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Vincent Valentine from Dirge of Cerberus goes into full Chaos mode and is aided by Sephiroth to combat against Link and Ganandorf from Twilight Princess who teamed up for some reason I'm not gonna bother going into details with. Just so people can stop repeating "only the Triforce can harm Ganandorf," he got gimped from that and is now vulnerable to CV and Sephiroth's attacks so deal with it.

Link has all of his equipment and gear and has the Master Sword and Shield.


Fight is inside Omega in the large room where Vincent fought Weiss.


Which team will win this fight?

Ganon TK's them both and rips their heads off, solo.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ganon TK's them both and rips their heads off, solo.

Sephiroth does TK also.

Which Link's immune to, and Ganon's is stronger. Sephiroth and Chaos vincent are wholly unable to hurt Ganondorf anyway. Midna hit him so hard the castle he was in exploded. He was fine.

"That's like me kicking you in the nuts so hard your house explodes."

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Which Link's immune to

How?

Master Sword.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Master Sword.

That's horses*** and you know it. Master Sword has never shown a feat of protecting Link from a TK attack.

Yes, it has. Also, it's clearly stated as being untouchable by evil. Which Sephiroth is.

Regardless, Link sits around and watches Ganon do all the work for the lulz.

Edit: This is horrific spite. Nice work.

And the fanboy bullshit has started.

Make an argument or keep your voice down.

"I disagree, so you must be a fanboy!!1", nice. Won't fly in a debate, though.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes, it has. Also, it's clearly stated as being untouchable by evil. Which Sephiroth is.

Regardless, Link sits around and watches Ganon do all the work for the lulz.

Edit: This is horrific spite. Nice work.

When has the Master Sword been seen protecting Link from TK?

OoT notably, TP by inference, and WW.

Edit: It's more that it protects him from evil in general, such as curses/TK/ect.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
and Ganon's is stronger.
considering sephy kept a planet destroying force in ho-check with his TK - no

That's been debated before. Holy isn't comparable to passively levitating castles.

ive never seen a castle capable of destroying a planet

Holy's never been shown to do so either.

Holy is the most powerful white magic on the planet, holding that back takes a bit more skill than liftingup a castle, which Sephiroth can also do given that he brought down a good portion of a skyscraper with his TK.

This is spite, Seph and CV can move so much faster than Link and Ganon it's not even funny, and given that Chaos Vincent is completely unharmed when impaled by both blades by someone as powerful as Omega Weiss and Sephiroth can become intangible as he's all Jenova cells by AC, there's literally nothing that can be done to harm them.

/thread

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Make an argument or keep your voice down.

"I disagree, so you must be a fanboy!!1", nice. Won't fly in a debate, though.

My point is proven

Knocking around a little debris in no way compares to casual levitation of a castle either, and Holy's powerful magic, not a physical object or force with mass and momentum.
Actually, thier speed is pretty overwanked, but useless because Ganon TK's them both anyway.
And when he's sealed between dimensions and his jenova cells all die?

Yeah, Ganondorf soloes.

You never made a point.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
OoT notably, TP by inference, and WW.

Edit: It's more that it protects him from evil in general, such as curses/TK/ect.

Such as when Ganondorf beat WW Link at the end of the game to an inch of his life to get the Triforce? I fail to see how that will stop impalement by Sephiroth's 7 foot long sword.

8 ft

My bad

Well for starters, Sephiroth's only class 10.

...what are you talking about?

he means sephy can only lift 10 tonnes max

IE, not strong enough to do worthwhile damage to either character.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
holding that back takes a bit more skill than liftingup a castle, which Sephiroth can also do given that he brought down a good portion of a skyscraper with his TK.


there is so much wrong with this statement.

Actually, thier speed is pretty overwankedI'm not so sure anymore. Dissidia outright states lightspeed movement for one of Sephiroth's techniques. I'm not sure how fast Vincent is by comparison.

I'm not saying that team FF take a definitive win, but Sephiroth has a definitive advantage in speed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You never made a point.

Because you already made my point.

dissidia isn't cannon to Sephiroth

Even if they reached such stupid speed, they're physicly unable to harm the other two characters who are on such an extremely different level of strength and durability.

Does the class of his strength matter in piercing flesh? If he gets the chance that is... But can team Hyrule match FF's speed?

It does. Because he has to be pretty strong to hurt either character, and he's not.

Like I keep saying, Ganon soloes, effortlessly.

Ganondorf can teleport and go intangallible to negate speed blitz

They can't hurt him, even if he doesn't. In TP he tanks a hit from Midna that blows up the castle he's in, and is unharmed.

Dissidia is canon to Sephiroth, read the Dissidia Ultimania. And Scream, you're a big fan of math, you do realize that even a relatively small object like a sword will do incredible amounts of damage if it hits you at even a fraction of lightspeed, Link has shown 0 durability against something with that much punch behind it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
They can't hurt him, even if he doesn't. In TP he tanks a hit from Midna that blows up the castle he's in, and is unharmed.

Its more like Ganondorf vs Chaos & Seph since Link's sword isn't capable of slashing through a boulder yet Sephiroth can manage to dice up a skyscraper.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Well for starters, Sephiroth's only class 10.

Did you get the 'class 10' from the Midgar Zolom being impaled on the tree?

Also, Holy does have physical force which is only a small part that Sephiroth has to hold back as shown in the FF7 Ultimania which clearly states the airships weight(~1800 (empty) from memory) and in the final cutscene you can clearly see holy pushing it from close to the core many many miles into the air, with a LOT of speed (it takes ~50 seconds from memory).

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Dissidia is canon to Sephiroth, read the Dissidia Ultimania. And Scream, you're a big fan of math, you do realize that even a relatively small object like a sword will do incredible amounts of damage if it hits you at even a fraction of lightspeed, Link has shown 0 durability against something with that much punch behind it. The plot does seem to connect and further the FF games (unlike crossovers like Smash Bros and MvC2). Have there been any statements to suggest canon or non-canon status?

I'm guessing the part where he said read the dissidia ultimania, I haven't checked so idk.

Saying go read disssidia ultamania isn't going to work bring me the quotes and page numbers.

I'm just gonna go ahead and let you know that Link's capable of doing a lot more damage with a sword than Sephiroth, don't bother making the comparison. Link doesn't have to do anything, though. He can sit around and lol while Sephiroth and Vince get their shit pushed in by Ganon. They have no answer to his durability or power, and especially not to being trapped between dimension. Seems like they're gonna have to go hang out with C'Thulhu until the stars are right. haermm

The entire book speaks of it as canon. It tells us that Chaos destroyed the other FF universes and pulled the villains out of them to serve him. The story section tells us that the reason Sephiroth wants the heroes to win and defeat Chaos was because he had found the truth of the Dissidia universe and it's cyclical nature, and wanted to end the cycle so he could return to his world and complete his Geostigma plan to rule as a god himself, no longer working for Chaos as a pawn.

When Link's blade doesn't bounce harmlessly off of rocks and steel you might have an argument, but the fact is everything we're shown in LoZ says he can't do the kind of slicing Sephiroth and Cloud can.

Lolargumentfromgameplaymechanics. Because allowing the player to just tunnel through every wall in the game is so conducive to an exploration and puzzle based game. It also goes right thorugh NPC's without hurting them. Apparently Link's sword can't kill people. /eyeroll.

Edit: when Sephiroth or Cloud have some kind of strength feat worth note by comparison, you might have an argument.

Link gets beheaded by Sephiroth, Ganon has no weapons to effectively fight both of them. Is Chaos not the guy who made the world quake with an enormous attack on a skyscraper sized lifestream thing? Did he also not show speed feats against Omega Weiss or is this a different chaos?

Great, BT is here to make baseless claims. I'm too hungover to deal with your crap atm.

The Chaos FC is mentioning is dissidia chaos(a really good villian for once)

No valid response, I see. Honestly scream, when you have more than laughable Nintendo fanboy drivel to back you up feel free to come back, but until then please stay out of adult affairs.

Then again, I suppose I shouldn't expect more from someone who thinks Fox McCloud could beat Chaos Vincent. Lol.

So does that count the feats I mentioned against Omega weiss and that lifestream guardian thingie?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Even if they reached such stupid speed, they're physicly unable to harm the other two characters who are on such an extremely different level of strength and durability.

My valid response was on page 2. Neither Seph nor vince can even hurt Link or Ganon Grats on being an FF fanboy, btw. <3

As for your "stay out of adult affairs" remark? I'm older than you, boyo, and clearly have the leg up intellectually, as well.

And Chaos Vincent would lose to fox if he has his Arwing. He has no way to damage it.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
No valid response, I see. Honestly scream, when you have more than laughable Nintendo fanboy drivel to back you up feel free to come back, but until then please stay out of adult affairs.


Please re-read this response and facepalm yourself. Games vs. forum is obviously very serious adult business which is why you're here.

Link has no durability feat to stop Sephiroth who can according to someone earlier in the thread can now go lightspeed in Dissidia slicing through his neck. Ganon would also be vulnerable to the same attack. If he can really go lightspeed Sephiroth solos.

The Chaos I mentioned from the Dissidia Ultimania is Dissidia Chaos, but the Chaos facing Link and Ganon here is Chaos Vincent, and yes he did all of the feats you mentioned.

Then he has more than enough power by himself to eliminate these physically at least. He seems faster and more powerful than anything shown by Ganon or Link.

Shame he can't, and has never shown such an ability, eh? Also, Sephiroth's never done enough damage to anything for that to hold up, even in AC. Soo, if he can move that fast, he must hit like some kind of anemic mosquito.

Ganon soloes, there's no point in continueing this thread. Neither vincent or Sephiroth can harm Ganondorf, or stop him from utterly destroying them.

Slashing up metal and concrete in seconds>necks of Ganon and Link also your assuming Sephiroth moved at lightspeed in AC or has actually used this power. If its stated that he has it then its irrelvent. Him moving at lightspeed with a sword that has been shown to slice apart buildings is more than enough to put down Ganon, Link and likely half the Zeldaverse.

Shame he hasn't, and there's been no quote supplied, and even if it does exist, is more than likely simple hyperbole.

And concrete and steel > Ganon and Link? I lol'd, play a Zelda game. You have no evidence at all to support that Sephiroth can harm either one of them, and you're basicly here because you hate Zelda. Which is irrational as you've never played it.

You think Link and Zelda are more durable than skyscrapers and giant cannons that Sephiroth slices through in an instant as if hes wielding a light saber? Combined with the speed of light and your the one loling?

I agree with your earlier statement, you are too hungover to handle this argument.....perhaps someone who knows more about the real Link/Ganon and not a fan-fiction should handle it yes?

Play a Zelda game.
I've already established that;
1. Neither Vincent or Seph has ever hit light speed, and we've seen no quote, feat, or anything. If such a quote exists, I'd put money on it being obvious hyperbole.
2. Link and Ganon are both too durable to be harmed by silly class tens. Concrete abnd steel are not more durable than characters who fight each other with class 100+ strength.
3. I have a hangover, and am not feeling particularly generous with my time today. You're lucky I've even acknowledged you.

Trust me, I would if you made it. I would love to tunnel through hyrule with my 1k strength Link, pick up Ganons castle, toss it across the world and crush the Deku tree by mistake only to dodge Ganons lightspeed omniversal godzor rays!

Lol. If I made a Zelda game, I'd bring back elements of Majora's Mask. ****ing loved that game. So much depth. Shame it went under appreciated due to it's late release.

Edit: from what I understand you enjoy in a game, you'd probably love Majora's Mask.

I do not have any nintendo consoles, and I doubt I have the space for them if I wanted to play Zelda unfortunatley.

may I please see a link or refference to this Dissidia ultmania?

edit: Is this what you been referring to?

http://finalfantasy.cc/ffmembers/dissidia/ulti.jpg

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Shame he hasn't, and there's been no quote supplied, and even if it does exist, is more than likely simple hyperbole. Quote from Dissidia:

"Oblivion - Light-speed movement continuously damaging foe."

When Sephiroth uses Oblivion, he moves instantly to the opposite side of his foe, who is then assaulted by a combo of hits too fast to be seen. Make of that what you will, but it fits the above description. I'd show a video, but the game's only available on PSP. You'll have to take my word for it.

IMO, its enough to suggest that Sephiroth's speed isn't all hype.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm just gonna go ahead and let you know that Link's capable of doing a lot more damage with a sword than Sephiroth, don't bother making the comparison. Link doesn't have to do anything, though. He can sit around and lol while Sephiroth and Vince get their shit pushed in by Ganon. They have no answer to his durability or power, and especially not to being trapped between dimension. Seems like they're gonna have to go hang out with C'Thulhu until the stars are right. haermm

You know how many FF characters are capable of that same magic to banish people in dimensions

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lolargumentfromgameplaymechanics. Because allowing the player to just tunnel through every wall in the game is so conducive to an exploration and puzzle based game. It also goes right thorugh NPC's without hurting them. Apparently Link's sword can't kill people. /eyeroll.

Edit: when Sephiroth or Cloud have some kind of strength feat worth note by comparison, you might have an argument.

Well instead of slicing through the rocks, he works to get bombs or some sort of strength enhancer to help him move it instead correct?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Play a Zelda game.
I've already established that;
1. Neither Vincent or Seph has ever hit light speed, and we've seen no quote, feat, or anything. If such a quote exists, I'd put money on it being obvious hyperbole.
2. Link and Ganon are both too durable to be harmed by silly class tens. Concrete abnd steel are not more durable than characters who fight each other with class 100+ strength.
3. I have a hangover, and am not feeling particularly generous with my time today. You're lucky I've even acknowledged you.

This goes back to the needing equipment to move boulders, then again I'm sure thats mechanics as well seeing as it has been stated he can slice through rocks easily if they are evil in heart haermm

1. Dissidia is completely canon to FF. Also Chaos Vincent was impaled by two swords and still had enough to reappear behind his oppenant in mere milliseconds, so what speed feat have link & ganon to stopping this?
2. Class 100+ strength? Link needs special boots to stop a goron, that a normal human was able to stop as well with the boots, special gloves to pick up a bomb, and bombs to blow rocks. Ganon survived a crashing castle isn't much seeing as he is only capable of losing to the master sword & seeing as that would make the match illegal what else does he have? He gets impaled by a sword and he shuts down like a computer.
3. That hangover is obviously lasting

id like to point out that the above mentioned speed feat was in super slo-mo, as was the majority of that particular fight scene - the only time the fight is seen in real-time is the birds-eye shot where both chaos vincent and weiss are moving fast enough to appear to be in 20 different places at once

Originally posted by SpadeKing
1. Dissidia is completely canon to FF. Also Chaos Vincent was impaled by two swords and still had enough to reappear behind his oppenant in mere milliseconds, so what speed feat have link & ganon to stopping this?
2. Class 100+ strength? Link needs special boots to stop a goron, that a normal human was able to stop as well with the boots, special gloves to pick up a bomb, and bombs to blow rocks. Ganon survived a crashing castle isn't much seeing as he is only capable of losing to the master sword & seeing as that would make the match illegal what else does he have? He gets impaled by a sword and he shuts down like a computer.
3. That hangover is obviously lasting

1. Well, let's make Brawl canon to Link. He dodges lasers and is therefore easily capable of dodging even "lightspeed" Sephiroth.

2. The concept of physics escape you. Let's say that you and I can both lift one hundred and fifty pounds. However, you weigh three hundred pounds, and I only weigh one hundred and fifty pounds. Clearly you have an amazing advantage because it is much easier for you to move me, because I am not as large as you. This is why Link needs the Iron Boots to wrastle them thar Gorons He is just as strong, but not quite as heavy.

It is already well established that Ganon can only lose to the Master Sword, and that this is not true for these threads. So we toss that aside, but that doesn't mean we toss aside his MS related feats. He has still tanked incredible amounts of damage from the sword and things other than the sword. He survived a beating with the sword from Link, brought down his castle, got out of the rubble to fight Link again, was stabbed with the sword in the skull and still did not die. Keep in mind the sword is his weakness. It's like Kryptonite to Superman.

Those are just OoT.

3. Yet he's still thinking more clearly than you. Hmm...

it doesnt work like that - brawl isnt canon, and dissidia is - thats that
also, even with the laser dodging feat he wouldnt be faster than seph..

>_>

I might not have played every FF game there is, but I am pretty damn sure that not all of them take place on the same planet in different time periods. I believe this classifies Dissidia as a crossover and therefore is not canon.

its explained in the game, if you bothered to play it

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
>_>

I might not have played every FF game there is, but I am pretty damn sure that not all of them take place on the same planet in different time periods. I believe this classifies Dissidia as a crossover and therefore is not canon.

Dissidia is FF1 (Near the end), everything is explained storywise to allow the 'crossover'. It was designed, developed and published by Sqaure Enix which is as much as Canon as you can get.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucY2k8LhvEU

Chaos Vincent speed feat. Watch the end and try to keep up.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. Well, let's make Brawl canon to Link. He dodges lasers and is therefore easily capable of dodging even "lightspeed" Sephiroth.
dodging a machine that is controlling light is different than dodging the light itself. i mean i could dodge a laser beam being swung by a person (not really, but the point still stands), now if the lasser pointer was pointed right at me and i was to have him push the button and then i dodge, i would instantly fail for obvious reasons, and the latter is not what link did

Originally posted by ESB -1138
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucY2k8LhvEU

Chaos Vincent speed feat. Watch the end and try to keep up.
just to clarify, everything before 0:52 is in slow-motion - the few seconds between 0:52 and 0:56 is what is transpiring in real-time, as i mentioned earlier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4TZnSSd4OA&feature=rec-fresh+div-r-7-HM this is a better example, start at 27 seconds

I'm not getting how this helps Sephiroth or Vincent, at all. They have no way of taking out the other two characters.

Apparently Seph can only move at light speed during one special attack, in a crossover, and it's more of a teleport, probably hyperbole, and wholly inconsistant. He could be FTL though, and it wouldn't matter, Ganon would still solo this thread.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. Well, let's make Brawl canon to Link. He dodges lasers and is therefore easily capable of dodging even "lightspeed" Sephiroth.

2. The concept of physics escape you. Let's say that you and I can both lift one hundred and fifty pounds. However, you weigh three hundred pounds, and I only weigh one hundred and fifty pounds. Clearly you have an amazing advantage because it is much easier for you to move me, because I am not as large as you. This is why Link needs the Iron Boots to wrastle them thar Gorons He is just as strong, but not quite as heavy.

It is already well established that Ganon can only lose to the Master Sword, and that this is not true for these threads. So we toss that aside, but that doesn't mean we toss aside his MS related feats. He has still tanked incredible amounts of damage from the sword and things other than the sword. He survived a beating with the sword from Link, brought down his castle, got out of the rubble to fight Link again, was stabbed with the sword in the skull and still did not die. Keep in mind the sword is his weakness. It's like Kryptonite to Superman.

Those are just OoT.

3. Yet he's still thinking more clearly than you. Hmm... Originally posted by MadMel
it doesnt work like that - brawl isnt canon, and dissidia is - thats that
also, even with the laser dodging feat he wouldnt be faster than seph..

Also whats in the Ultimania is canon otherwise the creators wouldn't have said it was ermm
Also you're missing the point, Link couldn't stop the Gorons as well with his class 100+ strength but with the boots he could AS WELL as a NORMAL human in his village.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm not getting how this helps Sephiroth or Vincent, at all. They have no way of taking out the other two characters.

Apparently Seph can only move at light speed during one special attack, in a crossover, and it's more of a teleport, probably hyperbole, and wholly inconsistant. He could be FTL though, and it wouldn't matter, Ganon would still solo this thread.

We still haven't gotten any reason they can win now considering their disadvantages. Dimensional banish? Basically everyone in FF universe knows it. Link's sword? He does less damage than Sephiroth judging by your qoutes earlier.

I've never seen Sephiroth banish anyone to hang out with C'Thulhu, Vincent either?

And k, wiseguy, explain swordlocking with Ganondorf.

Link and Ganon can't lose. Also, lolwut at Sephiroth being more dangerous with a sword than Link. Seph's class 10 at best.

Edit: I just searched and can't find a Cloud v.s. Ganon thread. Odd.

Okay, so the Dissidia crossover is allowed because it was given a backstory? Whoopee.

Brawl would still be allowed.

Good lord, MooCow, would you actually read people's posts for once? Dissidia is canon because the creators of it and the other FF games have stated it's canon. There's an entire book devoted to the game that was made by it's creators that explains that it is in fact canon to the other FF games.

Brawl, on the other hand, has never been stated to be canon by Nintendo's big wigs and doesnkt even have a backstory that explains in a sensible manner why all these characters and worlds are together.

Dissidia can be as canon as it wants, Team FF still has no chance. /Shrug. Ganon alone still easily soloes this thread.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Good lord, MooCow, would you actually read people's posts for once? Dissidia is canon because the creators of it and the other FF games have stated it's canon. There's an entire book devoted to the game that was made by it's creators that explains that it is in fact canon to the other FF games.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Okay, so the Dissidia crossover is allowed because it was given a backstory? Whoopee.

Brawl would still be allowed.

Hmm, that appears to be what I said. So I'm going to tell you to practice what you preach.




In the SSE, there is one large landmass and a floating island. As we unlock different places on this large landmass we unlock more characters.

Gee, I wonder what the backstory is?

When Ganon can take a hit from an object moving at lightspeed he might have a chance, but until then he's takend down handily.

Sephiroth's never hit anythign at light speed, argument destroyed.

Now, when Sephiroth can actually hurt Ganon, or survive so much as Ganon sneezing on him, come back.

Apparently you have no reading comprehension. Let me simplify it even further for you, champ.

Dissidia: Creators said it's canon.

SSB games: Creators have never even hinted at them being canon.

Hopefully you get it now. Sport.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Apparently you have no reading comprehension. Let me simplify it even further for you, champ.

Dissidia: Creators said it's canon.

SSB games: Creators have never even hinted at them being canon.

Hopefully you get it now. Sport.

Show me a source.

And Nintendo has never said Brawl isn't canon. Either way, a crossover is a crossover.

Sephiroth does not need lightspeed, neither Link or Ganon are really that fast, Sephiroth is a faster swordsman and in movement speed than either of them quite handily and can solo this. Their necks have never been shown as durable as the buildings and the giant high tech weaponry that Sephiroth casually slices through like a hot knife through butter.

Yes they have. Play a Zelda game.

They are also too slow to even hit Sephiroth as well and would likely be crushed by Sephiroths telekinetic powers, Link anyway. Assuming he has the MS Link will have it taken from him in his helpless state and Sephiroth will destroy Ganon with it.

Sephiroth can't TK Link and especially not the master sword. I lol'd hard. Play. A. Zelda. Game.

Furthermore, like I keep saying, Link sits back and lolz because Ganon soloes this with ease. His TK is muuuuch much stronger than Sephiroth's, as well as his power in general. Sure, Seph might be a bit quicker, but that'll only help him run away. Until Ganon TK's him.

You have not shown evidence of Link or the MS avoiding TK, certainly not Sephiroths mental powers.

Seph is not a bit quicker, he is far faster than what Ganon has shown, both in attack and movement. Ganon will not even have a target, whats he going to do attack the empty piece of ground Sephiroth has already blurred away from? his reactions are not fast enough to fight sephiroth.

Ganons TK has done what? we still have not seen him levitating his castle with TK which has been claimed before, show this.

Your post can be summed up as;
"I have never played a Zelda game, and clearly know **** all about what I'm trying to argue."

In OoT Ganon spends half the game casually levitating his castle with no effort. And the sword's been PISing its' way to victory since 1994, consistantly. It's established that no evil can touch it, and it protects the wielder, as well as being an infinity+1 sword against evil, chopping through barriers and reflecting magic, and shooting lasers and all sorts of other broken crap.

Is this stated, show me where its stated Ganon is actually levitating his castle the whole time? using Tk as well?

Thats a no limits fallacy and a huge assumption. No evil can touch it lol......I guess if DC lucifer or Satan from Spawn comics attempted to attack him they would be vanquished by the MS?


What a joke....its a puny sword with a few hypbole statements and no limits fallacies and has no real feats that you can show that mean it would defend link from Sephiroth.

Your ignorance is showing. The sword has more feats than most characters do. Among them, being able to override the triforce. Pin down Ganon's power for centuries, even after Ganon's killed the sages and robbed it of most of it's power, reflecting Ganon's own magic back to him, ect.. Lol. If you think Sephiroth can ever hope to touch the sword, you're delusional.

Funny how your not actually showing any feats and are making statements that are likely full of half truths nad plays on words. Actually show the MS doing half of these things, including stopping TK. I do not want any of your fan-fiction to run amongst actual facts.

Play a Zelda game. Truth is, I don't care if you "believe me". (Read, you're in denial, these things have all been shown before.) You're not exactly a respected debater for obvious reasons. If you did bother to actually play the games these characters and feats are from you'd discover I'm very accurate.

Edit: you're going on ignore before I waste any more time on you.

I thought so, you cannot actually show evidence and your fan-fictions are likely the only font of "truth" and "fact" you draw from, perhaps there is someone with some knowledge of the "real" LoZ who can replace the hungover one.....

Whats amusing is that Pastes assumption on the MS powers of uberest protectionz are likely to the same extent as the Zelda wiki.



What iron-clad evidence!

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Show me a source.

And Nintendo has never said Brawl isn't canon. Either way, a crossover is a crossover.

then if brawl is canon Captain Olimar is capable of beating alot of people minus his pikmin cause he can dodge light speed lasers too

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes they have. Play a Zelda game.

When has their neck been hit by anything?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Your post can be summed up as;
"I have never played a Zelda game, and clearly know **** all about what I'm trying to argue."

In OoT Ganon spends half the game casually levitating his castle with no effort. And the sword's been PISing its' way to victory since 1994, consistantly. It's established that no evil can touch it, and it protects the wielder, as well as being an infinity+1 sword against evil, chopping through barriers and reflecting magic, and shooting lasers and all sorts of other broken crap.

I've played all of them, I completely despise Sephiroth and personally see him as over rated, & yet you can't convince me how he loses to ganondoof and lump.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Your ignorance is showing. The sword has more feats than most characters do. Among them, being able to override the triforce. Pin down Ganon's power for centuries, even after Ganon's killed the sages and robbed it of most of it's power, reflecting Ganon's own magic back to him, ect.. Lol. If you think Sephiroth can ever hope to touch the sword, you're delusional.

The sword was made for that specific reason, its not some random special sword that link can find, it is a legendary sword that is consistently used made for that one specific reason, beat the triforce of power wielder. Even if sephiroth doesn't attack Link, Chaos Vincent destroys him, Link can't do much against that speed and power.

Fanboyism is highly unbeatable on this forum I noticed

He seems to think I hate Zelda yet seems to forget I have had experiance with Sephiroth fans in the past that he pales in comparison to. Although I admit they actually sometimes had half interesting arguments even if they were based on rot. His are either non excistent or boring.

I think my favorite was Sephiroth imploding the sun... but not being able to kill anyone (coughillusioncough)

Their entire bodies have been exposted to extreme forces and your going to propose just their necks are some how less durable than the rest of them? Lol?

Then you should play them again and pay attention. In WW Ganon destroys an island, even with the bulk of his power pinned down by that same sword, in OoT he TK's his entire castle passively, and then demolishes it after a fight with Link. He also takes his own Anathema to the face four times, and he doesn't die. He's just pissed off. Let me emphasis that four strikes from his own anathema in the hands of a being that can chuck thousand ton pillars is not something Sephiroth or Vincent will ever be able to emulate.

As for "a lump", Link won the Link v.s. Sephiroth thread by such silly means as throwing an apple. Chaos Vincent's no better. And Link doesn't have to do anything in this fight except laugh, because neither Chaos or Seph can hurt Ganondorf or himself.

Actually, you're wrong, it's the blade of evil's bane, not the blade of Ganon's bane. It existed before he did, infact. and yeah, it's an incredibly powerful and legendary artifact. Which does nothing to deminish it's effectiveness against Sephiroth.

I think screams argument is going to be simply ignored until he actually orders it a little. Against me he complains I need to play the games, and against someone who has played hte games appraently their perception is not good enough? The guys a joker I understand but if hes trying to make a serious argument I suggest he actually finds sources to back him up, preferably in the form of youtube vids....

While the actual destruction of the sun is an illusion, Supernova as an attack does exist canonically and is incredibly powerful. In Crisis Core it's confirmed that it's his signature move, The 10th anniversary Ultimania says he has it, The CC Complete Guide says that it does indeed hit with "the power of an expanding star"(meaning that while it doesn't actually blow the sun up it hits with the same amount of force as if it actually had blown up), and Dissidia says the attack is so powerful it can "send destruction even into other dimensions."

It's funny that no matter how many times Screampaste is asked for evidence on Ganon doing this stuff, he just responds "play a Zelda game." What a lazy fanboy.

Thanks for showing that quotes in FF have a tendency for exageration, FC. You're very helpful.

As for Nemesis X, I've posted the videos before. BT still needs to play a Zelda game.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
What a lazy fanboy.

Scream, you have got to be the most blind fanboy I've ever heard of. The creators of a game are it's gods, whatever they say is a canon fact. You calling it exaggeration just shows everyone here that you know you've lost this but can't admit it, as rather than trying to give a durability feat against lightspeed attacks or attacks as powerful as an exploding sun you just try to baselessly discredit the source. This is an incredibly lame debate fallacy, stop embarrassing yourself.

You just claimed supernove has the power of an expanding star, and for some reason doesn't vapourise the planet. G.G., I win.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Their entire bodies have been exposted to extreme forces and your going to propose just their necks are some how less durable than the rest of them? Lol?

Then you should play them again and pay attention. In WW Ganon destroys an island, even with the bulk of his power pinned down by that same sword, in OoT he TK's his entire castle passively, and then demolishes it after a fight with Link. He also takes his own Anathema to the face four times, and he doesn't die. He's just pissed off. Let me emphasis that four strikes from his own anathema in the hands of a being that can chuck thousand ton pillars is not something Sephiroth or Vincent will ever be able to emulate.

As for "a lump", Link won the Link v.s. Sephiroth thread by such silly means as throwing an apple. Chaos Vincent's no better. And Link doesn't have to do anything in this fight except laugh, because neither Chaos or Seph can hurt Ganondorf or himself.

Actually, you're wrong, it's the blade of evil's bane, not the blade of Ganon's bane. It existed before he did, infact. and yeah, it's an incredibly powerful and legendary artifact. Which does nothing to deminish it's effectiveness against Sephiroth.

Ever heard of weak points? Not that legend of zelda bosses never had any of them, including Ganon.

Where has it even been stated that Ganon TKs? I know he uses spells, thats more than likely what he did for the castle but I've never heard or seen him TK anything, next I'm gonna hear his psychic abilities would destroy mewtwo?

1,000 ton pillars where does that amount come from? Hangover? I'm sure those building chunks Seph's sword's chops off weighs 100,000 tons then cause they easily outsize the stone pillars & the material outweighs.

I went against Sephiroth in that thread just cause I was tired of how much people over rated him, but really I see Seph as the winner and this fight is ridiculously easy either one on FF7 side solos.

So I guess that sword ironically is only used by the ironic reincarnated Link who gets his same triforce and ironically fights Ganondorf who ironically gets the same triforce and all the problems in the world are caused by him ironically & the sword is used to fight his evil doing.

Let me put it this way, if you actually don't have any supporting evidence to anything, don't say anything at all.
"Play a LoZ game" is not a valid argument, thats about as valid as "play a final fantasy game."
Fanboyism doesn't win matches in the real world otherwise Mario would be destroying Goku in a fight (Note: Alot more people know & like Mario as opposed to Goku or anyone in DBZ.)

It does, the gods of FF VII have declared it so, meaning I win silly.

Actually, Ganon didn't. Lol, he'd defend himself until you light arrowed him. And still, this is a flawed argument. It comes from gameplay, is illogical, and Link isn't a boss, and Ganon has only ever had a 'weak point' in his monster form.
You obviously have no played every Zelda game, then.. Especially in the recent ones he can be seen using telekenisis consistantly.
Comes from volume x density. Also, wtflol? Those bits of falling debris were toothpicks compared to the pillars Link threw, and even then, Sephiroth only cut them as they fell down to him. Give spider man a sword strong enough to not break and he could do the same thing with class 10 strength. Furthermore, they'd be made of lighter materials because you don't build tall shit out of heavy shit our it can't sustain it's own weight.

You have nothing to support this. both characters on the FF side are too weak to hurt Ganon or Link, who are respectively class 100+, and deal with each other regularly. Ganondorf alone is enough to make this spite, lettign Link help is unnecessary.
They have no answer to Ganon's superior durability, strength, power, or variety of broken abilities. They both get banished to the gap between dimensions, or you know, killed, without achieving anything. You've claimed team FF wins.. But have no reasoning for it. G.G.
Take your own advice.

You don't listen well, so I'll repeat myself. That's for BT who's ignorance knows no bounds, and once wasted 3 pages of the social thread claiming Ganon is weak and a moron. Lulz.

So yeah. Until team FF has some answer to team Zelda's superior strength and durability, they simply cannot win. Call me a fanboy, but you haven't proved me wrong.

Making a hyperbolic statement doesn't make it canon that the power actually has that strength. Sooo, no. Taking it out of context to suit your argument ftw, right? Lol.

Nice try though. You do realise what an "expression" is, yes?

So; It's hyperbolic, illogical, and defies everythign else that has ever happened in the FF7 verse.

Yeaaah, I win.

See, it's funny, because hyperbolic and out of context describes any argument you've ever used to defend Link. All the evidence shows us he's barely above a normal human, trust me champ, I've played every main series LoZ game, but you take one silly pillar lifting feat, which requires gloves that can only move specific marked blocks, and use it to try to say Link can actually do more than get hurt when falling from a tree.

Sorry little guy, but you're not just being silly, you're being a hypocrite.

rocks < Metal haermm

so considering the chunk of the building I was referring to was larger than the pillar which was obviously stated are not pebbles want to think again?

lol guestimate fail

Sephiroth uses his mastery of magic & casts death which causes instant death. No wait he puts up his shield which makes him invenurable for a limited amount of time. No wait he completely stops them in time. Nah maybe he should just silence Ganon and make him fight like a real man. Or of course Vincent just shoots them ermm

see how well that works?

The whole gauntlets=1000 ton feat is based on whats pretty much gameplay given a short clip that shows link lifting it. The whole games basis would be in contradiction, link would be doing regular feats far greater than Kratos in his games if this was the case but intstead the whole basis of the game is a puzzle/exploration game as Scream has said so himself. Chances are is that this was just a fun element in LoZ just like bouncing gorons when they fall on lava and w/e other funny creature appears in LoZ.

If this happened in GoW or a game actually based around brutal killing, strength and fantasy entities who are well known to have enhanced strength then fair enough but trying to add accurate maths (not that I would know, for all I know it could be badly thought out with major flaws) to a game whos main basis does not revolve around realistic depictions of strength or power and instead puzzles, key finding and exploring is ridiculous. Its just an amusing anomoly that is given too much thought.

Moar arguments from gameplay mechanics, I see.
Seeing as no, your falling debris was much smaller...

It's really not a guestimate, it's impossibly light and under-cut.

Link's protected and Ganon's magic is more powerful. Also, this has never worked on the infinitely weakr Cloud... HM!?
Great, he can fly around like an ass for a few seconds before he dies... Ohwait, it doesn't stop him getting BFR'd.
All well and good, considering he can't actually hurt team 2. Brilliant! make the guy who can chuck thousand ton pillars with ease fist-fight you.
No destructive feat good enough to hurt them.

You done?

Lollinkfans.

Sephiroth solos with a Supernova, or he just beheads them at lightspeed, nothing in LoZ has ever hit with force like that.

Good thing he has no feats to back this.

Need I remind everyone that when Link and Ganon linked swords (and Ganon won out) Links sword barely flew further then 20 metres, where is that 100 tonner strength? That would have propeled links sword into oblivion. (TP)

It's like Ping Pong with a brick wall. They don't change but you have too.

You mean in OoT, when you had to be able to go GET the sword again, Killer? ..And then Ganon proceeded to disintegrate stone with raw strength? HMMm... Obvious answer is obvious.

My baaaaaaaaaaad. Wrong one.

So in TP what exactly is Links strength feat?

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Lollinkfans.

Sephiroth solos with a Supernova, or he just beheads them at lightspeed, nothing in LoZ has ever hit with force like that.

Supernova is a mere illusionary attack for the following reasons:

1) It would take a comet of undiscovered durability to fly through a planet and keep going.

2) Said comet would take an unreasonable amount of time to reach even one planet, much less a whole solar-system's worth. Also, it takes a retarded amount of time for Meteor, but Supernova works instantly? Illusionary BS.

3) One would think that the sun engulfing the planet might have a noticeable effect on that planet.

Ganondorf or Link solos here. Ganon wins via TK or banishment.
Link wins via Captain America-style shield throw decapitation.

Throwing a massive goron, sword locking with Ganondorf, pulling a dragon out of the air with the iron boots, and other displays of ridiculous retard strength.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Supernova is a mere illusionary attack for the following reasons:

1) It would take a comet of undiscovered durability to fly through a planet and keep going.

2) Said comet would take an unreasonable amount of time to reach even one planet, much less a whole solar-system's worth. Also, it takes a retarded amount of time for Meteor, but Supernova works instantly? Illusionary BS.

3) One would think that the sun engulfing the planet might have a noticeable effect on that planet.

Ganondorf or Link solos here. Ganon wins via TK or banishment.
Link wins via Captain America-style shield throw decapitation.

AHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Blind.

What is Ganons strength feat in TP? (Sword loking with Ganon) Which is pure gameplay yes?

Originally posted by K1ll3r
AHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Blind.


^ Good example of a fanboy response.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
^ Good example of a fanboy response.

Nah, we have already explained supernova as said in the ultimanias however you seem to just ignore it.

Originally posted by K1ll3r
Nah, we have already explained supernova as said in the ultimanias however you seem to just ignore it.

So, how can Supernova be justified as a legitimate attack?

I mean, its a mental attack that is cast on a mentally weak party (remember Aeris' death?) It's common knowledge that Cloud clearly has issues, so it makes sense that a mental attack would work on the weak minded.

Supernova is an illusion, if you have a powerful mind or are known to see through the false then perhaps you have a chance of making it useless.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Moar arguments from gameplay mechanics, I see.
Seeing as no, your falling debris was much smaller...

It's really not a guestimate, it's impossibly light and under-cut.

Link's protected and Ganon's magic is more powerful. Also, this has never worked on the infinitely weakr Cloud... HM!?
Great, he can fly around like an ass for a few seconds before he dies... Ohwait, it doesn't stop him getting BFR'd.
All well and good, considering he can't actually hurt team 2. Brilliant! make the guy who can chuck thousand ton pillars with ease fist-fight you.
No destructive feat good enough to hurt them.

You done?

He toys with Cloud when they fight.

Link is protected by what? His triforce prevents instant death now? Has anyone ever even known such a spell in LoZ?

What proof do you have that Ganon's magic is more powerful? Sephiroth is capable of bringing in comets (not the meteor, comet one of the mastered magic materia), Ganon has... a shadow ball from pokemon.

Link hasn't been hit by anything harder than a shot from a gun, let alone chaos vincent's death penalty.

Its not 1,000 tons unless you have an actually measurement, like I said those building chunks that Seph chops up is waaaay larger than than small pillar and even if it did go towards seph its easily chopped in pieces.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
Supernova is a mere illusionary attack for the following reasons:

1) It would take a comet of undiscovered durability to fly through a planet and keep going.

2) Said comet would take an unreasonable amount of time to reach even one planet, much less a whole solar-system's worth. Also, it takes a retarded amount of time for Meteor, but Supernova works instantly? Illusionary BS.

3) One would think that the sun engulfing the planet might have a noticeable effect on that planet.

Ganondorf or Link solos here. Ganon wins via TK or banishment.
Link wins via Captain America-style shield throw decapitation.

I believed its already ruled without valid proof Ganon knows no TK, casting a spell on a castle doesn't count, & if thats the case Seph & Vincent wins via banishment.
Link's shield can't hurt anyone.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
So, how can Supernova be justified as a legitimate attack?

I mean, its a mental attack that is cast on a mentally weak party (remember Aeris' death?) It's common knowledge that Cloud clearly has issues, so it makes sense that a mental attack would work on the weak minded.

Considering Cloud saw his home town get burned down, a girl he liked get slashed up & used as for experiments for 4 or 5 years then unable to move for 1 year until he watch Zack get gunned down... I'm sure he felt worse than a Vietnam veteran after that.
Aeris isn't mentally weak, Seph was multi-tasking while dead, holding up a shield, killing aeris, then holding back holy, summoning meteor, creating an illusionary town, etc... Seph was just mentally over powering with Jenova at his side.

Well everyone else has provided true existing moves and proof all we get is fanboy rants.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
Link is protected by what? His triforce prevents instant death now? Has anyone ever even known such a spell in LoZ?

Nayru's Love.

What proof do you have that Ganon's magic is more powerful? Sephiroth is capable of bringing in comets (not the meteor, comet one of the mastered magic materia), Ganon has... a shadow ball from pokemon.

If banishing a spiritual being to the gap between dimensions from anywhere on the planet isn't good enough for you, then I cant help someone who ignores the obvious.

Link hasn't been hit by anything harder than a shot from a gun, let alone chaos vincent's death penalty.

Moon implosion. (Majora's mask)


I believed its already ruled without valid proof Ganon knows no TK, casting a spell on a castle doesn't count, & if thats the case Seph & Vincent wins via banishment.

No TK? So capturing Zelda in a crystal and levitating/teleporting her to his castle doesnt count as TK now?

Link's shield can't hurt anyone.

Lmao. *recalls Twinrova fight*



Considering Cloud saw his home town get burned down, a girl he liked get slashed up & used as for experiments for 4 or 5 years then unable to move for 1 year until he watch Zack get gunned down... I'm sure he felt worse than a Vietnam veteran after that.
Aeris isn't mentally weak, Seph was multi-tasking while dead, holding up a shield, killing aeris, then holding back holy, summoning meteor, creating an illusionary town, etc... Seph was just mentally over powering with Jenova at his side.

Who cares what reason Cloud had for being a tard? Weak minded character is weak minded.

Supernova is not an illusion, period. Literally every official guide it's mentioned in says it's real, it's as powerful as an expanding star, and it can shatter dimensional barriers. Being strong minded will not save you from it, that's a fact.

It's like the summons, the change to the environment isn't real, for example Ifrit doesn't actually burn down the whole wutai forest when he appears, but the damage it does is 100% real.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Supernova is not an illusion, period. Literally every official guide it's mentioned in says it's real, it's as powerful as an expanding star, and it can shatter dimensional barriers. Being strong minded will not save you from it, that's a fact.

Oh, so you should just be like Cloud and take it to the face to save you from it? How about some proof?

It's like the summons, the change to the environment isn't real, for example Ifrit doesn't actually burn down the whole wutai forest when he appears, but the damage it does is 100% real.

So basically, you are saying its an illusion?

EDIT: Double post.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
He toys with Cloud when they fight.

Link is protected by what? His triforce prevents instant death now? Has anyone ever even known such a spell in LoZ?

What proof do you have that Ganon's magic is more powerful? Sephiroth is capable of bringing in comets (not the meteor, comet one of the mastered magic materia), Ganon has... a shadow ball from pokemon.

Link hasn't been hit by anything harder than a shot from a gun, let alone chaos vincent's death penalty.

Its not 1,000 tons unless you have an actually measurement, like I said those building chunks that Seph chops up is waaaay larger than than small pillar and even if it did go towards seph its easily chopped in pieces.



I believed its already ruled without valid proof Ganon knows no TK, casting a spell on a castle doesn't count, & if thats the case Seph & Vincent wins via banishment.

Link's shield can't hurt anyone.



Considering Cloud saw his home town get burned down, a girl he liked get slashed up & used as for experiments for 4 or 5 years then unable to move for 1 year until he watch Zack get gunned down... I'm sure he felt worse than a Vietnam veteran after that.
Aeris isn't mentally weak, Seph was multi-tasking while dead, holding up a shield, killing aeris, then holding back holy, summoning meteor, creating an illusionary town, etc... Seph was just mentally over powering with Jenova at his side.

Well everyone else has provided true existing moves and proof all we get is fanboy rants.

I'm going to highlight some things and mock you for them.

1. This makes Sephiroth a retard, because he has now lost to Cloud three times. You'd think after the first time you might learn.

2. There are Pokemon that can easily one-shot Sephiroth.

3. Ganon, Gorons, cannons, the ground, and various other things would like a word with you.

4. The italicized made me lol. And how do we know the size of those building chunks unless we have a measurement? But seriously, not all metal is harder, denser, or heavier than all stone.

5. Zant says "Hi!"

6. Lie.

7. You wish.

8. Sounds familiar.

naryu's love isn't gonna last forever, its a downgrade of FF7 Shield.

Vincent and Seph is capable of banishing too & basically every other FF character.

I would guess it would be wise to say that the giants save them, since skull kid was their as well & talking to them about not forgetting him.

I don't remember seeing the crystal go pulled in but I remember finding Zelda in a crystal in OoT.

Well one character with a one specific weakness, but according to screampaste weakpoints don't exist so maybe his shield can hurt people.

Just cause he thinks he is someone else then becomes slightly gender confused doesn't make him weak minded (maybe slightly retarded.)

This thread is great, it shows the world just how silly LoZ fanboys are.

Jealous?

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'm going to highlight some things and mock you for them.

1. This makes Sephiroth a retard, because he has now lost to Cloud three times. You'd think after the first time you might learn.

2. There are Pokemon that can easily one-shot Sephiroth.

3. Ganon, Gorons, cannons, the ground, and various other things would like a word with you.

4. The italicized made me lol. And how do we know the size of those building chunks unless we have a measurement? But seriously, not all metal is harder, denser, or heavier than all stone.

5. Zant says "Hi!"

6. Lie.

7. You wish.

8. Sounds familiar.

1. One of the main reasons I don't like Sephiroth, he gets whooped by Cloud. Consistently

2. Aside from Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Mewtwo, & Mew?

3. Gorons can be stopped by a normal human with the right shoes. Cannon, Ground, Ganon & various things <<<<<<<<<<<< Chaos Vincent guns.

4. touche... From what I see its larger.

5. Didn't Zant tk his neck for a fatality?

6. http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/you-lie-2-2.jpg

7. I don't know any vets who came home thinking they were their dead best friend then stole their girl & thought they were best friends with someone they never spoke to.

8. Yes indeed it does sound familiar here.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
1. One of the main reasons I don't like Sephiroth, he gets whooped by Cloud. Consistently

2. Aside from Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Mewtwo, & Mew?

3. Gorons can be stopped by a normal human with the right shoes. Cannon, Ground, Ganon & various things <<<<<<<<<<<< Chaos Vincent guns.

4. touche... From what I see its larger.

5. Didn't Zant tk his neck for a fatality?

6. http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/you-lie-2-2.jpg

7. I don't know any vets who came home thinking they were their dead best friend then stole their girl & thought they were best friends with someone they never spoke to.

8. Yes indeed it does sound familiar here.

3. Link = normal human? I lmao.

6. Twinrova, OoT. Shieldz CAN hurt people!

3. The Village leader TP can stop a goron
6. I just saw an opportunity he missed

Originally posted by SpadeKing
1. One of the main reasons I don't like Sephiroth, he gets whooped by Cloud. Consistently

2. Aside from Arceus, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Mewtwo, & Mew?

3. Gorons can be stopped by a normal human with the right shoes. Cannon, Ground, Ganon & various things <<<<<<<<<<<< Chaos Vincent guns.

4. touche... From what I see its larger.

5. Didn't Zant tk his neck for a fatality?

6.http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/you-lie-2-2.jpg

7. I don't know any vets who came home thinking they were their dead best friend then stole their girl & thought they were best friends with someone they never spoke to.

8. Yes indeed it does sound familiar here.

1. Neat.

2. Yes.

3. No, they cannot. And still, the concept of weight seems to escape you. And I highly doubt that.

4. But, you lack measurements, correct?

5. Zant's powers come from Ganon, Zant can TK. Put two and two together.

6. http://media.photobucket.com/image/NO%20U!/Ando108/No_U.jpg

7. No, but they came home to their country that hated them. People spit on veterans on their plane rides home. Imagine doing all that shit and coming home to hatred. I actually can't even believe you tried to make that comparison.

8. Quite.

1. very

2. wasn't a yes or no question

3. note that the village leader chief guy said he used thos boots he gives to link to cheat when he stopped the goron.

4. same for your pillars correct?

5. they have their own powers in the shadow world
brb

http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/twilight-princess/art/goron.jpg

3. No

7. What a real life & video game mental comparison? Some of those soldiers well deserved that treatment too, ever heard of my lai? or how ever it is spelled

8. yes indeed.

Originally posted by LLLLLink
http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/twilight-princess/art/goron.jpg

3. No

you realize how much larger & powerful sin bahamut is and how easily Cloud can send him falling to the earth and how much more weaker Cloud is to these guys?

Can I get a pic of Cloud lifting Sin Bahamut's entire body off of the ground using nothing more than physical strength plz?

I lol'd pretty hard. I'ver personally measured the pillar a thousand times, made it smaller, used an impossibly light density, made it smalle,r made it lighter, and shrunk it again to come out with an absolute MINIMUM of a thousand tons, assuming the damn pillar was made of styrofoam. Link chucked that baby at around 150 meters per second, and yet, again, for the sake of being conservative, and not jizzing all over everything, I round that down to 75 meters per second. Do you have any idea how much I've shrunk Link's strength? Ganondorf is even stronger than this, and in TP Link beats him in a swor lock. (Albeit after weakening him a bit).

I lol @ a gun or any other weapon from Vincent or Sephiroth hurting either character, who consistantly beat the living shit out of each other. Ganon's a casual island buster. He destroyed an island without his power in WW. He's also survived being stabbed through the face with the master sword, a weapon so powerful in aLttP it overrode the entire triforce. It also comes with the added benefit of making Link immune to TK and curses and other such lulzy crap from evil characters. Sorry Sephiroth.

Also, Bo didn't stop a moving Goron, he just didn't get totally embarrassed at sumo wrestling. Link stopped a massive Goron in motion, and threw it like a ball. He's been shot out of cannons directly at the ground, ect.. But that's all moot because we know he can go toe to toe with Ganon.

Hell I've done math all over this forum illustrating how lulzy the concept of either character hurting Ganon or Link is, and I know you've both seen it. But, for the lulz, I s'pose I'll get it again. Congrats on giving me something to do, I was bored anyway.

Did I mention yet, Ganon soloes? Cause, y'know. Neither one can hit him hard enough to so much as make him notice, and he can seal them in the gap between dimensions, bubble them, or just flat out kill them with brute force. Or sit around and tan until they're bored of wasting their time and BFR themselves.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
1. very

2. wasn't a yes or no question

3. note that the village leader chief guy said he used thos boots he gives to link to cheat when he stopped the goron.

4. same for your pillars correct?

5. they have their own powers in the shadow world
brb

1. Quite

2. Sure looked like one. Did you want me to name some?

3. And what is it that makes you think the village leader chief guy is a normal human?

4. No, I'm just using your logic against you.

5. Really? Because I don't believe Zant beat the **** out of Link and Midna in the shadow world. I also seem to recall Zant stating his powers came from Ganondorf, his god, in that same cutscene.

And that's a wrap, folks.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Scream, you have got to be the most blind fanboy I've ever heard of. The creators of a game are it's gods, whatever they say is a canon fact. You calling it exaggeration just shows everyone here that you know you've lost this but can't admit it, as rather than trying to give a durability feat against lightspeed attacks or attacks as powerful as an exploding sun you just try to baselessly discredit the source. This is an incredibly lame debate fallacy, stop embarrassing yourself.

I think this needs to be addressed.
It does matter one scintilla what the developers say or write. If its not IN THE GAME, it isnt canon, period. This is even stated in the rules on this forum (see rule 7). So please, no quotes from developers or the like (I'm looking at you, Halo book series).