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No prep. Battle takes place inside of an indestructible arena. This is pre-death Thanos without any external power-ups and non-jobbing Darkseid (think OWAW DS) vs Neron
Who wins?

Thanos solos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos solos.

Originally posted by Omega Vision

What leads you to believe he couldn't?

Neron

Originally posted by vansonbee
Neron Based on what?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what?
Beating Mongul to death with his bare hands as if Mongul was a five year old girl with cancer for one. Then there's also the fact that he had the power to give Barbara Gordon all the powers of Superman.
I doubt Thanos and Darkseid together could beat him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Beating Mongul to death with his bare hands as if Mongul was a five year old girl with cancer for one. Then there's also the fact that he had the power to give Barbara Gordon all the powers of Superman.
I doubt Thanos and Darkseid together could beat him. Thanos has beaten the Surfer to death like he was nothing as well. Thanos also sat there unphased in his chair when he was blasted by the Silver Surfer. Thanos barely got a nose bleed after throwing down with a power gem sporting Thor.

If this is the best you can say for him I remain even more convinced Thanos tells Ds to sit this one out.

neron.

I wont argue that Thanos has mad feats but I'm sure he didn't beat Surfer effortlessly. Here's how he killed Mongul sr. (from Neron's respect thread)

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Neron/UnderworldUnleashed1pg32.jpg
Now just imagine Mongul is purple and you have how a fight between Thanos and Neron would go. Look I'm not saying Mongul is Thanos's equal (at least not Post Crisis) but he's in the same rough strength class and Neron made him look helpless.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Beating Mongul to death with his bare hands as if Mongul was a five year old girl with cancer for one. Then there's also the fact that he had the power to give Barbara Gordon all the powers of Superman.
I doubt Thanos and Darkseid together could beat him.

Which frankly isn't impressive at all.

It took Thanos that many blows to defeat Thor and Surfer. Darkseid also empowered PC Mantis who was at least as powerful as Superman.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Which frankly isn't impressive at all.

It took Thanos that many blows to defeat Thor and Surfer. Darkseid also empowered PC Mantis who was at least as powerful as Superman.
That was PC Darkseid who is >>>>>>>> Thanos no matter what anyone might want to think.

owning mongul is impressive, but it certainly isn't neron's best feat, imo..

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quite frankly, i'd LOVE to see thanos/darkseid try to replicate that feat.

Originally posted by Galan007
owning mongul is impressive, but it certainly isn't neron's best feat, imo..

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quite frankly, i'd LOVE to see thanos/darkseid try to replicate that feat.

When the Spectre fails to stop you its safe to say that you're out of Thanos or Darkseid's weightclass. Now together they may have a slim chance but to say things like "Thanos solos" is like saying an average man can take a Muay Thai master in a fight.

Originally posted by Galan007
owning mongul is impressive, but it certainly isn't neron's best feat, imo..

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quite frankly, i'd LOVE to see thanos/darkseid try to replicate that feat.

Now that was actually pretty impressive. Decent display of power but it's not like he can do that to either of his oppnents here. Not making judgement yet but just pointing somehting out. I need to read up on neron.

Beating Spectre has never impressed me tbh. He'll take a dive against anyone and anything.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
That was PC Darkseid who is >>>>>>>> Thanos no matter what anyone might want to think.
There is no PC Darkseid, he wasn't affected by the crisis. I don't see what Darkseid's power in relation to Thanos has to do with anything either

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Beating Spectre has never impressed me tbh. He'll take a dive against anyone and anything.

There is no PC Darkseid, he wasn't affected by the crisis.

fact

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Beating Spectre has never impressed me tbh. He'll take a dive against anyone and anything.

There is no PC Darkseid, he wasn't affected by the crisis. I don't see what Darkseid's power in relation to Thanos has to do with anything either
I know that but to say there's no difference between the power level of his PC appearances and his Post Crisis appearances is pure lunacy. The way I see it the real Darkseid was missing from the time of COIE to the time of Final Crisis when he briefly reappeared. And I was saying that Neron is clearly more powerful than Thanos when you tried to compare what Neron did to what Darkseid did as if that put Thanos and PC Darkseid on the same level which is an idiotic argument. Because PC Darkseid could do some of what Neron could do doesn't mean they're equal and even if they are Neron still easily crushes Thanos and even with Post Crisis DS's help Thanos has little hope of beating Neron.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I know that but to say there's no difference between the power level of his PC appearances and his Post Crisis appearances is pure lunacy. The way I see it the real Darkseid was missing from the time of COIE to the time of Final Crisis when he briefly reappeared. And I was saying that Neron is clearly more powerful than Thanos when you tried to compare what Neron did to what Darkseid did as if that put Thanos and PC Darkseid on the same level which is an idiotic argument. Because PC Darkseid could do some of what Neron could do doesn't mean they're equal and even if they are Neron still easily crushes Thanos and even with Post Crisis DS's help Thanos has little hope of beating Neron.

Look at your own posts, because this is getting silly.

You tried to put up Neron beating Mongul as something impressive. Thanos has already beaten stronger characters than Mongul with just as much effort. Hence why I mentioned it. Beating Mongul isn't impressive. Then I mentioned Darkseid empowering someone who was -at least- as powerful as Superman.

Simply put, the feats you posted do in -no way- put Neron above Thanos/Darkseid. No, Thanos and Darkseid are not equally powerful, but the feats you posted would not put him above -any- of them.

What Galan brought up is a different matter.

Originally posted by Galan007
owning mongul is impressive, but it certainly isn't neron's best feat, imo..

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quite frankly, i'd LOVE to see thanos/darkseid try to replicate that feat.

Interesting. Was that right around the time of the Genesis event??

Agreed Kris, have we forgot FC Revelations??

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Look at your own posts, because this is getting silly.

You tried to put up Neron beating Mongul as something impressive. Thanos has already beaten stronger characters than Mongul with just as much effort. Hence why I mentioned it. Beating Mongul isn't impressive. Then I mentioned Darkseid empowering someone who was -at least- as powerful as Superman.

Simply put, the feats you posted do in -no way- put Neron above Thanos/Darkseid. No, Thanos and Darkseid are not equally powerful, but the feats you posted would not put him above -any- of them.

What Galan brought up is a different matter.

Agree on all counts. I would add Thanos is superior to DS

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I wont argue that Thanos has mad feats but I'm sure he didn't beat Surfer effortlessly. Here's how he killed Mongul sr. (from Neron's respect thread)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Neron/UnderworldUnleashed1pg30.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Neron/UnderworldUnleashed1pg31.jpg
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Now just imagine Mongul is purple and you have how a fight between Thanos and Neron would go. Look I'm not saying Mongul is Thanos's equal (at least not Post Crisis) but he's in the same rough strength class and Neron made him look helpless. Mongul isn't high up on the totem pole. Thanos or Darkseid would both beat him to death as well.Originally posted by Omega Vision

When the Spectre fails to stop you its safe to say that you're out of Thanos or Darkseid's weightclass. Now together they may have a slim chance but to say things like "Thanos solos" is like saying an average man can take a Muay Thai master in a fight. The Spectre also failed to stop the black lanterns. We need to look at the circumstances. It seems Neron made the Spectre an offer, but this isn't proof that in an all out battle Neron has a snowballs chance in hell against an all out Spectre.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mongul isn't high up on the totem pole. Thanos or Darkseid would both beat him to death as well. The Spectre also failed to stop the black lanterns. We need to look at the circumstances. It seems Neron made the Spectre an offer, but this isn't proof that in an all out battle Neron has a snowballs chance in hell against an all out Spectre.
Of course not but then who does have a chance against an all out Spectre? Not many people and certainly not Thanos or Darkseid.
Neron did manage to separate the Spectre from his host which clearly puts him on at least a similar power level as the Spectre and which proves that he can challenge God's will at least to some small degree. The only other things that have separated the Spectre (not even the Spectre can separate itself from its host) from its host are God and the Spear of Destiny.
Spectre has failed in the past usually because of some celestial condition (in FC he was forbidden to interfere and in Blackest Night he's dealing with the power of the Anti-God) in that case its clear that the Spectre wasn't hemmed in and though its true Neron only beat him by making a deal with him the fact remains that the Spectre attacked him and was repulsed.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Of course not but then who does have a chance against an all out Spectre? Not many people and certainly not Thanos or Darkseid.
Neron did manage to separate the Spectre from his host which clearly puts him on at least a similar power level as the Spectre and which proves that he can challenge God's will at least to some small degree. The only other things that have separated the Spectre (not even the Spectre can separate itself from its host) from its host are God and the Spear of Destiny.
Spectre has failed in the past usually because of some celestial condition (in FC he was forbidden to interfere and in Blackest Night he's dealing with the power of the Anti-God) in that case its clear that the Spectre wasn't hemmed in and though its true Neron only beat him by making a deal with him the fact remains that the Spectre attacked him and was repulsed. My point is this doesn't prove that Neron is beyond Thanos. It was a neat trick that's for sure, but it doesn't prove he has the raw power to put Thanos down.


A black lantern ring can take over the Spectre, but not Thanos. We don't just ignore how or why these things were accomplished to create a false representation of how these events actually panned out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My point is this doesn't prove that Neron is beyond Thanos. It was a neat trick that's for sure, but it doesn't prove he has the raw power to put Thanos down.


A black lantern ring can take over the Spectre, but not Thanos. We don't just ignore how or why these things were accomplished to create a false representation of how these events actually panned out.
How do you know Thanos wouldn't fall victim to a Black Lantern ring? Just one more case of your "Thanos is special" problem?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you know Thanos wouldn't fall victim to a Black Lantern ring? Just one more case of your "Thanos is special" problem? Why do you think it worked on the Spectre in the first place?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why do you think it worked on the Spectre in the first place?
It worked because Geoff Johns wanted to create a sense of urgency and drama. It worked because all dead things (with the exception of Don Hall) are at the Black Ring's mercy.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It worked because Geoff Johns wanted to create a sense of urgency and drama. It worked because all dead things (with the exception of Don Hall) are at the Black Ring's mercy. The Thanos we debate with isn't dead so it has no power over him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Thanos we debate with isn't dead so it has no power over him.
Really? He loves Death, I could see the rings taking over him while still alive.
But that's besides the point since you've already invalidated your point about the BL rings overpowering the Spectre by agreeing that it only worked because he's a spirit inhabiting a dead body.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Really? He loves Death, I could see the rings taking over him while still alive.
But that's besides the point since you've already invalidated your point about the BL rings overpowering the Spectre by agreeing that it only worked because he's a spirit inhabiting a dead body. I brought it up because it's foolish to assume because one can take over/tempt the Spectre as proof of him being superior to Thanos.

Thanos would never fall victim to Neron's temptations and could never be taken over because he's alive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I brought it up because it's foolish to assume because one can take over/tempt the Spectre as proof of him being superior to Thanos.

Thanos would never fall victim to Neron's temptations and could never be taken over because he's alive.
How do you know? If Neron made himself look like Death I can see Thanos falling for it. Lust makes people stupid, Thanos is no exception. His only hope then would be for Darkseid to cockblock him (thus saving him)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you know? If Neron made himself look like Death I can see Thanos falling for it. Lust makes people stupid, Thanos is no exception. His only hope then would be for Darkseid to cockblock him (thus saving him) how would neron know thanos loves death?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you know? If Neron made himself look like Death I can see Thanos falling for it. Lust makes people stupid, Thanos is no exception. His only hope then would be for Darkseid to cockblock him (thus saving him) How does Neron know this? Don't you think if it were the easy Meph would have done so?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mongul isn't high up on the totem pole. Thanos or Darkseid would both beat him to death as well. The Spectre also failed to stop the black lanterns. We need to look at the circumstances. It seems Neron made the Spectre an offer, but this isn't proof that in an all out battle Neron has a snowballs chance in hell against an all out Spectre.
Mongul got bitched by Neron. He is stronger than Superman. Neron completely pwned him. Not even Thanos is strong enough to pwn someone who is stronger than Superman so easily.

They Duo Lose. They can't do a thing to Neron. He's really unbeatable. You have to trick him with a deal. You can't beat him with power. Not unless you are like A high up angel like Lucifer or something.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Mongul got bitched by Neron. He is stronger than Superman. Neron completely pwned him. Not even Thanos is strong enough to pwn someone who is stronger than Superman so easily. wrong thanos would beat mongul

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Mongul got bitched by Neron. He is stronger than Superman. Neron completely pwned him. Not even Thanos is strong enough to pwn someone who is stronger than Superman so easily. How is Mongul stronger than Superman?

Originally posted by thanos-prime
how would neron know thanos loves death?
Because he's Neron. He knew exactly what all the villains wanted so why shouldn't he know what Thanos wants?

Originally posted by thanos-prime
wrong thanos would beat mongul
is that what I said? No it isn't. I said Not even Thanos could beat someone so EASILY who is stronger than Superman. That is what I said correct? And Neron Did it with no strength amping. Thanos has to am his punches with cosmic powers to really pwn high herald types.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because he's Neron. He knew exactly what all the villains wanted so why shouldn't he know what Thanos wants? "Because he's neron" isn't proof.

Why the heck are we comparing DS and Thanos. DS has already said that no one has ever seen him. They don't know what he is. So he had to be hidden since the crisis days.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
"Because he's neron" isn't proof.
Yes it is. Neron is a being with knowledge of the entire Universe. He's one of the DCU's most powerful and influential beings, why wouldn't he know about Thanos's (not so secret) lust for Death?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes it is. Neron is a being with knowledge of the entire Universe. He's one of the DCU's most powerful and influential beings, why wouldn't he know about Thanos's (not so secret) lust for Death? In a forum matchup Thanos knows who he is fighting. He isn't catching Thanos unaware taking a crap so he knows he's there to fight and beat Neron.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes it is. Neron is a being with knowledge of the entire Universe. He's one of the DCU's most powerful and influential beings, why wouldn't he know about Thanos's (not so secret) lust for Death? Because he's Thanos

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yes it is. Neron is a being with knowledge of the entire Universe. He's one of the DCU's most powerful and influential beings, why wouldn't he know about Thanos's (not so secret) lust for Death? Because thanos is not from the DC universe and he doesn't announce his love for death before going into every battle

Originally posted by Blanket
Because he's Thanos
Sadly those words seem to be actual cogent points on this forum.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In a forum matchup Thanos knows who he is fighting. He isn't catching Thanos unaware taking a crap so he knows he's there to fight and beat Neron.
Thanos can never, would never, ever be able to beat Neron. Ever.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Because thanos is not from the DC universe and he doesn't announce his love for death before going into every battle
We assume a more or less shared Universe in this battle. And just because he doesn't shout it on the mountain tops every second doesn't mean it isn't more or less common knowledge. Neron could easily read Thanos' mind. For instance Barbara Gordon doesn't constantly moan about how emotionally crippled she is since Joker's assault on her but Neron knew right away that it was her weakness and he attempted to exploit it.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Thanos can never, would never, ever be able to beat Neron. Ever. Because he owned Mongul? Is that the extent of your proof on the matter?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
We assume a more or less shared Universe in this battle. And just because he doesn't shout it on the mountain tops every second doesn't mean it isn't more or less common knowledge. Neron could easily read Thanos' mind. For instance Barbara Gordon doesn't constantly moan about how emotionally crippled she is since Joker's assault on her but Neron knew right away that it was her weakness and he attempted to exploit it. read his mind when x-man couldn't funny.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
We assume a more or less shared Universe in this battle. And just because he doesn't shout it on the mountain tops every second doesn't mean it isn't more or less common knowledge. Neron could easily read Thanos' mind. For instance Barbara Gordon doesn't constantly moan about how emotionally crippled she is since Joker's assault on her but Neron knew right away that it was her weakness and he attempted to exploit it. Are you comparing Barb's very human mind along with her blatant case of cripple with Thanos?

Seriously?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he owned Mongul? Is that the extent of your proof on the matter?
He Pwned Mongul with Ease. He was literally playing. Even Thanos has had to put effort into back handing the weak Hulk. There is no way to beat Neron except by having his plans back fire on him. let me ask you a question, who do you think Thanos will lose against? I'm getting the sinking feeling you think he can beat just about anyone. If that is the case, I need to know so I won't argue with you anymore. I don't like arguing points that wont' be heard.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
read his mind when x-man couldn't funny.
He probably wouldn't even need to read Thanos' mind (though he certainly could X-Man=/=Neron) he could stare into Thanos' soul and see his every desire.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
read his mind when x-man couldn't funny. No one has been able get past his mental defences.

Originally posted by Blanket
Are you comparing Barb's very human mind along with her blatant case of cripple with Thanos?

Seriously?
Mind? Neron Read's souls. He reads the longing that the soul wants. if someone where brain dead, he could read their soul and know what they wanted. Plus Thanos's love for death is common. Neron would have that knowlege.

Lol at people who think Neron wouldn't be able to understand the entire driving force behind Thanos's existence. Next you'll say that Neron wouldn't be able to tell that Dr. Light likes raping people or that Superman likes saving people.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Mind? Neron Read's souls. He reads the longing that the soul wants. if someone where brain dead, he could read their soul and know what they wanted. Plus Thanos's love for death is common. Neron would have that knowlege. K. Replace mind with soul then.

Also, Thanos is a face reader. He would read Neron's face and know what he wants, which would stop Neron from reading his soul in the middle of this two on one battle and not a read off contest.

Originally posted by Blanket
K. Replace mind with soul then.

Also, Thanos is a face reader. He would read Neron's face and know what he wants, which would stop Neron from reading his soul in the middle of this two on one battle and not a read off contest.
Neron doesn't have to read Thanos' soul to beat him. He could simply Depower him. Or create an army of Supermen demons to pwn him. He could just punch him to death like He did Mongul.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
He Pwned Mongul with Ease. He was literally playing. Even Thanos has had to put effort into back handing the weak Hulk. There is no way to beat Neron except by having his plans back fire on him. let me ask you a question, who do you think Thanos will lose against? I'm getting the sinking feeling you think he can beat just about anyone. If that is the case, I need to know so I won't argue with you anymore. I don't like arguing points that wont' be heard. Mongul is a joke. Thanos has taken blasts from the Surfer like they were gusts of wind. He even stood completely unmoved by a blast from Odin who also easily oneshotted the Surfer and Drax.

You haven't convinced me or anyone else for that matter when your one great feat involves Mongul a career loser.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol at people who think Neron wouldn't be able to understand the entire driving force behind Thanos's existence. Next you'll say that Neron wouldn't be able to tell that Dr. Light likes raping people or that Superman likes saving people. ok and if he reads his soul what does that accomplish?thanos is no fool if the enemy disappears then lady death shows up you would have to be naive to believe that is not him and thanos is not naive

Originally posted by Blanket
K. Replace mind with soul then.

Also, Thanos is a face reader. He would read Neron's face and know what he wants, which would stop Neron from reading his soul in the middle of this two on one battle and not a read off contest.
Neron is the Lord of Lies. It's his ****ing title. You can't read the face of a being that doesn't truly have a face. Neron doesn't have readable emotions since he's not a normal being.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Neron doesn't have to read Thanos' soul to beat him. He could simply Depower him. Or create an army of Supermen demons to pwn him. He could just punch him to death like He did Mongul. Just depower him. That's probably accomplishable.

When the hell has he done that?

It's funny, but Thanos beat the much more impressive Surfer to pretty much death just as easily as Neron did to Mongul.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
ok and if he reads his soul what does that accomplish?thanos is no fool if the enemy disappears then lady death shows up you would have to be naive to believe that is not him and thanos is not naive
Not naive just incredibly obsessed with scoring with Death to the point that his logic and senses can be overwhelmed by this. It's beside the point though since Darkseid would be there in any case to snap Thanos out of it. What I'm saying is that Quan's retarded "Thanos solos" post is laughable on a lot of levels.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mongul is a joke. Thanos has taken blasts from the Surfer like they were gusts of wind. He even stood completely unmoved by a blast from Odin who also easily oneshotted the Surfer and Drax.

You haven't convinced me or anyone else for that matter when your one great feat involves Mongul a career loser.
wait. since when is taking a blast from the surfer a great feat? I can pull scans from no names who have done that. In the star masters, surfer got embarrased by nothing but a red strong guy. And Thanos was hurt when he was fighting Odin. And Odin didn't even destroy anything around him. so how was his blast all that powerful? Odin could have destroyed all of asgard if he wanted to. He prolly pulled his punches so he wouldn't hurt his home.

Originally posted by Blanket
Just depower him. That's probably accomplishable.

When the hell has he done that?

It's funny, but Thanos beat the much more impressive Surfer to pretty much death just as easily as Neron did to Mongul.
Surfer has never impressed me around thanos. It's like he goes on retard mode.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not naive just incredibly obsessed with scoring with Death to the point that his logic and senses can be overwhelmed by this. It's beside the point though since Darkseid would be there in any case to snap Thanos out of it. What I'm saying is that Quan's retarded "Thanos solos" post is laughable on a lot of levels. and your defense was he pretends to be death which is also quite laughable.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
wait. since when is taking a blast from the surfer a great feat? I can pull scans from no names who have done that. In the star masters, surfer got embarrased by nothing but a red strong guy. And Thanos was hurt when he was fighting Odin. And Odin didn't even destroy anything around him. so how was his blast all that powerful? Odin could have destroyed all of asgard if he wanted to. He prolly pulled his punches so he wouldn't hurt his home. it was said that he used his most powerful blast on thanos and thanos didn't even flinch.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Surfer has never impressed me around thanos. It's like he goes on retard mode. Mongul has never impressed me... period. It's like he's on retard mode all the time.

Is this how we discount feats now? Because even my statement holds more weight than yours.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Neron is the Lord of Lies. It's his ****ing title. You can't read the face of a being that doesn't truly have a face. Neron doesn't have readable emotions since he's not a normal being. Because he's Thanos.

Originally posted by Blanket
Mongul has never impressed me... period. It's like he's on retard mode all the time.

Is this how we discount feats now? Because even my statement holds more weight than yours.
Name something impressive Surfer did Around Thanos. He never evaded Thanos. He never used his superior speed. he never does anything but runs into thanos' fist.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
and your defense was he pretends to be death which is also quite laughable.
How is it laughable? As DC's version of Mephisto (but more powerful and less cowardly) Neron would probably do it just to mess with Thanos' head. He wouldn't need to though. He could just as easily snap Thanos' neck.
Even if you're less than impressed with my arguments I haven't heard a single argument for how the Team (or Thanos alone for that matter) has a chance of dropping Neron.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not naive just incredibly obsessed with scoring with Death to the point that his logic and senses can be overwhelmed by this. It's beside the point though since Darkseid would be there in any case to snap Thanos out of it. What I'm saying is that Quan's retarded "Thanos solos" post is laughable on a lot of levels. No, it actually isn't. I have seen no definitive proof as to why Thanos couldn't beat the poop out of this liar.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Name something impressive Surfer did Around Thanos. He never evaded Thanos. He never used his superior speed. he never does anything but runs into thanos' fist. I can't name anything because he's nothing to Thanos.

He tried using speed and blasts and Thanos put his hand up to stop it. What else should he be doing?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How is it laughable? As DC's version of Mephisto (but more powerful and less cowardly) Neron would probably do it just to mess with Thanos' head. He wouldn't need to though. He could just as easily snap Thanos' neck.
Even if you're less than impressed with my arguments I haven't heard a single argument for how the Team (or Thanos alone for that matter) has a chance of dropping Neron. first of all thanos is not stupid enough to fall for something as stupid as that in a fight.please show a scan of him snapping someone is thanos's league's neck.and vice versa

Originally posted by thanos-prime
first of all thanos is not stupid enough to fall for something as stupid as that in a fight.please show a scan of him snapping someone is thanos's league's neck.and vice versa
I showed the scan of him treating Mongul like a sick baby and everyone acted like it didn't matter. Superman and Captain Marvel weren't even threats to Neron physically, he took the best Kyle Rayner could give with a smile, manhandled Asmodel, and treated the Flash like a joke. Only a blind Thanos fanboy would say that Thanos could do half of what Neron could do.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I showed the scan of him treating Mongul like a sick baby and everyone acted like it didn't matter. Superman and Captain Marvel weren't even threats to Neron physically, he took the best Kyle Rayner could give with a smile, manhandled Asmodel, and treated the Flash like a joke. Only a blind Thanos fanboy would say that Thanos could do half of what Neron could do. When did he manhandle Asmodel?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I showed the scan of him treating Mongul like a sick baby and everyone acted like it didn't matter. Superman and Captain Marvel weren't even threats to Neron physically, he took the best Kyle Rayner could give with a smile, manhandled Asmodel, and treated the Flash like a joke. Only a blind Thanos fanboy would say that Thanos could do half of what Neron could do. So you think Neron easily puts down Thanos physically?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I showed the scan of him treating Mongul like a sick baby and everyone acted like it didn't matter. Superman and Captain Marvel weren't even threats to Neron physically, he took the best Kyle Rayner could give with a smile, manhandled Asmodel, and treated the Flash like a joke. Only a blind Thanos fanboy would say that Thanos could do half of what Neron could do. funny because i didn't say he could did i?and i never said he could accomplish those feats but the two of them imo could beat him.

Here Neron Kills Satanus who was superior to Superman.

Easily while sitting down.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Neron/UnderworldUnleashed3pg07.jpg

Here he beats the Flash, MM, Wonder Woman, and Alan Scoot who was Sentinal at the time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Neron/UnderworldUnleashed3pg30.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did he manhandle Asmodel?
It was after Asmodel became commander of Hell's armies. He picked Asmodel by the neck and tossed him across the room. Asmodel verbally spars with Lilith but when Neron enters the room his balls recede. It was clear that Asmodel was terrified of him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It was after Asmodel became commander of Hell's armies. He picked Asmodel by the neck and tossed him across the room. Asmodel verbally spars with Lilith but when Neron enters the room his balls recede. It was clear that Asmodel was terrified of him. Yes, because in hell Neron was the most powerful character there as opposed to Asmodel at that point. Asmodel with full range of his angelic powers would be another matter.

it always makes me chuckle when people try to downplay corrigan-spectre, as if he were some weak feeb.

haw-som

This is a good one too. He beats Sentinal Super duper easily.

Thanos cannot beat Sentinal Easily. If at all. Neither could What ever version of DS was seen inbetween the Crisis.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Neron/UnderworldUnleashed-Abyss-HellsSent.jpg

Originally posted by Nihilist
So you think Neron easily puts down Thanos physically?

Originally posted by Galan007
it always makes me chuckle when people try to downplay corrigan-spectre, as if he were some weak feeb.

haw-som That isn't proof he can defeat Thanos that's proof he can tempt the Spectre.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
This is a good one too. He beats Sentinal Super duper easily.

Thanos cannot beat Sentinal Easily. If at all. Neither could What ever version of DS was seen inbetween the Crisis.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Neron/UnderworldUnleashed-Abyss-HellsSent.jpg not solo but the 2 of them could

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, because in hell Neron was the most powerful character there as opposed to Asmodel at that point. Asmodel with full range of his angelic powers would be another matter.
The fact remains Asmodel was powerful enough to be made commander of Hell's armies so he was still one bad ass mother****er, Angelic powers or no Neron terrified him and treated him like a little *****.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
not solo but the 2 of them could
how could the two of them do it when Blaze and Satanus could not? Alan Scott and Flash, Wonder Woman and MM couldn't. Asmodel, Lilith and other demons couldn't.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
how could the two of them do it when Blaze and Satanus could not? Alan Scott and Flash, Wonder Woman and MM couldn't. Asmodel, Lilith and other demons couldn't.

Because Quanchi's Thanos>>>Lucifer, that's why.

I'm not saying its impossible for the team to win but saying Thanos solos is an enormously idiotic statement considering he doesn't have prep.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
how could the two of them do it when Blaze and Satanus could not? Alan Scott and Flash, Wonder Woman and MM couldn't. Asmodel, Lilith and other demons couldn't. He was talking about Alan

Also, I'm probably forgetting a lot of context (seeing as how I only remember the result), but Neron's head is on a stick due to Satannis/Blaze.

Originally posted by Blanket
He was talking about Alan
Even if the two of them could beat Alan, Neron had already established he's far superior to Alan who is, literally an equal to Thanos or DS when he is Sentinal.

Originally posted by batdude123
Because Quanchi's Thanos>>>Lucifer, that's why.
Quanchi's Thanos>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos HOTU

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Even if the two of them could beat Alan, Neron had already established he's far superior to Alan who is, literally an equal to Thanos or DS when he is Sentinal. i disagree that he is equal to either of them

Originally posted by thanos-prime
i disagree that he is equal to either of them
If not equal surely close. He's far above the heralds.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
If not equal surely close. He's far above the heralds. yes he is.But with there combined versatility they should be able to pull the win

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The fact remains Asmodel was powerful enough to be made commander of Hell's armies so he was still one bad ass mother****er, Angelic powers or no Neron terrified him and treated him like a little *****. He was always under Neron who always reigned supreme in the hierarchy in hell.

Originally posted by batdude123
Because Quanchi's Thanos>>>Lucifer, that's why. He most certainly would make him tap.Originally posted by Blanket
He was talking about Alan

Also, I'm probably forgetting a lot of context (seeing as how I only remember the result), but Neron's head is on a stick due to Satannis/Blaze. Due to cleverness. Neron was clearly above him.Originally posted by Omega Vision
Quanchi's Thanos>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos HOTU You are one silly guy.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
yes he is.But with there combined versatility they should be able to pull the win
No. Neron Beat blaze and Satanus easily. Both of whom would be hard fights for DS or Thanos. So I don't think they can beat him.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. Neron Beat blaze and Satanus easily. Both of whom would be hard fights for DS or Thanos. So I don't think they can beat him. yes but he beat them in his realm correct?if so he was more powerful than he would be in this fight.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. Neron Beat blaze and Satanus easily. Both of whom would be hard fights for DS or Thanos. So I don't think they can beat him. Neron ended up defeated at the end of the book. His reign was over and then Blaze stabbed S in the back and assumed control.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
yes but he beat them in his realm correct?if so he was more powerful than he would be in this fight.
Since when did Neron's power fade in and out of hell? He didn't seem weak when he deflected the Spectre's attack.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
yes but he beat them in his realm correct?if so he was more powerful than he would be in this fight.
His power doesn't come from his realm, his power comes from his Demon underlings. The only way he could be defeated by Blaze and Satanus's rebellion was by turning all of his Demons into humans, thus sapping him of his power. Before then Satanus admitted that fighting him one on one would be suicide and he only did it because he had a trick up his sleeve.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Since when did Neron's power fade in and out of hell? He didn't seem weak when he deflected the Spectre's attack. hmm i was under the impression that they got weaker when there out of there own realm like marvel's demons do i guess not..

Originally posted by thanos-prime
hmm i was under the impression that they got weaker when there out of there own realm like marvel's demons do i guess not..
No he didn't really have any limitations. He didn't even have to get permission to take a soul which makes you wonder. If he could just beat the shit out of everyone and take their souls by force (like Mongul) why bother with making deals? I suppose it was because souls bargained for taste sweeter or something on that order.

Thanos and Darkseid kill Neron's minions.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thanos and Darkseid kill Neron's minions.
Some of those minions are as strong or stronger than Etrigan. Lets be fair and not include Neron's minions okay? cause then its an unholy stomp in Neron's favor.

Darkseids OE should erase Neron from existence, if properly written. Physically I would place DS on Nerons level. Thanos durability and Willpower is incredible. I can't imagine how Thanos could kill Neron but I don't think that Neron could kill Thanos as easily as Mongul.

DS and Thanos are overkill.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Darkseids OE should erase Neron from existence, if properly written. Physically I would place DS on Nerons level. Thanos durability and Willpower is incredible. I can't imagine how Thanos could kill Neron but I don't think that Neron could kill Thanos as easily as Mongul.

DS and Thanos are overkill.
Look the only DS that has a shot at matching Neron one on one is PC DS and this isn't that version. And regular Thanos doesn't come close to Neron's level as an individual.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No he didn't really have any limitations. He didn't even have to get permission to take a soul which makes you wonder. If he could just beat the shit out of everyone and take their souls by force (like Mongul) why bother with making deals? I suppose it was because souls bargained for taste sweeter or something on that order. thanos has also stolen life force's by force.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Look the only DS that has a shot at matching Neron one on one is PC DS and this isn't that version. And regular Thanos doesn't come close to Neron's level as an individual. imo you over estimate neron and underestimate thanos and darkseid team takes it imo 6/10

Originally posted by thanos-prime
imo you over estimate neron and underestimate thanos and darkseid team takes it imo 6/10
I never underestimate Darkseid. I know that he and Thanos can't take a majority in a straight up prep-less battle.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I never underestimate Darkseid. I know that he and Thanos can't take a majority in a straight up prep-less battle. that's your opinion and your entitled to it

Originally posted by thanos-prime
thanos has also stolen life force's by force.
Didn't he need the soul gem to do that though?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Didn't he need the soul gem to do that though? Not that im aware of.

Neron wins

Originally posted by Omega Vision
No he didn't really have any limitations. He didn't even have to get permission to take a soul which makes you wonder. If he could just beat the shit out of everyone and take their souls by force (like Mongul) why bother with making deals? I suppose it was because souls bargained for taste sweeter or something on that order. He still can't just take a soul. He tried and failed taking Superman's.Originally posted by Omega Vision
Some of those minions are as strong or stronger than Etrigan. Lets be fair and not include Neron's minions okay? cause then its an unholy stomp in Neron's favor. He'd need the help against Thanos and Darkseid.

Neron wins.


Thanos is the weaklink

Originally posted by shokosugi
Neron wins.


Thanos is the weaklink How so?

Originally posted by shokosugi
Neron wins.


Thanos is the weaklink Gibberish!

Both are weaklinks to Lord Neron

Originally posted by iceman24567
Both are weaklinks to Lord Neron Not really. Thanos has taken on beings with a lot more credibility than Neron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not really. Thanos has taken on beings with a lot more credibility than Neron.
I won't argue he's dealt with beings on Neron's level but I doubt he's ever won a fight (unassisted) against one.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I won't argue he's dealt with beings on Neron's level but I doubt he's ever won a fight (unassisted) against one. Here's the problem with that. Odin failed to put down a weaker Thanos and what's Neron down to put him on Odin's level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Here's the problem with that. Odin failed to put down a weaker Thanos and what's Neron down to put him on Odin's level.
What other than treating multiple Top Tiers like his bitches and challenging the power of the Spectre?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What other than treating multiple Top Tiers like his bitches and challenging the power of the Spectre? thanos has also made multiple top tiers look like punks and the spectre had to agree to the deal to be separated i don't think neron could have done it if the spectre didn't want him to.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
thanos has also made multiple top tiers look like punks and the spectre had to agree to the deal to be separated i don't think neron could have done it if the spectre didn't want him to.
The point is that the Spectre himself didn't have the power to abandon his host yet Neron had the power to separate it against the Presence's will.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The point is that the Spectre himself didn't have the power to abandon his host yet Neron had the power to separate it against the Presence's will. What im saying is i don't think that he accomplished it by himself i think he would have needed help from the spectre.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The point is that the Spectre himself didn't have the power to abandon his host yet Neron had the power to separate it against the Presence's will. Neron wins the team isn't powerful enough to beat him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What other than treating multiple Top Tiers like his bitches and challenging the power of the Spectre? He never challenged the power of the Spectre he tempted the Spectre. He also actively pursued the power of the Spectre before.

Asmodel showed how above Neron and all of hell he was back in the day.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He never challenged the power of the Spectre he tempted the Spectre. He also actively pursued the power of the Spectre before.

Asmodel showed how above Neron and all of hell he was back in the day.
Show me proof that Asmodel was ever Neron's superior. Every interaction I've seen between them boils down to Neron either torturing him or treating him like a *****.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Show me proof that Asmodel was ever Neron's superior. Every interaction I've seen between them boils down to Neron either torturing him or treating him like a *****. Neron originally tricked him into storming heaven. When he later bonded with the Specytre he froze hell over and went to earth to destroy it and everything before he was stopped.

Asmodel wasn't always the archfiend that he later became in reign in hell. The only reason he did so was because he had no choice as his angelic powers had been long gone and he can't hope to stand up to Neron in hell without them.