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1, Pre Shaman vs Classic Thor

2. Shaman Nate vs Classic Thor


Who wins?

1 Thor 9/10
2 Thor 6/10
3 + 4 = Common.

Um I believe Thor is susceptible to Mind****ing... so X-Man ftw in either.

I agree Thor has a weak mind. Nate ftw.

Originally posted by shokosugi
I agree Thor has a weak mind. Nate ftw.

I disagree.

Superman 10/10.

Originally posted by id369
I disagree.

Superman 10/10.

Originally posted by id369
I disagree.

Superman 10/10. Shaman its more versatile than thor, he will find a way.............like stop time and rearange thors molecule....

Originally posted by id369
I disagree.

Superman 10/10.

well of course Superman 10/10

Originally posted by shokosugi
I agree Thor has a weak mind. Nate ftw. Thor was always influence by magic, most of it was by Loki. Would Nate Grey abilities work on Thor?

Worst I seen was Thor being depress after killing Bor, he lost the will to fight anyone, but gotten over it in his latest annual.

Thor had high & low showing time to time, he had the balls to pull out both his eyes to excel above Odin as RTK.

I don't think Thor is weak minded at all, Nate Grey might hold his ground, but long term, Thor wins~

Nate > Superman

Originally posted by id369
I disagree.

Superman 10/10. laughing

is mary jane the new venom?

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7449/1038006-shevenomrumor_super.jpg

Thor absorbs mind energy I guess.

Get back to the topic and stop spamming.

thor 10/10
thor 8/10

badabing has the right idea


but I agree

Thor stomps
He's like.. Asgardian and has a really menacing stare

Shaman Nate has a chance of defeating Thor, but on average I give it to Thor. (Nate's winning would revolve around using deceptive/mind manipulation of some kind, but that's not 100% reliable, and with someone with power like Thor's, trickery/manipulation can have nasty collateral effects...)

Thor has daddy issues.

That's why the insecure prick caries a friggin hammer around.

Thor has good mc skills

The upcoming Dark X-Men mini, should gives us a good idea of how much Nate has progressed. He is taking on the Dark X-Men. Only to take on Dark X-Men and Dark Avengers.

The first issue of dark xmen doesn't tell us much...

And to be honest I've always felt that Nate would do well against thunderstrike
lose a small amount to brb who o believe is the equivalent to holocaust

and loses the majority to Thor...

Nate at peak is like Thor on average

I lol'd.

Originally posted by id369
The upcoming Dark X-Men mini, should gives us a good idea of how much Nate has progressed. He is taking on the Dark X-Men. Only to take on Dark X-Men and Dark Avengers.
Pretty sure Nate and Thor area already more than capable of doing that.

Originally posted by rotiart


Nate at peak is like Thor on average um no. just no.

Originally posted by rotiart
The first issue of dark xmen doesn't tell us much...

And to be honest I've always felt that Nate would do well against thunderstrike
lose a small amount to brb who o believe is the equivalent to holocaust

and loses the majority to Thor...

Nate at peak is like Thor on average

You're overestimating Holocaust.

It's Thor -> Nate/BRB -> Thunderstrike/Holocaust in my opinion.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You're overestimating Holocaust.

It's Thor -> Nate/BRB -> Thunderstrike/Holocaust in my opinion. peak nate is greater than thor

Originally posted by Starscream M
peak nate is greater than thor
You say that, but you don't read comics.

Didnt Nate also stood up to Thanos?

Originally posted by The Nuul
Didnt Nate also stood up to Thanos?
Not quite.

He and Hulk stopped a Thanos clone from entering our universe or somesuch. Good showing for Thanos' tp resistance. Even with his defenses down entering his mind would've made Nate go mad.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You say that, but you don't read comics. yes I do. FP Nate rivals Phoenix in power.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes I do. FP Nate rivals Phoenix in power.

That he sure does not.

Being too powerful for Moira's machines to measure does not put him on level with the Phoenix. By applying some pretty basic math we'll reach the conclusion that this does not support your statement.

Say that Moira's equipment can measure power level up to 50. Phoenix' power level as 200 000 and Nate Grey's power level is 60. Do this over and over for a couple of seconds and you'll get it.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze


Say that Moira's equipment can measure power level up to 50. Phoenix' power level as 200 000 and Nate Grey's power level is 60. Do this over and over for a couple of seconds and you'll get it. but you're just making those numbers up

what if moiras machine measures up to 150,000. and nate is over that, than he would rival phoenix.

also Queen Jean implied Nate was the most powerful telepath

Originally posted by Starscream M
but you're just making those numbers up

what if moiras machine measures up to 150,000. and nate is over that, than he would rival phoenix.

also Queen Jean implied Nate was the most powerful telepath

No shit Einstein, the actual numbers was an example of how they could both be too powerful for Moira's machine and still be far from equal. It's not evidence of them being equal in power. How on earth could you not understand that? I got it when I was like 10!

1thor 7/10
2Nate 7/10

thor should beat normal Nate.

shaman takes the majority