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The Man of Steel vs The Unstoppable Juggernaut & The FF worst enemy. Will the combined intelligence and strength of Dr. Doom & Juggernaut be enough to kill the Superman? 6 scenarios.
1. a no prep in Metropolis
2. a no prep in Castle Doom
3. a no prep on neutral ground
4. 24 hrs prep in Metropolis
5. 24 hrs prep in Caste Doom
6. 24 hrs prep on neutral ground

#2 and #6 is possible.

Supes loses in all of them.

IMO, Juggy doesn't bring much to the table given that Supes can BFR him here. That essentially makes this Doom/Supes for 6 scenarios.

That said, Clark wins scenarios 1-3, and Doom takes a slight majority in the other three (6/10 or so, maybe a stalemate).

Superman

Doom solos. uhuh

Superman isent brfing juggernaut lol
Team stomps, Doom could take a majority on his own.

I disagree. Superman is too fast. Superman can do a billions things before either moves an millimeter. He simply BFR's Juggs before Doom moves a micrometer then precedes to easily beat Doom before Doom even knows that the bell had just rung.

In a comic setting, Doom has a good chance of winning all of these. In a forum setting, his best chances lie in the Castle Doom and prep scenarios. I do agree that Juggernaut doesn't bring much to this when he can be removed from the battlefield.

Team

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Doom solos. uhuh In scenario 4,5,6 definately, I'll give Supes the sure victory in 1 and 3 not sure about 2 though

Dr. Doom is capable of magic that rivals Dr. Strange's, that He's done serious damage to entities like the Beyonder and Galactus with only moments of prep time, and He's created armor almost capable of going toe to toe with Extremis Iron Man armor. He could more than likely syphon the powers of the mystical gem of Cyttorak to make himself as indestrucible as the Juggernaut. So Juggernaut is useful here, but not as a combatant.

The last time I checked Thor had superhuman speed and reflexes and Juggernaut has always landed punches on him. Yet he can't hit Superman? Superman fanboys never cease to amaze me. The Juggernaut could and should win every fight against Superman if he uses all of his abilities. If Superman can use all of his abilities then The Juggernaut should be able to have his force field up. If this is the case Superman couldnt lay a hand on Juggs.

With Doom there they kill Superman with no problem

Wait and didnt people like Solomon Grundy who can't fly beat down Superman before? Wait let you make a excuse to why that happened.

Doom survived a blast from Thanos with the power gem and was still alive.With juggs on his side it's possible(without question)on scenerios #4,5,6 and possible 2 and still a pretty good chance on 1 and 3

Originally posted by rader
He's created armor almost capable of going toe to toe with Extremis Iron Man armor. Almost capable? lol

Originally posted by rader
Dr. Doom is capable of magic that rivals Dr. Strange's, that He's done serious damage to entities like the Beyonder and Galactus with only moments of prep time, and He's created armor almost capable of going toe to toe with Extremis Iron Man armor. He could more than likely syphon the powers of the mystical gem of Cyttorak to make himself as indestrucible as the Juggernaut. So Juggernaut is useful here, but not as a combatant.
Beyonder raped Doom.

Team win all of them, and it's spite in the 4, 5 and 6th match

The Beyonder lost his powers to Doom.

Originally posted by rader
The Beyonder lost his powers to Doom.
Who was the guy who fried Doom? I was pretty sure that was Beyonder. It was like for as much power as Doom stole, twice as much was returned until it was too much.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I was pretty sure that was Beyonder. It was like for as much power as Doom stole, twice as much was returned until it was too much. Huh?

If doom is still packing the power he was as winchan's apprentice, then he needs no prep at all. and SM is gonna suffer too.

Didn't you know? Millar's run is non-canon.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Who was the guy who fried Doom? I was pretty sure that was Beyonder. It was like for as much power as Doom stole, twice as much was returned until it was too much.
It shows doom saying stuff like "cringe b4 my might" and then it shows doom just totally collasp then the beyonder dissects him and somehow doom gains the beyonders power.Never explains how.

Originally posted by Survivor19
Didn't you know? Millar's run is non-canon.

No I didn't. How come?

Non canon?? Is that a retcon I didn't hear about?

So to the eat of your abilities but still in character are forum rules... And guess what superman doesn't speed blitz anyone to start

so bam doom pulls cyttoraks bands on him and it's game over

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It shows doom saying stuff like "cringe b4 my might" and then it shows doom just totally collasp then the beyonder dissects him and somehow doom gains the beyonders power.Never explains how.

It explains how.

Originally posted by Survivor19
Didn't you know? Millar's run is non-canon. The Masters of Doom arc and Millar's entire run is canon. Jonathan Hickman's current run had some of the FF visit Nu-World and they are currently also visiting the corpse of that alternate Galactus which they drained/killed in that storyline too. How Hickman addresses Doom's upgrade is a mystery, but Doom apparently is a huge piece of Hickman's run when you consider future Franklin's visit of Valeria.

Originally posted by K Von Doom
It explains how.
Where...I read all 12 comics in 3 days and i don't remember reading that at all.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Secret Wars. Nuff said. Doom's most widely read feat, which elevated Doom to a whole other level. Within this story-arc, Doom manages to subdue Galactus and defeat the most powerful entity written by Marvel. If you haven't read it, you are not a comics fan:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Doom%20Fights/DoomvsBeyonder01SW9.jpg
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Originally posted by OneDumbG0

It does no where explain how doom wins.Beyonder dissects doom and then somehow doom defeats him.

^ . . . . he drains his power using the energy absorption module he built into his breastplate. He had analyzed Beyonder's energies before when he was blasted by him. He had to get within arm's length of the Beyonder for it to work though. That's all explained on the seventh scan. He reaches out to the breastplate to activate it when he's being dissected. That's how he beat Beyonder.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ . . . . he drains his power using the energy absorption module he built into his breastplate. He had analyzed Beyonder's energies before when he was blasted by him. He had to get within arm's length of the Beyonder for it to work though. That's all explained on the seventh scan. He reaches out to the breastplate to activate it when he's being dissected. That's how he beat Beyonder.
I checked the links and didn't see that plus you say it was in his armor and he had no armor when the beyonder was dissecting him.

^ Look a little bit more closely at the seventh link. The top right set of panels reveals Doom's plan. You're right that when he was being dissected, his armor wasn't on. But his breastplate was floating an arm's length away from him and that's why he struggles against death to reach it in order to activate the energy absorption module.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Look a little bit more closely at the seventh link. The top right set of panels reveals Doom's plan. You're right that when he was being dissected, his armor wasn't on. But his breastplate was floating an arm's length away from him and that's why he struggles against death to reach it in order to activate the energy absorption module. NOW i see it.I never understood how doom stole the beyonders power and now i know.Thank you for explaining this to me.

Superman bfrs Juggernaut and Doom. Without Bfr, Juggernaut solos.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman bfrs Juggernaut and Doom. Without Bfr, Juggernaut solos. How will he bfr Doom?

Originally posted by Mindset
How will he bfr Doom?

Fly up to doom and throw him a couple of miles. BFR.

Superman is faster than Doom.

But doom can make his way back to battlefield very fast. And I don't think SM can just pick him up, unless he blitzes immediately, D's got force fields.

Originally posted by 753
But doom can make his way back to battlefield very fast. And I don't think SM can just pick him up, unless he blitzes immediately, D's got force fields.

That I agree with and I also think that Doom could beat Superman due to his magic but with Superman speed, I dont think Doom would get the chance to use anything to bring Superman down.

If the force field is up then (I know a lot of people is going to hate this) I could see Doom taking out Superman with that little magical attack that he used on Sentry.

So you agree that Doom can get back to that battlefield, but you think Supes wins by bfr?

Originally posted by Mindset
So you agree that Doom can get back to that battlefield, but you think Supes wins by bfr?

I think it depends on the type of bfr we are discussing. If Doom is hit without his shields up with a strong punch from Superman that is marked to knock him the hell out (but doesnt) and it sends him a couple of miles away...... I think it would take him some time to get himself back together and get back to the battle field which would result as being a BFR.

Originally posted by carver9
I think it would take him some time to get himself back together and get back to the battle field which would result as being a BFR. Oh, ok.

So a ko?

Originally posted by Mindset
Oh, ok.

So a ko?

No, not a ko, bfr. A disoriented bfr.

So he'll be disoriented for so long that he can't make it back to the battlefield?

Originally posted by Mindset
So he'll be disoriented for so long that he can't make it back to the battlefield?

LOL, OMG, you are making this very difficult.

That seems to be his shtick these days.

Well, either he's koed or he's making it back to the battlefield.

It's not like he's gonna be disoriented for enough time before being able to get back unless he is koed..