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Kenpachi has his eyepatch off and is using both hands while K.B. is in his full 8-tails form, which is (of course) much bigger and (probably) more powerful than Yammy and also isn't a complete piece of crap like him.

who wins this fight?

p.s: what I said earlier about K.B. probably being more powerful than Yammy, I just now realized something: K.B. actually is imo more powerful than Yammy will ever be regardless of what he does.

Kenpachi carves up 8-tails much the same way he is doing to Yammy.

Kenpachi lets Yammy kill the Eight Tailed, because he can, easily.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kenpachi lets Yammy kill the Eight Tailed, because he can, easily.

You're saying that Yammy could kill the Eight tails?

Kenpachi should take this.

~ In all honesty, Yammy has no feats, or rather, the ones he does have redefine the word 'pathetic'.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
~ In all honesty, Yammy has no feats,

More literally, Yammy is missing quite a few feets, now.

Originally posted by dadudemon
More literally, Yammy is missing quite a few feets, now.

thumbsup WIN!

Originally posted by EvilAngel
thumbsup WIN!




I couldn't help it. It was a bad joke, waiting to happen.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're saying that Yammy could kill the Eight tails? Yes.

Yammy may such total ass now, but he is still physically one of the strongest characters in Bleach, and has an impressive Cero.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/382/15/

Considering Yammy's size, that cero's blast radius was huge.

Originally posted by NemeBro


http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/382/15/

Considering Yammy's size, that cero's blast radius was huge.

This is why you are wrong.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/06/

Ulquiorra's first released form did that, with his Cero Oscuras.


I'm hoping since his 'theme' is rage. As the fight goes on, he'll regenerate progressively faster, and hit progressively harder/faster. That's the hope atleast.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
This is why you are wrong.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/06/

Ulquiorra's first released form did that, with his Cero Oscuras.


I'm hoping since his 'theme' is rage. As the fight goes on, he'll regenerate progressively faster, and hit progressively harder/faster. That's the hope atleast.

YOU WON'T LIKE ME WHEN IM ANGGRRYY!

~ Or he could infect the two captains with blind rage and have them try to kill each other. Meh.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
This is why you are wrong.

http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/347/06/

Ulquiorra's first released form did that, with his Cero Oscuras.


I'm hoping since his 'theme' is rage. As the fight goes on, he'll regenerate progressively faster, and hit progressively harder/faster. That's the hope atleast. I show a cero explosion, and you show me smoke?

And...I don't care, that does not prove me wrong, at all, Ulquiorra in his first release would tool the Hachibi.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I show a cero explosion, and you show me smoke?

And...I don't care, that does not prove me wrong, at all, Ulquiorra in his first release would tool the Hachibi.

Smoke? lul wut?

You've not got the best mind in that melon you call a head do you?

I was refering to half of the roof of Las Noches being blow away. Which is a few dozen or hundred times larger than Yammys cero.

Nah.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Nah.

I'm not sure about her numbres, but Los Noches is the size of a large city and is as tall or taller than a skyscraper. (Probably toaller because it has fake atmosphere/clouds.) For Ulq to destroy a large portion of the roof like that is absurd. That's mid-sized nuke level, dude.

Nah.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Nah.


*rapes*

Nah? ermm

Except Killer Bee is a mountain buster with a single Biju ball.

Killer Bee shits on Kenny.

Current Kenpachi kills him with his pinky

Gotta agree with Blazing Storm now. Current Kenny probably would shit on Killer Bee, even though it was the other way around until the latest chapter.

what has kenpachis destructive capabilitiy and what had hachibi's durability been classified as?

Originally posted by yungz22
what has kenpachis destructive capabilitiy and what had hachibi's durability been classified as?

Kenpachi cut through the strongest sternritter effortlessly.

Killer Bee nearly got killed by early MS Sasuke.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Kenpachi cut through the strongest sternritter effortlessly.

Killer Bee nearly got killed by early MS Sasuke.


we dont know if he actually is the strongest sterntritter it could be hyperbole. plus im pretty sure damn near everybody in bleach can cut through steel.

killerbee nearly killed sasuked like 3 times during that fight if sasuke wasnt alone he would have died

so idk if both of those feats can really qualified as factors to determine those things.

idk maybe tho

Originally posted by yungz22
we dont know if he actually is the strongest sterntritter it could be hyperbole. plus im pretty sure damn near everybody in bleach can cut through steel.

killerbee nearly killed sasuked like 3 times during that fight if sasuke wasnt alone he would have died

so idk if both of those feats can really qualified as factors to determine those things.

idk maybe tho

Hyperbole? He said he was the strongest sternritter. His feats alone, killing two captains with a thought as well as one panneling a head captain+ level Yachiru put him FAR above any other sternritter. If they could, then why did Kenny, the strongest current character, struggle to cut through it?

And? Sasuke still nearly killed him with Amaterasu.

Killer Bee has a weaker destructive capacity now, and Kenny is on the level of probably Madara against Hashirama, going by power scaling.

We havent seen all of the sternritters abilities so you cant say hes stronger also if that was the case hashwalth wouldnt be second in command of the quincys.

Killer Bee still has the biju-ball option.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Hyperbole? He said he was the strongest sternritter. His feats alone, killing two captains with a thought as well as one panneling a head captain+ level Yachiru put him FAR above any other sternritter. If they could, then why did Kenny, the strongest current character, struggle to cut through it?

And? Sasuke still nearly killed him with Amaterasu.

Killer Bee has a weaker destructive capacity now, and Kenny is on the level of probably Madara against Hashirama, going by power scaling.

his statement have now been backed up by some of his fellow sternritters so it must be true. this makes it not hyperbole.

If gremmy would have bee the only one to say it icouldve/wouldve always been considered as hyperbole.

Originally posted by yungz22
We havent seen all of the sternritters abilities so you cant say hes stronger also if that was the case hashwalth wouldnt be second in command of the quincys.

Strongest character=/=Highest in command.

Unless you're also suggesting that Tsunade is stronger than Naruto, Sasuke, Madara, etc.

Originally posted by yungz22
his statement have now been backed up by some of his fellow sternritters so it must be true. this makes it not hyperbole.

If gremmy would have bee the only one to say it icouldve/wouldve always been considered as hyperbole.

Not all statements in anime/manga = hyperbole.

You just have to have the knowledge from third grade to decipher what is and what isn't... which you obviously don't have.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Not all statements in anime/manga = hyperbole.

You just have to have the knowledge from third grade to decipher what is and what isn't... which you obviously don't have.


you cant just accept what ppl say as fact. there has to be examples of the person actually showing the capability of doing what was said or someone else confirming what the person said as well. otherwise it can be said that it is hyperbole.

for example look at giriko and findor both made claims of having immense powers or being the strongest when in actuality that wasnt true they both got beat. and werent who they thought they were. they both overexaggerated their power.

no need for insults man

Originally posted by yungz22
you cant just accept what ppl say as fact. there has to be examples of the person actually showing the capability of doing what was said or someone else confirming what the person said as well. otherwise it can be said that it is hyperbole.

for example look at giriko and findor both made claims of having immense powers or being the strongest when in actuality that wasnt true they both got beat. and werent who they thought they were. they both overexaggerated their power.

no need for insults man

No, you have that absolutely backwards.

You accept ALL statement as FACT in manga, until it is disproven. The reason for this is that manga's do not have narrators like comics do. If the author wants something to be stated, a character has to say it because they don't use narrators. I don't know who giriko is, but Findor never said he was the strongest anything. He wasn't even the strongest of the Espada's lackeys(I forget their names).

Then don't insult my intelligence by making idiotic claims and labeling them as true.

Thats basically saying if i tell you i can fly you have to believe me smh


I was just saying both characters exaggerated their strength

killer bee wins this ya dumbass phoneys

Originally posted by yungz22
Thats basically saying if i tell you i can fly you have to believe me smh


I was just saying both characters exaggerated their strength

How is that anything like this?

You are human. You cannot fly without any outside force assisting you, such as a plane, tornado, etc. That is fact.

This is anime. If they say something that isn't disproved, then it is true, because none of it actually relates to real life. There is no limit for ninja's(other than possibly peaked at planet level), there is for humans.

Again, Sternritter I is the strongest, he wouldn't have said he was if he wasn't. Prove that he's not, and it's hyperbole. However, you can't, so it's not, and you're stupid.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
How is that anything like this?

You are human. You cannot fly without any outside force assisting you, such as a plane, tornado, etc. That is fact.

This is anime. If they say something that isn't disproved, then it is true, because none of it actually relates to real life. There is no limit for ninja's(other than possibly peaked at planet level), there is for humans.

Again, Sternritter I is the strongest, he wouldn't have said he was if he wasn't. Prove that he's not, and it's hyperbole. However, you can't, so it's not, and you're stupid.

now that gremmy's colleagues supported his claims as fact we can say it isnt hyperbole

yamamotos statements arent hyperbole because hes proven it countless times plus others have stated the same.

examples proving my point about hyperbole are Giriko and Findor. both exaggerated their power yammy and yukio are two others.

Even barrgagan called himself a god which we both know isnt true.... you cant take every word a character says as fact unless he or others have proven that they can do what they claim.

Originally posted by chasedown
now that gremmy's colleagues supported his claims as fact we can say it isnt hyperbole

yamamotos statements arent hyperbole because hes proven it countless times plus others have stated the same.

examples proving my point about hyperbole are Giriko and Findor. both exaggerated their power yammy and yukio are two others.

Even barrgagan called himself a god which we both know isnt true.... you cant take every word a character says as fact unless he or others have proven that they can do what they claim.

BARRAGAN DISPROVED HIS OWN STATEMENT BY GETTING CONTROLLED BY AIZEN AND DYING!!! HE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE PROVEN OTHERWISE.

You still posted no scans, so it didn't happen.

You also ignored my entire post, so you fail, and are disgustingly wrong.

SSJGogeta's mother is a whore.

Originally posted by NemeBro
My mother is a whore.

Okay.

Calm down.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Calm down.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/W1-qbiMbUUk/maxresdefault.jpg

Wow, I did not expect that picture to be so big... but I like it.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
BARRAGAN DISPROVED HIS OWN STATEMENT BY GETTING CONTROLLED BY AIZEN AND DYING!!! HE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE PROVEN OTHERWISE.

You still posted no scans, so it didn't happen.

You also ignored my entire post, so you fail, and are disgustingly wrong.
Regardless it was still a hyperbolic statement by barragan...
Either way those characters are all examples of characters saying hyperbolic things that are later disproved. Not everything a character says is supposed to be taken as fact immediately especially if the character had just been introduced and we know barely know the extent of his power.

Thats all im saying... You were right about gremmy tho im not saying that your wrong. Its just foolish to immediately take everything a character says literally.

Originally posted by yungz22
Regardless it was still a hyperbolic statement by barragan...
Either way those characters are all examples of characters saying hyperbolic things that are later disproved. Not everything a character says is supposed to be taken as fact immediately especially if the character had just been introduced and we know barely know the extent of his power.

Thats all im saying... You were right about gremmy tho im not saying that your wrong. Its just foolish to immediately take everything a character says literally.

No, it was an exaggeration by Barragan, fueled by a superiority complex that 90% of anime villains have.

As I elaborated earlier, there are some statements that are obvious hyperbole, which are typically joking when in context. Others that are STATED AS FACT, are meant to be taken as such.

You gave the perfect example. If someone says "I am a god", they are obviously being cocky(unless they actually ARE a god, like Bills or any soul reapers*which translates to death god*). When someone says "I can destroy this entire planet/solar system/galaxy/universe/etc.", they are obviously being serious.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No, it was an exaggeration by Barragan, fueled by a superiority complex that 90% of anime villains have.

As I elaborated earlier, there are some statements that are obvious hyperbole, which are typically joking when in context. Others that are STATED AS FACT, are meant to be taken as such.

You gave the perfect example. If someone says "I am a god", they are obviously being cocky(unless they actually ARE a god, like Bills or any soul reapers*which translates to death god*). When someone says "I can destroy this entire planet/solar system/galaxy/universe/etc.", they are obviously being serious.

Barragan still engaged in hyperbole when he said it.


And Why are you only focusing on barragan. What about the other characters exaggerated their strength. everything cant be taken as fact immediately. They have to prove it with action or others have to bolster their statement if its to be believed as fact.

Barragan also said he was immortal

Originally posted by yungz22
Barragan still engaged in hyperbole when he said it.


And Why are you only focusing on barragan. What about the other characters exaggerated their strength. everything cant be taken as fact immediately. They have to prove it with action or others have to bolster their statement if its to be believed as fact.

No. He. Didn't.

I already explained it, and you're biased fan tard opinion means nothing. It's not my fault if you're too dense to understand what hyperbole is.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No. He. Didn't.

I already explained it, and you're biased fan tard opinion means nothing. It's not my fault if you're too dense to understand what hyperbole is.


How does giving you examples of hyperbole make a fantard. On e again you belittle your credibility by trying to insult your opponent stuff like that only works on the playground. Killer bee and kenny arent even my fav characters from each show.....But anyways the man exaggerated his abilities thats exactly what hyperbole is about.

And your still only focusing on barragans example when the other ones are clear as day hyperbolic statements too. Its not about being a being a fantard you were right about gremmy its just it would be foolish to accept his statement immediaty without any proof.

http://www.mangapanda.com/94-29787-17/bleach/chapter-371.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-29787-20/bleach/chapter-371.html


http://www.mangapanda.com/94-36557-12/bleach/chapter-379.html ---yet noitora put up a better fight against kenny than he did and kenny said the fight against yammy was boring.
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-57804-9/bleach/chapter-422.html

http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/463/15 girko hyperole
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/463/16
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/463/17

http://www.mangapanda.com/94-779-16/bleach/chapter-325.html -findor hyperbole
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-779-19/bleach/chapter-325.html

all hyperbolic statements if you were to believe everything each one of these characters said immediately it wouldnt be smart

http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperbole


this is not about being a fanboy just facts

Originally posted by yungz22
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-29787-17/bleach/chapter-371.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-29787-20/bleach/chapter-371.html


http://www.mangapanda.com/94-36557-12/bleach/chapter-379.html ---yet noitora put up a better fight against kenny than he did and kenny said the fight against yammy was boring.
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-57804-9/bleach/chapter-422.html

http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/463/15 girko hyperole
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/463/16
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/463/17

http://www.mangapanda.com/94-779-16/bleach/chapter-325.html -findor hyperbole
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-779-19/bleach/chapter-325.html

all hyperbolic statements if you were to believe everything each one of these characters said immediately it wouldnt be smart

http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperbole


this is not about being a fanboy just facts

Why do I have to keep instructing you on simple English?

FOR THE LAST TIME, BEING COCKY=/=HYPERBOLE.

You should have the intelligence to understand the difference.

Barragan was in denial. He used to be a king, but was then reduced to a mere servant. He didn't think he could beat Aizen, he was pissed because he knew he couldn't.

Same thing with Giriko. The only difference is that he thought he could beat Kenny, because he had never met anyone stronger than him. BTW, you're also saying it was also hyperbole when Kenny said the fight would be boring, just because you were too stupid to know English.

Findor obviously did his research. He probably WAS about as strong as a captain was during the SS arc. However, everyone was training so much that they got strong enough to shit on that level of power, even the vice-captains like Hisagi. Not hyperbole, just underestimation.

That is the stupidest wiki thread I've ever seen. Literally ALL of the things it said was hyperbole were just dubbed that to underscore the feats and statements in anime/manga. For all I know, you probably wrote that retarded thread, because you're too stupid to know what hyperbole is.

Look, I already explained it, and every experienced poster on here knows who's right and who's wrong. I'm not your english teacher, so you can get back to thinking that everything anyone ever says is hyperbole.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Why do I have to keep instructing you on simple English?

FOR THE LAST TIME, BEING COCKY=/=HYPERBOLE.

You should have the intelligence to understand the difference.

Barragan was in denial. He used to be a king, but was then reduced to a mere servant. He didn't think he could beat Aizen, he was pissed because he knew he couldn't.

Same thing with Giriko. The only difference is that he thought he could beat Kenny, because he had never met anyone stronger than him. BTW, you're also saying it was also hyperbole when Kenny said the fight would be boring, just because you were too stupid to know English.

Findor obviously did his research. He probably WAS about as strong as a captain was during the SS arc. However, everyone was training so much that they got strong enough to shit on that level of power, even the vice-captains like Hisagi. Not hyperbole, just underestimation.

That is the stupidest wiki thread I've ever seen. Literally ALL of the things it said was hyperbole were just dubbed that to underscore the feats and statements in anime/manga. For all I know, you probably wrote that retarded thread, because you're too stupid to know what hyperbole is.

Look, I already explained it, and every experienced poster on here knows who's right and who's wrong. I'm not your english teacher, so you can get back to thinking that everything anyone ever says is hyperbole.



what are you talking aboyut hisagi himself said he is not as strong as a captian.
being cocky does not equal hyperbole but it is often the thing that leads to hyperbole. it is the characters mindset that you have to look at when determining hyperbole. people depending on how they are feeling or how they want to get their point across often exaggerate or in other words engage in hyperbole.

they all exaggerated their power. doesnt matter why they did it.
overexageration= hyperbole want me to go to the dictionary if you dont like wiki


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole?s=t ----" excess, exaggeration,"

http://m.dictionary.com/?q=hyperbole&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hyperbole

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/hyperbole ---oxford's dictionary

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/hyperbole "a way of emphasizing what you are saying by describing it as far more extreme than it really is"

http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/hyperbole "exxagerated style of speaking."

https://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/hyperbole

http://www.yourdictionary.com/hyperbole

http://www.onelook.com/?w=hyperbole&ls=a 35 different sources stating the overall same thing.

when you exaggerate something you are engaging in hyperbole it doesnt matter how or why you did it.
it is when things are represented as much greater or less, better or worse, than they really are for effect.
need i show you more lol.

im not even trying to insult you or anything like that im just trying to help you understand. That hyperbole and exageration are one.

do you really think that findor could have beaten or put up a fight against any of the captains during the ss arc? without showing any feats comparable to those captians during that time.

Originally posted by yungz22
what are you talking aboyut hisagi himself said he is not as strong as a captian.
being cocky does not equal hyperbole but it is often the thing that leads to hyperbole. it is the characters mindset that you have to look at when determining hyperbole. people depending on how they are feeling or how they want to get their point across often exaggerate or in other words engage in hyperbole.

they all exaggerated their power. doesnt matter why they did it.
overexageration= hyperbole want me to go to the dictionary if you dont like wiki


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole?s=t ----" excess, exaggeration,"

http://m.dictionary.com/?q=hyperbole&submit-result-SEARCHD=Search

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/hyperbole

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/hyperbole ---oxford's dictionary

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/hyperbole "a way of emphasizing what you are saying by describing it as far more extreme than it really is"

http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/hyperbole "exxagerated style of speaking."

https://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/hyperbole

http://www.yourdictionary.com/hyperbole

http://www.onelook.com/?w=hyperbole&ls=a 35 different sources stating the overall same thing.

when you exaggerate something you are engaging in hyperbole it doesnt matter how or why you did it.
it is when things are represented as much greater or less, better or worse, than they really are for effect.
need i show you more lol.

EXACTLY, YOU PHUCKING RETARD. Hisagi is stronger than captains during the SS arc, not the Aizen battle arc.

Literally ALL of those say specifically "Obvious and intentional exaggeration". None of the statements engaged in doing that. Barragan was in denial, and didn't exaggerate, because he literally THOUGHT that he was a god. Same with Findor, he didn't exaggerate, because he THOUGHT he was stronger than current captains. The SAME THING with Giriko, because he THOUGHT he was infinitely powerful.

JUST like it's the same situation with Kenpachi and Gremmy. Gremmy thought his power made him omnipotent, but he's getting beaten right now by Kenny.

For the last ****ing time, overconfidence=/=hyperbole.

Just so you don't reply back ignorantly, I'll give you an example of hyperbole.

In Naruto, when Zetsu said to Tobi, "Well sorry that I can't move at the friggen speed of light.", he was obviously exaggerating because Tobi was so fast, and he made so clear by using comedic undertones in his speech. It's also disproven because FTG is light speed, but Tobi's kamui couldn't catch it, even when already activated before FTG.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
EXACTLY, YOU PHUCKING RETARD. Hisagi is stronger than captains during the SS arc, not the Aizen battle arc.

Literally ALL of those say specifically "Obvious and intentional exaggeration". None of the statements engaged in doing that. Barragan was in denial, and didn't exaggerate, because he literally THOUGHT that he was a god. Same with Findor, he didn't exaggerate, because he THOUGHT he was stronger than current captains. The SAME THING with Giriko, because he THOUGHT he was infinitely powerful.

JUST like it's the same situation with Kenpachi and Gremmy. Gremmy thought his power made him omnipotent, but he's getting beaten right now by Kenny.

For the last ****ing time, overconfidence=/=hyperbole.

Just so you don't reply back ignorantly, I'll give you an example of hyperbole.

In Naruto, when Zetsu said to Tobi, "Well sorry that I can't move at the friggen speed of light.", he was obviously exaggerating because Tobi was so fast, and he made so clear by using comedic undertones in his speech. It's also disproven because FTG is light speed, but Tobi's kamui couldn't catch it, even when already activated before FTG.


on what grounds can you make the statement that hisagi is stronger than them. Hisagi is my favorite character in the show and i dont evven think hes captian level. He would get beat by all of the captians. He cant beat yamajii,kyoraku,ukitake,unohana,soifon,komammura,t
ousen,Kenpachi, byakuya, hitsuguys, Mayuri, gin or aizen seriously what has hisagi shown that equals the feats they perfomed during that arc. at best hes high tier vc level

i never said over confidence equals hyperbole. im saying that is what can lead to it. overconfidence can lead to you exagerating.

when you exaggerate that is hyperbole. barraagan is neither immortal nor a god. thus he engaged in hyperbole. is that not clear enough. sayign your immortal or you have infinite power or that your as strong as a captain when you are obivously not is a exaggeration. thus the character is engaging in hyperbole.

Originally posted by yungz22
on what grounds can you make the statement that hisagi is stronger than them. Hisagi is my favorite character in the show and i dont evven think hes captian level. He would get beat by all of the captians. He cant beat yamajii,kyoraku,ukitake,unohana,soifon,komammura,t
ousen,Kenpachi, byakuya, hitsuguys, Mayuri, gin or aizen seriously what has hisagi shown that equals the feats they perfomed during that arc. at best hes high tier vc level

i never said over confidence equals hyperbole. im saying that is what can lead to it. overconfidence can lead to you exagerating.

when you exaggerate that is hyperbole. barraagan is neither immortal nor a god. thus he engaged in hyperbole. is that not clear enough. sayign your immortal or you have infinite power or that your as strong as a captain when you are obivously not is a exaggeration. thus the character is engaging in hyperbole.

Yes, Hisagi at that level could beat a captain from the SS arc(other than Aizen). Hisagi casually beat a Fraccione in shikai, and Hitsugaya couldn't beat a normal arrancar with 30% of his strength, in bankai. Hisagi is stronger at that stage than Hitsugaya was during the SS arc. It's that simple.

Denial=/=hyperbole. Barragan wanted it to be true, because compared to every other arrancar, he WAS a god. Aizen was just a god compared to him.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yes, Hisagi at that level could beat a captain from the SS arc(other than Aizen). Hisagi casually beat a Fraccione in shikai, and Hitsugaya couldn't beat a normal arrancar with 30% of his strength, in bankai. Hisagi is stronger at that stage than Hitsugaya was during the SS arc. It's that simple.

Denial=/=hyperbole. Barragan wanted it to be true, because compared to every other arrancar, he WAS a god. Aizen was just a god compared to him.


ill say it again your mindstate is what leads to hyperbole. the man is exaggerating his ability. Just because you believe you are strong doesnt mean you arent exaggerating. whether you meant it or not doesnt mean it isnt an exaggeration.

the world english dictionary state that an exxageration is"to regard or represent as larger or greater, more important or more successful, etc, than is true"

you act like 30% is alot of power. smh thats l little bit more than a quarter of his strength of course he would have problems. look what happened as soon as the limiter went off one shot kill.

Hisagi didnt one shot findor.

hitsuguya would beat hisagi during the ss arc are you kidding me. where are the feats that hisagi has to show that he would beat hitsuguya. Remember that toshiro was fighting on par with gin using only his shikai. Gin was forced to use a distraction in order to escape. are you saying that hisagi could beat Ichimaru Gin.

your one of those people who can never admit they are wrong arent you. theres nothing wrong with being wrong about what hyperbole is. im just letting you know no insult intended or anything just letting you know.

Originally posted by yungz22
ill say it again your mindstate is what leads to hyperbole. the man is exaggerating his ability. Just because you believe you are strong doesnt mean you arent exaggerating. whether you meant it or not doesnt mean it isnt an exaggeration.

the world english dictionary state that an exxageration is"to regard or represent as larger or greater, more important or more successful, etc, than is true"

you act like 30% is alot of power. smh thats l little bit more than a quarter of his strength of course he would have problems. look what happened as soon as the limiter went off one shot kill.

Hisagi didnt one shot findor.

hitsuguya would beat hisagi during the ss arc are you kidding me. where are the feats that hisagi has to show that he would beat hitsuguya. Remember that toshiro was fighting on par with gin using only his shikai. Gin was forced to use a distraction in order to escape. are you saying that hisagi could beat Ichimaru Gin.

your one of those people who can never admit they are wrong arent you. theres nothing wrong with being wrong about what hyperbole is. im just letting you know no insult intended or anything just letting you know.

Exactly, but you, again, fail to understand any of what I just said. Falsely claiming something because of your state-of-mind is NOT the same as stating a fact. Yes, they were saying hyperbole(in the Barragan and Giriko cases), but they were doing so in denial, with a false sense of confidence. You're failing to realize that there's a difference between someone exaggerating their abilities due to overconfidence, and a person factually gauging their own abilities based on their knowledge.

Gremmy stated he was the strongest sternritter, and hadn't been disproven. The examples you're giving are LITERALLY based on the fact that they've been disproven, the SAME EXACT THING you're arguing against. If Giriko hadn't been shat on by Kenny, then we could have assumed he DID have unlimited power, just because of his fullbring.

30% IS a lot of power. They were three times stronger when the seal was released, and the arrancar's were obviously NOT that much stronger than them. However, that still means he's not even TWICE as strong as that weak arrancar, even while Hitsugaya's in his fully released bankai form. Hisagi shat on Findor, someone who had his strength gauged on the strength level of captains from that time. Again though, the levels of power differed SEVERELY from when Toshiro wasn't twice as strong as a lowly arrancar, to when he could defeat the third espada. This isn't a difficult concept to understand.

I feel bad for you, really. I feel bad for you, because you can't understand such a simple principal.

(Face palm) your one of those people who disregard facts theres literally no point in having a civil debate with you. Dancing around facts is a childish mentality that gets you nowhere.

Hyperbole doesnt have prerequisite it is literally a synonym for exageration but i guess In your case you say even the dictionary is wrong. As long as im right.

Dude really 30% is alot? You could make mike tyson punch feal like feathers if you took 70% of his punching power away.
Im gonna ask 3 basic questions regarding the hisagi thing

1. What feats does hisagi have that equate him to toshiro? Before You answer take into consideration and realize that same arc toshiro beat luppi who was espada no.6 at the time..... Hisagi isnt beating any of the espada except maybe aaroniero.
2. During the ss arc toshiro fought on par with gin both using shikai. Gin would beat him if he were to go all out due to sheer battle experience but fighting on par with him is still a feat in itself. Toshiro forced gin to use diversionary tactics in order to escape..... Hisagi has never shown any capabilities of doing the same

3. If findor is as strong as your implying why wasnt he appointed espada no. 6? Aizen created him and knew of his abilities.


But then again like i said you gonna come up with some cockamamy recant that goes against logic and lacks evidence to support that claim..... Anything to be right? Im not tryna insult you or anything but cmon just stop lol

I havent been on here in a while i just wanna put my two cents in.

I think what yungz is focusing on is the exaggeration not if theyve be proven or not disproven gogeta.

Hyperbole is overexaggeration. I just looked it up and like he said the two are literally synonyms for each other.

Originally posted by yungz22
(Face palm) your one of those people who disregard facts theres literally no point in having a civil debate with you. Dancing around facts is a childish mentality that gets you nowhere.

Hyperbole doesnt have prerequisite it is literally a synonym for exageration but i guess In your case you say even the dictionary is wrong. As long as im right.

Dude really 30% is alot? You could make mike tyson punch feal like feathers if you took 70% of his punching power away.
Im gonna ask 3 basic questions regarding the hisagi thing

1. What feats does hisagi have that equate him to toshiro? Before You answer take into consideration and realize that same arc toshiro beat luppi who was espada no.6 at the time..... Hisagi isnt beating any of the espada except maybe aaroniero.
2. During the ss arc toshiro fought on par with gin both using shikai. Gin would beat him if he were to go all out due to sheer battle experience but fighting on par with him is still a feat in itself. Toshiro forced gin to use diversionary tactics in order to escape..... Hisagi has never shown any capabilities of doing the same

3. If findor is as strong as your implying why wasnt he appointed espada no. 6? Aizen created him and knew of his abilities.


But then again like i said you gonna come up with some cockamamy recant that goes against logic and lacks evidence to support that claim..... Anything to be right? Im not tryna insult you or anything but cmon just stop lol

I swear to god, you have to be the sole dumbest person on this site.

1. 30% is a lot when people throw around town busting attacks.

2. Hisagi beat someone much stronger than Toshiro nearly lost to.

3. Gin was toying with him.

4. He wasn't appointed to Espada, because he was a fraccione. Not to mention that he was nowhere near the current espada level. You're forgetting Noiitora's statement that "We espada don't stay the same, we evolve and get progressively much stronger over time.", which is why he, espada number 5 was able to defeat Nel, espada number 3, even while she was ressurectioned and he wasn't.

5. Are you saying that if someone thinks something is true, and it really isn't, that the person is lying? No, they were incorrect. Just like with Hyperbole. It even says SPECIFICALLY IN THE DICTIONARY, that it's INTENTIONAL exaggeration.

Phucking retard.

Originally posted by chasedown
I havent been on here in a while i just wanna put my two cents in.

I think what yungz is focusing on is the exaggeration not if theyve be proven or not disproven gogeta.

Hyperbole is overexaggeration. I just looked it up and like he said the two are literally synonyms for each other.

Yes, but you can at least see where I'm going with this, right?

Hyperbole, like ANY incorrect validation of speech, has to be intentional. If it's not, then it's not hyperbole. Just like a lie. If you don't mean to lie, because you think what you're saying is true, then it's not a lie.

I mean come on, this is one of the simplest concepts in English.

At least you kind of get it though.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yes, but you can at least see where I'm going with this, right?

Hyperbole, like ANY incorrect validation of speech, has to be intentional. If it's not, then it's not hyperbole. Just like a lie. If you don't mean to lie, because you think what you're saying is true, then it's not a lie.

I mean come on, this is one of the simplest concepts in English.

At least you kind of get it though.



I know what your saying and respectfully disagree thats just it hyperbole doesnt have to be intentional. If you say stuff like im a god or my power is infinite or i cant die those are exaggerations of your actual capabilities.

I know what your saying though its not stupid of you to think that way.
All of those guys were exaggerating

Originally posted by chasedown
I know what your saying and respectfully disagree thats just it hyperbole doesnt have to be intentional. If you say stuff like im a god or my power is infinite or i cant die those are exaggerations of your actual capabilities.

I know what your saying though its not stupid of you to think that way.
All of those guys were exaggerating

"Hyperbole, like ANY incorrect validation of speech, has to be intentional. If it's not, then it's not hyperbole. Just like a lie. If you don't mean to lie, because you think what you're saying is true, then it's not a lie.

I mean come on, this is one of the simplest concepts in English."

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
"Hyperbole, like ANY incorrect validation of speech, has to be intentional. If it's not, then it's not hyperbole. Just like a lie. If you don't mean to lie, because you think what you're saying is true, then it's not a lie.

I mean come on, this is one of the simplest concepts in English."




lol it is still a lie you just didnt mean to lie.

Originally posted by chasedown
lol it is still a lie you just didnt mean to lie.

Nope. A lie is intentionally telling something that isn't true.

I take back what I said about you knowing a little about what you're talking about. You obviously don't.

So you think that barragan as he was literally dying actually thought he was immortal even though he was cursing hachi for doing what he did to him. Its obviously overexaggeration anyone who trys to make an excuse for him. Is blind and close minded.

Your literally making it seem as barragan had the mind of a 8 year old

Cmon bro just think rationally

Originally posted by chasedown
So you think that barragan as he was literally dying actually thought he was immortal even though he was cursing hachi for doing what he did to him. Its obviously overexaggeration anyone who trys to make an excuse for him. Is blind and close minded.

Your literally making it seem as barragan had the mind of a 8 year old

Cmon bro just think rationally

Are you phucking retarded?

I've already explained this "bro".

Barragan didn't want to accept the fact that he wasn't a god, because he was so used to being considered as one by everyone else.

IF you can't see THAT, you're in as much denial as he was.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Are you phucking retarded?

I've already explained this "bro".

Barragan didn't want to accept the fact that he wasn't a god, because he was so used to being considered as one by everyone else.

IF you can't see THAT, you're in as much denial as he was.

Thats all speculation derived to save yourself from thinking its hyperbole.

So what your saying is even though barragan knew there were others strong enough to kill him he still thinks he cant die?

Is that you logic.

Same thing with hisagi your whole argument about him is based on purely speculation without any evidence. How can you say aizen didnt make findor number 6 because he was a fraccion and still say that findor is stronger than a captain. Thats literrally oxymornic logic that makes no sense.

Originally posted by chasedown
Thats all speculation derived to save yourself from thinking its hyperbole.

So what your saying is even though barragan knew there were others strong enough to kill him he still thinks he cant die?

Is that you logic.

Same thing with hisagi your whole argument about him is based on purely speculation without any evidence. How can you say aizen didnt make findor number 6 because he was a fraccion and still say that findor is stronger than a captain. Thats literrally oxymornic logic that makes no sense.

How hard is it to get this?

Barragan WAS IN DENIAL. He knew deep-down that he could be killed, but his ego wouldn't let him admit it. It's exactly the same as all the times Vegeta said Goku was nothing to him, despite losing to him and being much weaker, dozens of times. His pride wouldn't let him accept it, just like Barragan's wouldn't.

I don't know if "that is me logic", because that doesn't make any sense.

No evidence? My evidence was the sole fact that a captain using bankai with 33% of his power was casually beaten by a weak arrancar, and that Hisagi casually beat a Fraccione that stated to be equal to captain strength. What you're forgetting is that he didn't engage in hyperbole because he gave an accurate description of his power. Again though, there is a MASSIVE difference from the captains that were weaker than Arrancar's and SS arc Shikai Ichigo, and the captains that handily fought and defeated high ranking espada. They got vastly stronger, so it makes sense that Vice captains became stronger than captains used to be.

Also, in that case, why weren't Renji, Yumichika, Ikkaku and Yachiru made into captains, when all four were demonstrably much stronger than captains at that point? Simply because they weren't. It has nothing to do with how strong they are. I mean look at Naruto, he's a gennin and he's still able to casually bat away kage+ level ninja like they're nothing.

Lol im done i said my points but Whatever lets Agree to disagree you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it.

You are very strong willed which can be a double edged at times because it can sometimes lead you to make no sense whatsoever lol

If we keep going were just gonna be talking in circles.

Originally posted by chasedown
Lol im done i said my points but Whatever lets Agree to disagree you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink it.

You are very strong willed which can be a double edged at times because it can sometimes lead you to make no sense whatsoever lol

If we keep going were just gonna be talking in circles.

There's nothing to disagree or agree about. You still ignore the sheer fact that "a captain using bankai with 33% of his power was casually beaten by a weak arrancar, and that Hisagi casually beat a Fraccione that stated to be equal to captain strength. What you're forgetting is that he didn't engage in hyperbole because he gave an accurate description of his power. Again though, there is a MASSIVE difference from the captains that were weaker than Arrancar's and SS arc Shikai Ichigo, and the captains that handily fought and defeated high ranking espada. They got vastly stronger, so it makes sense that Vice captains became stronger than captains used to be.".

So basically, I hereby accept your concession.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
There's nothing to disagree or agree about. You still ignore the sheer fact that "a captain using bankai with 33% of his power was casually beaten by a weak arrancar, and that Hisagi casually beat a Fraccione that stated to be equal to captain strength. What you're forgetting is that he didn't engage in hyperbole because he gave an accurate description of his power. Again though, there is a MASSIVE difference from the captains that were weaker than Arrancar's and SS arc Shikai Ichigo, and the captains that handily fought and defeated high ranking espada. They got vastly stronger, so it makes sense that Vice captains became stronger than captains used to be.".

So basically, I hereby accept your concession.
We disagree on the hyperbole but its whatever i tire of this subject and its no point in taking up all the pages and arguing in circles. Its like a dog chasing his tail.

You act as is 33% is alot of power though. Hitsuguya was greatly handicapped 70% power loss is devastating in any sense real world and fiction. Take 70% percent of power away from anything and it will be a mere shell of itself. Heck even the hiroshima bomb wouldnt have done much damage with only 30% power. Hell look what happens to ichigo when he cant fight at full power.Also once we see that handicap come off his opponent was oneshotted. Which is more than hisagi did with findor.

You have to understand that not much time really passed between the two arcs and Weve never seen hisagi state he was training before then nor have we seen him. Nor was he ever promoted to captain while tousen was gone. so to say he increased his power exponentially to that extent is based on pure speculation an baseless. He just doesnt have feats that equal to the captains during the ss arc.