Sherlock Holmes runs the gauntlet

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DarkNemesis
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Sherlock Holmes (Robert Downey Jr.) is put against the following in strict H2H combat i.e. no weapons. The setting is the same place shown in the picture above, where Holmes pwns that bald dude. The list is as follows:

1. Shawn MacArthur (Fighting)
2. Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones films)
3. Martin Riggs (Lethal Weapon)
4. Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
5. James Bond (Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace)
6. Bryan Mills (Taken)
7. Bruce Wayne (Batman Begins/The Dark Knight)
8. Frank Martin (Transporter)
9. Jason Bourne (Bourne Trilogy)
10. Nite Owl w/o armor (Watchmen)

How far does Holmes make it? If he doesn't clear, how will he fare against each of the combatants on the list individually?

Rogue Jedi
Why is Durden rated higher than Jones and Riggs?

DarkNemesis
I seem to remember Durden being a pretty hardass brawler, i.e. crazy damage soak, but then again haven't seen Indiana Jones and Lethal Weapon in a while. If memory serves they are all more or less brawlers aren't they?

You could be right about the misplacing though, but would it affect Holmes's performance here in any way?

BTW have you seen Sherlock Holmes yet?

Rogue Jedi
Indy is a brawler, Riggs is a badass martial artist.

I just thought the gauntlet would get harder as he progressed.

Nope.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by DarkNemesis
http://filmonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sherlock-holmes-wbfl-official-01.jpg

Sherlock Holmes (Robert Downey Jr.) is put against the following in strict H2H combat i.e. no weapons. The setting is the same place shown in the picture above, where Holmes pwns that bald dude. The list is as follows:

1. Shawn MacArthur (Fighting)
2. Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones films)
3. Martin Riggs (Lethal Weapon)
4. Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
5. James Bond (Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace)
6. Bryan Mills (Taken)
7. Bruce Wayne (Batman Begins/The Dark Knight)
8. Frank Martin (Transporter)
9. Jason Bourne (Bourne Trilogy)
10. Nite Owl w/o armor (Watchmen)

How far does Holmes make it? If he doesn't clear, how will he fare against each of the combatants on the list individually?


is holmes allowed to deduce?

DarkNemesis
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
is holmes allowed to deduce?

You mean that slow-mo precog thing? Yeah that's allowed.

Rogue Jedi
That wasn't precog, man, the guy in the vid telegraphed the hell outta his punches and was easy to predict. Deducing haermm Yeah, see if Bond gives him the chance.

I only saw the one fight scene, for now I say he gets pwned by Bond, IF he gets that far.

KingD19
He took another guy out by deducing things wrong with him before the fight started, and he took him down in about 3 seconds.

His deducing thing works, and it will work on most, if not all these guys.

Rogue Jedi
And what exactly was "wrong" with the guy? What did Holmes "deduce?"

KingD19
He saw him from a dark corner, and the guys back was turned. He figured he was deaf in one ear, and about 3 or 4 other problems in a few seconds. Then he capitalized on it and ko'd him in the next few seconds.

Rogue Jedi
And how did he figure the guy was deaf? And what else was wrong with him?

KingD19
I can't remember what else, he said it in quick British, which I couldn't understand all of it.

And I can't remember how he figured it out, go watch the movie and become a believer.

YOU CAN'T DOUBT SHERLOCK HOLMES!!!!!!!!!

Rogue Jedi
I know, bear in mind that I am going just with what I see in the vid, but I have been told here that the vid is one of his more impressive feats. Not enough to make it past Bond IMO.

KingD19
Yes, it is one of his more impressive feats, and remember, Holmes deduced what he would do before he even really got his punches going.

One Free Man
Originally posted by DarkNemesis
http://filmonic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sherlock-holmes-wbfl-official-01.jpg

Sherlock Holmes (Robert Downey Jr.) is put against the following in strict H2H combat i.e. no weapons. The setting is the same place shown in the picture above, where Holmes pwns that bald dude. The list is as follows:

1. Shawn MacArthur (Fighting)
2. Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones films)
3. Martin Riggs (Lethal Weapon)
4. Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
5. James Bond (Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace)
6. Bryan Mills (Taken)
7. Bruce Wayne (Batman Begins/The Dark Knight)
8. Frank Martin (Transporter)
9. Jason Bourne (Bourne Trilogy)
10. Nite Owl w/o armor (Watchmen)

How far does Holmes make it? If he doesn't clear, how will he fare against each of the combatants on the list individually? nice sig, I see we wear the same mask.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by KingD19
Yes, it is one of his more impressive feats, and remember, Holmes deduced what he would do before he even really got his punches going. As I said, dude was telegraphing his punches. Any accomplished fighter would have figured what Holmes did.

Robtard
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how did he figure the guy was deaf? And what else was wrong with him?

By the way he held his head to listen.

Holmes is the supreme master at paying attention to detail, even the smallest doesn't escape him, he can glance at you and size you up, just like that.

EG If he was fighting you, he'd immediately deduce you're a homosexual. So he'd whip his dick out, knowing you'd uncontrollably look down and begin to salivate; he'd use this distraction to jab you in the eye with right thumb, slam into your temple with left palm, thereby disorientating and drop you with a heel-kick that breaks your kneecap. This is (Downey) Holmes.

rakugaki
Mills has a very particular set of skills. He uses those to thrash Holmes.

KingD19
That ex-Jedi seemed to take a thrashing in every fight, regardless of whether he won or not. He also had this weird thing about shooting people in the neck.

dadudemon
Originally posted by rakugaki
Mills has a very particular set of skills. He uses those to thrash Holmes.

laughing

I see what you did there.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Robtard
By the way he held his head to listen.

Holmes is the supreme master at paying attention to detail, even the smallest doesn't escape him, he can glance at you and size you up, just like that.

EG If he was fighting you, he'd immediately deduce you're a homosexual. So he'd whip his dick out, knowing you'd uncontrollably look down and begin to salivate; he'd use this distraction to jab you in the eye with right thumb, slam into your temple with left palm, thereby disorientating and drop you with a heel-kick that breaks your kneecap. This is (Downey) Holmes. The vid I posted, he had already been fighting that guy a while before he did his deducing thing, right?

RocasAtoll
That was because Holnes was messing with him and didn't care about ending the fight until he saw Adler.

He'd probably be stopped by Bond, and if not him, then Mills would take him out.

KingD19
Yeah, Holmes was prolonging the fight on purpose, because he wanted people to bet more against him, so when he won, he would get more money.

Robtard
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The vid I posted, he had already been fighting that guy a while before he did his deducing thing, right?

He had. That is irrelevant to his ability to size people up instantly though.

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by Robtard
He had. That is irrelevant to his ability to size people up instantly though. I see. So he faces off against Riggs. Riggs enters the ring, takes his shirt off, and begins to loosen up. What will Holmes deduce?

KingD19
Probably something like, this guy is confident in himself from the way he's standing, yadda yadda.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I see. So he faces off against Riggs. Riggs enters the ring, takes his shirt off, and begins to loosen up. What will Holmes deduce?

Easy: that his shoulder could becomes easily dislocated, that he probably can kick really well, and that he's a huge anti-Semite.

Rogue Jedi
Riggs doesn't do anything when his shoulder is not injured to give away that it is injured.

I changed my mind, Holmes doesn't get past Riggs. Proof? LW2.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Riggs doesn't do anything when his shoulder is not injured to give away that it is injured.

Sure, to people like you and I, but not Holmes. no expression

Rogue Jedi
Originally posted by dadudemon
Sure, to people like you and I, but not Holmes. no expression And look at LW 2, when his shoulder was dislocated, he was drowning, escaped, and pwned two guys h2h, all the while injured.

KingD19
But if Holmes dislocates that shoulder, he's gonna work on it.

Rogue Jedi
And, as usual, Riggs'll relocate it and go into rage mode. Riggs breaks mother****ers necks like they were toothpicks.

Nightstick
Originally posted by DarkNemesis
Shawn MacArthur (Fighting)


Shawn goes down hard. He was barely winning the fights in his movie and none of his opponents were Holmes caliber.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
2. Indiana Jones (Indiana Jones films)


Indy takes it. Holmes can deduce all he wants, but deduce tha his opponent may be weak to nuclear weapon, if their are no kitchen appliences about. Isn't going to be terrible helpful. In other words Holmes doesn't have doesn't have the power to get threw Indy's durability.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
3. Martin Riggs (Lethal Weapon)


Riggs is a skilled martial artist and a solid brawler. however those alone wouldn't put him above Holmes what puts him above Holmes is his rather unpridictable nature. Which I see Holmes evetualy being able to predict, but not soon enough.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
4. Tyler Durden (Fight Club)


Holmes. Durden was a decent brawler, but nothing special.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
5. James Bond (Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace)


Holmes. Bond can be skilled, but more often then not relies on being stronger and tougher then his opponents. He did seem to have Holmes speed either.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
6. Bryan Mills (Taken)


Holmes. 20-30 year ago Mills likely had the skill ans speed to win, but now he has far to many exploitable physical issues.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
7. Bruce Wayne (Batman Begins/The Dark Knight)


Holmes. Bruce relies on being able to disengage, hide, and strike. WHich is not going to happen here.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
8. Frank Martin (Transporter)


Martin. He is considerably skilled, has incredible(though human level) reaction time, thinks very well on his feet, and has pulled off some very percise measuements on the fly.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
9. Jason Bourne (Bourne Trilogy)


Bourne. He demonstrated, though not as often verbale to size up a situation and predict behavoir the same way Holmes did, but he was faster at it, and was way tougher.

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
10. Nite Owl w/o armor (Watchmen)


Nite-Owl. Wasn't he, Meta-human in regards to physical stats.

Rogue Jedi
If Mills is in "wheres my daughter mode", he wrecks Holmes.

Darth Martin
Probably stops at Nite Owl. He's too fast and tactical minded for everyone else.

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