Darkseid- (95-150) his showings can be poor but seeing as PC feats are still technically canon because he wasn't effected by the Crisis his full power is far above what DD has shown.
Thanos- 100 (I'd say they're about even)
Mangog- Can't give a real estimate due to lack of knowledge but the way ppl talk about him I'd guess 110
Black Adam-90
Kurse- ?
Orion-90
Prime-135
Wonder Woman-80
Despero-100
War Hulk- 90
Juggernaut- 95
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Darkseid- (95-150) his showings can be poor but seeing as PC feats are still technically canon because he wasn't effected by the Crisis his full power is far above what DD has shown.
Thanos- 100 (I'd say they're about even)
Mangog- Can't give a real estimate due to lack of knowledge but the way ppl talk about him I'd guess 110
Black Adam-90
Kurse- ?
Orion-90
Prime-135
Wonder Woman-80
Despero-100
War Hulk- 90
Juggernaut- 95
So, you feel like DS is stronger than Prime, Thanos & Mangog at peak PC levels. I'm curious.. which feats or what are you basing this on for DS?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So, you feel like DS is stronger than Prime, Thanos & Mangog at peak PC levels. I'm curious.. which feats or what are you basing this on for DS?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Darkseid- (95-150) his showings can be poor but seeing as PC feats are still technically canon because he wasn't effected by the Crisis his full power is far above what DD has shown.
Thanos- 100 (I'd say they're about even)
Mangog- Can't give a real estimate due to lack of knowledge but the way ppl talk about him I'd guess 110
Black Adam-90
Kurse- ?
Orion-90
Prime-135
Wonder Woman-80
Despero-100
War Hulk- 90
Juggernaut- 95
Despero and juggs>WWH??
Re: Re: If Doomsday is a 100 in terms of raw strength
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
H/P DDDarkseid 85
Thanos 75
Mangog, hmm dunno too much 'bout him, an entire race in one being or so, 80?
BA 74
Kurse 70
Orion 86
Prime 150+
WW 74
Despero 80
War Hulk (medium level i.e. not starting but obviously not full potential) 70
Juggs 73
orion is stronger than BA/WW?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think the general rule is that in terms of pure strength alone Orion>99% of the DCU but he's not physically stronger than Darkseid, that's been shown time and time again.
loads are as strong as him and several srtronger
peers/equals:
mongul
BA/CM
WW
MM
SG
Lobo
Superior:
Brainiac
Despero
SM
DS
DD
Imperiex
Originally posted by ankur29
loads are as strong as him and several srtrongerpeers/equals:
mongul
BA/CM
WW
MM
SG
LoboSuperior:
Brainiac
Despero
SM
DS
DD
Imperiex
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Orion has been portrayed as stronger than Wonder Woman and Superman and by extension stronger than Lobo though I don't think they've ever met. Same goes for Martian Manhunter. Mongul never seemed to be very strong post-crisis though he has his moments. I don't think that Imperiex, Darkseid, Despero, (maybe) Brainiac, and Doomsday counts as "Loads" of characters. He's in the elite in terms of strength.
stronger than SM?
SM beats DS regularly yet orion doesnt
Orion is top tier in terms of strength but he is ofe the many that are called 'as strong superman'