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I know it's still a little early, but I figured I'd go ahead and make the threat since it's interesting to see how the odds change as each new pick is drafted. So far the participants are...

Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna, Tangent Superman

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Eradicator

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman, Infinity Man

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar, Onslaught

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman, Martian Manhunter

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki, Atrocitus

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Nate Grey, Adam Warlock


Discuss.

Ha-son and dickidus will not win.

As a judge for this thing, I feel less inclined to take sides at all. Nothing can be ascertained by first picks anyway. Of those, however, Superman has the most weaknesses that will need covered. If they are, he's got as much power as anyone on the list, so it's not necessarily a bad pick. Just a riskier one.

Also, historically, Thor is great for getting you into the finals. Usually losing in the finals, granted. Thor has a win, and something like four 2nd place finishes. But I'm guessing that would be a good showing for Jake and Kris.

Originally posted by Digi
Also, historically, Thor is great for getting you into the finals. Usually losing in the finals, granted. Thor has a win, and something like four 2nd place finishes. But I'm guessing that would be a good showing for Jake and Kris.


Let's not forget how much Batdude loves Superman. If he's judging, it oughta even out.

Tangent Superman. The plot thickens...mmm

Originally posted by Badabing
Tangent Superman. The plot thickens...mmm We ended up keeping Genis-Vell.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'd go ahead and make the threat freudian slip?

;\

Silver Surfer and Tanget Superman are going to be hard to beat.

Tangent Superman isn't in this. It's Genis we ended up drafting.

Confirmed Teams and Drafted Characters


Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL)

Team darthgoober/Blair Wind - Silver Surfer

Team Omega Vision & JL - Wally West (Flash)

Team JaketheBank & Kris Blaze - Thor

Team Twig & Berries (Ha Son and Validus) - Superman

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell

Draft Round 2: Monday, Dec. 21 8pm EST

Some interesting choices so far... mmm

Originally posted by -Pr-
Some interesting choices so far... mmm

Disagree. The draft list has read like a Who's Who of well-known tourney draft picks. Not that it's bad, mind you. I'm as big a culprit as any of always targeting Thor in drafts, for example (who is, besides Surfer, the only other "so useful he must be taken at some point" pick of the heralds). But as soon as somebody drafts Space Phantom, then I'll be impressed.

Originally posted by Digi
Disagree. The draft list has read like a Who's Who of well-known tourney draft picks. Not that it's bad, mind you. I'm as big a culprit as any of always targeting Thor in drafts, for example (who is, besides Surfer, the only other "so useful he must be taken" pick of the heralds). But as soon as somebody drafts Space Phantom, then I'll be impressed.



actually, i meant it in the context of who drafted who. Like, Omega drafting Wally, for instance.

Originally posted by Digi
Disagree. The draft list has read like a Who's Who of well-known tourney draft picks. Not that it's bad, mind you. I'm as big a culprit as any of always targeting Thor in drafts, for example (who is, besides Surfer, the only other "so useful he must be taken at some point" pick of the heralds). But as soon as somebody drafts Space Phantom, then I'll be impressed.

If Space Phantom ability was not banned, we would have drafted him. awesrug

Originally posted by Digi
Disagree. The draft list has read like a Who's Who of well-known tourney draft picks. Not that it's bad, mind you. I'm as big a culprit as any of always targeting Thor in drafts, for example (who is, besides Surfer, the only other "so useful he must be taken at some point" pick of the heralds). But as soon as somebody drafts Space Phantom, then I'll be impressed.


Made me wiki him.

Originally posted by Digi
Disagree. The draft list has read like a Who's Who of well-known tourney draft picks. Not that it's bad, mind you. I'm as big a culprit as any of always targeting Thor in drafts, for example (who is, besides Surfer, the only other "so useful he must be taken at some point" pick of the heralds). But as soon as somebody drafts Space Phantom, then I'll be impressed.


Space Phantom was actually my first pick, but the ban on power copying made him worthless.

We where really aiming to draft obscure characters, rarely seen in tournaments. grumpy

That strategy went out the window pretty quick though, it seems.

obscurity is overrated imo.

There's still one more round in the draft

Originally posted by -Pr-
obscurity is overrated imo.

Your comments are overrated. uhuh

Originally posted by id369
Your comments are overrated. uhuh

msn-oh

Cool teams so far. Interesting to see how some of them will mesh.

...

Originally posted by -Pr-
... Fail.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Fail.

i was in the wrong thread. big deal.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i was in the wrong thread. big deal. I kid, I kid.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I kid, I kid.

uhuh

long time no see.

Originally posted by -Pr-
uhuh

long time no see. aye.

you freeze to death in the land of cold and ice yet?

i fly back there tomorrow. i'm dreading the weather.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
aye.

you freeze to death in the land of cold and ice yet?

i fly back there tomorrow. i'm dreading the weather.

barely managing. you were on vacation?

Originally posted by -Pr-
barely managing. you were on vacation? university, ontario.

it rains here in december. WTF.

still better than the -40 with windchill that I hear you guys are getting though...

did you make that sig?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
university, ontario.

it rains here in december. WTF.

still better than the -40 with windchill that I hear you guys are getting though...

ah. how is uni going?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
did you make that sig?

it's just a panel from a comic cropped with a border. i aint that good at photoshop lol...

Originally posted by -Pr-
ah. how is uni going? it's... going. haha, the christmas break is much needed. how's the accustoming to Canada going?

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's just a panel from a comic cropped with a border. i aint that good at photoshop lol... MEH. i enjoy it.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
it's... going. haha, the christmas break is much needed. how's the accustoming to Canada going?

MEH. i enjoy it.

not too bad. working in a local blockbuster.

as do i.

Originally posted by -Pr-
not too bad. working in a local blockbuster.

as do i. Hmph... pretty sure blockbuster never called me back.

who are you teamed with for this thing?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Hmph... pretty sure blockbuster never called me back.

who are you teamed with for this thing?

i kept badgering them. its how i got it.

philosophia.

Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki



Well unless someone new joins, it looks the round two drafts are pretty much over... it's pretty early to make guesses, but i'd rank the competition something like this (not counting my team):

1. Darth/BW: They've drafted solid characters, but the reason i'm putting them on top is really because they are probably the best debaters and most seasoned tourney participants, both having wins under their belt.

2. Philo/PR: In terms of character choice, it's hard to go wrong... but i'll have to see the third character first.

3. Leonidas/Galan: Two excellent debaters, and Leo has won tourneys before, more than I can say for myself, having only ever gotten to... I think semifinals? Their team looks a little underpowered to me upon first analysis, but again i'll need to see what develops.

4. Jakethebank: He has potentially the strongest team so far, but I know absolutely nothing about his debating skills so i'm sticking him here. If he knows what he's doing though, he could go far.

5. PsychoCharlotte: I know a bit about Psycho, and i've faced both with and against Charlotte, and I see them taking plenty of wins but petering out against the more heavyweight competitors here... as for the team I can't know anything whatsoever here before the third character.

6. Omega/JLking: Let it be said first off, I really like the team they've assembled so far... but somebody has to be last, and so far i'm seeing a bit of lack of versatility in the picks... I'd rather list this one as "?" though, because I know nothing about the competitors themselves.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i kept badgering them. its how i got it.

philosophia. Forced them into it eh? Belligerence IS the way of the irish, amirite?

Oh, really? I'm... sorry.

Shitty deal.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Forced them into it eh? Belligerence IS the way of the irish, amirite?

Oh, really? I'm... sorry.

Shitty deal.

uhuh

jalous?

Leo and Galan better pull this one home.

Two of the strongest picks of the tier threads and while fagdude's limitations hampers them a bit, they're still pretty safe bets. Loki's magic is so strong that he can remain undetected and visible to Skyfathers. The guy can even work his magic while intangible and invisible! Blueman (group) has already proven that he's every bit as formidable as regular Paulman, and can insta-counter Green Lanterns. I mean, who's gonna beat them, Paul? haermm

Being able to be viewed by skyfathers is quite a powerful feat.

edit- Nice edit, Kris.

Originally posted by -Pr-
uhuh

jalous? Paul, you see right through me.

Holy shit, nice picks.....


I cant decide on the best pick...the only iffy one is Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
university, ontario.

it rains here in december. WTF.

still better than the -40 with windchill that I hear you guys are getting though...



weather in ontario is stupid in december. and what university??

oh, and i finally hooked up that whole msn thing you and bw were badgering me about. pm me and i'll send you my addy if you're interested.

if not, f you.

oh, and welcome back. it's never the same without.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Holy shit, nice picks.....


I cant decide on the best pick...the only iffy one is Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna.


I just dont know Zatanna too well thats all.

Originally posted by id369
I can tell everyone is doing their homework. Because their choices aim to complement, and build upon their teams through prep

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom
Ha this one is simple. Silver Surfer embeds Dr. Doom with power cosmic. Even at low levels, its enough to manipulate matter at an atomic level. Which screams rebuilding his tech and facility from scratch instantly.


Too bad castle Von Doom won't fit in the team lounges

Originally posted by TheKahn
Each team will have access to a "team lounge" measuring 15x15 meters with a couple of couches, satellite tv, refrigerator, washroom, and an assortment of snacks and drinks prior to each fight where they can use their prep time.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Leo and Galan better pull this one home.

Two of the strongest picks of the tier threads and while fagdude's limitations hampers them a bit, they're still pretty safe bets. Loki's magic is so strong that he can remain undetected and visible to Skyfathers. The guy can even work his magic while intangible and invisible! Blueman (group) has already proven that he's every bit as formidable as regular Paulman, and can insta-counter Green Lanterns. I mean, who's gonna beat them, Paul? haermm

Fagdude? Come on now. At least let it rhyme... like Kris Gayz.

Blue Superman is a good choice. I hate you, Galan. Originally posted by Original Smurph
Oh, really? I'm... sorry.

Shitty deal.
I'd have cried myself to sleep after reading this a year ago.

Happily for me, you haven't been relevant for quite a while now.

SNAPZ!!11

Originally posted by batdude123
Fagdude? Come on now. At least let it rhyme... like Kris Gayz.



Fatdude owns...

Originally posted by batdude123
Fagdude? Come on now. At least let it rhyme... like Kris Gayz.
Why you gotta hurt?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Leo and Galan better pull this one home.

Two of the strongest picks of the tier threads and while fagdude's limitations hampers them a bit, they're still pretty safe bets. Loki's magic is so strong that he can remain undetected and visible to Skyfathers. The guy can even work his magic while intangible and invisible! Blueman (group) has already proven that he's every bit as formidable as regular Paulman, and can insta-counter Green Lanterns. I mean, who's gonna beat them, Paul? haermm

yes, i'm going to reveal my plan to take down loki in front of the entire group of entrants.

no.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Paul, you see right through me.

as always.

I'd like to say that Scoob and I pioneered the power cosmic transfer idea, and I think it was me that dug up the scan. If Doom is whipping around on a silver surfboard, awesome as that image is, it's not a new strategy.



I'm also not looking forward to reading goober and Blair's prep. Smart move, poozers. Just know that for every new piece of tech you build in prep, I kill a kitten.

Also, Pr, you already drafted these identical people in a former herald draft. Points for loyalty, and it's not a bad team, but I wonder what will be different this time around. It was only good for, what, a semis appearance last time? Maybe the quarters? I hope there's some new wrinkles.

Originally posted by Digi
I'd like to say that Scoob and I pioneered the power cosmic transfer idea, and I think it was me that dug up the scan. If Doom is whipping around on a silver surfboard, awesome as that image is, it's not a new strategy.



I'm also not looking forward to reading goober and Blair's prep. Smart move, poozers. Just know that for every new piece of tech you build in prep, I kill a kitten.

Also, Pr, you already drafted these identical people in a former herald draft. Points for loyalty, and it's not a bad team, but I wonder what will be different this time around. It was only good for, what, a semis appearance last time? Maybe the quarters? I hope there's some new wrinkles.

the picks were never at fault, i was. it was my lack of knowledge about the characters that ultimately cost me, but this time around, that isn't going to be an issue.

Honestly, Loki should go all the way here if used correctly.

stoned

My favorite moment so far:

Jake: We draft Magneto

KK: We draft Onslaught

Jake {to himself}: *#&@!

Originally posted by Digi
My favorite moment so far:

Jake: We draft Magneto

KK: We draft Onslaught

Jake {to himself}: *#&@!
That's why he switched his pick...

And somebody tell goober and Blair that team names this early in the game is a bit over the top. I feel like we're back in '07, where people splooged themselves over things like "team signatures" and "Paint Shop Pro pics of my amalgam." Good times. Good times...

fdog

http://starlockforfreedom.bravepages.com/kmcsigsandavs/idtest2send.jpg

Originally posted by Digi
And somebody tell goober and Blair that team names this early in the game is a bit over the top. I feel like we're back in '07, where people splooged themselves over things like "team signatures" and "Paint Shop Pro pics of my amalgam." Good times. Good times...

fdog

Team Name?

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6454/psychocharlotte.jpg

WTF?




Where did that come from?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6454/psychocharlotte.jpg



the possible innuendos for a picture like that are staggering.

yes, i'm a bad, bad man...

yeah yeah, "wonder where the hatch to get in would be"

"i hope that toy's life size *wink*"

Originally posted by psycho gundam
yeah yeah, "wonder where the hatch to get in would be"

"i hope that toy's life size *wink*"

I don't mind your pic, it's funny and I don't mind possible kinkiness.

Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna, Tangent Superman

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Eradicator

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman, Infinity Man

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar, Onslaught

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman, Martian Manhunter

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki, Atrocitus

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Nate Grey, Adam Warlock



So, with everyone fully drafted except team Omega Vision, anyone want to post some odds?

Leo\Galen and Goobs\Blair Wind are the only ones I don't like to face.

Pr\Phil went for classics, it seems.

And our team &yours, Kandy, are the only brickless ones in that thing. We'll see how effective it'll work in both cases (though I won't like the idea of facing you in the very 1st round, if the tourney is patterned by the same system as the one Kahn won- 4 KO battles to determine 4 teams going to the semis, and then in the finals...going by the randomness of the pairing, we may end up with "deathmatches"\mini-finals on the very early stage, if two teams led by very good debators clash.

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Nate Grey, Adam Warlock
==========
AKA team Psionic Megatanks... but then, if said company was to be assembled by me or Id it would have been much scarier... but they'll dominate a bunch of teams.

Originally posted by leonidas


weather in ontario is stupid in december. and what university??

oh, and i finally hooked up that whole msn thing you and bw were badgering me about. pm me and i'll send you my addy if you're interested.

if not, f you.

oh, and welcome back. it's never the same without. Queen's.

Yeah, will do. It's not like my list of contacts is exclusive or anything.

Pretty sure I even have Philosophia added....

Gotta admit that Philosophia and PR had some balls by being so bold in their choices.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Not relevant?

That cuts. That cuts deep.

I know it does.

Originally posted by Bentley
Gotta admit that Philosophia and PR had some balls by being so bold in their choices.

sarcasm?

Originally posted by -Pr-
sarcasm?

Superman and Hal are a whole lot of feats to work from, that can be for or against you. Hence I really need to see you debating to see you debating to give you good odds arabia

But if I were you I would be worried

Originally posted by Bentley
Superman and Hal are a whole lot of feats to work from, that can be for or against you. Hence I really need to see you debating to see you debating to give you good odds arabia

But if I were you I would be worried




i'm not worried, and for one reason only:

these guys aren't using their own mindset; they're using mine.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i'm not worried, and for one reason only:

these guys aren't using their own mindset; they're using mine.
Putting the mindset of El Sexo inside a kryptonian does not a hero make, but a rapist flying at lightspeed.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Team Name?

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

Damnit. I thought were team Omega Vision. I read it wrong. Consider my veiled insult directed at them, then.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i'm not worried, and for one reason only:

these guys aren't using their own mindset; they're using mine.

Thats just great...... Hal, MM and Supes with a mindset of a crazy Irish man.

I guess it could be worst like having the mindset of an Italian.

How I imagine it going, sans me and KM. I have no idea how American odds are handled.

Team Leonidas & Galen007: 2.21

Strongest team so far it seems. Two solid debaters and an incredibly strong character pick. Atrocitus is something of a new-comer, which means that nobody is quite sure what he can do in a tourney. Thor, Surfer, Hal, these are all characters who have been tested time and time again. Nobody has seen the effect this raging redling can have in a tournament, and I can see Leo and Galan really putting him to good use. Furthermore there's Loki and Superman Blue, both versatile and powerful in their own right. Loki was initially my first choice and I regret seeing him go to another team, especially two strong opponents such as these. While Superman Blue is the result of some truly awful writing, he will no doubt be a monster when put to his full potential in a tournament. I expect these guys to go all the way.

Team Darthgoober & Blair Wind: 2.37

Speaking of versatility, these guys have it. The Power Cosmic, The Power Magic and The Power Bad Haircut. Eradicator is well known for being far stronger in tourneys and PIS-free settings than in the actual comics themselves. Doom does not have the strength to match most of the opponents in a firefight, but has grown immensely powerful in the last year. And we all know that Doom is not best with his -own- powers, but with others. Surfer, we've all seen Goob with this guy. We're not simply talking endless possibilities as far as preparation goes, but two of the strongest debaters about. Some might think these guys are all hype, but I happen to think the exact opposite. These will pose a dreaded challenge to anyone unfortunate enough to face them.

id369 and King Kandy:3.1

King Kandy is well versed in the ways of tourneys, as I have seen and judged before. If not for a keen intellect and debating skills, then at least for persistence and mental fortitude. A will no man can break, a character no man can fake and a thirst of Sentry's penis that no writer can slake. I always considered ID the forum's residential Psionic fan, along with Charlotte and Exodus. They have strong picks, but it seems like ID is not playing to his strengths here which will keep them from going all the way. They are still a solid threat and should not be underestimated by any opponent. We're talking about a good combination of debaters, choices of characters and inventiveness.

Team Psycho Charlotte: 3.3

Not long ago I judged a battlezone fight between these two, and having judged some of Charlotte's earlier fights, I can safely say that I have been at least given some insight here. This team's success will rely on how well they are able to handle their characters and whether or not THEY CAN PROVE IT. Kyle and Zatanna are characters with some real ups and downs, and while I credit that to DC's liking for mentally retarded writers with absolutely no concept of power level, it can have a negative effect on some of the fights outcomes. Sometimes it's better to play it safe than to get lost in convoluted tactics and unlikely scenarios. But playing it safe might not be enough to win the day, considering their opponents.

Team Jakethebank:

Who is this guy? Where does he come from? Jake was like a blast from the past, appearing on the forum, pulling up old debates and engaging in relentless debates. Much like Khan, I have no idea what this guy is capable of. All I know is that he secured himself the strongest characters around, and does not plan to play around. We're talking about one of the best tech'ers, Henshaw and possibly the greatest tourney character around, Thor. My initial team-mate, which I had to disgracefully abandon (Sorry 'bout that still) in favor of some other picks. He will not be getting an odds, as I do not know what he can and can't do. All I can do is sit back and wait. Something tells me, I won't be disappointed.

Team Omega Vision & JL King: 4.2

Omega Vision is something of a newcomer to KMC, but managed to make his presence known. With an uncanny resemblance to the ol' village idiot Trick, sans the rage, we soon grew to love him. I have not yet seen their third pick, which makes it difficult to say, but so far their picks have not been the greatest. All-Star Superman is a case of quality over quantity, but unfortunately it's mostly quality writing and not quality feats. He's a risk. The Flash is a solid character, but he has at least as many shortcomings as he has strengths. Good team, but I do not see these guys taking home any trophies.

Team Philosophia and PR: 4.9

PR made a case out of picking the most predictable and well known characters. Teamed up with a young'un who frequents Herochat more than KMC, Paul plans to prove how formidable Superman can be with PIS off. Picking characters who the plot often seems to favour instead of hamper, did not seem like the greatest move in the back not when choosing your tourney line-up. Even with tourney limitations set to help Superman as much as possible, I do not see these two being able to play to their character's strengths. Their weaknesses are numerous and glaring. I expect no big surprises from this team and assume most debaters already have countermeasures for their choices already. Good Luck, you will need it.

Just wait and see how powerful Team Omega and JL king is. We will strike at the heart of out enemies.
They will hear us, they will believe us, and most of all they will fear us

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Just wait and see how powerful Team Omega and JL king is. We will strike at the heart of out enemies.
They will hear us, they will believe us, and most of all they will fear us

you need to pick a #3 pick, dude.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you need to pick a #3 pick, dude.

Yeah, and sooner is better than later.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you need to pick a #3 pick, dude.
I send a PM to omega. I gave him a few suggestions, but ultimately, it's his decision. We were going to pick Infinity Man, After someone picked him, I protested

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Just wait and see how powerful Team Omega and JL king is. We will strike at the heart of out enemies.
They will hear us, they will believe us, and most of all they will fear us

Dude, you just lost the tourney. Right there. Thanks for playing.

Originally posted by Digi
Dude, you just lost the tourney. Right there. Thanks for playing.





Hey Digi, the first season of league of champions has been over for quite some time; are you going to update the tourney respect thread anytime? I was just looking over it so I could read all my old matches, but I got stumped there.

Digi hasnt updated it since no one "officially" won

Hell, I can't even remember the first League. Did I say I wasn't updating it? I dunno, PM me if you have any info from it that I should update. Otherwise, I'll try to deal with it after the new year.

Oh, good point, that one never actually ended...

I've also grown a bit lax with that thread. I haven't been able to keep up with everything I once did. Is that the one I used Minion in? Or was it after that? I'm losing track, tbh.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
How I imagine it going, sans me and KM. I have no idea how American odds are handled.

excellent analysis! bravo

With out power meshing or prep. I will give you my list of threat level, against my team. 1-5 with 5 being the highest. Naturally I will not reveal why.

Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna, Tangent Superman
2.5

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Eradicator
3.5

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar, Onslaught
???

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman, Martian Manhunter
3.0

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Blue Superman, Loki, Atrocitus
4.0

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Beta Ray Bill, Talisman II/Shaman
4.0

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman, Swamp Thing
4.5

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman, Sinestro
4.0

goober and Blair have the most combined experience, and as solid a team as any. Making predictions is much, much easier once we've seen a match or two, and is traditionally not accurate even then, but they should head the list. I like a lot of the teams though.

Of all the teams excluding myself, i'd give Goober/BW the best odds.

Oi! Kandy. What about "Inglorious Bastards", for team name?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Of all the teams excluding myself, i'd give Goober/BW the best odds.

Cosign basically. Them and Leo\Galan. Your team is inconvinient opponent due to the "mirror effect" but I try my best.

i just want to see goob/blair vs pr/phil throwdown

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i just want to see goob/blair vs pr/phil throwdown

you all know you want to see it also

there should be "i was owned" sigs made for these matches

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you all know you want to see it also

there should be "i was owned" sigs made for these matches

not that i mind, but why?

Originally posted by -Pr-
not that i mind, but why? only thing better than gloating about winning is when the guy you beat sings your praises for you.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
only thing better than gloating about winning is when the guy you beat sings your praises for you.



ah.

Leo/Galan have better odds in my opinion.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Leo/Galan have better odds in my opinion.
In terms of their team, I agree they have a potentially better one... However I personally believe darthgoober is the best debater on the site, bar none, and BW isn't far behind. Don't get me wrong, Leo is an excellent debater and tourney vet, and while Galan hasn't really gone out much for tourneys, I highly respect his knowledge... but I would give Darth/BW best odds almost independent of the actual teams that have been picked.

Originally posted by King Kandy
In terms of their team, I agree they have a potentially better one... However I personally believe darthgoober is the best debater on the site, bar none, and BW isn't far behind. Don't get me wrong, Leo is an excellent debater and tourney vet, and while Galan hasn't really gone out much for tourneys, I highly respect his knowledge... but I would give Darth/BW best odds almost independent of the actual teams that have been picked.
'nuff said man.

I am really looking forward to this one. I think this specific tournament, is going to go down as the most competitive one to this date. It will be hard dethrone it, due to the sheer scope of quality participants, and choices.

Anyhow this is how I view each team with the simplest expression.


Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna, Tangent Superman
mhmm


Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Eradicator
coffee1


Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar, Onslaught
drummer2


Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman, Martian Manhunter
abccoffee

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Annihilus, Loki, Dark Flash
smurph

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Beta Ray Bill, Talisman II/Shaman
uggh

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman, Swamp Thing
yep

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman, Sinestro
superm

Originally posted by King Kandy
In terms of their team, I agree they have a potentially better one... However I personally believe darthgoober is the best debater on the site, bar none, and BW isn't far behind. Don't get me wrong, Leo is an excellent debater and tourney vet, and while Galan hasn't really gone out much for tourneys, I highly respect his knowledge... but I would give Darth/BW best odds almost independent of the actual teams that have been picked.
clap

Originally posted by id369
Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Beta Ray Bill, Talisman II/Shaman
uggh
What the shit is this supposed to mean? uhuh

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What the shit is this supposed to mean? uhuh

uggh

Originally posted by id369
I am really looking forward to this one. I think this specific tournament, is going to go down as the most competitive one to this date.

I agree. This is a very high quality tourney with iconic characters abound. Also, some of the judges for this tourney are quite awesome as well.

While I don't think its appropriate that I give anyone odds (I think everyone has an equal shot at this point), I do have some impressions of the teams so far.

Team psycho charlotte - Kyle Rayner (GL), Zatanna, Tangent Superman
Team Diversity - They have just about every possible powerset covered with their group of fighters making them frighteningly versatile. Is there anything they can't do?

Team darthgoober & Blair Wind - Silver Surfer, Dr. Doom, Eradicator
Team Cosmic - Lots of energy and matter manipulation with a dash of magic thrown in is a dangerous combo in the hands of two seasoned debaters.

Team: id369 and King Kandy - Genis-Vell, Quasar, Onslaught
Team Insanity - An unstable and morally questionable group that still brings lots of firepower to bear. One pities the fate of the universe if they emerge victorious.

Team Philosophia and PR - Hal Jordan (GL), Superman, Martian Manhunter
Team JLA - Classic roster with some of the heaviest hitters from DC's premier superhero team. Can anyone stand up against their diverse set of powers and laundry list of feats?

Team Leonidas & Galen007 - Annihilus, Loki, Walter West (Dark Flash)
Team Outsiders - This ragtag group is simply misunderstood by the world at large and overshadowed by other "so-called heroes." They look forward to venting their frustrations on any opposing team.

Team Kris Blaze & KM - Captain Comet, Beta Ray Bill, Talisman II/Shaman
Team Trixie Hobbitses - While not having any easily recognizable names, only a fool would count out this team and their potent combination of magic and cosmic power.

Team Omega Vision & JL King - Wally West (Flash), All Star Superman, Swamp Thing
Team Goody-two-shoes - You'd be hard pressed to find a better collection of planet saving heroes and all around good guys. But can they match up to the more ruthless and evil members of the opposing teams?

Team JaketheBank - Thor, Cyborg Superman, Sinestro
Team Brawn - Thought lacking a steady partner, Jake has assembled a team of raw, brutal power that will send any opposing team to the infirmary win or lose.

Any odds people? Come on, fights are about to start!

mungi has a chance, but i don't like your odds.

Originally posted by leonidas
mungi has a chance, but i don't like your odds.
I'd go on about how I'll take you down when we fight, but I honestly don't see you making it past Omega Vision and JLking

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I'd go on about how I'll take you down when we fight, but I honestly don't see you making it past Omega Vision and JLking



we'll see.

Do our odds change even a little bit since I joined Jake's team?

Team psycho charlotte
Team darthgoober & Blair Wind
Team Philosophia and PR
Team Leonidas & Galen007

Those are the teams that i can see appearing in the semi's.

However, that depends on several factors:

Kris and Mungi will skyrocket in ability if Kris pulls his head out of his ass and debates rather then just being a deuchebag

Omega Vision/JL are unknowns to me, howver they do have solid picks and if they have even an ounce of guile they could prove dire threats.

Kandy and ID have the most raw power in the tourney, how far they advance depends on how well they can use it. Going up against cunning little pricks like Goober/Blair/Galan they'll have to tread carefully in case that power is turned against them.

Jake/Smurf have extremely solid picks with many options. Smurf has always proven dangerous in a tournament, but paired with an unkown i cannot lobby full support. If Jake is a capable debater however, this team is easily semi-finals material.

The "general knowledge" rule really lessens the odds of Kandy\Id in their match.
I'm scared of Mungi a bit, he'll most probably be debating for Captain Comet, and an educated fan of a powerful character (he knows Cap just as well as I know say Emma Frost) is always a dangerous opponent. Their debating responsibilities are predicable easily- Captain is debated by Mungi, Shaman is by team, and BRB is by Kris. Good in terms of knowledge pool but also good in terms of debating skill.

Somehow it feels like I'm being underestimated.....

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Somehow it feels like I'm being underestimated.....
Consider yourself lucky. I remember I was wanting people to think lightly of me in my first tourney(more bragging rights at the end if you win and easier strategies to deal with from the opposition) but it seemed like they were gunning for me right out of gate .

Just know this, even if no one else is... I'm watching you

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Somehow it feels like I'm being underestimated.....

Your skill with Thorlings is not to be underestimated, darling... And you're both good debators. It's just that Mungi is more of an X-factor for me...I never saw him debating. I don't think about myself as an A-list debater, but I know how that probably will go.
That's why I'm pissed off about choosing Tangent Superman in favour of Nate- that allows opponent to use the "tomato paradox" (the feat that's not beyond the general showing of a character but was never shown on panel due to character having little pool of appearances). Good debators know how to use that thing (though it turns into yes-no exchange during most of the debate).

Can somebody please give the deadline for the submitting of writeups in GMT? I go shopping with my mother in the evening, so I want to know whether or not I calculated the deadline right...

D'aww, you guys are too nice
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Can somebody please give the deadline for the submitting of writeups in GMT? I go shopping with my mother in the evening, so I want to know whether or not I calculated the deadline right...
As far as I figured, there is no DEADline. Khan seemed to be a bit lenient on it. I sent my prep to KM last night though, going post-christmas shopping as well

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Can somebody please give the deadline for the submitting of writeups in GMT? I go shopping with my mother in the evening, so I want to know whether or not I calculated the deadline right...

I think GMT is +5 EST, so 12pm EST it would be 5pm GMT. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
D'aww, you guys are too nice

As far as I figured, there is no DEADline. Khan seemed to be a bit lenient on it. I sent my prep to KM last night though, going post-christmas shopping as well

Well, I'm not going to punish teams who can't get all their stuff in because the deadline is fairly arbitrary. I just want to get all the first round fights going this week if possible. Sooner is better than later but get it in when you can. If something comes up that causes a significant delay - please just inform me and your opponents so everyone can plan accordingly.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Somehow it feels like I'm being underestimated.....

You're Robin to King Mungi's Batman.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Somehow it feels like I'm being underestimated.....

not me. i know you suck.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Somehow it feels like I'm being underestimated.....

join the club lol...

Originally posted by -Pr-
join the club lol...

Interested in your match with Id\Kandy. But hope you'll manage well...to both of your teams.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Interested in your match with Id\Kandy. But hope you'll manage well...to both of your teams.

thanks ^^

Strategy
Our strategy is simple, we will destroy the apposing team.


^^Should I add more to it, or will this be suffice? mhmm

Originally posted by id369
Strategy
Our strategy is simple, we will destroy the apposing team.


^^Should I add more to it, or will this be suffice? mhmm

good luck with that.

Good lord so much love for me, Im about to get a restraining order.

Anyone remember my battlezone battle with Trick? Oh my.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Good lord so much love for me, Im also about to get a restraining order.

Anyone remember my battlezone battle with Trick? Oh my. no...do you have a link (I'd love to read it)

Originally posted by Starscream M
no...do you have a link (I'd love to read it)

Enjoy:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=467203&pagenumber=1

The challenge thread for this battle was pretty funny.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Enjoy:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=467203&pagenumber=1

The challenge thread for this battle was pretty funny. ty. btw, what happened to trick?

Originally posted by Starscream M
ty. btw, what happened to trick?

Not sure actually. He sort of just vanished, mayve someone else knows.

Woah, Kandy and ID are facing Raoul?


I love the smell of a curbstomp in the morning.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Good lord so much love for me, Im about to get a restraining order.

Anyone remember my battlezone battle with Trick? Oh my. Yep.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Good lord so much love for me, Im about to get a restraining order.

Anyone remember my battlezone battle with Trick? Oh my.

The thread was a ridiculous stomping of a (not that bright) baby in terms of debating...completely one-sided.

K-M is the forum bully. peaches


If he wants to step it up, here is my open challenge to any, and all Magicians up to a herald limit.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t522228.html

Never heard of him, what's he from?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Never heard of him, what's he from?

Bastard!

Edit - Thats the name of the manga. ^__^

Hey Pr and Philo, I decided this would be the most appropriate song to play, when I bury your team. peachesgun3
3ITF4HoRZRY

Listening to that godawfull song would probably fry our brains and then, maybe, you'd have a chance at putting us in any kind of difficulty. uhuh

Fire. Arh! Why didn't I think of that.

Yes, the way we'll forcibly make you say "uncles" will be quite stylish.