Team MU vs Team DCU

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Prep-Man
DCU:
Dr. Fate (Kent)
Orion
Silver Age Hal Jordan
Superman
Martian Manhunter
Flash (Wally West)

MU:
Dr. Strange
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Quasar
Silver Surfer
Hyperion

carver9
Marvel team 10/10

Batman-Prime
To many

So 50%-50%

carver9
The first bad thing about this fight is that you have Thor, Silver Surfer, and Beta Ray bill on a team together. They ARE the most powerful on the field. Then you again have Silver Surfer in a fight that is starring Superman, which would lead to him being out of the fight immediately.

Then you have Martian Manhunter who is weak to fire and the marvel team is full of people that can conjure fire so he would be immediately disposed of.

Then that would leave 6 on 4 and with the pure raw power that the marvel team has, its a complete stomp.

Batman-Prime
Superman, Orion and SS are the most powerful, closely followed by the rest.

Fate stalemates or defeats Strange
Orion can beat Thor or anyone on Team MU except Surfer
Superman can beat everyone on team MU
Jordan can defeat Quasar, Strange, BRB, SS, Hyperion or Thor
MM can take, BRB, Quasar or Hyperion
Flash steals all their speed, so Superman and the rest can drink some tea before stomping.

*Duh*

Stalemate... no expression

Good thing I've got not DC bias

carver9
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman, Orion and SS are the most powerful, closely followed by the rest.

Fate stalemates or defeats Strange
Orion can beat Thor or anyone on Team MU except Surfer
Superman can beat everyone on team MU
Jordan can defeat Quasar, Strange, BRB, SS, Hyperion or Thor
MM can take, BRB, Quasar or Hyperion
Flash steals all their speed, so Superman and the rest can drink some tea before stomping.

*Duh*

Stalemate... no expression

Good thing I've got not DC bias

confused Would you like to compare feats on who is the most powerful out of thor and Superman or Beta Ray Bill and Superman?

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by carver9
confused Would you like to compare feats on who is the most powerful out of thor and Superman or Beta Ray Bill and Superman?

So you can ignore and lowball Supes feats (like always) and exxagerate those of Thor or BRB? Hm, let me think about it, no thanks no expression

carver9
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
So you can ignore and lowball Supes feats (like always) and exxagerate those of Thor or BRB? Hm, let me think about it, no thanks no expression

Its nothing to low ball, you can take the feat how you want to, you can even add to it and I know for a FACT that I can put something from thor that would trump it EASILY.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by carver9
Its nothing to low ball, you can take the feat how you want to, you can even add to it and I know for a FACT that I can put something from thor that would trump it EASILY.

And what would that be? The ultimate Thor or BRB feat? laughing

carver9
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
And what would that be? The ultimate Thor or BRB feat? laughing

Superman>Ultimate Thor

I'm not talking about ultimate thor, like I said before, I could easily post feats from thor power wise that would throw your feats out of the water. Its no competition when it comes to power from Supes and Thor.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by carver9
Superman>Ultimate Thor

I'm not talking about ultimate thor, like I said before, I could easily post feats from thor power wise that would throw your feats out of the water. Its no competition when it comes to power from Supes and Thor.

I talked about thors ultimate feat. What is it?

WickedDynamite
Team DCU have Flash....

....Team DCU wins.

This is spite.

carver9
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I talked about thors ultimate feat. What is it?

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/ThorvsGalactusfirst2.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/ThorvsGalactusfirst3.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/ThorvsGalactusfirst4.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/ThorvsGalactusfirst6.jpg
confused

carver9
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Team DCU have Flash....

....Team DCU wins.

This is spite.

Surfer could easily take out the flash.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
The first bad thing about this fight is that you have Thor, Silver Surfer, and Beta Ray bill on a team together. They ARE the most powerful on the field. Then you again have Silver Surfer in a fight that is starring Superman, which would lead to him being out of the fight immediately.

Then you have Martian Manhunter who is weak to fire and the marvel team is full of people that can conjure fire so he would be immediately disposed of.

Then that would leave 6 on 4 and with the pure raw power that the marvel team has, its a complete stomp.

http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/7281/original/blurb_facepalm2_20090622.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer could easily take out the flash.

he wishes.

carver9
OOOORRRR:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/DieHulkDie08.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/DieHulkDie09.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/DieHulkDie10.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/7281/original/blurb_facepalm2_20090622.jpg



he wishes.

I wish you never closed that site I created.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
I wish you never closed that site I created.

that thread? i honestly don't see the point when you're making the kinds of claims you're making... erm

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
that thread? i honestly don't see the point when you're making the kinds of claims you're making... erm

What claims, about Surfer taking out flash?

Flash is grounded, Surfer can turn the ground into whatever he pleases. Flash would lose against the Surfer pretty easy if Surfer wanted.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
What claims, about Surfer taking out flash?

Flash is grounded, Surfer can turn the ground into whatever he pleases. Flash would lose against the Surfer pretty easy if Surfer wanted.

Flash isn't grounded.

and no, your other claims. about Bill to be precise.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
Flash isn't grounded.

and no, your other claims. about Bill to be precise.

Beta ray bill? About him being one of those most powerful. Yes, me looking at his feats, he is clearly more powerful than almost all of the people in this battle. I'm not saying that you are wrong, its just something that I think since I know some of his feats.

His latest feat had him taking out a universal threat and tanking a blast that was about to kill galactus. The same blast that Star Dust and Silver Surfer was unable to stop.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
Beta ray bill? About him being one of those most powerful. Yes, me looking at his feats, he is clearly more powerful than almost all of the people in this battle. I'm not saying that you are wrong, its just something that I think since I know some of his feats.

His latest feat had him taking out a universal threat and tanking a blast that was about to kill galactus. The same blast that Star Dust and Silver Surfer was unable to stop.

one feat does not make the man.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by carver9
Marvel team 10/10

Dr. Fate is the most powerful on either team.

shokosugi
DCU 8/10

Samurai_X
Originally posted by carver9
Surfer could easily take out the flash. Not really, Surfer is really only fast in terms of travel and thats because he has access to a plot device called hyperspace

In terms of combat speed and reflexes, Surfer isnt anything special

Team DCU stomps this fight though, SA Hal and Dr Fate could do it just those 2

Add the rest and MU dies horribly

Slaanesh
team marvel barely..

Dr. Strange = Dr. Fate (Kent)
Orion = Thor
Silver Age Hal Jordan > Beta Ray Bill
Superman > Hyperion
Martian Manhunter < Quasar
Flash (Wally West) < Silver Surfer

i give team marvel 7/10

darthgoober
Originally posted by Samurai_X
Not really, Surfer is really only fast in terms of travel and thats because he has access to a plot device called hyperspace

In terms of combat speed and reflexes, Surfer isnt anything special

Team DCU stomps this fight though, SA Hal and Dr Fate could do it just those 2

Add the rest and MU dies horribly
Surfer's got combat speed and reflex on par with anyone on DC.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
one feat does not make the man.

Its not just one feat that gave me my decision.

carver9
Originally posted by Slaanesh
team marvel barely..

Dr. Strange = Dr. Fate (Kent)
Orion = Thor
Silver Age Hal Jordan > Beta Ray Bill
Superman > Hyperion
Martian Manhunter < Quasar
Flash (Wally West) < Silver Surfer

i give team marvel 7/10

I agree with you except on one thing, Thor>Orion. My bad, two things, Beta ray bill>Hal Jordan.

iceman24567
How is Bill > Silver age Hal Jordan? What kind of bs bias is that?

carver9
Originally posted by iceman24567
How is Bill > Silver age Hal Jordan? What kind of bs bias is that?

I'm not talking about Silver age Hal Jordan because if its him then he can basically solo marvel team which would be stupid to use him in a forum fight.

iceman24567
Well that is who we are using in this thread erm

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
Its not just one feat that gave me my decision.

i'm sure erm

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not talking about Silver age Hal Jordan because if its him then he can basically solo marvel team which would be stupid to use him in a forum fight.

his feats are canon, though.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
i'm sure erm



his feats are canon, though.

I know that its cannon but it would be kind of ridiculous to use him just like it'll be ridiculous to use hulk back in the 80's. The guy destroyed a universe with a thunder clap.

Comics books back then made no sense.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
I know that its cannon but it would be kind of ridiculous to use him just like it'll be ridiculous to use hulk back in the 80's. The guy destroyed a universe with a thunder clap.

Comics books back then made no sense.

people can and do use hulk feats from further back than the 80s.

Prep-Man
How does Hal solo the Marvel team? laughing out loud

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
people can and do use hulk feats from further back than the 80s.

I dont because it doesnt make sense to use them.

carver9
Originally posted by Prep-Man
How does Hal solo the Marvel team? laughing out loud

Look at his feats and that should answer your question.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by carver9
Look at his feats and that should answer your question.

He did hold back the JLA for a time, so I guess it IS possible, but I don't think that will happen on average. Hal will have his hands full with Surfer, IMO. I give Silver Age Hal the majority over Surfer, but it won't be easy.

carver9
Originally posted by Prep-Man
He did hold back the JLA for a time, so I guess it IS possible, but I don't think that will happen on average. Hal will have his hands full with Surfer, IMO. I give Silver Age Hal the majority over Surfer, but it won't be easy.

I think it'll be easy, everything back then just seem cartoonish to me, kind of like popeye or something. I just dont agree with using anybody from that time period.

Naija boy
Originally posted by carver9
Look at his feats and that should answer your question.

facepalm

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
I dont because it doesnt make sense to use them.

they're still valid if they're in keeping with the character.

Prep-Man
Originally posted by carver9
I think it'll be easy, everything back then just seem cartoonish to me, kind of like popeye or something. I just dont agree with using anybody from that time period.

Well, if he can hold back Pre-Crisis Superman, I guess that's a feat in itself, but this is Surfer and Thor we're talking about.

I'm still using SA Hal, though. Makes things a bit more interesting.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
they're still valid if they're in keeping with the character.

But he is much weaker now (MUCH WEAKER).

Didnt black mary recently crush hal? I cant see her doing that to Silver Age Hal.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
But he is much weaker now (MUCH WEAKER).

Didnt black mary recently crush hal? I cant see her doing that to Silver Age Hal.

he's not that much weaker, if at all. he just doesn't do as much crazy shit with the ring.

black mary stomped pretty much everyone she fought.

Batman-Prime
Originally posted by carver9
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/ThorvsGalactusfirst2.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/ThorvsGalactusfirst3.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/ThorvsGalactusfirst4.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Scans/ThorvsGalactusfirst6.jpg
confused

Is this all no expression ? I expected more, honestly. A weaker Galactus...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3UGpPTDc_AY/SYoTET7E5zI/AAAAAAAABEU/HTgyJCbalRM/s400/FinalCrisisSupermanSong.jpg > your Galactus feat

Originally posted by carver9
OOOORRRR:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/DieHulkDie08.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/DieHulkDie09.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/DieHulkDie10.jpg

Impressive. Isn't that King Thor? And why does it take him some hours to rebuild two freaking buildings?
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9435/suniz1.jpg smile
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3833/cityta4.jpg

Q99
Originally posted by -Pr-
he's not that much weaker, if at all. he just doesn't do as much crazy shit with the ring.


Silver-Age GL could fight with Silver-Age Superman.

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