masturbating and god

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myinnerself
well have you been told not to masturbate because its a sin to do that and did you stop doing it LOL so what was said about masturbating to you. eek!

Wild Shadow
that it is a sin to spill ur seed on the ground and it is better to spill ur seed inside a whore.....

embarrasment

Symmetric Chaos
No one who really believes in God would masturbate in the first place, having an audience is just too awkward.

Autokrat
Before I became an athiest, I always used to wonder about that...

AsbestosFlaygon
I don't really remember anything in the Bible prohibiting masturbation.

Wild Shadow
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I don't really remember anything in the Bible prohibiting masturbation.

reread it.... gawd killed i mean smote a dude for spilling his seed upon the ground..... when he was ordered to hump his dead brothers wife... wink

the guy didnt want to but he had to and b/c he didnt want to get her pregnant he pulled out......

this better to spill ones seed within a "whore" then let it be spilled upon the ground" :P

WhiskeyGirl
I was told as a 13 year old girl that it was a sin. It was disgusting, vile, and you would be shamed forever.

A month later I walked into the pastor's study and saw him doing it...no expression

Ordo
Actually, its shocking the number of teens I see who really do think their junk will fall off if they masterbate.

I try to point out that it hasn't happened yet.

Seeing patients is wierd...

AsbestosFlaygon
Well, if Jesus masturbated, then it really isn't a sin.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Well, if Jesus masturbated, then it really isn't a sin.

Paul 2:21 - And so in the time that Nabkaz was in Administrator in Syria Jesus instructed his apostles, saying to them: "Lets face it, we should have founded a sex cult. I suggest a jerk circle to pass the time."

myinnerself
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I don't really remember anything in the Bible prohibiting masturbation. [/QUOTE
in the old testament it says not to spill your seed on the ground so don't waste it shooting it every were except for a woman. Happy Dance

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by myinnerself
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
I don't really remember anything in the Bible prohibiting masturbation.

Well, use a tissue.

Sabu935
Originally posted by WhiskeyGirl
I was told as a 13 year old girl that it was a sin. It was disgusting, vile, and you would be shamed forever.

A month later I walked into the pastor's study and saw him doing it...no expression
Woah...Lot of Hypocrites in the world,eh?

Shakyamunison
Also, sperm is not seed. A true analogy of sperm would be pollen. A human seed would be a fertilized egg. Therefore, this verse has more to do with abortion then masturbation.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Also, sperm is not seed. A true analogy of sperm would be pollen. A human seed would be a fertilized egg. Therefore, this verse has more to do with abortion then masturbation.

Both semen and sperm come from words meaning seed. Also, I don't think Mr. Onan could have had an abortions under any circumstances.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Both semen and sperm come from words meaning seed. Also, I don't think Mr. Onan could have had an abortions under any circumstances.

No! The King James version of the bible was written by god. We have to take it absolutely literal or we are doing the work of satan. stick out tongue

Darth Jello
It would be interesting to compare the rates of phimosis among Christians compared to other religions (Muslims and Jews are exempted of course since most are physically incapable of getting it.)

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Darth Jello
It would be interesting to compare the rates of phimosis among Christians compared to other religions (Muslims and Jews are exempted of course since most are physically incapable of getting it.)

That sounds like your kind of project. Post the results when you get them.

WickedDynamite
If I remember the story well...masturbating is not a sin...it was a person from the old testament who was told not waste his seed or be condemn...he disobey and commited sin...flash forward to the 2010 and all the 13 year old with computer online go GOGOGOLOLOLOLOL!!!! and stuff.

Thank you, I will now take the Nobel Peace Prize.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
...Thank you, I will now take the Nobel Peace Prize.

Your not liberal enough... stick out tongue

WickedDynamite
Liberal! Heavens sake No!


I'm Indie....wink

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Liberal! Heavens sake No!


I'm Indie....wink

No prize for you!

Digi
Guys, guys. God is all about masturbation.


http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2709/dino26et8.jpg

Truth.

yes

WickedDynamite
I remember those comic strips. lol

Mindship
God? Masturbation?

Hellooo... Big Bang...

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Mindship
God? Masturbation?

Hellooo... Big Bang...

eek! laughing

We are all just god sperm.

lord xyz
I don't believe anyone hasn't masturbated in their life.

And thinking about it, wouldn't banning masturbation increase the likelihood of rapists?

WhiskeyGirl
Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't believe anyone hasn't masturbated in their life.


I agree. Anyone who is over the age of 12 has likely masturbated and anyone who says they haven't because it's "unholy" is full of shit.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by lord xyz
And thinking about it, wouldn't banning masturbation increase the likelihood of rapists?

No. It would just decrease the number of people masturbating in semi-public areas.

rader
Am I the only one curious about JIA's opinion?

Deja~vu
Originally posted by Digi
Guys, guys. God is all about masturbation.


http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2709/dino26et8.jpg

Truth.

yes

The big "O"????? eek!

Digi
Originally posted by rader
Am I the only one curious about JIA's opinion?

yup

Mindset
Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't believe anyone hasn't masturbated in their life.

And thinking about it, wouldn't banning masturbation increase the likelihood of rapists? erm

Moscow
Think about this: if there is a God over all of us, think about how many times this being has watched all of us masturbate. There must be innumerable instances where He's seen us do our pleasurable activity.

God is a pervert.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Moscow
Think about this: if there is a God over all of us, think about how many times this being has watched all of us masturbate. There must be innumerable instances where He's seen us do our pleasurable activity.

God is a pervert.

Simply don't believe in Christian mylogy in the first place.

Moscow
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Simply don't believe in Christian mylogy in the first place.

Indeed, that's very true. Yet, I find it a fascinating question to ponder anyway, seeing as how I hold out the fact that the ideas found in Christianity might be true-- since I cannot prove that they are.

Mindset
Shakyamunison is just mad because he knows god watches him jack it to gay porn.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Moscow
Think about this: if there is a God over all of us, think about how many times this being has watched all of us masturbate. There must be innumerable instances where He's seen us do our pleasurable activity.

God is a pervert.

Let's apply silly-gism!

God watches us masturbate.
All things that God does are good.
Watching people masturbate is good!

Mindset
Was there ever any doubt?

Robtard
Originally posted by Moscow
Think about this: if there is a God over all of us, think about how many times this being has watched all of us masturbate. There must be innumerable instances where He's seen us do our pleasurable activity.

God is a pervert.

If ghost do exist, your grandparents or great grandparents have watched you slapping your meatshaft.

Moscow
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Let's apply silly-gism!

God watches us masturbate.
All things that God does are good.
Watching people masturbate is good!

Sarcasm aside, God is a pervert and perverts have weird senses of what "good" is.


Originally posted by Robtard
If ghost do exist, your grandparents or great grandparents have watched you slapping your meatshaft.

Time to put on a show Happy Dance

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Moscow
Indeed, that's very true. Yet, I find it a fascinating question to ponder anyway, seeing as how I hold out the fact that the ideas found in Christianity might be true-- since I cannot prove that they are.

That is were we are different. I have disproved Christianity to my satisfaction, and you are trying to prove it.

Moscow
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is were we are different. I have disproved Christianity to my satisfaction, and you are trying to prove it.

No. I'm not trying to prove it, actually. The whole "Jesus Christ is the Lord and son of God" thing is not to my liking. However, I am open to the possibility that it is the truth, just as I am open to the possibility that other religions on this earth are the truth. Just as the idea that no God, multiple Gods, or one God is the truth.

I don't buy Christianity. If that is the end result, God and Jesus will know exactly where my stance is, and they will know that I will not accept changing it.

You and I more alike than anything else. I, however, have not studied Buddhism very much, although I am quite curious about it.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Moscow
No. I'm not trying to prove it, actually. The whole "Jesus Christ is the Lord and son of God" thing is not to my liking. However, I am open to the possibility that it is the truth, just as I am open to the possibility that other religions on this earth are the truth. Just as the idea that no God, multiple Gods, or one God is the truth.

I don't buy Christianity. If that is the end result, God and Jesus will know exactly where my stance is, and they will know that I will not accept changing it.

You and I more alike than anything else. I, however, have not studied Buddhism very much, although I am quite curious about it.

However, the fact that you are open to them (Christianity) possibly being true means that you have not proved them to be false. Unless you are actively trying to disprove something, then, in worst case, you are passively trying to prove something.

Moscow
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, the fact that you are open to them (Christianity) possibly being true means that you have not proved them to be false. Unless you are actively trying to disprove something, then, in worst case, you are passively trying to prove something.

Whether passively or actively, I cannot in anyway prove or disprove them. Religion is a belief system not a fact system. There is no way of me knowing if any of it is true or false. I thought originally that after I die on this earth I would find an answer. Now, however, I thinking that that might not be true either

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Moscow
Whether passively or actively, I cannot in anyway prove or disprove them. Religion is a belief system not a fact system. There is no way of me knowing if any of it is true or false. I thought originally that after I die on this earth I would find an answer. Now, however, I thinking that that might not be true either

Yes, but that is why I originally said, "disproved Christianity to my satisfaction". The truth is that you cannot prove anything, but only disprove something, and you have to classify that.

Moscow
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, but that is why I originally said, "disproved Christianity to my satisfaction". The truth is that you cannot prove anything, but only disprove something, and you have to classify that.

Okay... but how can you disprove a belief? You can say "I don't believe it". You cannot say "I know it to be untrue"

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Moscow
Okay... but how can you disprove a belief? You can say "I don't believe it". You cannot say "I know it to be untrue"

See Galileo Galilei

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Galileo.arp.300pix.jpg

There was a time when a belief that the Earth was at the center of the universe was prevalent. Galileo used a new invention to prove that the sun was at the center, and the Earth went around it. Short of being Galileo with a telescope, you can do the same thing personally. Like for example, you can take classes in geology and look at the information that shows that the Earth is not 6,000 years old, but more like 4.5 billion. Therefore, you can come to a point were you say that one thing is more likely then another.

Moscow
I can see where you going from that. Christianity doesn't necessarily have a set date in time. Most people I know of that call themselves Christians do not believe the earth is 6000 years old. Geology and anthropology can solve that little conundrum.

Galileo was the s**t to be sure. When it comes to Gods though, it's not quite that easy to prove or disprove as is figuring out the Earth revolves around the Sun.

Shakyamunison

Moscow

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Moscow
That's as logical as humans can get, which can be taken illogically if you take it piece by piece. When one discusses the afterlife and what it entails, no one can be sure of what awaits them. You can ask yourself "why" or "how" or "what" as much as you want, but it will give you no definitive answer.

You have to except one thing as fact: there is no such thing as supernatural. However, there is quantum mechanics to keep in mind.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You have to except one thing as fact: there is no such thing as supernatural.

And actually, let's see if we can derive this conclusion

We only have ways of perceiving the natural world. Anything we perceive must be natural. The supernatural must then never leave any trace which is only possible if such entities are unable to interact with our world in any manner.

If follows then that proof of the supernatural is evidence that the supernatural is not supernatural. This makes supernatural phenomenon inherently paradoxical and thus non-existent.


However this is only evidence that the word is useless. It doesn't rule out entities traditionally considered supernatural, it merely limits them to the laws of physics. From that we can eliminate anything that would necessarily violate the laws of nature.


A dedicated believer might claim that these creatures can violate even logic. This claim can be dismissed on it's own merits, if logic does not hold then the argument that "logic doesn't work" cannot usefully be constructed.


This lets us dismiss certain things. Omniscience must be impossible because it requires either knowledge of things that the laws of physics tell us cannot be known or requires FTL transmittance of information which violates both physics and logic.


So we've demonstrated that if there is evidence for God he must be a natural entity. Because God must be a natural entity he must be subject to both logic and physical laws. Being subject to those laws means God cannot be omniscient.

Thus God cannot be spying on you while you masturbate!

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And actually, let's see if we can derive this conclusion

We only have ways of perceiving the natural world. Anything we perceive must be natural. The supernatural must then never leave any trace which is only possible if such entities are unable to interact with our world in any manner.

If follows then that proof of the supernatural is evidence that the supernatural is not supernatural. This makes supernatural phenomenon inherently paradoxical and thus non-existent.


However this is only evidence that the word is useless. It doesn't rule out entities traditionally considered supernatural, it merely limits them to the laws of physics. From that we can eliminate anything that would necessarily violate the laws of nature.


A dedicated believer might claim that these creatures can violate even logic. This claim can be dismissed on it's own merits, if logic does not hold then the argument that "logic doesn't work" cannot usefully be constructed.


This lets us dismiss certain things. Omniscience must be impossible because it requires either knowledge of things that the laws of physics tell us cannot be known or requires FTL transmittance of information which violates both physics and logic.


So we've demonstrated that if there is evidence for God he must be a natural entity. Because God must be a natural entity he must be subject to both logic and physical laws. Being subject to those laws means God cannot be omniscient.

Thus God cannot be spying on you while you masturbate!

And that is also why I am not an atheist. big grin

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And that is also why I am not an atheist. big grin

Because you're afraid of "da truth"?

inimalist
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thus God cannot be spying on you while you masturbate!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Bardock42
Knowing that God watches me is the only thing that gets me off nowadays...

inimalist
there is always Stickam

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because you're afraid of "da truth"?

No, because if you keep going with that logic you come to a more interesting place then god cannot see you masturbate. However, I have to admit that was a great punch line.

Moscow
I think I am starting to understand it now. It's always an interesting topic to talk about

Deja~vu
There was a book at the bookstore that I was glancing through and a question was asked that if you asked/told ghosts to stop looking at you when you were masturbating, would they stop looking? The answer was no.

ghost2

Mindship
I once thought I saw Inger Stevens.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Deja~vu
There was a book at the bookstore that I was glancing through and a question was asked that if you asked/told ghosts to stop looking at you when you were masturbating, would they stop looking? The answer was no.

ghost2

The answer is no, because they don't exist. wink

Wild Shadow
the answer is no b/c its the closest to sex they will ever get

Quiero Mota
I saw on the History Channel that some tantric Hindu sects believe that during the big bang, or "moment of creation", god experienced something equivelent to an orgasm.

So in some views, god shot his wad.

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