets tossed. He actually says "whoops!" Do you think that some one (even in comics) would say "whoops" if they were actually taking the fight seriously.

Sas is not taking the confrontation seriously, even at the point where people say that he's winning. There's no winner or loser to this fight as it is basically a nonfight as one of the opponents is laying way back.

If Walter was taking this serious, and went full apesh*t on Colossus, this would be a way different fight.

The fact that this is so disputed just shows the bias to colossus and the general disrespect (and lack of knowledge) that's generally directed towards Sasquatch.



I have said the same thing many times

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So yo think Walter was still holding back after the judo toss?

I would hope so, but who knows we didn't see what he was like as battlehammer said.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
And here I thought Sasquatch was a genius.

So is Thunderball.....poor guy gets no respect

Originally posted by -K-M-




I would hope so, but who knows we didn't see what he was like as battlehammer said.



There was no reason to be "playing" around after Colossus slammed him. It can't really be argued.

Over in the Herc./Sasquatch thread you said they looked even when Hercules was clearly playing with Walter and Walter was not messing around with Hercules at all.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
There was no reason to be "playing" around after Colossus slammed him. It can't really be argued.

Over in the Herc./Sasquatch thread you said they looked even when Hercules was clearly playing with Walter and Walter was not messing around with Hercules at all.

Ok? Like I said we didn't see what Sasquatch was like after the judo toss to say.

Completly different circumstances, and I never said they were going full out now did I? Hercules also hit him with two sucker punches, you cant say the same thing happened with Colossus/Sasquatch can you?

But Hercules was still playing around.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But Hercules was still playing around.

Yes he was, but you cant compare the two fights it doesn't work.

Sure it does.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
There was no reason to be "playing" around after Colossus slammed him. It can't really be argued. Good point fellow forum poster

EDIT: GSPisBenAskren

Both fought the Juggernaut. I think Colossus handles those fights better.
Sasquatch was seeing birdies circling his head after the first round.

Piotr