Originally posted by Colossus-Big CI have a theory concerning the match ups between CM and Supes............i think cap only appears to be stronger than supes in H2H because of supes special weakness to magic.
1.Doomsday-twice as strong than supes
2.DC Herculese- he beat superman
3.Captain marvel-stronger than superman
4.Superman
5.Darkseid
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I don't believe CM have the strength feats of supes and cannot beat many of the high powered people that supes have put down.
Just my MHO. would like to hear what others think,
Superman is not weakened by magic. He can simply be hurt by it.
It's not kryptonite or anything.
Captain Marvel is able to go toe to toe with Superman simply because he's physically equal to Superman. It just happens that the source of his abilities is magic, much like the source of Superman's abilities is solar energy. Nothing more nothing less.
But, in a straight punch up with nothing else, the good Capn has the comfortable edge because he can magically amp up his punches. Doing more to Supes than vice versa.
Marvel has also beaten down high powered guys that Superman has struggled with such as Bizarro and Grundy.
As for who's the strongest? I'd like to think Darkseid at his strongest (pre crisis?) >>>> everyone else on the list.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Superman is not weakened by magic. He can simply be hurt by it.
It's not kryptonite or anything.Captain Marvel is able to go toe to toe with Superman simply because he's physically equal to Superman. It just happens that the source of his abilities is magic, much like the source of Superman's abilities is solar energy. Nothing more nothing less.
Yes but SBP and Black Adam's fight would have me believe he can magically charge his punches so that it affects Superman magically.
Re: who's stronger in the DCU
Originally posted by Placidity
Seems to me you were saying magic only boosts Marvel physically, and the magic itself isn't there to affect Superman.
Well yes, obviously. He's not casting a spell on Superman. He's simply magically amping up his already Superman level punches so that it hurts Superman more.