Will Halo Reach surpass Modern warfare 2?

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Anansi
Will Halo Reach surpass Modern warfare 2 in regards to sales?

Morridini
Definitley not, even if you just look at the 360 sales, it still won't. There's way too many people who's fed up with Halo by now.

Gooogle Bot
On xbox 360, probably and maybe most likely. However, I'll doubt it will beat overall sales.

FistOfThe North
I don't think so. Halo 3 was a let down and alot of players have either gave up Halo or are just about tired of the franchise. And that's not counting Halo 3 odst. Another let down.

Halo Reach will either make or break the series. There will be no in between. Reach'll be the franchises last good chance so they better throw the gloves off on this one. Then maybe it can surpass MW2 in sales. They'd have to make it the ultimate video game. Superior story, superior gameplay, superior online capabilities, fix all glitches, superior graphics unlike never seen before.

it can be done.

§P0oONY
It's an unlikely possibility on the 360 but not overall obviously.

AsbestosFlaygon
No

Peach
Not likely. MW2 completely destroyed everything else that has come out, and the Halo franchise has been more of a disappointment than usual this year (Halo Wars, Halo ODST). Even fans of the series are wary of it now.

S_D_J
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
No

Anansi
Ya that's what i was thinking i just saw somewhere they said it would sell more on xbox.

Darth Vicious
Being a huge Halo fan, I dont feel the anticipation for Reach. Maybe Ill change my mind once the beta comes out but right now my answer is no. Halos ranking system completely blows. I can win 5-6 games in a row and wont level up. Lose one or two and its very likely that ull go down.

SaTsuJiN
I dont think so.. the lore of halo is interesting.. but what bungie does with it is not.. I think if another studio got a hold of the halo property they'd do alot better job with it

BackFire
There's an oversaturation of Halo right now. They need to shelf the series for a few years so that when a new one comes out people will be excited again.

Even though I do like that they are taking a darker less cartoony route with Halo Reach.

WickedDynamite
Originally posted by Anansi
Will Halo Reach surpass Modern warfare 2 in regards to sales?

No, I don't it will happen.

Halo Reach will certainly have good sales. But MW2 is a whole different animal. Personally, I can't wait to get my hands on Reach...Halo Wars was not for me and ODST was so-so. So Reach is the title that gets me going.

Spartan005
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I don't think so. Halo 3 was a let down and alot of players have either gave up Halo or are just about tired of the franchise. And that's not counting Halo 3 odst. Another let down..



I still don't get what people were expecting from Halo 3, which is my favorite game of the series. Can anyone please inform me?

Anyway, I doubt Reach will sell as well as MW2 mainly because more than likely there's no Master Chief. It should do better than ODST though, considering the huge fanbase of Eric Nylunds "The Fall of Reach" and the thought of teaming up with other spartans for the first time ever.

jinXed by JaNx
I think Call of Duty has a far greater appeal as an FPS than Halo. I think most people that play Halo are franchised fans where as most people who play Call of duty are just fans of the FPS style.

Gooogle Bot
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I don't think so. Halo 3 was a let down and alot of players have either gave up Halo or are just about tired of the franchise. And that's not counting Halo 3 odst. Another let down.



Last time I've checked, Halo 3 was the second most played game (yet it's 2 year old) on xbox live so I'm not too entirely sure that most players have gave up on it. I mean it'll definitely be close though.

Smasandian
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I think Call of Duty has a far greater appeal as an FPS than Halo. I think most people that play Halo are franchised fans where as most people who play Call of duty are just fans of the FPS style.

The thing is that without franchise fans, your series can downhill very quickly.

Probably won't do that because I think CoD has just the same type of fans Halo does.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I dont think so.. the lore of halo is interesting.. but what bungie does with it is not.. I think if another studio got a hold of the halo property they'd do alot better job with it
Yeah...

Speaking of Bungie, lol?

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Play-Halo-3-To-Help-Haiti-22291.html

I'm gonna play Halo 3 more often now so I can help the people in Haiti. dur

Zack Fair
The only Spartan II member of the squad is the guy with the skull helmet. The rest are all Spartan III

Kris Blaze
Will Halo Sales Reach surpass Grenade Grenade Grenade: Grenade Grenade 2? Possibly.

H. S. 6
Originally posted by Zack Fair
The only Spartan II member of the squad is the guy with the skull helmet. The rest are all Spartan III

Actually, I think the only Spartan II is Jorge, the heavy weapons specialist. The guy with the skull helmet is a Spartan III, called Emile.

jaden101
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Will Halo Sales Reach surpass Grenade Grenade Grenade: Grenade Grenade 2? Possibly.


laughing And the award for post of the day goes to....

Someone else.

Funny though.

zeroking24
Nothing can surpass Halo:Reach. you can do so much on it its so amazing that you can fly and assainate people its soo kool

Darth Vicious
I dont know about that. A lot of people seemed ton have switched from H3 to MW2. I still love H3 but now mostly play MW2. I play H3 once or twice every few weeks now. Maybe Ill go back once the beta comes out.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by zeroking24
Nothing can surpass Halo:Reach. you can do so much on it its so amazing that you can fly and assainate people its soo kool

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l135/Ironmallet/725716.gif

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I dont know about that. A lot of people seemed ton have switched from H3 to MW2. I still love H3 but now mostly play MW2. I play H3 once or twice every few weeks now. Maybe Ill go back once the beta comes out.

Halo and modern warfare have been at each other's throat for a years now. Of course lots of gamers switched to Modern Wardare 2. It is the new kid on the block. Expect a lot of gamers returning to halo when Halo Reach is released. Hell that will take too long. Lots of people will go nuts over the beta.

I read an article that said that a lot of MW2 gamers have jumped to Battlefield Bad Company 2 bandwagon.

Then when MW3 comes around they will jump again and will most likely stay there since Bungie won't be making anymore Halo games. I know M$ will keep the franchise alive, but without Bungie its gonna be "meh."

Spartan005
Originally posted by zeroking24
Nothing can surpass Halo:Reach. you can do so much on it its so amazing that you can fly and assainate people its soo kool

sooo.... you're saying you like it?

Ms.Marvel
i wouldnt be surprised if MW2 is near empty of players by mid 2010-2011. the game is absolute garbage compared to its predecessor.

AsbestosFlaygon
TBH, I switched back from MW2 to CS 1.6..
There's not as many MW2 competitions in my area as CS.

zeroking24
Originally posted by Spartan005
sooo.... you're saying you like it?

ya halo is like my favorite game since mario 64

ArtificialGlory
Being exclusive to one console is probably going to prevent it from surpassing MW2. Halo is kinda shit, anyway.

Ms.Marvel
shut up =(

Zack Fair
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Being exclusive to one console is probably going to prevent it from surpassing MW2. Halo is kinda shit, anyway.

No u.

Darth Vicious
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Being exclusive to one console is probably going to prevent it from surpassing MW2. Halo is kinda shit, anyway.

Good point there. I wonder how good in sales MW2 wouldve done if it had been one console exclusive.

Warden
Halo series is overated
anyway butill try this out. Oh and lol at ms marvel

zeroking24
Originally posted by Warden
Halo series is overated
anyway butill try this out. Oh and lol at ms marvel

Dude have ever the books there so good your an ass if you don't like halo series. the game is so good i cant get enogh im like right there in the game. i may not be good at it but it still is awsome

§P0oONY
Originally posted by zeroking24
Dude have ever the books there so good your an ass if you don't like halo series. the game is so good i cant get enogh im like right there in the game. i may not be good at it but it still is awsome The books are so good?

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They're not even good by Sci-fi standards, I must have been about 15 when I read a couple and even then I knew they were nothing to write home about.

As for the games, the 1st one was a breathe of fresh air, the second seemed to ignore it's campaign and focus on multiplayer. The 3rd was a little better than the 2nd in terms of campaign but nothing amazing. I can't abide a series that neglects all features but online multiplayer. MW games have a solid campaign, which if you're like me and find nothing at all intersting about playing online is still worth owning.

Halo titles are worth a rent in my mind, nothing more.

zeroking24

§P0oONY
Originally posted by zeroking24
well then u have no tast in Sci-Fi or halo books they are awsome plus the first game iv never played the second's campain was fun and i liked the wepons alot better then the third game the third game's campain is fun and has good maps and graphics ...shush

Ms.Marvel

zeroking24
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
what makes you think so? im a very picky science fiction reader but the fall of reach is one of the better sci fi novels ive read.

a lot of them are shit though.


well there still relly good if u want to know the story of halo and what happends in it but ya fall of reach is awsome

Zack Fair
Reach is looking great. Cannot wait to get my hands on the beta. Kindda sucks how 2 of my main multiplayer passions(Halo/SF) will be released 1 week from each other.

Warden
Originally posted by zeroking24
Dude have ever the books there so good your an ass if you don't like halo series. the game is so good i cant get enogh im like right there in the game. i may not be good at it but it still is awsome What an idiot.

FistOfThe North
well Halo 3 (the best selling xbox 360 game) sold more units than mw2 did by almost a million units.

reach will do really good. and it'll most likely surpass mw2 in sales and on xbox live because, and imo, reach will be the 1st true next gen halo. reach is what halo 3 should've been figuratively speaking and i wouldn't be surprised if reach even surpassed halo 3. the way things are looking, more and more i'm starting to see that it might be a reality.

The thread should've been entitled will reach surpass halo 3 because that's the real question.

§P0oONY
MW2 outsold Halo 3.

FistOfThe North
not on the 360.

Ms.Marvel
mw2 has only been out for 6 months, unless youre referring to a different frame point of sales

§P0oONY
But MW2 wasn't released exclusively on the 360. Believe it or not people with more than one system exist and they are not always going to buy the 360 version. Halo 3 out selling MW2 on the 360 was due to it's lack of exclusivity.

Zack Fair
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zeroking24
Originally posted by Warden
What an idiot.

Dude i am a halo fan so go screw your self

§P0oONY
Originally posted by zeroking24
Dude i am a halo fan so go screw your self You're an idiotic Halo fan though. Both being an idiot and being a halo fan are not mutually exclusive.

Zack Fair
Funny.

SaTsuJiN
Story Wise... MW2 was so friggin retarded.. Reach will most definitely have it beat.. even if all they did was play a random Bollywood flick after you press A

multiplayer wise at the moment.. MW2 has it by far.. I dont know what bungie has in store.. but much of the flaws of the halo games are still freshly in tact.. much like a pamper with a huge turd in it that doesnt want to go away

zeroking24

Warden
I doubt you do.

Warden
I found MW2 story pretty cool the mp that bores me.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by zeroking24
well at least i have a ****in life u ass mad Happy Dance

That was one hell of a comeback. Props.

FistOfThe North
mw2 seems to play like an arcade shooting gallery game but because it is like that hits were more precise and gameplay is faster, reactionary, more realistic. where with halo you fell imersed in the action.

Halo's more strategy while mw2's more tactical.

they both have their pros.

one of the many cons are obvious ai tendencies if you're playing single player mode and just about all the bs that happens with online mp with the 2 games.

and forget mw2. bf.bc2's where it's at. hard.

i'm waiting for battlefield 3. and no war game tops bf2, to me. not even mw2. (online)

zeroking24
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
That was one hell of a comeback. Props.

well it wasnt as good as your mom last night in bed!!!!! laughing eek! laughing

Warden
Dude you sounded like a retarded 10 year old.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by zeroking24
well it wasnt as good as your mom last night in bed!!!!! laughing eek! laughing

Keep them coming. Your immaculate wit is starting to put Shakespeare to shame.

FistOfThe North
he's unintelligent yet he's obviously getting everyone's attention so he must be doing something effectively. so much so that he's gotten a few people off topic.

who cares about his early-middle school disses. really. let's talk Reach/MW2.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
who cares about his early-middle school disses. really. let's talk Reach/MW2.

Like it's been already said, Reach might surpass MW2 on the Xb360, but not overall. That's my take on it.

FistOfThe North
iknow this is an unlikely scenario but what if reach went multiplatform just like MW2 did. Reach would rock it.

Zack Fair
Agreed. THe hype alone would kill MW lol

Ridley_Prime
Thankfully.

zeroking24
i played the halo reach beta and it has to tweeked a bit but overall the grapics are awsome im not all up for the battle rifle but the pistle kicks ass if it would have a bigger ammo clips

SaTsuJiN
well.. you can scope with it.. if they gave it a bigger clip that would be retarded as hell

also I dont get the whole MW2 hate parade going on.. is it the popular thing to do?

zeroking24
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
well.. you can scope with it.. if they gave it a bigger clip that would be retarded as hell

also I dont get the whole MW2 hate parade going on.. is it the popular thing to do?


i think that the clip size is way too small for me beacuse if your up close battle you run out of ammo and have to reload all the time. the fight between MW2 and REACH is common for people that like one and not so much the other.

Ms.Marvel
well the pistol isnt a primary weapon anyway. it has a low clip because youre supposed to either whip it out to finish off your opponent once you've whittled his health down with your primary weapon, or if youre really skilled, you can kill someone with one clip. it only takes four shots to kill someone if yo aim for the head, and it has 8 shots total. so you can miss up to 50% of your shots and still kill someone before you have to reload. thats very forgiving.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
well.. you can scope with it.. if they gave it a bigger clip that would be retarded as hell

also I dont get the whole MW2 hate parade going on.. is it the popular thing to do?

I think all the weapons new bigger clips or at least more ammo. As it stands it is almost impossible to finish a kill.

I think people are sick of MW2 and all of its glitches.

Ms.Marvel
i think that for the most part instead of a bigger clip they need to just give people less health/shields. from a storyline aspect the spartan-III's are all weaker and less durable than II's anyway, so it shouldnt take an almost identical amount of shots to kill a III.

though for certain weapons it is ridiculous... no assault type of weapon should have less than 20-25 shots in a magazine.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
i think that for the most part instead of a bigger clip they need to just give people less health/shields. from a storyline aspect the spartan-III's are all weaker and less durable than II's anyway, so it shouldnt take an almost identical amount of shots to kill a III.

tough for certain weapons it is ridiculous... no assault type of weapon should have less than 20-25 shots in a magazine.

I hate how Spartan IIIs walk slower than frickin ODSTs when carrying a turret. Makes no fkn sense. And I hate just how the game becomes even slower.

I dunno. I was originally excited with the beta but right now I don't give a shit. Its almost like Bungie wants to make the game fit their crappy shooting skills by making every single shootout last an eternity with crappy guns and overpowered nades.

Say what you want about MW2 at least it is almost always intense in MW2. Even if killstreaks kill any competitive edge the game may have.

Ms.Marvel
i think the concept of slowing down with the turret at all is kind of ridiculous. the guns only weigh a hundred pounds or so max. you should only move slowly if youre firing it while moving imo

EDIT- i agree with you about the game being slow. it seems like everything in the game is slow. you respwn slow, god help you if you die in invasion as the covenent, you run slow, takes forever to kill people. they even slowed down the vehicles it seems like.

its hard to go back to halo after how fast paced MW is, yeah.

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
need to just give people less health/shields. from a storyline aspect the spartan-III's are all weaker and less durable than II's anyway, so it shouldnt take an almost identical amount of shots to kill a III.

though for certain weapons it is ridiculous... no assault type of weapon should have less than 20-25 shots in a magazine.

quoted for truuuuf..

and on a side note.. as soon as you have no cover.. no amount of strafing is going to save your ass, despite the assload of health and shield you have, cuz the combination of the aim-assist they have going on (which is prevalent in all the halo games) with the long ass clips these dumb ass guns have, and you quickly find yourself waiting to respawn..

the only question I really have after all this time.. is why the hell cant we do the shit in the games that they can supposedly do in the books?.. people can do plenty of insane shit in fighting games, and they think we cant handle some crazy moves in an FPS?.. c'mon

zeroking24
i dont like the battle rifle much in beta becuse it only shoots one bullet at a time and it sucks and its just like the pistle

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