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Onslaught (Xavier, Magneto, Franklin, X-Man)

Both are at full power.

Who wins and why?

Hyperstorm. Onslaught beat on a bunch of heroes that aren't impressive for someone of his power.

Though hyperstorm has no feats. He did conquer his universe. That's more than Onslaught was able to do as he was stopped at Earth, even though he had the intention to conquer the universe.

BTW I read in one of the old hyperstorm issues that he is an amalgam of the Phoenix Force, Xavier, Magneto, and franklin richards' powers, but to a greater degree. Don't recall where though.

I find it funny how Rachel Grey, or Phoenix II defeated Galactus, but Hyperstorm lost. So much for him having the Phoenix Force powers. His powers are mostly having complete control over the four fundamental forces of the Universe and limitless hyperspace energy.

What if Onslaught absorbed Hyperstorm?

Originally posted by pinksushi1
I find it funny how Rachel Grey, or Phoenix II defeated Galactus, but Hyperstorm lost. So much for him having the Phoenix Force powers. His powers are mostly having complete control over the four fundamental forces of the Universe and limitless hyperspace energy.

What if Onslaught absorbed Hyperstorm?


Rachel defeated a starving Galactus though. And Galactus had recently learned of her purpose at that time, so he wouldn't absorb her now would he?
and Onslaught wins this IMO.

Hyperstorm.

Hyperstorm wins. With full use of Franklin Richards powers Onslaught puts up quite a fight but still looses.

Galactus > Hyperstorm > Onslaught > Dark Phoenix > Odin > Thanos

Originally posted by shokosugi
Galactus > Hyperstorm > Onslaught > Dark Phoenix > Odin > Thanos
Galactus > Hyperstorm > Onslaught > Dark Phoenix > Odin > Thanos > Superman

Originally posted by Warlord
Galactus > Hyperstorm > Onslaught > Dark Phoenix > Odin > Thanos > Superman

Dark Phoenix can defeat Onslaught. And Thanos should be able to defeat Onslaught. So, that ranking is slightly wrong.

MJJ is the only mutant who can beat hyperstorm

Originally posted by shokosugi
MJJ is the only mutant who can beat hyperstorm

Franklin stalemated Hyperstorm. I reckon that Jamie Braddock, or insane Scarlet Witch, Rachel Grey, Mr. M or Kid Omega could defeat Hyperstorm.

Maybe Proteus as well?

Definately not Proteus. Mr.M is doubtful too.

HoM Wanda>>Mad Jim Jaspers>Jamie Braddock>Phoenix>Frankie>>>>....>>others.

Jaspers has been stated to be an omniversal threat. Scarlet Witch can't get up to that level.

I thought Franklin was above Jamie Braddock.

Franklin should be above Phoenix as well.

What about Kid Omega? Kid Omega was a potential candidate for a host for the Phoenix Force.

Nope. Phoenix would murder a single celestial/Franklin.


HoM Wanda warped Galactus with ease. And Galactus was powerless against her. She sent the chaos waves throughout the omniverse.

Galactus/Phoenix could potentially defeat Jaspers. Using they're cosmic awareness they can send Jaspers to "un-space" thus making him unable to use his powers. But that is IF he gives them the time to do so.

You said that Phoenix is vulnerable to reality warping powers.

Franklin also re-created Galactus once.

Not according to Power Cosmic II; he/she said Jaspers can defeat White Phoenix of the Crown.

He can. and he will. But they can take wins over him.

See if Galactus or Phoenix use they're powers wisely, then they would know of MJJ's weakness...un-space.
How can he warp reality, when there is nothing to warp?

and the Franklin thing wasn't 616. and if you're referring to the Abraxas saga, then he drained all his power just RESSURECTING Galactus.

Galactus and Phoenix are forces of nature. Galactus is the power of cosmoes. And phoenix is *insert purpose here*.

um Franklin Richard no way

FR can warp reality. wut are Hypes reality warpin feats?

So BFR then.

and if this Ooslaught @ max potential (inc. FR power) then he warp the shit outa Hype. he can turn him into a dog or somethin lol

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
and if this Ooslaught @ max potential (inc. FR power) then he warp the shit outa Hype. he can turn him into a dog or somethin lol

Onslaught never had full control of Franklin's powers because Franklin was resisting Onslaught.

Considering the fact that Franklin stalemated Hyperstorm, this would be a nice match.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Onslaught never had full control of Franklin's powers because Franklin was resisting Onslaught.

Considering the fact that Franklin stalemated Hyperstorm, this would be a nice match. yeah but u said "full power" wich means Onslaugt get to tap into his full potential right?

Yes, but Onslaught never had full control of Franklin's power. I meant relative to just having Magneto's and Xavier's.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Nope. Phoenix would murder a single celestial/Franklin.


HoM Wanda warped Galactus with ease. And Galactus was powerless against her. She sent the chaos waves throughout the omniverse.

Galactus/Phoenix could potentially defeat Jaspers. Using they're cosmic awareness they can send Jaspers to "un-space" thus making him unable to use his powers. But that is IF he gives them the time to do so. Originally posted by galactusischere
He can. and he will. But they can take wins over him.

See if Galactus or Phoenix use they're powers wisely, then they would know of MJJ's weakness...un-space.
How can he warp reality, when there is nothing to warp?

and the Franklin thing wasn't 616. and if you're referring to the Abraxas saga, then he drained all his power just RESSURECTING Galactus.

Galactus and Phoenix are forces of nature. Galactus is the power of cosmoes. And phoenix is *insert purpose here*.

Under no circumstance can Galactus or the PF defeat Jim Jaspers.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Under no circumstance can Galactus or the PF defeat Jim Jaspers.

I know, but IF he gives them enough time to figure out his weakness. and with they're CA, they might take 1 out of 10.

Nah, only 1 being has ever been able to defeat Jim Jaspers, and that's the Fury. His ability to adapt to any threat, and figure out a way to defeat nearly any enemy gave him the edge against Jaspers.

So the un-space/cosmic awareness tactic wouldn't work? or he just wouldn't allow them to do it?

They'd have to enter into his warp to teleport him there, or fire a teleportation device into his warp at him. Being that he's God within his warp, methinks he'd be fully aware that someone was trying to mess with him.

The Fury could do it because he made himself mostly immune to Jaspers' warping.

Alright, thanks.

What if Onslaught absorbs Hyperstorm?

WOuld it be Hyperslaught?