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Both at full power.

Shaman X-Man as of Dark X-Men.

Nate has too many ways to win.

War Hulk is empowered by Celestial Technology.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
War Hulk is empowered by Celestial Technology. I'm shocked.

Indeed. Especially since it overcame the Juggernaut's magical powers. I can see Shaman X-Man doing that. ....

Nate wins.

Care to explain why?

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Care to explain why?

No, he just wins...

Bricks just aren't the way to go against SNG. He takes this

nate could bfr him 10/10. even without, there is no proof war could resist nate's level of tp.

Really, there's nothing that War Hulk has done to make me believe he could even touch Nate Grey.

Hulk gets BFR'd over and over.

Celestial Technology overcame the Juggernaut's magical powers. Why won't they overcome Shaman X-Man's powers here?

Because Nate Grey and Juggernaut:

Don't have the same powers.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Because Nate Grey and Juggernaut:

Don't have the same powers.

nice . . .

LMAO. Obviously.

But the point is that if Juggernaut's magical powers can over come Shaman X-Man, and Celestial Technology overcame Juggernaut's magical powers, then logic should manifest itself in this battle.

That's ABC logic, if anything.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Celestial Technology overcame the Juggernaut's magical powers. Why won't they overcome Shaman X-Man's powers here? Screw your assumptions!

War Hulk never display any telepathic defenses.

Nate wins here.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That's ABC logic, if anything.

Sometimes it works.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
LMAO. Obviously.

But the point is that if Juggernaut's magical powers can over come Shaman X-Man, and Celestial Technology overcame Juggernaut's magical powers, then logic should manifest itself in this battle. What among Juggernaut's magical powers are overcoming Shaman X-Man's powers?

Anyways, that "logic" is actually completely illogical. Just because A > B and B > C doesn't mean A > C.

Drax killed Thanos. Thanos stalemated Odin. Drax can kill Odin?

Talk about random battles! At least Golem has the excuse of using dark characters nobody knows when he makes spite threads.

shaman ftw...

mindrape.. bfr.... dismantle on the atomic lvl ....

Originally posted by leonidas
nate could bfr him 10/10. even without, there is no proof war could resist nate's level of tp.
There's no proof Nate could resist War Hulk's level of thunderclap. biscuits

Nate wrecks Whulk, gift wraps him and leaves him at Apocalypse`s doorstep

Originally posted by pinksushi1
LMAO. Obviously.

But the point is that if Juggernaut's magical powers can over come Shaman X-Man, and Celestial Technology overcame Juggernaut's magical powers, then logic should manifest itself in this battle.

How would juggernaut overcome nate? What could he do to him? Have they ever fighted?

Nate wins.

I would really like to see fight between Nate and Sentry.

Nate turns Hulk into Banner then kills him.
Just like Ironman used nanites to turn SheHulk human.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I would really like to see fighte between Nate and Sentry.
Already happened.

Nate: "But Bob, we used to be friends"
Sentry: "Uh, ok" *Flies off for the self-bfr*

Originally posted by Mshinu
Nate: "But Bob, we used to be friends"
Sentry: "Uh, ok" *Flies off for the self-bfr*

Not really funny.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Not really funny.

I actually liked it.

http://s663.photobucket.com/albums/uu355/ankur29/?action=view&current=Dark_X-Men_03_0008.jpg

Voidtry vs Nate would be a great fight tho.

Shaman should win this.

I'm just curious about something. In AoA, Nate Grey as a child, overcame Sinister's psychic inhibitors, right? Hypothetically, couldn't he *possibly* even overcome The Juggernaught's helmet defense? I'm prolly wrong, but is this remotely possible?

Originally posted by rader
I'm just curious about something. In AoA, Nate Grey as a child, overcame Sinister's psychic inhibitors, right? Hypothetically, couldn't he *possibly* even overcome The Juggernaught's helmet defense? I'm prolly wrong, but is this remotely possible?

It wouldn`t be the first time Nate "breaks the rules" but my guess would be that he can`t.

Originally posted by rader
I'm just curious about something. In AoA, Nate Grey as a child, overcame Sinister's psychic inhibitors, right? Hypothetically, couldn't he *possibly* even overcome The Juggernaught's helmet defense? I'm prolly wrong, but is this remotely possible?

Probably can't get past the helmet, but it has been removed before, so using TK to take it off his head should still be feasible.

Telepathy's worked through the helmet before, iirc, although not to great effect. Never had a telepath as powerful as Nate try though.

Originally posted by 753
How would juggernaut overcome nate? What could he do to him? Have they ever fighted?

The Juggernaut's magical powers will overcome Shaman X-Man. There is nothing that Shaman X-Man can do to hurt the Juggernaut, if the Juggernaut has his magical force field up. However, they have never been tested against pure psionic energy.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
The Juggernaut's magical powers will overcome Shaman X-Man. There is nothing that Shaman X-Man can do to hurt the Juggernaut, if the Juggernaut has his magical force field up. However, they have never been tested against pure psionic energy.

Well, that is not so much overcoming as it withstanding. A lot of jugs fights end this way because he can survive anything thrown at him, but he can't actually do any harm to SNG either, so if BFR and TP are out of the picture it's a tie - unless you count dropping a mountain on juggs to slow him down. Still only SNG can incapacitate or BFR jugs not the other way arround so the edge is SNG's.

In an arena fight I'm confident he can take out the helmet and put him to sleep.

Magic should be able to overcome anything, including psionic energy, assuming that the magic is powerful enough.

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Magic should be able to overcome anything, including psionic energy, assuming that the magic is powerful enough.

A teleportation spell would have put WWH in another dimension.....but he would return at some point more angry than ever!
But Strange + any other Marvel character lost that ability this month when the god who empowered that spell cancelled it from the MU's plane.

Teleportation?

Originally posted by pinksushi1
Teleportation?

Teleportation + spell = teleportation spell

huh? grumpy

Originally posted by pinksushi1
That was an illusion. Jugg.s was sleeping in a cabin somewhere. They never fought. Juggernaut would have defeated him anyway, if he had his hlemet on.

http://kevinchiu.org/emote/facepalm.jpg

Juggy would crush PR Beyonder and HOM Wanda too right?