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Omega Vision
Non Abstracts. Discuss.

SoulDevourer
Nero aint abstract iirc

Omega Vision
You mean Neron? He's certainly an abstract. At least he has Abstract level power.

Zeuodin
PC Validus, PC OMEGA

Omega Vision
Anyone current though?

SoulDevourer
Nerons abstract power? huh is this becuz he seperated specter from the host? thats his only "abstract lvl" showin iirc and it aint THAT impressive (specters power lvl vary to much)

Omega Vision
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
Nerons abstract power? huh is this becuz he seperated specter from the host? thats his only "abstract lvl" showin iirc and it aint THAT impressive (specters power lvl vary to much)
No his host of other abilities and station as the King of Hell make him Abstract level. Without the help of the Spear of Destiny when has a non Abstract separated the Spectre from its host?

SoulDevourer
but dint the specter consent to be separate from the host? it made a deal with Nero or somethin

nicamarvin
Trion Juggernaut,
Demogorge(Classic)
Asguardian Destroyer(FP)

Omega Vision
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
but dint the specter consent to be separate from the host? it made a deal with Nero or somethin
It doesn't really matter. The Spectre couldn't separate from its host on its own power. The fact Neron could do it (even with the Spectre's consent) means that he has power to work directly against God's will.

SoulDevourer
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It doesn't really matter. The Spectre couldn't separate from its host on its own power. The fact Neron could do it (even with the Spectre's consent) means that he has power to work directly against God's will. alrite so what wuz Specters power lvl? like, how much backing from Presence? was it the Specter who got put in a cage by EJ or the Specter who depower mxy?
see it depends erm

Omega Vision
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
alrite so what wuz Specters power lvl? like, how much backing from Presence? was it the Specter who got put in a cage by EJ or the Specter who depower mxy?
see it depends erm
At his lowest level the Spectre is still above High Herald (and that's his lowest) at his highest he's capable of shattering and piecing back together all of creation and when he merged with the Source he briefly became God.
On average the Spectre is above skyfather level and when bloodlusted he's pretty unstoppable. Emperor Joker rolled over everyone but the Presence probably wasn't backing him fully. It's only my theory (by no means canon) but I think the Presence didn't stop EJ so that Mxy would learn his lesson that he can't dick around and there are consequences for his actions.

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