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Mad Jim Jaspers, Emporer Joker, Franklin Richards, The Mask

pre retcon Beyonder

Originally posted by Parmaniac
pre retcon Beyonder doubt it.


also is molecular manipulation the same as reality manipulation????

Thanos w/heart of the universe.

wow ur team is pretty powerful...
but...
Mandrakk, someone with Infinity Gauntlet, Michael, Lucifer, Primal Monitor, Presence, someone with the Ultimate Nullifier(?), HoM Wanda, Anti-Monitor(?), Great Evil Beast, Cosmic Armor supes, PR Beyonder and Molecule man, someone with the heart of the universe, the Nemesis, Alien Entity and the Word

can solo(? indicates that im not sure)there are probably more though

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
doubt it.


also is molecular manipulation the same as reality manipulation????

I think he would

after MM shoed up again in Dark Avengers I asked myself the same question it seems you can alter reality with a Matter manip. powerset but I'm not sure

Originally posted by galactusischere
wow ur team is pretty powerful...
but...
Mandrakk, someone with Infinity Gauntlet, Michael, Lucifer, Primal Monitor, Presence, someone with the Ultimate Nullifier(?), HoM Wanda, Anti-Monitor(?), Cosmic Armor supes, PR Beyonder, someone with the heart of the universe, the Nemesis, Alien Entity and the Word

can solo(? indicates that im not sure)there are probably more though doubt they could do it

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
doubt it.


also is molecular manipulation the same as reality manipulation????
Pre-retcon Beyonder was equal to TOAA.
He was so powerful that LT was scared of him to act.
No character is more powerful than Beyonder(save Primal-Monitor).
Supreme beings can only hope to stalemate him

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
doubt they could do it

AM can't ur right.
UN MIGHT be able to. though im sure Mandrakk and CA supes can

IMO Reality is very different from matter manip. Sure you can make a flower out of nothing or air but with reality manip you can make people feel/believe different things with is greater than matter manipulation.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
IMO Reality is very different from matter manip. Sure you can make a flower out of nothing or air but with reality manip you can make people feel/believe different things with is greater than matter manipulation.

In theory MM in his last showing could do the same, he was able to read Normans mind and explained it that he could do it cause his brain is made out of molecules so by that it's not far fetched IMO that he can rearrange/alter the molecules to alter the memories/thoughts of a person aswell

If someone can beat Joker, then they can beat the rest. Those guys wont make a difference. Mandrakk, Superman with Ca, PM, HOTU user.

hey whats the deal with this sis-neg character???its confusing because they have him the creator of the universe and at the end of they cycle he absrobs it and creates a new one???

Originally posted by xJLxKing
If someone can beat Joker, then they can beat the rest. Those guys wont make a difference. Mandrakk, Superman with Ca, PM, HOTU user. those guys wont make a difference??? if you can beat joker it doesnt mean your beating all of them at the same time

thats like saying if you can beat superman than 6 supermans wont make a difference

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
those guys wont make a difference??? if you can beat joker it doesnt mean your beating all of them at the same time

thats like saying if you can beat superman than 6 supermans wont make a difference

EJ is the most poweful but they all matter in this fight.
Sise-Neg and Spectre with backing can do it too BTW

Originally posted by galactusischere
wow ur team is pretty powerful...
but...
Mandrakk, someone with Infinity Gauntlet, Michael, Lucifer, Primal Monitor, Presence, someone with the Ultimate Nullifier(?), HoM Wanda, Anti-Monitor(?), Great Evil Beast, Cosmic Armor supes, PR Beyonder and Molecule man, someone with the heart of the universe, the Nemesis, Alien Entity and the Word

can solo(? indicates that im not sure)there are probably more though None of them but Mandrakk could. And Maybe the heart.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
None of them but Mandrakk could. And Maybe the heart.
...
PM, PR Beyonder and MM, Presence, and CA Supes can't?
all of them except the ones on my list that don't have a question mark can.
Mandrakk was only a part of the PM. Beyonder is the most powerul character in comics EVER..