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This excludes Silver Surfer, he has recent showings that even put him above the high herald chart.

Powerlevels has changed over the years; some people became more powerful and some people stayed the same and some gotten weaker.

Beta Ray Bill has clearly became more powerful.

The challenge is, can someone prove that anyone from the high herald list is more powerful than beta ray bill.

You can use scans within the 5 yr range.

Here is my scan.

Survives a sun going super nova, didnt even feel it and flew out of it without too much trouble.

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0542/Stormbreaker_02_03-04
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0542/Stormbreaker_02_03-04

Survives a planet destroy blast and doesnt even register it.

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7517/img021.jpg
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3527/img022k.jpg

Damage something as durable as galactus hull with a blast (test of energy powers).

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8775/stormbreaker0119bz0.jpg

Physically destroys a planet.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

SS is still high herald because he still can't beat all high herald, but he is top 5.
Superman, Orion, MM, Hal would beat him

Originally posted by carver9
This excludes Silver Surfer, he has recent showings that even put him above the high herald chart.

Powerlevels has changed over the years; some people became more powerful and some people stayed the same and some gotten weaker.

Beta Ray Bill has clearly became more powerful.

The challenge is, can someone prove that anyone from the high herald list is more powerful than beta ray bill.

You can use scans within the 5 yr range.

Here is my scan.

Survives a sun going super nova, didnt even feel it and flew out of it without too much trouble.

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0542/Stormbreaker_02_03-04
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0542/Stormbreaker_02_03-04

Survives a planet destroy blast and doesnt even register it.

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7517/img021.jpg
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3527/img022k.jpg

Damage something as durable as galactus hull with a blast (test of energy powers).

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8775/stormbreaker0119bz0.jpg

Physically destroys a planet.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

Provide scans to prove your case.

Then I guess I only have to beat those scan to proof Superman beats him, or show better scans?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
SS is still high herald because he still can't beat all high herald, but he is top 5.
Superman, Orion, MM, Hal would beat him

Can you please provide scans. I couldnt edit my post so I added it up above.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Then I guess I only have to beat those scan to proof Superman beats him, or show better scans?

That would be nice. You dont have to prove that he beats him but you can show something within the durability/power output/hitting force range.

Originally posted by carver9
That would be nice. You dont have to prove that he beats him but you can show something within the durability/power output/hitting force range.
Fair enough, I will try to get some scans down soon

This is directly from his Respect Thread
Speed:
http://img519.imageshack.us/i/lightspeedot9.jpg/
http://img509.imageshack.us/i/lightspeed2vm5.jpg/
Strength:
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/megadon1en9.jpg/
http://img442.imageshack.us/i/megadon2zv0.jpg/

Planet shattering punches
http://img394.imageshack.us/i/supermanpunchfy2.jpg/

Durability:
Survives two 2x planet explosion
http://img359.imageshack.us/i/deathofthenewgods080260co1.jpg/

Energy Absorption:
http://img371.imageshack.us/i/13pm9.jpg/
http://img256.imageshack.us/i/supermanabsorbselectricbr0.jpg/
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/2000/img00012gl.jpg

I'll post more later

Originally posted by carver9
This excludes Silver Surfer, he has recent showings that even put him above the high herald chart.

Powerlevels has changed over the years; some people became more powerful and some people stayed the same and some gotten weaker.

Beta Ray Bill has clearly became more powerful.

The challenge is, can someone prove that anyone from the high herald list is more powerful than beta ray bill.

You can use scans within the 5 yr range.

Here is my scan.

Survives a sun going super nova, didnt even feel it and flew out of it without too much trouble.

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0542/Stormbreaker_02_03-04
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0542/Stormbreaker_02_03-04

Survives a planet destroy blast and doesnt even register it.

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/7517/img021.jpg
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3527/img022k.jpg

Damage something as durable as galactus hull with a blast (test of energy powers).

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8775/stormbreaker0119bz0.jpg

Physically destroys a planet.

http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/2520/stormbreaker0308io5.jpg
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/305/stormbreaker0309dg2.jpg

any chance you can post the actual supernove feat for the first example? that one scan doesn't show anything except him getting a tan.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
This is directly from his Respect Thread
Speed:
http://img519.imageshack.us/i/lightspeedot9.jpg/
http://img509.imageshack.us/i/lightspeed2vm5.jpg/
Strength:
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/megadon1en9.jpg/
http://img442.imageshack.us/i/megadon2zv0.jpg/

Planet shattering punches
http://img394.imageshack.us/i/supermanpunchfy2.jpg/

Durability:
Survives two 2x planet explosion
http://img359.imageshack.us/i/deathofthenewgods080260co1.jpg/

Energy Absorption:
http://img371.imageshack.us/i/13pm9.jpg/
http://img256.imageshack.us/i/supermanabsorbselectricbr0.jpg/
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/2000/img00012gl.jpg

I'll post more later

The only scan that you presented that made any sense was the durability feat and I love that scan, been looking for it for the longest to prove something to a friend of mine, thanks.

Mag feat, one dumb already owned that feat.

Punching with planet destroying strength, hyperbole. If we accept hyperbole then I can present that scan stating that gladiator is one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

Energy absorption, I agree with supes doing that, especially depending on the type of energy it is.

Originally posted by carver9
The only scan that you presented that made any sense was the durability feat and I love that scan, been looking for it for the longest to prove something to a friend of mine, thanks.

Mag feat, one dumb already owned that feat.

Punching with planet destroying strength, hyperbole. If we accept hyperbole then I can present that scan stating that gladiator is one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

Energy absorption, I agree with supes doing that, especially depending on the type of energy it is.

maggedon feat is a strength feat, whether you like it or not.

Originally posted by -Pr-
any chance you can post the actual supernove feat for the first example? that one scan doesn't show anything except him getting a tan.

Yeah, wait a min.

Originally posted by -Pr-
maggedon feat is a strength feat, whether you like it or not.

I agree, it is a strength feat but its not where you all are putting it. Why are we just talking about superman when there are numerous of high heralds.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, it is a strength feat but its not where you all are putting it. Why are we just talking about superman when there are numerous of high heralds.

JLX brought up Superman, and you replied, so i'm replying to you.

It is where we're putting it, in our opinion. which is just as valid as yours or ODG's.

Originally posted by -Pr-
JLX brought up Superman, and you replied, so i'm replying to you.

It is where we're putting it, in our opinion. which is just as valid as yours or ODG's.

I agree with the opinion comment, cant argue against that. I'll be back with that scan.

Superman isn't in HH anymore, same goes for SS and Thor.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Superman isn't in HH anymore, same goes for SS and Thor.
No, higher?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, higher?

No, not on the list.

Why not?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Why not?

Well go and have a look.

Originally posted by -Pr-
any chance you can post the actual supernove feat for the first example? that one scan doesn't show anything except him getting a tan.

The only reason he was koed was due to galactus knocking him out but here is the rest of the scan you asked for.

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0342/Stormbreaker_02_07

Originally posted by carver9
The only reason he was koed was due to galactus knocking him out but here is the rest of the scan you asked for.

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0342/Stormbreaker_02_07
SO you lied?

I wonder why Silver Surfer isnt in the high herald list anymore when he has the feats proving that he is a high herald by far.

They need to change the list due to recent powerlevel updates.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
SO you lied?

About what?

On the first scan it stated that the sun was exploding and he was in the heart of the sun.

Thats pretty impresive for BRB. We wasn't even struggling against the supernova, he was actually even paying attention to something else and left at will inside a supernova... dang thats pretty good.

It didn't even look like he was in the sun.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
SS is still high herald because he still can't beat all high herald, but he is top 5.
Superman, Orion, MM, Hal would beat him

So, tell me JL.. who do you feel are these HH you speak of that beat SS?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It didn't even look like he was in the sun.

Dude he was totally in. You can especially see that when he decides to fly away to his people. He comes right out of the Supernova.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It didn't even look like he was in the sun.

It looked like it didn't even explode by the time he left. ermm

Went to the Tiers section.. No SS or Superman or SS what is the deal?

Originally posted by batdude123
It looked like it didn't even explode by the time he left. ermm

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z154/geezba/Wurd.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
It looked like it didn't even explode by the time he left. ermm

I'm in love with your avatar

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm in love with your avatar

Me too.

Originally posted by batdude123
It looked like it didn't even explode by the time he left. ermm

The scan said that the sun was exploding.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
This is directly from his Respect Thread
Speed:
http://img519.imageshack.us/i/lightspeedot9.jpg/
http://img509.imageshack.us/i/lightspeed2vm5.jpg/
Strength:
http://img525.imageshack.us/i/megadon1en9.jpg/
http://img442.imageshack.us/i/megadon2zv0.jpg/

Planet shattering punches
http://img394.imageshack.us/i/supermanpunchfy2.jpg/

Durability:
Survives two 2x planet explosion
http://img359.imageshack.us/i/deathofthenewgods080260co1.jpg/

Energy Absorption:
http://img371.imageshack.us/i/13pm9.jpg/
http://img256.imageshack.us/i/supermanabsorbselectricbr0.jpg/
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/2000/img00012gl.jpg

I'll post more later get better scans

Originally posted by psycho gundam
get better scans
I don't have many with Superman.

I should find the ones with him breaking the universal barrier and stuff but it was short notice

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I don't have many with Superman.

I should find the ones with him breaking the universal barrier and stuff but it was short notice

So basically you dont have anything comparable to what I put up. You use feats that has no weight.

How much strength did it take to break through that universal barrier and is it within a 5 yr time span bc thats what was stated in the opening of my post?

LAWL at 5 year time span.

Originally posted by Spire
LAWL at 5 year time span.

Whats funny about it since the characters power levels has changed along with DC updating there writers, etc.....

If the characters is as powerful as a person make them out to be then it shouldnt be hard to find feats for them within a 5yr time span.

Hell, I bet if I included surfer in this thread naija would come in here and own it.

Originally posted by carver9
Whats funny about it since the characters power levels has changed along with DC updating there writers, etc.....

If the characters is as powerful as a person make them out to be then it shouldnt be hard to find feats for them within a 5yr time span.

Hell, I bet if I included surfer in this thread naija would come in here and own it. it makes owaw illegal to use, imo one of superman's best batches of feat arcs are out of play.
he still has final crisis though.

beta ray on the other hand has been absent until recently. upon his return he was on omega flight, annihilation, and headlines godhunter, so he has a more feats to draw upon in the 5 year period.

Originally posted by carver9
So basically you dont have anything comparable to what I put up. You use feats that has no weight.

How much strength did it take to break through that universal barrier and is it within a 5 yr time span bc thats what was stated in the opening of my post?
Actually, Megaddon, the Durability, and Energy Manipulation are all good. There was a scan where Superman survived the explosiong of a sun eater which had radiation of a dwarf star
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/7467/09122005080012pm3uo.jpg
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4746/09122005080419pm3ri.jpg
Though, I am not using this one. I've never read the issue, or heard of it

Originally posted by carver9
Whats funny about it since the characters power levels has changed along with DC updating there writers, etc.....

If the characters is as powerful as a person make them out to be then it shouldnt be hard to find feats for them within a 5yr time span.

Hell, I bet if I included surfer in this thread naija would come in here and own it.

Uhh... I already know what your trying to do.

Anyways, how well do you think BRB does against E2 Supes?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it makes owaw illegal to use, imo one of superman's best batches of feat arcs are out of play.
he still has final crisis though.

beta ray on the other hand has been absent until recently. upon his return he was on omega flight, annihilation, and headlines godhunter, so he has a more feats to draw upon in the 5 year period.

But it still shouldnt be hard to find feats since I'm asking for feats from high heralds. If you are a high herald, high end feats shouldnt be hard. Example; Surfer has blown up a planet just by powering up, fought along galactus against tenebrous and aegis. The list goes on. Along with thor (but we cant include him since his recent appearance because he had the odin force).

5 years, come on now, thats not asking for much.

Originally posted by Spire
Uhh... I already know what your trying to do.

Anyways, how well do you think BRB does against E2 Supes?

I'm not bringing up supes, JLking is. I would love for people to use another high herald to make this more interesting.

Originally posted by carver9
The scan said that the sun was exploding.

Notice how it said that "his end will be as was his beginning" because of the "exploding sun."

It's basically saying that once the star explodes, BRB will die.

But in the mean time, before he flew away, it was quite clear that the sun hadn't exploded yet.

There's really no other way of interpreting it.

Originally posted by batdude123
Notice how it said how "his end will be as was his beginning" because of the "exploding sun."

It's basically saying that once the star explodes, BRB will die.

But in the mean time, before he flew away, it was quite clear that the sun hadn't exploded yet.

There's really no other way of interpreting it.

Ah the power of common sense

Originally posted by xJLxKing

Ah the power of common sense

LOL, , I hate you guts JL

Originally posted by batdude123
Notice how it said how "his end will be as was his beginning" because of the "exploding sun."

It's basically saying that once the star explodes, BRB will die.

But in the mean time, before he flew away, it was quite clear that the sun hadn't exploded yet.

There's really no other way of interpreting it. actually, if you read the whole paragraph it explains it clearly.

Originally posted by batdude123
Notice how it said that "his end will be as was his beginning" because of the "exploding sun."

It's basically saying that once the star explodes, BRB will die.

But in the mean time, before he flew away, it was quite clear that the sun hadn't exploded yet.

There's really no other way of interpreting it.

but he didn't die even "within" the heart of the sun. So interpret anyway you want and mask it as common sense.

Also did you guys see where he flew out of? He came right out of the supernova. He wasen't next to it he emerged from supernova, look at the art again.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
but he didn't die even "within" the heart of the sun. So interpret anyway you want and mask it as common sense.

Also did you guys see where he flew out of? He came right out of the supernova. He wasen't next to it he emerged from supernova, look at the art again.

At best, it shows that BRB can withstand the heat, radiation, and pressure of a star (which is still pretty impressive).

However, a "supernova" is not a process, it's the actual explosion of the star. BRB was inside a dying star on the verge of exploding, but it clearly didn't go supernova yet.

BRB didn't survive a supernova.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
actually, if you read the whole paragraph it explains it clearly.

Yet some people can't seem understand it even when it's shown right in front of their faces.

Originally posted by carver9


Punching with planet destroying strength, hyperbole. If we accept hyperbole then I can present that scan stating that gladiator is one of the most powerful beings in the universe.


he did say "punches" not "punch"

Originally posted by carver9
The only reason he was koed was due to galactus knocking him out but here is the rest of the scan you asked for.

http://g.imagehost.org/view/0342/Stormbreaker_02_07

that's not tanking a supernova at all. seriously.

Originally posted by carver9
So basically you dont have anything comparable to what I put up. You use feats that has no weight.

How much strength did it take to break through that universal barrier and is it within a 5 yr time span bc thats what was stated in the opening of my post?



Superman has TONS of feats within the last five years that make him every bit the powerhouse you claim he isn't.

Originally posted by carver9
Whats funny about it since the characters power levels has changed along with DC updating there writers, etc.....

If the characters is as powerful as a person make them out to be then it shouldnt be hard to find feats for them within a 5yr time span.

Hell, I bet if I included surfer in this thread naija would come in here and own it.

none of that is true. at all.

Batdude just owned the thread.

So Craver you believe that other than Surfer, BRB is more powerful than anyone in the HH category?

So again, why was SS, Supes and Thor taken off the lists? Shouldn't they be the benchmarks of their respected tiers?