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Deadline
Since Dark reign is over im making a new thread Frankencastle. Anyway heres Punisher # 13 first look.

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=1614

jesserw21
i think frankencastle is retarded -_-

ExodusCloak
Originally posted by Deadline
Since Dark reign is over im making a new thread Frankencastle. Anyway heres Punisher # 13 first look.

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=1614

I think it's hilarious.

Alpha Centauri
Doesn't matter to me, I don't read The Punisher outside of MAX.

-AC

Kazenji
i get both of the books myself

and on Frankencastle maybe the title needed a change.

Scythe
What the hell. Didn't know this actually happened. Seems like a what if? sort of thing. How the hell is he going to be a living person again?

Kazenji
Originally posted by Scythe
How the hell is he going to be a living person again?

Lets hope Mephisto does'nt come into.. thumbdown

-Pr-
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Doesn't matter to me, I don't read The Punisher outside of MAX.

-AC

Kris Blaze
I read "Frankenrine"

Scythe
Originally posted by Kazenji
Lets hope Mephisto does'nt come into.. thumbdown

Haha.

The MAX titles are good, they're what I've been sticking to, but I enjoy Castle being human and doing the shit he does. Now that he's an monster, well that just defeats the purpose. Very lame turn in my opinion.

Kazenji
I'm guessing for the people who are sticking with the MAX title have'nt read the older issues of the punisher (1987-1995).

Deadline
Originally posted by Scythe
Haha.

The MAX titles are good, they're what I've been sticking to, but I enjoy Castle being human and doing the shit he does. Now that he's an monster, well that just defeats the purpose. Very lame turn in my opinion.

Damn man. Everbody keeps saying that. Just because he gets powers doesn't stop him from being the Punisher thats just one view of the character.

Badabing
I'll keep reading the comics. But don't like that Castle has powers now.

Scythe
Originally posted by Deadline
Damn man. Everbody keeps saying that. Just because he gets powers doesn't stop him from being the Punisher thats just one view of the character.

Yeah, I understand that, but he's no longer the Punisher that I grew up with, ya know? Kinda like giving Batman superhuman strength all of a sudden.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Deadline
Damn man. Everbody keeps saying that. Just because he gets powers doesn't stop him from being the Punisher thats just one view of the character.

Yeah and going by the end of the last issue he's still going to be the Punisher gonna rip into them Monster killer soldiers.

vansonbee
I wonder if another retcon will happen... hmph

Trackz
maybe people should actually read something before writing it off as stupid.

Kazenji
An't that true with alot of things these days...

vansonbee
Originally posted by Trackz
maybe people should actually read something before writing it off as stupid. That not the point...

Frank was unique character, now he nearly similar to Batman status of "dark"

redhotrash
Being a normal guy trying to hang with all these superheroes is what made him different. He didnt have any unrealistic martial arts skills that let him catch bullets, or these so called "peak human" abilities that let him jump 20 feet in the air and lift 800 pounds. He was just a skilled and intelligent guy, why change that?

ExodusCloak
Really? People are upset that he got powers? Not that he was chopped up and turned into Frankestiens monster? "Gnooooooo".

Kazenji
Still would like to know what these "Powers" are.

Kris Blaze
He can heal...

Deadline
Originally posted by vansonbee
That not the point...

Frank was unique character, now he nearly similar to Batman status of "dark"

Wow reading something > unique

Why is just the fact that he didn't have any powers make him unique anyway. Really is that it?


Originally posted by redhotrash
Being a normal guy trying to hang with all these superheroes is what made him different. He didnt have any unrealistic martial arts skills that let him catch bullets, or these so called "peak human" abilities that let him jump 20 feet in the air and lift 800 pounds.

O really. Have you read any classic Punisher? Have you read his 1995 series?

Originally posted by redhotrash

He was just a skilled and intelligent guy, why change that?

1. Theres nothing wrong with change.
2. He lives in a world with superheroes sometimes its just wierd.
3. Maybe thats why his series didn't last that long. It lasted for awhile but maybe people got fed up with the same thing all the time, and maybe because you can't expand on the characters if you leave him as it is. The fact of the matter is for the Punisher to progress he can't just stay an intelligent skilled guy in 616 marvel.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He can heal...

When was that?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Trackz
maybe people should actually read something before writing it off as stupid.
read it, still think it stupid.

Deadline
Previews Frank is still skillful check out the sword move.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4279&disp=table

Kazenji
Punisher #14 preview

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.11069.sneak_peek~colon~_punisher_%2314

Bentley
I think that Frankencastle is an inspired and excellent move from Marvel AND I haven't read it.

Take that glass-half-empty guys!

Original Smurph
I think it's hilarious. In a "nobody likes Punisher enough to care" sorta way.

Kazenji
Alot of people don't, They prefer to read their heroes that fly around in their costume saving the world.

Deadline
Originally posted by Kazenji
Punisher #14 preview

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.11069.sneak_peek~colon~_punisher_%2314

Did you notice Bloodstone in those scans?


Originally posted by Original Smurph
I think it's hilarious. In a "nobody likes Punisher enough to care" sorta way.

Actually alot of Punisher fans are pissed.

starlock
Well i for one...have no problem with this...if his other titles were continuing......but i really dont care for it...i am not interested at all in Frankencastle.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Deadline
Did you notice Bloodstone in those scans?

Who ?





and very few actually like it.

outavodka
i like it smile and im also smart enough to know that he wont stay that way for long. i swear noone can be pleased these days, remember when people didnt like bone claw wolverine or ageis steel and soo on, no i realy can go on. if everything stayed the same superman would still be the flightless bum who had trouble picking up cars today.

Doctor-Alvis
When I look at these scans I can't help but imagine Flaming Carrot coming out of no where and hitting him in the face with his baloney cannon.

tjcoady
There's a goddamn reason we have a Punisher "Max" series and a "Punisher in the Marvel Universe" series...

One is for those who want the kind of realistic, gritty Garth Ennis stories, and the other are for people who want to see comics in which a Vietnam Vet whose family died becomes a Frankenstein monster.

Hell yes, I love comics.

Deadline
Originally posted by Kazenji
Who ?


Nevermind



Originally posted by Kazenji

and very few actually like it.

Actually there are quite a few people that like it, but its the minority.

Originally posted by outavodka
i like it smile and im also smart enough to know that he wont stay that way for long. i swear noone can be pleased these days, remember when people didnt like bone claw wolverine or ageis steel and soo on, no i realy can go on. if everything stayed the same superman would still be the flightless bum who had trouble picking up cars today.

Remender seems to imply its going to be permanent if its up to him.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Deadline
Nevermind


Well could you show me the scan of this Bloodstone person?

Deadline
Originally posted by Kazenji
Well could you show me the scan of this Bloodstone person?

Yeah but I thought you didn't know who he was. Guy on the right hand side with the gem in his chest.


http://marvel.com/images/648898./from/content.story.11069

Kazenji
Originally posted by Deadline
Yeah but I thought you didn't know who he was.

Thats why i'm asking.... erm

Deadline
doh!

inimalist
Worst part:

Man-Thing has been written terribly.

Deadline
Originally posted by inimalist
Worst part:

Man-Thing has been written terribly.

Hows that? Worst part?

Kazenji
Latest issue was good and yeah how was Man-Thing written terribly.

Trackz
I'm wondering if FrankenCastle will move into the reemerging magic corner of marvel (alongside Dr. Voodoo, Ghost Riders, and MI:13), or if he'll just go straight to mainstream after this arc.

Kazenji
Well i think Rick Remander might have plans to start up Legion of monsters again.

Deadline
Originally posted by Trackz
I'm wondering if FrankenCastle will move into the reemerging magic corner of marvel (alongside Dr. Voodoo, Ghost Riders, and MI:13), or if he'll just go straight to mainstream after this arc.

Not from what Remender said.

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24736

When the Punisher begins his payback tour he'll have plenty of targets. “We've got Lady Gorgon and her clan of Hand troops; the new Jigsaw, Stu Clarke; Frank's former ally turned enemy, Microchip; the Deadly Dozen; Daken; the Shaolin Scientist Squad and even the Hood. We've got so many of these great characters who have thrown Frank around for the last couple of years that I'm really excited for the moment that Frank crawls out of the sewers with his new power set,” Remender remarked. “For the rest of the MU the 'Dark Reign' is over and the 'Heroic Age' is upon us… for Frank it’s bloody business as usual. The shiny and brave new world outside will have one dark corner and in it you’ll find The Punisher going over his hit list. "

Trackz
Originally posted by Kazenji
Well i think Rick Remander might have plans to start up Legion of monsters again. yea man-thing )surprisingly) has had a couple of appearances in other stories, moreso than other characters, then there's dracula who has something to do with the frankcastle arc and appeared in dr. voodoo (only to be killed by voodoo right when was about to overpower doom)

i dunno if anyone has seen, FrankenCastle wil be meeting deadpool, so it's deadpools first sighting of Frank since being killed, and his first stride into the mainstream world

Deadline
previews are up.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4445

Kazenji
Tony Moore sums the two current punisher series good

Deadline
Originally posted by Kazenji
Tony Moore sums the two current punisher series good

Were did you get that from?

Kazenji
The forum which he posts on.

Trackz
http://i.newsarama.com/images/92_punisher_17_02.jpg

Punisher looks like he's back to normal (for the most part) in issue 17, but he must've find someway to keep his upgrade in power because that was the whole point of this like excursion.

Deadline
Originally posted by Kazenji
The forum which he posts on.

What forum is that???



Originally posted by Trackz
http://i.newsarama.com/images/92_punisher_17_02.jpg

Punisher looks like he's back to normal (for the most part) in issue 17, but he must've find someway to keep his upgrade in power because that was the whole point of this like excursion.

How is he back to normal? He still has the cybernetic enhancements. I was gonna post that.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Deadline
What forum is that???


http://jasonaaron.org/index.php

yeah Jason Aaron is also there along with few other writers.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Deadline
Since Dark reign is over im making a new thread Frankencastle. Anyway heres Punisher # 13 first look.

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=1614 kill it with fire

Kazenji
................ roll eyes (sarcastic)

SevenShackles
he just looks more ugly whats really changed? lol. its cool, i didnt think it be in 616 when i first herd of it. but why the hell not? ppl should calm down, dont act like this is the be all end all for punisher. they can bring him back. be it with tech or something else or even time travel. for fuk sake its comics. if bucky can come back punisher can be turned into a undead inhuman killing machine and back to a human inhuman killing machine before we know it.

relax.....enjoy the ride.
and if you miss old punisher... read other punisher books or god forbid re-read the ones you think are good until his brain is put into a shield clone body and he goes back to biz-ness as you like it.

Deadline
Frankencastle 14 was awesome Hellsgard is one hell of a villain. I might write more later.

Trackz
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25085

remender reveals who's first on Castle's list: Lady Bullseye

should be sick, that leads into a crossover with Dark Wolverine, which I'm looking forward too.

Deadline
Originally posted by Trackz
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25085

remender reveals who's first on Castle's list: Lady Bullseye

should be sick, that leads into a crossover with Dark Wolverine, which I'm looking forward too.

Lady Gorgon?

Trackz
Originally posted by Deadline
Lady Gorgon? yea, my bad

Kazenji
Punisher #15 preview

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4648&disp=table

Roland Boschi art has improved

Deadline
After doing the capability thread. I really dont want Punisher to stay as a monster. I just don't think hes done enough as a human to have a change. As a human hes kinda lost his respect and become a bit of a joke even those his stock did rise in PWJ and DR.

Deadline
They are changing the title to Frankencastle.
Hes getting a big upgrade
Hes staying with the legion of monsters.


http://uk.comics.ign.com/articles/107/1074426p1.html


IGN Comics: Now that the book doesn't have the word "Punisher" in the title, do you think that might help a little when it comes to fan expectations. Basically, if the book isn't called Punisher anymore, they might not expect to see those familiar trappings any longer?


Oh shit.

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.11530.the_rise_of_frankencastle

That's the case with The Punisher lately, as he's been hanging out in the Morlock tunnels with the Legion Of Monsters, helping defend them against monster hunters and the like in PUNISHER written by Rick Remender. Now, this June, the series title experiences a metamorphosis like its star and becomes FRANKENCASTLE with issue #17.

Mr. Rhythmic
Originally posted by Scythe
Haha.

The MAX titles are good, they're what I've been sticking to, but I enjoy Castle being human and doing the shit he does. Now that he's an monster, well that just defeats the purpose. Very lame turn in my opinion.

Trackz
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/articles/1271105739.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25681

jalek moye
I have a feeling Puishers whole undead thing is gonna make Daken's pheremones not work. And while he thinks Frank is effected he like Shoots daken in the face. which then proceeds to the beating up

Kazenji
Frank's gonna have to do something good to Daken just to damage him if he's anything like his father.

jalek moye
Originally posted by Kazenji
Frank's gonna have to do something good to Daken just to damage him if he's anything like his father.
Well hes less durable then his dad and seems to heal slower, so if Frank can keep beating on him with stuff, and shottong him up he should do some damage.

SamZED
Man, Deadpool 894 was a dissapointment. Not really a team-up just a couple of flashbacks. They only teamed up for like 1 page.erm

Kazenji
That Deadpool team up series has'nt been great at all.

BlackZero30x
so its pretty safe to say that i was smart in not getting it?...i was waiting on a review before picking it up...

Trackz
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
so its pretty safe to say that i was smart in not getting it?...i was waiting on a review before picking it up... its no different then the punisher remender has been giving us at all, if you liked his previews arcs, you'll like this.

AlmightyKfish
Considering he's Frankencastle now, I wonder how Frank will be involved in Shadowland...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25788

I mean, he looks pretty human in the art preview there...

-K-M-
I'm curious as to how long they will keep this up and return him back to human and how.

Kazenji
Originally posted by -K-M-
I'm curious as to how long they will keep this up and return him back to human and how.

As long as Mephisto is'nt involved.

Deadline
I have to say I really enjoyed the last issue of Punisher and thats more like it. However I dont like that artist Roland Buschi apparently he will be drawing next issue. Its only the way he draws Frankencastle though.

Kazenji
Tony Moore has been the best on this series followed by Jerome Opena.

Deadline
Booyah! Check this out. If this is Boschi I might need to reassess.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26161

Deadline
Boschi is starting to grow on me. 17# was good. Like I was saying Punisher killed his family because he believed it wasn't truly them.

Trackz
frank vs. daken can't come fast enough, so excited for that crossover

srankmissingnin
http://traffic.libsyn.com/ifanboy/iFanboy_podcast235a.mp3

Rick talked about Frankencastle a bit in this podcast (after all the Fear Agent talk) and how he came up with the idea. It's pretty funny. Check it out if anyone has any interest.

Deadline
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
http://traffic.libsyn.com/ifanboy/iFanboy_podcast235a.mp3

Rick talked about Frankencastle a bit in this podcast (after all the Fear Agent talk) and how he came up with the idea. It's pretty funny. Check it out if anyone has any interest.

Man that was funny. Extra-cellurlar matrix...damn. Rick is funny.

srankmissingnin
He looks like a Frankenstein, he looks like a Frankenstein, HE LOOKS LIKE A FRANKENSTEIN!!! eek!

Deadline
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He looks like a Frankenstein, he looks like a Frankenstein, HE LOOKS LIKE A FRANKENSTEIN!!! eek!

Im pretty sure he was like "Frank is a monster, hes broken down he feels like a monster, Frank is a monster...hes a monster...hes FRANKENSTEIN...hes FRANKENCASTLE!" laughing

The best bit was about how he described how he had a boner after realizing that the Exo-mind gives power proportional for the will for revenge laughing Man that was so funny im considering putting it as a my sig.

Kazenji
Like to know whats the deal with that Shadowland event how Frank appears normal.

Deadline
^ Me too

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/201009/100_SHADOWLAND_3.jpg

Trackz
according to the solicits, frank returns to normal in september meaning shadowland occurs a short time after

Deadline
Originally posted by Trackz
according to the solicits, frank returns to normal in september meaning shadowland occurs a short time after

You might have got that wrong. It does state that in September the Frankencastle arc ends but that doesn't mean its the end of Frankencastle. Remender still said that he would be writing Frankencastle till 2011. Its kinda confusing.

Im not saying you're wrong for definite its just you maybe. edit: I read the solicits again and it says era not arc.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26700

The shocking conclusion of the FrankenCastle era! After his brutal struggle to kill Daken in Tokyo, the Punisher is in rough shape. In order to restore his health, hacker comrade Henry Russo sends Frank to the nearest remote place he can find -- Monster Island. However, as his body heals, Frank’s mind begins to fade into madness. Someone needs to take him down. Someone named Elsa Bloodstone.

Deadline
http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=17153

He's back.

Deadline
Oh and theres this.

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=2334&page=5

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