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Superman
Darkseid
Captain Marvel
Doomsday

1.Doomsday-twice as strong than supes
2.DC Herculese- he beat superman
3.Captain marvel-stronger than superman
4.Superman
5.Darkseid
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1251516515162165251616515156. Bane

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
1.Doomsday-twice as strong than supes
2.DC Herculese- he beat superman
3.Captain marvel-stronger than superman
4.Superman
5.Darkseid
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1251516515162165251616515156. Bane When did that happen?

of the four I'd say DD

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
1.Doomsday-twice as strong than supes
2.DC Herculese- he beat superman
3.Captain marvel-stronger than superman
4.Superman
5.Darkseid
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1251516515162165251616515156. Bane I

Originally posted by lawest9
When did that happen? He doesn't know what he's talking about.

I'd say Superman due to feats.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
1.Doomsday-twice as strong than supes
2.DC Herculese- he beat superman
3.Captain marvel-stronger than superman
4.Superman
5.Darkseid
v
v
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1251516515162165251616515156. Bane I have a theory concerning the match ups between CM and Supes............i think cap only appears to be stronger than supes in H2H because of supes special weakness to magic.

I don't believe CM have the strength feats of supes and cannot beat many of the high powered people that supes have put down.

Just my MHO. would like to hear what others think,

Superman is not weakened by magic. He can simply be hurt by it.
It's not kryptonite or anything.

Captain Marvel is able to go toe to toe with Superman simply because he's physically equal to Superman. It just happens that the source of his abilities is magic, much like the source of Superman's abilities is solar energy. Nothing more nothing less.

But, in a straight punch up with nothing else, the good Capn has the comfortable edge because he can magically amp up his punches. Doing more to Supes than vice versa.

Marvel has also beaten down high powered guys that Superman has struggled with such as Bizarro and Grundy.

As for who's the strongest? I'd like to think Darkseid at his strongest (pre crisis?) >>>> everyone else on the list.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Superman is not weakened by magic. He can simply be hurt by it.
It's not kryptonite or anything.

Captain Marvel is able to go toe to toe with Superman simply because he's physically equal to Superman. It just happens that the source of his abilities is magic, much like the source of Superman's abilities is solar energy. Nothing more nothing less.


Yes but SBP and Black Adam's fight would have me believe he can magically charge his punches so that it affects Superman magically.

Originally posted by iceman24567
He doesn't know what he's talking about.

Hercules is the source of captain marvels strength
H= strength of herculese.

and cap is greater or equal to superman in strength

Originally posted by lawest9
Superman
Darkseid
Captain Marvel
Doomsday

Well, your question is very broad.

DS is the strongest New God.

Captain Marvel is the Mightiest Man in the World.

Superman is the strongest Kryptonian there is...

DD is the Ultimate Krytonian Killing Machine...

Here are some scans.

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1639/captainmarvel.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/286/darkseid.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5743/doomsdayz.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8831/superman.jpg

Originally posted by Placidity
Yes but SBP and Black Adam's fight would have me believe he can magically charge his punches so that it affects Superman magically.

That's what I said in the rest of my post.

Darkseid
Doomsday
Superman
Cap Marvel

Doomsday
Superman
Darkseid
Cap Marvel

CM is one of the many guys with comparable strength to SM
he is stronger than hercules as he has teh power of zeus aswell

i wish he had more strength feats although he did help SM lift the book with infinite pages and therefore infinite mass...

1. doomsday.

the rest i see as roughly equal where physical strength is concerned.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That's what I said in the rest of my post.

Seems to me you were saying magic only boosts Marvel physically, and the magic itself isn't there to affect Superman.

Originally posted by Placidity
Seems to me you were saying magic only boosts Marvel physically, and the magic itself isn't there to affect Superman.

Well yes, obviously. He's not casting a spell on Superman. He's simply magically amping up his already Superman level punches so that it hurts Superman more.

Thats not what I was saying though... I'm saying that in addition to amplified strength, there also the essence of magic that affects Superman. The example I used was BA vs SBP.