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Now this should be a good battle.

Prob Sassy.

I'm guessing Sasquatch could just cut him up with the claws and bleed him out like he did to She-Hulk.

Yeah...Walter is pretty damn smart and could easly figure out how SS powers work.

Shaw, pretty hard.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Shaw, pretty hard. Walter don't have to use his punches to stop him. He can slice him with his claws imo.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Walter don't have to use his punches to stop him. He can slice him with his claws imo.

Shaw would absorb it.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Walter don't have to use his punches to stop him. He can slice him with his claws imo.

He took Adamantium claws to the back of the neck with no real ill effect.

Maybe, maybe not.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Maybe, maybe not.

No, he would absorb it.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Maybe, maybe not.

While you're here, has your photobucket been deleted? I was looking for a few speed feats of Blade for another thread here, but none of them worked.

Sh1t, I forgot about that. Anybody have scans of that I haven't seen it in awhile but I recall Shaw tooling Logan but don't remember him taking a slash.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
While you're here, has your photobucket been deleted? I was looking for a few speed feats of Blade for another thread here, but none of them worked.
Moves out of the way of an attack and is at his oppenents back before she knows he's not even there:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladefaster.jpg

Then after that with a gun to his back he knocked the weapon out of her hand:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladefaster2.jpg

Evades a Spitfire speedblitz and kicks her in the gut:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladedodge.jpg

After unexpectedly getting shot in leg by multiple machine gun fire Blade still has the speed to evade a barrage of machine gun bullets:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladespeedv21.jpg

Evades machinegun fire from a fairly close distance:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/BladespeedSOF.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/BladespeedSOF2.jpg

Ducks under a point blank gun shot after it was fired and slices the vamps gunhand off:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladeducks.jpg

Acts with speed and a lethal attack:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladesneaky.jpg

Slices up a vampire into 7 pieces and sheaths his sword before the vamp falls apart:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladeslicin.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladeslicin2.jpg

Blocks gunfire using a chain:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/BladespeedNS10.jpg

Catches Morbius while running across some rooftops:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladespeedfeat24.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladespeedfeat24-2.jpg

"he's too fast":
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/BladefastMSU2.jpg

Catches two knives tossed at him with ease:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladereflexes.jpg

Speed blitzes the Whiteworm:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladefast-1.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladefast2.jpg

Blade has "blinding speed and reflexes":
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladev2-02minorhealing.jpg

Evades multiple lazers:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/BladedodginBVH10.jpg

Bullet reaction feat here:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladebreakincuffs.jpg

Blade speedblitzed a large group of armed vampires:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladekickinss.jpg

Evades close machine gun fire and is stated to move like lightning:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladefast.jpg

Jumps so high the Shield agents thought he was flying:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladejumpin.jpg

Jumps out of a airplane and lands on his feat:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladejumps.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladejumps2.jpg

Jumps out a 3rd story window and lands on his feet:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladeroofjump.jpg

Jumps off the top of a good sized bulding and lands on his feet again:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20fights/BladevsgoulsMSU2.jpg

Closes a huge gap and kills a cop before he can pull the trigger:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladesmokin.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladev2-Bladesense.jpg

Steals a set of keys to his handcuffs without the cops even aware of it:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/Bladepickinlocks.jpg

Evades Spider-X's acid venom and X was said he was faster and more agile than Spider-Man:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/BladedodgeMSU3-1.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/BladedodgeMSU3-2-1.jpg

Evades machinegun fire from three vampires:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Blade%20Speed/BladespeedBVH.jpg

Moves out of the way of Pete Wisdom's hot knives regardless of Pete's comments if Blade hadn't sidestepped it would have hit dead on him instead of nicking him:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladeknowledge.jpg

You're the man now dawg!

If you're wondering it's a debate about Blade and Punisher vs Raven (Tekken) and Brian Fury (Tekken)

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You're the man now dawg!

If you're wondering it's a debate about Blade and Punisher vs Raven (Tekken) and Brian Fury (Tekken) I'm in the process of redoing the Blade thread that's why the links don't work anymore.

Good luck with that, I can't wait to see it.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You're the man now dawg!

If you're wondering it's a debate about Blade and Punisher vs Raven (Tekken) and Brian Fury (Tekken) BTW I'm not familiar with Tekken.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=519181&pagenumber=1

He jumps up a mountain (not in one leap) and cuts a robot in half in the blink of an eye.

9v4Oa9kATB0

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Sh1t, I forgot about that. Anybody have scans of that I haven't seen it in awhile but I recall Shaw tooling Logan but don't remember him taking a slash.

He was hurt and bleeding. Also Daken succeeded in stabbing him in the back.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7742/xmenlegacy218011ht0.th.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was hurt and bleeding. Also Daken succeeded in stabbing him in the back.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7742/xmenlegacy218011ht0.th.jpg

He was cut and stabbed, I don't know about being hurt. He doesn't seem to be in a lot of pain, just recognizing that he's bleeding and keeps on with the fight. He was stabbed in the back but that didn't really hurt him either as much as it did surprise him while getting thrown.

Yeah, that scan looked like he let go of Charles because of Wolverine hitting him. Then he felt his back and was like, Am I bleeding?

It didn't appear to bother him much though.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was hurt and bleeding. Also Daken succeeded in stabbing him in the back.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7742/xmenlegacy218011ht0.th.jpg What happens next again? That will tell us how much he was hurt.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He was cut and stabbed, I don't know about being hurt. He doesn't seem to be in a lot of pain, just recognizing that he's bleeding and keeps on with the fight. He was stabbed in the back but that didn't really hurt him either as much as it did surprise him while getting thrown.

If it hadn't hurt him, he wouldn't have let go of Xavier.

But let's assume he doesn't feel pain - what good would that do if Walter hit some vital area?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
If it hadn't hurt him, he wouldn't have let go of Xavier.

But let's assume he doesn't feel pain - what good would that do if Walter hit some vital area? Shaw probably worried about his suit.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What happens next again? That will tell us how much he was hurt.

Shaw continues fighting.

1. http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9792/xmenlegacy218015ok2.jpg
2. http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7461/xmenlegacy218016ym7.jpg

Logan did get free of his hold though and Shaw seemed a little nervous after the lights got turned off.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Shaw probably worried about his suit.

lulz

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Shaw continues fighting.

1. http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9792/xmenlegacy218015ok2.jpg
2. http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7461/xmenlegacy218016ym7.jpg

Logan did get free of his hold though and Shaw seemed a little nervous after the lights got turned off.



lulz Wow...Shaw was bad@ss right there. I'm guessing if he didn't have time to kill he might have taken the fight more seriously though.

sasquatch wins he is more then smart enough not to use a direct attack that shaw can absorb.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wow...Shaw was bad@ss right there. I'm guessing if he didn't have time to kill he might have taken the fight more seriously though.

After the lights go off, Shaw appears inside the house first and Wolverine eventually catches up. So I guess even that didn't help much. Somehow, daken was able to kick him out of a window. Makes no sense really. He stopped rogue flying straight at him and surprise shouldn't matter.

Actually it was Wolverine who got to Daken first. Shaw appears there again at the end of the next issue...

Anybody have the scan of Daken taking Shaw down?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Anybody have the scan of Daken taking Shaw down?

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8905/wo30dcp026.th.jpg http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4139/wo30dcp030.th.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8905/wo30dcp026.th.jpg http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4139/wo30dcp030.th.jpg Considering the circumstances that's feasible.

Interesting. It seems that the claws can at least cut him superficially. But the man has taken shots from Colossus without batting an eye. How does Daken kick him out of the window when that involves kinetic displacement which Shaw absorbs?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Actually it was Wolverine who got to Daken first. Shaw appears there again at the end of the next issue...

Aah yeah.

anyways, kicking Shaw out of a window shouldn't be possible. His body would absorb it.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Aah yeah.

anyways, kicking Shaw out of a window shouldn't be possible. His body would absorb it.

Whos says he didnt absorb it? Doesnt mean his body cant be moved upon impact.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Whos says he didnt absorb it? Doesnt mean his body cant be moved upon impact. Pretty much.

^^^He's taken punches from much stronger people without being sent flying. I guess even the son of Wolverine has his fathers plot device baddassery.

Maybe he has to brace himself for the impact? Frankly, I didn't like that either.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Whos says he didnt absorb it? Doesnt mean his body cant be moved upon impact.

That's not how it goes.

Then he would be moved by explosions, he would have moved when Rogue or Colossus charge into him or throw a punch. If he can still be moved then any punch thrown by someone stronger than class 5 would send him flying.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That's not how it goes.

Then he would be moved by explosions, he would have moved when Rogue or Colossus charge into him or throw a punch. If he can still be moved then any punch thrown by someone stronger than class 5 would send him flying.

Who says its not how it goes? Just because the person is moved upon impact doesnt meant they dont absorb it. I understand that he may have not moved in the past vs stronger opponents, but is him being moved whats up for debate here? I thought it was him absorbing the claws?

Hell Daredevil has sent Namor flying with a punch. Someone sent flying or moving with a punch doesnt quite mean they took any damage or were hurt by the attack.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Who says its not how it goes? Just because the person is moved upon impact doesnt meant they dont absorb it. I understand that he may have not moved in the past vs stronger opponents, but is him being moved whats up for debate here? I thought it was him absorbing the claws?

Hell Daredevil has sent Namor flying with a punch. Someone sent flying or moving with a punch doesnt quite mean they took any damage or were hurt by the attack.

That's not the same, not in the least.

He absorbs kinetic energy. How can he be moved if he absorbs the kinetic energy?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That's not the same, not in the least.

He absorbs kinetic energy. How can he be moved if he absorbs the kinetic energy?

If the impact it strong, he will and should be moved no matter if he absorbs it or not. If he gets hit by a car or bus, will he not move?

Shaw absorbs kinetic energy. Kinetic energy is the work needed to accelerate a body of a given mass from rest to its current velocity. This energy is gained through acceleration.

If Sas grabs Shaws head and rips it off his shoulders, no kinetic energy can be absorbed, aside from the fact that Shaw won't have a head.

If you got a scientist with the physical attributes of Langkowski, I have no doubt that'll he'll be able to work around the Kinetic energy absorbtion problem proposed by Shaw.

Originally posted by jrodslam
If the impact it strong, he will and should be moved no matter if he absorbs it or not. If he gets hit by a car or bus, will he not move?

If he gets hit by a bus or a car he would not move.

He absorbs the kinetic impact. Do you realize what this means? How the hell can he be moved when he absorbs it?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
If he gets hit by a bus or a car he would not move.

He absorbs the kinetic impact. Do you realize what this means? How the hell can he be moved when he absorbs it? I think you may be on to something. I don't recall Shaw ever budging from a blow from somebody so weak.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
If he gets hit by a bus or a car he would not move.

He absorbs the kinetic impact. Do you realize what this means? How the hell can he be moved when he absorbs it?

Not buying it. Id love to see some kind of scan. I just cant see him not budging if he were to get hit by a bus.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/th_ShawvsRogue.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/th_ShawvsRogue2.jpg

I think that this may be one of thise times where the willing suspension of disbelief is required. No amount of "comic book science" will make sense of it.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Shaw/th_ShawvsRogueII.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Shaw/th_ShawvsRogueII2.jpg


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Shaw/th_ShawvsCannonbal.jpghttp://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Shaw/th_ShawvsSunspot-2.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2448/newmutants075pg12.th.jpghttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6696/newmutants075pg14.th.jpg

Even though Shaw lost that fight not many guys can hold their own against Magneto in a junk yard style setting.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Even though Shaw lost that fight not many guys can hold their own against Magneto in a junk yard style setting.

The fight doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The fight doesn't make any sense. It one of those bait and switch panels where the writer can't think of a way to down a character that makes logical sense, so they pull a Houdini and all of a sudden the character in question is magically defeated. Kinda like the Wolverine vs Sebastian fight where Wolverine was getting pwned and then all of a sudden the lights went out and all sorts of nonsense occurred. Or Wolverine vs Lobo years ago.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Even though Shaw lost that fight not many guys can hold their own against Magneto in a junk yard style setting.

I agree. Shaw did start it though. Good for his ass.

Originally posted by dmills
It one of those bait and switch panels where the writer can't think of a way to down a character that makes logical sense, so they pull a Houdini and all of a sudden the character in question is magically defeated. Kinda like the Wolverine vs Sebastian fight where Wolverine was getting pwned and then all of a sudden the lights went out and all sorts of nonsense occurred. Or Wolverine vs Lobo years ago.

Shaw was most likely overloaded with all that metal falling on top of him. Thats the only logical conclusion one can possibly come up with. They showed the metal on top of him/them, and then they showed Mags pulling him out.

^^^I guess so.

Shaw could not have been overloaded by a pile of metal. He can take several punches from guys like Colossus and powered up classic rogue.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Shaw could not have been overloaded by a pile of metal. He can take several punches from guys like Colossus and powered up classic rogue.

Not just metal, the Power of Magneto is behind it so give that a thought. Anyway seriously how the **** did Daken kick him out the window? I mean a toss or a trip or something that makes sense not a damn straight kick out the window. Does the Murasama blade do something to Shaw's powers?

Wasn't there a Shaw respect thread?

Originally posted by dmills
Wasn't there a Shaw respect thread? I'm working on that along with a Blob one.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The fight doesn't make any sense. Shaw did manage to get out of that encasment iirc.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Not just metal, the Power of Magneto is behind it so give that a thought. Anyway seriously how the **** did Daken kick him out the window? I mean a toss or a trip or something that makes sense not a damn straight kick out the window. Does the Murasama blade do something to Shaw's powers?

Daken didn't even have muramasa blade then. Not that it would matter anyway...

just trying to make some sense...

Maybe there were some other writers who ignored Shaw's immovability thing? Just wondering.

They had him walking through an explosion earlier, but like...

This is Shaw's thing. In practically all of his appearances does he take physical attacks to no effect. If only Daken had tripped him or used some sort of judo throw. Anything besides kicking him out.

Yeah, even in TAS he was completely unaffected by Rogue's blows and Cyke's blast.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, even in TAS he was completely unaffected by Rogue's blows and Cyke's blast. TAS is not canon

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, even in TAS he was completely unaffected by Rogue's blows and Cyke's blast. Really?

Originally posted by Starscream M
TAS is not canon Is that slang for a cartoon?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Is that slang for a cartoon? I assumed it meant the animated series

Originally posted by Starscream M
TAS is not canon

REALLY?! http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon5.gif Man, is it forbidden to even mention events from animated series in this forum...?

He was unaffected by punches from Rogue with She-Hulk power in comics... I can't remember what Cyke's blast did to him in Uncanny, but I don't recall him being pushed away. Maybe Scott destroyed the floor beneath him or something.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
REALLY?! http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon5.gif Man, is it forbidden to even mention events from animated series in this forum...?

He was unaffected by punches from Rogue with She-Hulk power in comics... I can't remember what Cyke's blast did to him in Uncanny, but I don't recall him being pushed away. Maybe Scott destroyed the floor beneath him or something. Got a Youtube link? Sounds cool. BTW I don't have a problem citing non-canon sources.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Got a Youtube link? Sounds cool. BTW I don't have a problem citing non-canon sources.

Just found it.

3:20 - 3:35 - Shaw owns Rogue

4:25 - 4:38 - Shaw owns Cyclops

qExn1dVbERI

But then he got trapped in ice. Boo.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
REALLY?! http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon5.gif Man, is it forbidden to even mention events from animated series in this forum...?

He was unaffected by punches from Rogue with She-Hulk power in comics... I can't remember what Cyke's blast did to him in Uncanny, but I don't recall him being pushed away. Maybe Scott destroyed the floor beneath him or something. It's not forbidden, but it is quite meaningless to do so.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just found it.

3:20 - 3:35 - Shaw owns Rogue

4:25 - 4:38 - Shaw owns Cyclops

qExn1dVbERI

Lol at Logan acting tough popping the claws saying he has enough for everyone.... meaning only robots.

Originally posted by Starscream M
It's not forbidden, but it is quite meaningless to do so.

Just wanted to point out that even in the TV series which wasn't 100% accurate, Shaw's powers still worked the way they did in the comics.

Originally posted by Spire
Lol at Logan acting tough popping the claws saying he has enough for everyone.... meaning only robots.

He owned Leland later, though

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just wanted to point out that even in the TV series which wasn't 100% accurate, Shaw's powers still worked the way they did in the comics.

I know, I was just busting your chops.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just found it.

3:20 - 3:35 - Shaw owns Rogue

4:25 - 4:38 - Shaw owns Cyclops

qExn1dVbERI That's awesome.