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no weapons for either

a port kick to the head ftw....

I think after he does a few hits she'll get his pattern.

It depends on how Kurt fights, if the first thing he does is port her high up, he'll win. If he tries to do hit-and-port tactics, I think she'll take him down.

Lady Shiva is just lulzy with PIS sometimes and would probably take this in a comic fight.

Kurt should take it more often than not though.

Can he teleport her head off? I've never actually seen him do something like that, but maybe he has a moral restriction about it.

AoA Nightcrawler ported Deadpool's head off, and a favored tactic of his was ending fights via dismemberment. Although 616 wouldn't do that unless it was absolutely necessary or he was mind controlled. But I think he could take it with a port blitz.

If Wolverine can use his ninja skills and hide in plain view from Nighty, then I think Shiva can to. Wolverine played Kurt for a chump when they were training.

But this is a brawl, I doubt Shiva would be trying to hide from Kurt. And figuring out his pattern is hard, especially when he blitzes so fast he can hit you from multiple angles within a few seconds.

He can teleport her repeatedly until she passes out.

Originally posted by 753
He can teleport her repeatedly until she passes out.

Yea, it's a well known fact that the 1st time somebody ports with Kurt, they feel sick. And it takes a while to get tolerable, although you never really get used to it. Since she's never experienced it before, she'll pass out after a few good ones.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yea, it's a well known fact that the 1st time somebody ports with Kurt, they feel sick. And it takes a while to get tolerable, although you never really get used to it. Since she's never experienced it before, she'll pass out after a few good ones.

Even Batgod himself said he can't get used to teleportation


I think that is how Omega Red got knocked out, by the way.

It does make more sense that the actual teleportation 3 miles up knocked him out rather than fall. Since the guys taken full on hits from Colossus with no problems.

Colossus is a pussy.

You're a pussy.

Reported.

Enjoy your ban.

YOU F*CKING PUSSY!

oh wait...

Nightcrawler wins everytime, without PIS and CIS.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Nightcrawler wins everytime, without PIS and CIS.

He's still human-toughness and fighting someone with pretty freaking amazing speed and skill. It won't be that rarely that she nails him with a KO blow right when he ports in.

Originally posted by KingD19
It does make more sense that the actual teleportation 3 miles up knocked him out rather than fall. Since the guys taken full on hits from Colossus with no problems.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Q99
He's still human-toughness and fighting someone with pretty freaking amazing speed and skill. It won't be that rarely that she nails him with a KO blow right when he ports in.

Human-toughness? Fail. He's superhuman. He took a hit to the head from behind that could knock out a dozen men with no apparent ill-effects and bested that guy in battle

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Human-toughness? Fail. He's superhuman. He took a hit to the head from behind that could knock out a dozen men with no apparent ill-effects and bested that guy in battle

He's not supposed to have significant superhuman toughness though (are you sure he wasn't supposed to have rolled with it? Because otherwise... total PIS).

And he's still not tough enough to withstand Shiva in any case. She casually demolished Killer Croc, breaking several bones without him even noticing, and Croc definitely has more toughness than Kurt.

Kurt's durability is actually pretty high, check his respect thread. And he's also super quick fast, fast enough to keep up with her.

Oh, and Kurt would break several of Croc's bones, but he would know about it.

Originally posted by KingD19
Kurt's durability is actually pretty high, check his respect thread. And he's also super quick fast, fast enough to keep up with her.

Not so high she couldn't take him out if she got in the good shots.

And yea, I'm not saying he's not quick, I'm saying that inside Shiva's hand to hand range is dangerous even for someone like him, so she can get in some wins.

He got hit full force by Sebastian Shaw, after he absorbed hits from Colossus. Have you checked his durability feats?

Night Crawler on pannel has been stated with enhanced durability, so I dont know were anyone got that rubbish about him having human toughness, becuase it wrong.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Night Crawler on pannel has been stated with enhanced durability, so I dont know were anyone got that rubbish about him having human toughness, becuase it wrong. everyone in comics has enhanced durability to some degree

Originally posted by Starscream M
everyone in comics has enhanced durability to some degree
Not they don't and certainly it not stated on pannel.

Night crawler is superhuman in every single sense.

I think he means everyone compared to real world humans.

Originally posted by Mindset
I think he means everyone compared to real world humans.
I figured as much, but that pretty irrelevant since NC has enhanced durability for marvel humans.

Though this is mister starscream we are talking about, relevences does not apply to him.

Originally posted by Q99
He's not supposed to have significant superhuman toughness though (are you sure he wasn't supposed to have rolled with it? Because otherwise... total PIS).

And he's still not tough enough to withstand Shiva in any case. She casually demolished Killer Croc, breaking several bones without him even noticing, and Croc definitely has more toughness than Kurt.

No, he didn't roll with the blow. It was a sneak attack.

KC is a jobber.

With the use of his teleportation and fighting skills, Kurt ftw.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Night Crawler on pannel has been stated with enhanced durability, so I dont know were anyone got that rubbish about him having human toughness, becuase it wrong.

Is he tougher than Killer Croc, though? Because even that level of toughness was useless against Shiva's attacks.

Yes, he actually is tougher than KC. Bane took KC down, and Nightcrawler takes blows from people like Sebastian Shaw, charged up.