Kenpachi vs Six Tailed Naruto

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danteiscool
Kenpachi has his eyepatch off and is using both hands (kendo. damn Kenpachi sure knows how to make people go WTF at times. wonder how much damage he can do like that to Yammy.) for this fight.

fight takes place in estroyed Konoha, just like when Naruto fought Pain.

EvilAngel
Six Tail's has no real feat. Nothing we can us in this fight

Plus this match has too many unknowns. Do date nothing has hurt 4 tails Kyuubi or above. So much that it was made to be a point of showing us that even the grasscutter longsword can't damage him.

NemeBro
Kenpachi wins because I like Kenpachi and since Six Tailed has no feats I don't feel like an idiot saying Kenny wins. 131

EvilAngel
You're probably right, As i see it Kenny probably can't hurt the Six tails much if at all. But the Six tail's isn't getting ahold of Kenny anyway.

NemeBro
To be honest.

Why?

Why can Kenpachi not hurt it?

Based on actual durability feats, Nnoitra is far more durable.

dadudemon
Originally posted by NemeBro
To be honest.

Why?

Why can Kenpachi not hurt it?

Based on actual durability feats, Nnoitra is far more durable.


Really? I am not sure. Kenpachi can be cut by someone who can cut through a building. However, Naruto has never been cut, and the force of the "stab" was so strong that it smash Naruto through the ground in the forest and it still didn't pierce his flesh.

I'd say that that's a good durability feat: greater than Kenpachi's.


Also, Naruto released a blast that (if we can use the expanded view form the anime) made deep blast craters that extended for miles and miles. (That was the largest destruction feat in Naruto....if we use the expanded "down the barrel" view in the anime.)

Nemebro and I have argued this before (Naruto's blast), but maybe some fresh minds could shed some additional logic on this.

EvilAngel
Originally posted by dadudemon
Really? I am not sure. Kenpachi can be cut by someone who can cut through a building. However, Naruto has never been cut, and the force of the "stab" was so strong that it smash Naruto through the ground in the forest and it still didn't pierce his flesh.

I'd say that that's a good durability feat: greater than Kenpachi's.


Also, Naruto released a blast that (if we can use the expanded view form the anime) made deep blast craters that extended for miles and miles. (That was the largest destruction feat in Naruto....if we use the expanded "down the barrel" view in the anime.)

Nemebro and I have argued this before (Naruto's blast), but maybe some fresh minds could shed some additional logic on this.

What about Naruto's blast? What part did you guys disagree on?




Nnoitra's durability feats are somewhat overhyped. He's only resisted the attacks of Chad (.....nuff said) and a worn out, half dead Ichigo maskless (*coughs*)

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by dadudemon
Really? I am not sure. Kenpachi can be cut by someone who can cut through a building. However, Naruto has never been cut, and the force of the "stab" was so strong that it smash Naruto through the ground in the forest and it still didn't pierce his flesh.

I'd say that that's a good durability feat: greater than Kenpachi's.


Also, Naruto released a blast that (if we can use the expanded view form the anime) made deep blast craters that extended for miles and miles. (That was the largest destruction feat in Naruto....if we use the expanded "down the barrel" view in the anime.)

Nemebro and I have argued this before (Naruto's blast), but maybe some fresh minds could shed some additional logic on this.

It was from the anime, so it's debatable as to whether the view was canon or not. The attack was immensely destructive though.

The power of the attack is proportional to the current power of the beast, and could perhaps depend on how much chakra said beast puts into an attack.

The version that Kirabi used was the most destructive attack we've seen if you ask me. That attack destroyed most of the valley and dwarfed the surrounding mountains.
Suigetsu protected the entire team though was incapacitated. Pretty good feat on his end if you ask me.

NemeBro
Originally posted by dadudemon
Really? I am not sure. Kenpachi can be cut by someone who can cut through a building. However, Naruto has never been cut, and the force of the "stab" was so strong that it smash Naruto through the ground in the forest and it still didn't pierce his flesh.

I'd say that that's a good durability feat: greater than Kenpachi's.


Also, Naruto released a blast that (if we can use the expanded view form the anime) made deep blast craters that extended for miles and miles. (That was the largest destruction feat in Naruto....if we use the expanded "down the barrel" view in the anime.)

Nemebro and I have argued this before (Naruto's blast), but maybe some fresh minds could shed some additional logic on this. Kenpachi did not just "cut through a building." His sword did not even physically touch the building, he sliced in its direction, and it was sliced in half. He also recently showed sufficient physical strength to kick a large slab of stone hundreds of meters away with enough force to shatter on impact of Yammy. Kenpachi also sliced Yammy's leg clean off, compared to Hollow Ichigo (However weakened his Hollow form was, no reason to think he was weaker than normal Bankai Ichigo) whose Getsuga Tensho barely scratched him.

Nnoitra apparently has even greater durability than Yammy, Kenpachi sliced Yammy's leg off with his eyepatch on.

Also, you are overrated the force of the Kusanagi sword.

Also, miles and miles? erm

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/12/

In the third scan we can CLEARLY see where it ends, considering all the intact trees behind the crater. erm

Edit: The most destructive feat in Naruto belongs to either Killer Bee in his full Hachibi form, or Pain using Chibaku Tensei.

King Kandy
Kirabi has the best destruction feat, but we know that Pain could have used a larger Chibaku, so he had the potential for greater destruction imo.

Demonic Phoenix
^ The same could go for Kirabi as well. Considering the attack's power increases based on how much chakra you put into it (there must be an upper limit, though I sincerely doubt Kirabi reached his), his potential is immense.

dadudemon
Originally posted by NemeBro
Kenpachi did not just "cut through a building." His sword did not even physically touch the building, he sliced in its direction, and it was sliced in half..


I'm the one who told that to you in a previous debate we had. awehawe





Originally posted by NemeBro
He also recently showed sufficient physical strength to kick a large slab of stone hundreds of meters away with enough force to shatter on impact of Yammy..

While he did kick that large slab, it shattered because Yammy Bruce Lee smash it, right out of the air with a back-hand fist.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kenpachi also sliced Yammy's leg clean off, compared to Hollow Ichigo (However weakened his Hollow form was, no reason to think he was weaker than normal Bankai Ichigo) whose Getsuga Tensho barely scratched him.

No no, I agree. Something was wrong with Ichigo, though. The Getsuga Tenshou had some force behind it, but it had very little cutting power. It was as though Ichigo had a hard time focusing his powers...similar to his fight with Kenpachi. Ichigo is messed up. I'd say that Yammy's hierro is not as strong as #5's.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Nnoitra apparently has even greater durability than Yammy, Kenpachi sliced Yammy's leg off with his eyepatch on.

He did?

*looks up the scan*

Sure enough, you're correct.

http://img12.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/9/42-379.0/compressed/pbleach379_22_23.jpg







Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, you are overrated the force of the Kusanagi sword.

It's supposed to be WTF UBER PWNAGE!, but, yeah, it's possible that I am overestimating it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, miles and miles? erm

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/12/

In the third scan we can CLEARLY see where it ends, considering all the intact trees behind the crater. erm

Then, yeah, the anime made the feat miles and miles...which is greater than the manga.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Edit: The most destructive feat in Naruto belongs to either Killer Bee in his full Hachibi form, or Pain using Chibaku Tensei.


No, you're correct. It really is the Chibaku Tensei.

http://img09.tx.us.mangafox.com/store/manga/8/47-439.0/compressed/naruto_439_sleepyfans.06_07.jpg


That's on a larger scale than Nartuo's blast and Kirabi's thing.

EvilAngel
Originally posted by NemeBro

Also, miles and miles? erm

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/12/

In the third scan we can CLEARLY see where it ends, considering all the intact trees behind the crater. erm


Can i just point out something that is obvious to me but everyone else seems to be missing it.

Orochimaru summons the triple gates right?

The blast utterly annihalates them but, gets spilt into two and diverted.

In scan: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/11/ we can see it atleast goes futher than the creator Naruto's in is.

In the scan http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/12/ the tree's behind Orochimaru are there because before them the attack got split in two. In the second picture of the page we can't see how far the attack's impact goes on for....

Just an observation on my part

dadudemon
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Can i just point out something that is obvious to me but everyone else seems to be missing it.

Orochimaru summons the triple gates right?

The blast utterly annihalates them but, gets spilt into two and diverted.

In scan: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/11/ we can see it atleast goes futher than the creator Naruto's in is.

In the scan http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/12/ the tree's behind Orochimaru are there because before them the attack got split in two. In the second picture of the page we can't see how far the attack's impact goes on for....

Just an observation on my part

Yeah, forgot about that.

But just how much energy did those gates absorb? I would still put it on scale with Pain's destruction of Konoha. Maybe a third of the size...

But, if those gates absorbed a large portion of that attack, that attack could have actually be much more monstrous than we think.



That makes sense since the 9-Tails is supposed to be able to create tidal waves with a swipe of his arm. Also, Naruto was only 4-tails at the time.

NemeBro
DDM, hope you do not mind that I am ignoring your post, since you mostly just agreed with me, except for on a few minor and virtually irrelevant details.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Can i just point out something that is obvious to me but everyone else seems to be missing it.

Orochimaru summons the triple gates right?

The blast utterly annihalates them but, gets spilt into two and diverted.

In scan: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/11/ we can see it atleast goes futher than the creator Naruto's in is.

In the scan http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/12/ the tree's behind Orochimaru are there because before them the attack got split in two. In the second picture of the page we can't see how far the attack's impact goes on for....

Just an observation on my part On the topic of the first scan...How can we see that? Because the smoke goes further? The actual blast was not shown to.

It did split in two, you are very right about that, but we can see nearly all of what is behind the crater (Trees), what we cannot see is covered by a small amount of smoke.

The attack was not shown to be that destructive compared to Shinra Tensei at full power, although they are not similar in what they do, Kyuubi's attack was an explosion of chakra, Shinrai Tensei is basically a giant force push that in that case was able to flatten a village. Chibaku Tensei was stronger than both, same with Hachibi's blast.

EvilAngel
I honestly wouldn't know how to argue that attack X by character Z is more powerful than attack B by character A unless they attacked the same thing.

So not trying to say it's more powerful than anything else, i'm just pointing out it might be being underestimated.

Those trees cover the far left and right sides of the picture which if you look at previous scans you can see the angle in which the two blasts got redirected is quite big.

Originally posted by dadudemon

But, if those gates absorbed a large portion of that attack, that attack could have actually be much more monstrous than we think.

Chakra based metal gates of this size?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/295/08-09/


..... I think it's easy to assume correctly that an enourmous amount of force was absorbed. Also note after the attack the gates were utterly obliterated, nothing left of them.

EvilAngel
You know i just thought of something

Doesn't Ulquiorra have better feats than Nnoitra for Heirro?

yungz22
Originally posted by EvilAngel
You know i just thought of something

Doesn't Ulquiorra have better feats than Nnoitra for Heirro?
yes mam

yungz22
Kenpachi's reiatsu is bijuu level(sarcasm)

Demonic Phoenix
By Bleach's standards, that's "true" stick out tongue.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
You know i just thought of something

Doesn't Ulquiorra have better feats than Nnoitra for Heirro?

I thought he just proclaimed he had the strongest hierro? Similar to how Zommomari (sp?) proclaimed that he was the fastest.

EvilAngel
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
By Bleach's standards, that's "true" stick out tongue.



I thought he just proclaimed he had the strongest hierro? Similar to how Zommomari (sp?) proclaimed that he was the fastest.

Nnoitra did say that, but let's face his, he's a braggart.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/346/16/

Ulquiorra fley through Vizard Ichigo's GT without there being a mark on him.

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Nnoitra did say that, but let's face his, he's a braggart.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/346/16/

Ulquiorra fley through Vizard Ichigo's GT without there being a mark on him.

That was my point actually >__>. Him proclaiming it doesn't mean it is true.

d3str0ya10
Kenpachi would WRECK HIM! if he puts two hands on his sword, takes his eye patch off and gets PISSED OFF he,ll kill it in an instant HAHA this is a joke.

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