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For kicks. Who wins between these two?

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann was the last mech that lagann turned into, is 10 million light years in height and punches through galaxies like they're nothing.

Vegito is (apparantly) the strongest DBZ character, as a quick google pointed out.

Fight!

http://www.freewebs.com/dbz-maailma/vegito%20ssj1.jpg

Super Vegito (maybe)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sqZsRAg08s8/SYUD-NiZhkI/AAAAAAAAAlo/v_eC1hqXjbc/s400/TengenToppaGurren-LagannMECH.jpg

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. (west sidiiied)

For something that was able to hold against the Big Bang, and tank galaxies having been throw at then I don't see Vegito winning this.

This is going to be very, very amusing.

Thats what I thought!

But only two bites.... *mopes*

Anyway, I was thinking that Vegito would have maybe a manouverability advantage, or perhaps he could try to take out Simon. But yeah mostly this was for the lol factor of having a 6 ft tall character take on one whos 10 millon lightyears tall. Plus I wanted to have TTGL in a fight.

I'd like to see how Vegito can fight something that's bigger than not just one galaxy but a dozen. Is Team Gurren even gonna notice he's attacking them? I don't think he'll even make a dent on that thing.

Him attacking that Gurren would be like someone firing a squirt gun at a tank: no damage would be taken.

And besides, powerful enough to destroy galaxies>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>powerful enough to blow up a planet.

This is a major spite thread

Dude, just what in the world did you think when you created this thread? TTGL throws a Galaxy like a shuriken. Let alone Giga Drill Breaker which is much more powerful than a galaxy throw. Vegito will be destroyed very very badly like a bug.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
I'd like to see how Vegito can fight something that's bigger than not just one galaxy but a dozen. Is Team Gurren even gonna notice he's attacking them? I don't think he'll even make a dent on that thing.

Him attacking that Gurren would be like someone firing a squirt gun at a tank: no damage would be taken.

And besides, powerful enough to destroy galaxies>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>powerful enough to blow up a planet. worse; it's be like firing a mono-atom stream at a star.

TTGL moves foward by the slightest amount and kills Vegito on impact.

the gravity alone would tear him apart

How could Tengen even notice he's there? It'd be like me picking a fight with a proton.

Your responses are priceless, this was totally worth it.

I'm slightly disappointed. Come on DBZ fans where are you?

In the past I've seen hilarious DBZ versus Gurren Lagann arguments. My favourite being Buu turning it in to candy.

Still the whole target the pilots thing is flawed. How does Vegeto know there are pilots. How can he sense their Ki when they're sitting inside a giant spiral energy construct? It'd be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

Vegito is a like small drop of dirt compare to TTGL. Super Gurren Lagann would be a better match up.

BURN THE HEAVENS!

Doesn't Vegito know Instant Transmission?

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I'm slightly disappointed. Come on DBZ fans where are you?

In the past I've seen hilarious DBZ versus Gurren Lagann arguments. My favourite being Buu turning it in to candy.

Still the whole target the pilots thing is flawed. How does Vegeto know there are pilots. How can he sense their Ki when they're sitting inside a giant spiral energy construct? It'd be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

Black hair Goku 8/10

Originally posted by Overdose
Doesn't Vegito know Instant Transmission? Exactly how would that aid him in battle against a foe that is large enough to chuck galaxies like frisbees?

in the anime it showed the IT as lightspeed travel. it takes light 8 minutes to get from the sun to our earth, and billions of years to cross the milky way galaxy......so yeah, it won't amount to jack shit even if it's speed was multiplied by a thousand.

It is actually not lightspeed, it is instantaneous, Goku has traveled across the galaxy and even other dimensions with it.

Originally posted by carver9
Black hair Goku 8/10

Now that's the sort of thing I came for!

Vegito is like a drop of water in an ocean.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Vegito is like a drop of water in an ocean. ...on a planet not unlike waterworld (covered in water), in a galaxy full of waterworlds, in a mega-cluster of those same galaxies.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Exactly how would that aid him in battle against a foe that is large enough to chuck galaxies like frisbees? Size aint er thang when the giant thing you face off against has humans in the cockpit (David and Goliath, except Goliath is like 10 trillion times larger and David is like 10 trillion times more powerful) And the guy your facin' can move across the universe instantly and can sense power levels from across the universe. Hell, weaker fools can sense power when they're in Heaven, dead, and when the guy there sensing is on earth. Tengen Toppa is still pretty phuckin huge and it's easy to see why many would claim him for instant victory but I think it's pretty unfair to start creatin' imaginary limits on Vegito simply cuz we REALLY like Gurren Laggan.

Can't really say who wins cuz we don't know the limits of Vegito's power. But that's just what a KMC poster looks like when they keep it real.

You do know that you can't teleport into Super Spiral space when TTGL exists, right? The Anti-Spiral teleported onto the bridge of their ship but when they formed TTGL he couldn't.

How so? TTGL tank two galaxies throw at him, and no one in DBZGT can tank something that approximately 100000 years long. Marvel wise, TTGL is way above skyfather (TTGL would likely beat Odin and Surtur).

Originally posted by Endless Mike
You do know that you can't teleport into Super Spiral space when TTGL exists, right? The Anti-Spiral teleported onto the bridge of their ship but when they formed TTGL he couldn't. Where does it say that you can't teleport inside the TTGL? So we are to assume that because The Anti-Spiral could not do it, Vegito can't either. The TTGL is like an Anti-Spiral killer, existing to destroy Anti Spirals so why should everything an Anti Spiral do apply to everyone else in the googleplex of anime universes?

Also, Goku had already explained that IT isn't really teleporting anyway. Forgot what he said it was. Besides, not sayin' that Vegito is gonna IT onto the bridge. I'm suggesting that he IT right in Simon's face and kill'em wit a power up.

Then again, I really don't know what Vegito can do so maybe he wont. There is very lil evidence on what Vegito is like at full power so I can't suggest anything.

TTGL is too big for the KMC arena, Vegito wins via technicality

Originally posted by Overdose
Size aint er thang when the giant thing you face off against has humans in the cockpit (David and Goliath, except Goliath is like 10 trillion times larger and David is like 10 trillion times more powerful) And the guy your facin' can move across the universe instantly and can sense power levels from across the universe. Hell, weaker fools can sense power when they're in Heaven, dead, and when the guy there sensing is on earth. Tengen Toppa is still pretty phuckin huge and it's easy to see why many would claim him for instant victory but I think it's pretty unfair to start creatin' imaginary limits on Vegito simply cuz we REALLY like Gurren Laggan.

Can't really say who wins cuz we don't know the limits of Vegito's power. But that's just what a KMC poster looks like when they keep it real. Not a single thing you said proved Vegito had any advantage in this fight.

TTGL is a reality warper, so it can just make the arena big enough.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
fail

Originally posted by Overdose
Where does it say that you can't teleport inside the TTGL? So we are to assume that because The Anti-Spiral could not do it, Vegito can't either. The TTGL is like an Anti-Spiral killer, existing to destroy Anti Spirals so why should everything an Anti Spiral do apply to everyone else in the googleplex of anime universes?

Also, Goku had already explained that IT isn't really teleporting anyway. Forgot what he said it was. Besides, not sayin' that Vegito is gonna IT onto the bridge. I'm suggesting that he IT right in Simon's face and kill'em wit a power up.

Then again, I really don't know what Vegito can do so maybe he wont. There is very lil evidence on what Vegito is like at full power so I can't suggest anything.

How does Vegeto know Tengen Toppa Gurren lagann has pilots? How does it sense their energy amongst the maelstrom of spiral energy that makes up the super robot? Could Vegeto even sense a human from that far away? What stops TTGL attacking first?

Also you're expecting vegeto to fight smart. Smarts was never his strong point

Originally posted by Nephthys
TTGL is a reality warper, so it can just make the arena big enough.

Or he could make himself small enough for the arena .

It should still be a curbstomp though.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
fail
Typo, big guy. I'm sure you're all too familiar with those.

IT is teleportation, Goku explains it as teleportation and Buu says it's teleportation too. Furthermore the Anti-Spiral is a powerful reality warper who controlled his own dimension, if he can't teleport inside of TTGL what makes you think Vegeto can?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Or he could make himself small enough for the arena .

It should still be a curbstomp though.


Typo, big guy. I'm sure you're all too familiar with those. of coarse, that's how i spotted yours.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
of coarse, that's how i spotted yours.

Indeed, you have had loads of practice with your own.

LOL!

TTGL OWNS!

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Indeed, you have had loads of practice with your own.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by psycho gundam
fail reiterating for lulz

Smart comeback .

~ Though I don't think it was 'fail' as it was a typo, it still was lulzy .

Now now children, settle down.

You're the one who started a spite thread for kicks .

Originally posted by NemeBro
Not a single thing you said proved Vegito had any advantage in this fight. I never said Vegito had an advantage. I wasn't even talkin' to anybody nor did I say Vegito would even win in this thread when I 1st posted. All I'm sayin' is, Vegito hasn't been seen enough to actaully have an advantage over anyone. Yet er body just assumes that there are things Vegito can't do in a fight.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
How does Vegeto know Tengen Toppa Gurren lagann has pilots? How does it sense their energy amongst the maelstrom of spiral energy that makes up the super robot? Could Vegeto even sense a human from that far away? What stops TTGL attacking first?

Also you're expecting vegeto to fight smart. Smarts was never his strong point He doesn't have to know that he's even fightin' an impossibly large robot before he kills Simon.

I'm sure Vegito would know the difference between the chi of a man and some energy he's never felt before. That's like Goku not bein' able to sense Mystic Gohan from Heaven cuz there are too many stars around in the universe. I think if lil old Goku could feel Gohan from that far away, he would feel the malicious chi of a human, somehow sittin' in the middle of space wit the intent to kill him.

And It would prolly take TTGL a million years for its hand to even reach Vegito.

And now we are assuming that Vegito is an idiot based on what?

I suppose a diseased Nematode has no chance of killin' a human. A human is just to big to be effected.

Not even sayin Vegito is gonna win just how the Hell will TTGL even know Vegito exists?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
IT is teleportation, Goku explains it as teleportation and Buu says it's teleportation too. Furthermore the Anti-Spiral is a powerful reality warper who controlled his own dimension, if he can't teleport inside of TTGL what makes you think Vegeto can? Yeah, yeah, yeah...The Anti Spiral is Uber powerful so if it can't do it nothin' can. That's a story heard too often round these parts that focuses on power, instead of actual ability.

Vegito has better chances cuz IT uses the chi of his foes as a guide. Goku also does not simply teleport, he travels as a mass of light to his destination, now your sayin that TTGL's presence prohibits light speed travel and beyond. We also know that IT allows Goku to reach impossible places like Heaven and Hell cuz he uses the chi of the Kais to guide him. I think that IT is VERY different from the simple unexplained teleportation we see the Anti-Spriral use.

Not sayin Vegito is gonna win. Just sayin we shouldn't start riddin' band waggons when we don't know all the facts.

Sorry 'bout the triple post. Somthin's gotta be done about these stupid time restrictions.

TTG wins this 10/10 but if he shrinks to vegito size then this is spite. Vegito would RAPE him and easily.

By the way, I know its not cannon but goku already fought a reality warper and did quite well against it and vegito entered and one shotted it. I think the reality warper is >>>ttg.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, I know its not cannon but goku already fought a reality warper and did quite well against it and vegito entered and one shotted it. I think the reality warper is >>>ttg.

Was this reality warper as big as TTGL?

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Was this reality warper as big as TTGL?

I guess you didnt see the part where I said if he shrunk to vegito size.

TTGL lagann is extension of Simons and the others will and the potentially universe collapsing energy existing within the Dai gurren brigade.

I'm going to put forward that spiral energy is for all intents and purposes chi. Vegeto has no feats to show that he can separate a humans energy from a galaxy sized inferno of the same energy.



And this is the point where we realise you haven't seen the show. TTGL can leap between galaxies in moments. It is massively faster than light.



Anti spiral's achievements:

Conquering every sentient race in universe.
Convincing Earth's leader to wipe out his own armies and keep them
Created entire alternate realities to fight his enemies
underground for thousands of years.
Achieve goal of universe not dieing
God of own universe.
Caused death of heroes wife.

Vegeto's:

Beat up Buu
...



You're really going with the Goku is a ball of light thing? What are the crew of TTGL going to do with themselves in the millions of years it takes to reach them. Has Vegeto even used IT?




When he refuses to kill Buu to so that Buu would absorb him? This was to rescue Goku and Vegeto's friends and family The same friends and family which were left to die minutes after their rescue.

Good plan there.

Originally posted by Overdose
Yeah, yeah, yeah...The Anti Spiral is Uber powerful so if it can't do it nothin' can. That's a story heard too often round these parts that focuses on power, instead of actual ability.

Vegito has better chances cuz IT uses the chi of his foes as a guide. Goku also does not simply teleport, he travels as a mass of light to his destination

This is a dub line that is wrong, read the manga.

Also even if TTGL was the same size as Vegito it would still win due to the fact that it can regenerate infinitely and change probability.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, I know its not cannon but goku already fought a reality warper and did quite well against it and vegito entered and one shotted it. I think the reality warper is >>>ttg. And who is this reality warper?

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, I know its not cannon but goku already fought a reality warper and did quite well against it and vegito entered and one shotted it. I think the reality warper is >>>ttg.
I seriously doubt he was as powerful as TTGL was at Reality-Warping.
Originally posted by NemeBro
And who is this reality warper?

Janemba. At first I thought he was talking about Buuhan because he mentioned Vegito...so many wrong things with that though.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
TTGL lagann is extension of Simons and the others will and the potentially universe collapsing energy existing within the Dai gurren brigade.

I'm going to put forward that spiral energy is for all intents and purposes chi. Vegeto has no feats to show that he can separate a humans energy from a galaxy sized inferno of the same energy.



And this is the point where we realise you haven't seen the show. TTGL can leap between galaxies in moments. It is massively faster than light.



Anti spiral's achievements:

Conquering every sentient race in universe.
Convincing Earth's leader to wipe out his own armies and keep them
Created entire alternate realities to fight his enemies
underground for thousands of years.
Achieve goal of universe not dieing
God of own universe.
Caused death of heroes wife.

Vegeto's:

Beat up Buu
...



You're really going with the Goku is a ball of light thing? What are the crew of TTGL going to do with themselves in the millions of years it takes to reach them. Has Vegeto even used IT?




When he refuses to kill Buu to so that Buu would absorb him? This was to rescue Goku and Vegeto's friends and family The same friends and family which were left to die minutes after their rescue.

Good plan there. 1. If Piccolo can hear a specific beings voice through out the entire and Goku can lock on to King Kais energy from the living world, I don't see why Vegito can not do what you say he can't. It 's as if you've seen an episode of the show where Vegito has tried to feel out someones energy and failed. Have you?

2. I have seen every episode except for the last few. I admit that I have not seen the entire TTGL fight but I saw the last minutes on youtube and even watched the vid explaining his size. 'Course he can hop galaxy to galaxy, he's huge as hell. We are going to start the fight off where TTGL is in attack range and Vegito is not? Doesn't sound fair even if TTGL's range is farther.

3. Those are awesome achievements, I agree. But you make it sound as if Vegito has none because he is weak and not just because he's been in only 5 episodes of a nearly 300 episode anime. Again, creating false limitations based on nothing.

4.It is said that Goku turns into a ball of light, not that he travels at the same speed. We see Goku IT to New Namek instantly. Everyone knows that light can't go to another planet from earth in an instant. Also, it has been stated that Vegito knows all of Goku and Vegata's moves. Have you ever seen or read DBZ, at all?

5.We all know that act idiocy was not on Vegito's part but on the creators of the anime. Plus, he wasn't even Vegito anymore when they all died, It was just Goku. Can you give me another example?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
This is a dub line that is wrong, read the manga.

Also even if TTGL was the same size as Vegito it would still win due to the fact that it can regenerate infinitely and change probability. So we are going to go by the manga for one character even though he's fightin' someone who doesn't have a manga version...yet. Sounds kinda unfair to me.

So TTGL can survive being incinerated. If so, let me know cuz I haven't seen that.

Tengen definitely wins this easily.

Anti-spiral did not create the alternate realities though, he simply trapped the heroes within them. If he created the alternate realities then he would be capable of creating countless universes, which would put him way over the Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

Can you name me a time Vegeto has tried to lock onto a humans ki with within an even larger amount of energy?You have no evidence that Vegeto is capable of this, only that he has never tried.




If you know he can hop from galaxy to galaxy why do you think it would take years for his fist to reach Vegeto? I think you're clutching at straws here.

These fights aren't supposed to fair. This isn't a sport.



You claimed Vegeto was better because he had 'ability' which Anti spiral lacked. I pointed out that Vegeto did nothing in his limited appearance, killing your argument.



Yet he never used half of them. Why should he suddenly decide to use them now? We're using the Vegeto who appeared in the show/manga not Vegeto as written by you.



Considering I summed up Vegeto's entire appearance in my post, no. Tell you what tell me when Vegeto did something smart.



Let me know when Vegeto can put out energy greater than the big bang.

If you are talking Janemba then he is really nothing specail in general since he only uses his RW powers in Hell, and we don't know if he can do it outside it or not. Even TTGL was smaller down then it still has a better chance on winning.

TTGL picking a fight with Vegito would be like me picking a fight with a germ. This fight isn't fair in anyway and might as well get closed (I'm surprised it hasn't even been done yet).

Ya'know, I see this will never go anywhere because people are ignoring the point I'm trying to make and I really don't feel like arguing over what anime character can beat who anymore. I will state my central point/OPINION and be done with this...

Idk who will win because 1 character is like a trillion times larger than the other and the smaller guy has never been seen anywhere near full power, for all I know Vegito's Kamehameha could destroy the universe, Idk. There for "I" as in "ME", Overdose is not sure about who will win.

If anyone has problems wit that, then go find a shrink to vent to.

If only someone like me had countered your every point. Damn that would of been nice.



Far be it from to copy Endless Mike, but I think it fits here. No limits fallacy.



Translated: Everyone who argues against me is a sad person Yes we have been defeated. Damn us for disagreeing with someone on a versus forum!

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
If only someone like me had countered your every point. Damn that would of been nice. ???!!!
Dude, chill, you aint gotta act like some "Great Debator Jackass Tuff Guy". You can think that what you put forth were "counters" all you want, I don't care.I think they were wrong. I never said Vegito WOULD do anything. I was simply throwin' out ideas that MAYBE there was some things he COULD do in this battle. So chill, man. Being a smart ass only creates unnecessary tension and there's enough of that around here.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Far be it from to copy Endless Mike, but I think it fits here. No limits fallacy.
This only proves that your ignorin' my point cuz you wanna have a fight or somthin'. I never said "Since I have never seen Vegito at full power his power is limitless. I just said I don't know how strong he is, he can be weaker than Krillin for all I know. But if you think that me thinkin' Vegito is a limitless god and that you some how defeated that opinion and made it seem stupid, if that brightened your day, Then go ahead...I wouldn't wanna take shot at your self esteem, friend.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Translated: Everyone who argues against me is a sad person Yes we have been defeated. Damn us for disagreeing with someone on a versus forum! Ya'know, you do have the right to disagree wit me and that's awesome. But sometimes maybe once every thousand years a man will arise to simply state an opinion and disappear or in this case a ask rhetorical question and dissapper and that's suppose to be okay too. I'm sorry that this is so serious to you that you must fend off every comment you don't like.

People wit opinions different from yours, the scourge of mankind I tell'ya. KILL THEM ALL!!!