It's over 9000!!!!!!!

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A lot of people ask who the strongest Star Wars character was or why, and the flawed imperfect answers often make me feel either smart or stupid, stupid for being alone in my genious, and I think it's time I shared my knowledge of the Force, observe kids.

It's not necessarily a question of feats, displays of power or force sensitivity, it's whoever had possession of the most force energy at any given point in time in the canon history of the Galaxy. And the answer is not who you'd think, in fact, it's a Sith Lord who doesn't really listen to the innumerable warnings given by his elders as much as his own stomach as it were, this results in his death, kind of, it's complicated. (NO ITS NOT ANAKIN!)

To build suspense I'm going to let you guys guess who it was before giving you the answer and exposing the plethora of evidence to back it up.

I hope you are as excited as I am! READY! SET! GUESS!!!

truejedi
It was Luke Skywalker. Q.E.D.

Red Nemesis
It was Darth (my)REVAN.

One Free Man
My character in star wars galaxies, of course, you ****s. it was named bandon9000666777158278669696696 and had epic oozing from every pore and body cavity.

ares834
Originally posted by \\S//

It's not necessarily a question of feats, displays of power or force sensitivity, it's whoever had possession of the most force energy at any given point in time in the canon history of the Galaxy.
SO help me god it better not be Jacen...

mattatom
Originally posted by One Free Man
My character in star wars galaxies, of course, you ****s. it was named bandon9000666777158278669696696 and had epic oozing from every pore and body cavity.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
thumb upthumb upthumb upthumb upthumb upthumb upthumb upthumb upthumb upthumb up times infinity infinity times to the infinitieth power infinity times. Nemesis and I approve.

Weltall
Tell us already!!!

Slash_KMC
Nemesis is right on this one.

It's Revan isn't it? Just say it's him and I won't shout at you.

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It was actually Darth Nihilus.There are three ways to grow stronger in the force, normally a Jedi will train, this transfers the midi-chlorians in their bodies into raw force energy. Another way is to transcend into the and retain your identity as a spirit aka a force ghost, this transcends all of ones midi-chlorians into force energy instantly, and you will become as powerful in the force as it is possible given the amount midi-chlorians in ones body at the time in which they transcend. But there's a third way to obtain force energy, perhaps the most potent, you transfer the force energies obtained by other force sensitives into your own identity, this process generates a force bond between one and the individual in which he or she stole the force energy from if they survive.Darth Nihilus stole the force enrgy from an entire species of force sensitives at once, this vast absorption of force energy was greater than the amount Darth Plagious used to endow Anakin Skywalker with more midi-chlorians than anyone.

Slash_KMC
God damnit.

*shouts*

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Although after Darth Nihilus stole the energy of the Mariluka species and entered God-hood, he realized there was a bit of a problem, one of the Mariluka, Visas Maars, survived the drain, meaning that Darth Nihilus now had a force bond with her, when she died, his spirit would leave his enchanted armor, the armor would be destroyed, and he would become permanent force ghost unless he had a clone of himself didn't the clone sickness.

On another subject, when Anakin became a force ghost he had only transfered about 10% of the midi-chlorians he had at birth into force energy, and he had lost about 30% of his cells, which means that, in becoming a force ghost, he had transfered about 70% of his original number of midi-chlorians into force energy. Still greater than the spirits of Palpatine, and even Yoda, but Luke barely surpassed that 70% by the time of the Fate Of The Jedi series.

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Originally posted by truejedi
It was Luke Skywalker. Q.E.D.

Luke Skywalker by the time of Fate Of The Jedi possessed more raw force energy then non-spirit entity in Star Wars, but Darth Nihilus contained, post becoming a ghost and inhabiting his armor, after take the combined force energies that a million or so force sensitives possessed, purely wielded more force energy and physical power, although Luke Skywalker could just kill Visas Marrs and end Nihilus.

Lord Lucien
"Obi-Wan, what does the read-out say about his Midichlorian level?"

"It's over twenty thousaaaannnd!"

Red Nemesis
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9806/responsecopy.th.jpg

Screenshott'd to workaround the smiley limit which apparently kicks in before the sixth term of the Fibonacci sequence?

Also: Prove it.

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In episode V Yoda explains that the force is a omnipresent form of energy that inhabits all matter and gives it mass. Yoda explains that all forms of matter can be manipulated at the expense of force energy, and that a rock can be lifted in the exact same way as an X-Wing Starfighter, and the reason that some objects are harder to manipulate than others is not because of a difference in size but because of a difference in the force energy inhabiting that object. So how do Jedi gain more Force energy than they originally had? In Episode I Qui-Gon Gen vaguely implied that midi-chlorians were a form of money which can buy force energy, this was hinted when he claimed the higher your midi-chlorian count is, the higher your force sensistivity, while also claiming that the force is not exclusive to midi-chlorians. To be continued in my next post.

Red Nemesis
The Force is the Higgs-Boson?

sweet life!

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In episode II Yoda explains that when an individual dies they transcend into the force, this can't be because they're don't disappear and go into. Maybe what Yoda meant was that the midi-chlorians in their bodies are all transfered back into force energy. In the Return of The Jedi director's commentary George Lucas describes a force ghost as a Jedi who has retained their identity in this process. To be continued next post.

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Originally posted by Red Nemesis
The Force is the Higgs-Boson?

sweet life!

Star Wars only has one wave phenomenon, not space time, not the Higgs Field, just the omnipresent force, according to George Lucas.

Lord Lucien
So... that would mean every time a Jedi dies of lasers, they're actually dieing of concentrated Force beams? Pfff, Jedi...

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From the film's standpoint it is not evidenced that a Jedi Spirit possesses any force energy, but in EU literature, namely Dark Empire,this is not the case. After Palpatine died at the battle of Endor, he became a dark force ghost, and then when he inhabited his sick clone he seemed to be more powerful than ever, suggesting his midi-chlorians were transfered into force energy, but the energy was retained in his spirit. To be continued next post.

Red Nemesis
Note: connection with the Force, not are the Force. But this is interesting. Keep going.

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In KoToR II Darth Traya described how Darth Nihilus could not only strip others of their obtained force energies but take their energies for himself and kill by draining their life force too. KoToR II also introduced the existence force bonds in which two individuals become linked by their force energies after one of them is stripped from their connection of the, sometimes a force bond is brought about in the event that one takes another's force energy for themselves and the other survives the encounter, in the case of Darth Nihilus and Visas.

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This evidence brings some credibility to my second post, the post in which I explain how Darth Nihilus' powerlevel is in fact...OVER NINE THOOOOUUUUUUSSSSSAAAAANNNDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

truejedi
it is interesting.i disagree, but am interested.

soon to be obsolete,though since abeloth is about to become the be-all, end-all.

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Originally posted by truejedi
it is interesting.i agree, and I am interested.
Fixed because opinions are not as accurate as facts.

truejedi
exactly. so why make this thread? You essentially just stated your own actions.

MasterAshenVor
Edit. exactly. so why make this thread? You essentially just stated your own OPINIONS

MasterAshenVor
Fixed because opinions are not as accurate as facts.


You just hanged yourself with your own rope my friend.

Lord Lucien
The f*ck?

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At least we can all except the fact Luke was the most powerful Jedi.

Slash_KMC
Yes. Also, accept.

One Free Man
Originally posted by \\S//
This evidence brings some credibility to my second post, the post in which I explain how Darth Nihilus' powerlevel is in fact...OVER NINE THOOOOUUUUUUSSSSSAAAAANNNDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 I think he's talking about millipower levels.

I don't see nihilus even standing up while goku is in the room, therefor he can't be close to nine thousand.


oh and for the record, goku's the shit.

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I've been lying this whole, I've claimed that Darth Nihilus and Luke Skywalker possessed the greatest magnitude of force energy, when in fact (my) Sith Stalker, after I beat the entire Force Unleashed Ultimate Sith Edition trilogy on Sith Master difficulty at maximum and amped him with every force, saber and energy upgrade available, plus the bonus Sith Stalker armor and the black lightsaber.

I doubt if every member of the Jedi High Council at their strongest point in the History of the Galaxy (22 BBY) would dare confront a fully amped Sith Stalker unless they were escorted by a couple of Republic platoons.

Nephthys
Nah, my Sithly Exile would kick da crap outta joo!!

Maximised Force Storm ftpwnage!!!!! 'AND THE RIVERS RAN REEEEDDDD!!!!!!!!'

SIDIOUS 66
Is this a joke?

Nephthys
No, but Darth Sexy is.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah, my Sithly Exile would kick da crap outta joo!!

Maximised Force Storm ftpwnage!!!!! 'AND THE RIVERS RAN REEEEDDDD!!!!!!!!'

Level three lightning shield repel, force tremer sends your Exile airborn, then the Sith Stalker jumps, crabs and uber body slams the Exile's ass, when he or she on the ground reeling, the Stalker stabs your Exile in the chest, bye bye.

truejedi
wow.

Slash_KMC
I know.

One Free Man
Originally posted by \\S//
I've been lying this whole, I've claimed that Darth Nihilus and Luke Skywalker possessed the greatest magnitude of force energy, when in fact (my) Sith Stalker, after I beat the entire Force Unleashed Ultimate Sith Edition trilogy on Sith Master difficulty at maximum and amped him with every force, saber and energy upgrade available, plus the bonus Sith Stalker armor and the black lightsaber.

I doubt if every member of the Jedi High Council at their strongest point in the History of the Galaxy (22 BBY) would dare confront a fully amped Sith Stalker unless they were escorted by a couple of Republic platoons. heh you probably failed that game on easy.

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Originally posted by One Free Man
heh you probably failed that game on easy.

Cheat codes man, cheat codes.

Darth_Glentract
Originally posted by \\S//
It was actually Darth Nihilus.

...or Darth Sidious.

Originally posted by \\S//
There are three ways to grow stronger in the force, normally a Jedi will train, this transfers the midi-chlorians in their bodies into raw force energy.

This sounds explanation sounds a little flawed to me. I'd say it's more like they use the midi-clorians to transfer Force energy into some other form of energy (kinetic or electrical. or even psychic).

Originally posted by \\S//
Another way is to transcend into the and retain your identity as a spirit aka a force ghost, this transcends all of ones midi-chlorians into force energy instantly, and you will become as powerful in the force as it is possible given the amount midi-chlorians in ones body at the time in which they transcend.

Midi-clorians do not become Force energy. People do not "burn" them up. People don't really hold a large amount of power as ghosts, otherwise Nadd, Exar, Sadow, and other Sith Lords would have pwned up on the living. They also would have had no reason to attempt to become alive again (which they often tried to do). The same is true for Sidious. He needed clone bodies.

Originally posted by \\S//
But there's a third way to obtain force energy, perhaps the most potent, you transfer the force energies obtained by other force sensitives into your own identity, this process generates a force bond between one and the individual in which he or she stole the force energy from if they survive.

They don't really keep this Force energy though. It's not like he took their midi-clorians.

Originally posted by \\S//
Darth Nihilus stole the force enrgy from an entire species of force sensitives at once, this vast absorption of force energy was greater than the amount Darth Plagious used to endow Anakin Skywalker with more midi-chlorians than anyone.

He didn't take their midi-clorians, so he didn't become all that much stronger from it.

While I do think Nihilus is extremely powerful, he hasn't shown that he is superior to Sidious.

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