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Not including Tryant or the destroyer suit,who of galactus's heralds would win in an all out brawl.

Surfer.

Tyrant

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Tyrant Not including tyrant

Morg can take on every other herald by himself. Though the Fallen One did seem pretty powerful.

In a What If Thor became Galactus' herald. That was pretty sweet...

was gladiator really a herald before?

If Morg doesn't have the Water of Life, Surfer win

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
was gladiator really a herald before?
Not in any canon appearance.

Johnny Storm w/ Sue's powers + Power Cosmic for the win! (Yes, that was really a herald of Galactus).

Did anyone read the infinity crusade ish where slver surfer absorb a lot of energy and just becomes a huge buff red surfer?If he did that he might win.

Yeah, that was a really low showing for him. Almost overloaded himself just absorbing some energy from the sun, and even when he 'hulked out' he almost died destroying a moon.

Surfer wins. he's smarter than all the other heralds (not saying much, I know) and he tends to use the PC with greater finesse and imagination when he's fighting heralds (wonder why?).

How does Surfer win? Both Fallen One and Morg are >> to him.

In seriousness, it depends on everyone's motivation. As demonstrated by Surfer's first bout to with Morg, I think day to day Surfer would probably lose to Morg (I'm using classic Surfer, not the current powered up version because I don't know exactly where he ranks).

But as demonstrated by their SECOND battle, if Surfer gets serious -- if he's either angry, or something important is on the line - he's going to beat Morg. And none of the other heralds are really quite on his level. Certainly not the Airwalker Android, nor Nova. Firelord has given him a decent tussle a couple of times, but Surfer is at least marginally superior.

Originally posted by galactusischere
How does Surfer win? Both Fallen One and Morg are >> to him.

What did Fallen One actually accomplish that would put him as more powerful than the Surfer? Nothing, from what I saw.

And Morg was already beaten, single handidly, by the Surfer (assuming we're talking about when he JUST had the power cosmic, rather than the Waters of Life).

Red Shift is the most powerful herald in the history of comicdom, period.

All hail the awesomeness that is Red Shift.

Fallen One's too stupid, easily see Surfer siphoning off his PC and amping himself with it or using it to power a blast or something.

Morg isn't more powerful than current Surfer, imo ... I don't see any herald, bar Surfer, lasting as long as he did against T&A or even making a fight of it against a rogue Watcher (Surfer won, then healed that Watcher).

it seems to me Galactus has upped the Surfer's game a lot, since he returned to Galactus' side.

Morg without the WOL defeated Surfer.....
With them he would kill 5 Surfers. And Surfer declined Galactus' request to power him up, he only got a better mindset after big G's upgrade.

Surfer's always had the power, it was his mindset that needed fixing.

I'm pretty sure Morg would have been creamed by either UniLord or T&A.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Morg without the WOL defeated Surfer.....

When they first met, yes.

In their second confrontation, the Surfer defeated Morg definitively. A planet was destroyed in the process.



No, he got both. It's said right there in the narration, and the editor (Andy Schmidt) confirmed it at the time.

Originally posted by Desaad
When they first met, yes.

In their second confrontation, the Surfer defeated Morg definitively. A planet was destroyed in the process. Still Morg didn't have the WOL.





Im gonna take your word for it.

No one is arguing that Morg w/ WoL wouldn't win this. Just that, with everyone as heralds only, it looks like Surfer would win.

Surfer or Fallen One

Morg kills every other herald.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Morg kills every other herald.
Nah...

He nearly did it once, The only herald that wasn't there but would have mattered was the Fallen One. The rest of the heralds minus Surfer and FO aren't shit to him and he already has defeated SS.

Or Morg gets killed by the A-Wave again, and Surfer decimates way more people than I'm guessing killed Morg...

If we want to go down that road.

Originally posted by galactusischere
He nearly did it once, The only herald that wasn't there but would have mattered was the Fallen One. The rest of the heralds minus Surfer and FO aren't shit to him and he already has defeated SS.
Surfer's also beaten Morg...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer's also beaten Morg... SS lost the first time to Morg(without the WOL), but the second time he managed to barely defeat him, though Morg still didn't have the WOL.

Originally posted by Blanket
Or Morg gets killed by the A-Wave again, and Surfer decimates way more people than I'm guessing killed Morg...

If we want to go down that road.
Morg has walked through SS and a couple of other heralds with ease. Direct fight>Indirect comparison.

Originally posted by galactusischere
SS lost the first time to Morg(without the WOL), but the second time he managed to barely defeat him, though Morg still didn't have the WOL.
Yeah he lost before he knew the extent of Morg's power, and then won after he did(and their second fight was pretty decisively won by Norrin).

Originally posted by galactusischere
Morg has walked through SS and a couple of other heralds with ease. Direct fight>Indirect comparison.
Only with the WOL, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have that for the purposes of this thread.

Still Morg didn't have the WOL. Morg was as high as a high herald could get, even higher than Genis and WM Thor based on feats.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Still Morg didn't have the WOL. Morg was as high as a high herald could get, even higher than Genis and WM Thor based on feats.
What makes you think he has the WOL for the purposes of this thread?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Only with the WOL, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have that for the purposes of this thread. Without the WOL? then it would be between Fallen One or Surfer. I automaticaly assumed that Morg would be at his peak in this fight.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Without the WOL? then it would be between Fallen One or Surfer. I automaticaly assumed that Morg would be at his peak in this fight.
Peak doesn't mean "powered up". Otherwise we'd have to use something like Unilord Surfer or Surfer w/Loki's power.

And Surfer's feats pretty much blow Fallen One's out of the water...

I don't know where all this Fallen One respect comes from. His biggest feat was the destruction of the gas giant planet, and then getting owned by Thanos even easier than the Surfer has.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Peak doesn't mean "powered up". Alright.

The FO though had only one appearence(unless he has had a recent appearence that im not ware of), but Galactus spoke highly of him, and he did give Thanos a better fight than Surfer ever did IMO.

Originally posted by Desaad
I don't know where all this Fallen One respect comes from. His biggest feat was the destruction of the gas giant planet, and then getting owned by Thanos even easier than the Surfer has.
Well he WAS absorbing the life energies of entire planets in his attempts to starve Galactus, but yeah other than that and the stuff you listed we don't really have any info on the extent of his abilities.

Who would be the first to go in this battle?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Who would be the first to go in this battle?
Air Walker or Terrax...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Air Walker or Terrax...
Nova's also a possibility. Pretty much depends on who matches up with who right out of the gate.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nova's also a possibility. Pretty much depends on who matches up with who right out of the gate.
**** that. Surfer saves her because he wants to hit it.

In this fight it's not one on one.It's all against each other at the same time.

Originally posted by Enyalus
**** that. Surfer saves her because he wants to hit it.
Been there, done that...

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8428/silversurferv309623is8.jpg

Originally posted by galactusischere
Morg has walked through SS and a couple of other heralds with ease. Direct fight>Indirect comparison. Are you talking about the first fight where he fought two heralds, and then fought Surfer? Because he has never walked through Surfer and a couple other heralds before.

Right, and which is why in a direct fight, Surfer destroyed him.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Been there, done that...


Juggling Nova, Mantis, and Shalla at one point. What a pimp.

Originally posted by Enyalus


Juggling Nova, Mantis, and Shalla at one point. What a pimp. Then mantis died,and he gave up shalla,and he stoped loving once mantis died so he didn't do anything with nova.

He doesn't even have one, so how..?

Originally posted by galactusischere
He doesn't even have one, so how..? He can get rid of his silvery coating, and reveal cock.

Originally posted by Enyalus


Juggling Nova, Mantis, and Shalla at one point. What a pimp.
I was actually more impressed by Alicia Masters choosing him over the Thing. That's damn near like Lois ditching Supes...


Originally posted by galactusischere
He doesn't even have one, so how..?
Like this...

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6194/silversurferv3139p06yf6.jpg

Originally posted by Blanket
Are you talking about the first fight where he fought two heralds, and then fought Surfer? Because he has never walked through Surfer and a couple other heralds before.

Right, and which is why in a direct fight, Surfer destroyed him. He doesn't have the WOL here, but he was walking through Fire lord, Air-Walker, Terrax, Surfer, and Nova(who got killed). Though I can't remember exactly, did Nova and Surfer arrive later on to fight Morg?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I was actually more impressed by Alicia Masters choosing him over the Thing. That's damn near like Lois ditching Supes...



Like this...

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6194/silversurferv3139p06yf6.jpg PIMP.

Originally posted by galactusischere
He doesn't have the WOL here, but he was walking through Fire lord, Air-Walker, Terrax, Surfer, and Nova(who got killed). Though I can't remember exactly, did Nova and Surfer arrive later on to fight Morg? Surfer didn't even fight him.

Originally posted by Blanket
Surfer didn't even fight him. Im talking about the time where Surfer went to recruit every other avalible herald to do battle with Morg and then went to look after Terrax's axe. I can't remember if SS fought Morg, but it wouldn't have made a difference. All the other heralds>>>>>SS.

SS was also getting his ass kicked by Air-Walker and Terrax(without his axe), though he wasn't trying very much.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Im talking about the time where Surfer went to recruit every other avalible herald to do battle with Morg and then went to look after Terrax's axe. I can't remember if SS fought Morg, but it wouldn't have made a difference. All the other heralds>>>>>SS.

SS was also getting his ass kicked by Air-Walker and Terrax(without his axe), though he wasn't trying very much.
When was Surfer getting his ass kicked by AW and/or Terrax? His fight with AW ended in like a page with Airwalker being killed, and he's trounced Terrax consistantly since the two first locked up...

Originally posted by darthgoober
When was Surfer getting his ass kicked by AW and/or Terrax? His fight with AW ended in like a page with Airwalker being killed, and he's trounced Terrax consistantly since the two first locked up... No, he got his ass kicked by Terrax/AW in the same comic where he fought Morg or the one before that. Im 100% sure.

Originally posted by galactusischere
No, he got his ass kicked by Terrax/AW in the same comic where he fought Morg or the one before that. Im 100% sure.
Um... no, just no. That's all that can really be said, because what you're talking about didn't happen... ever. When Airwaker was ressurected and went nuts all he did to Surfer was blast the group of heralds who ressurected him(Surfer was part of the group though), and punch Surfer... once. Against Terrax, again Surfer got punched once. Niether of those constitutes him getting his ass kicked...

Don't get me wrong because both were otherwise good showings for AW and Terrax since they managed to put the beatdown on pretty much everyone else, but neither of them really did any damage to Surfer .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Um... no, just no. That's all that can really be said, because what you're talking about didn't happen... ever. When Airwaker was ressurected and went nuts all he did to Surfer was blast the group of heralds who ressurected him(Surfer was part of the group though), and punch Surfer... once. Against Terrax, again Surfer got punched once. Niether of those constitutes him getting his ass kicked...

Don't get me wrong because both were otherwise good showings for AW and Terrax since they managed to put the beatdown on pretty much everyone else, but neither of them really did any damage to Surfer . Yeah, I kinda went and double checked for myself, still the team had hard time putting down AW and Terrax.

In order IMO it would be like this..
Fallen One
Silver Surfer
Morg(without the WOL)
Stardust
Terrax
Fire Lord
Nova
Red Shift
Air-Walker

Originally posted by galactusischere
Yeah, I kinda went and double checked for myself, still the team had hard time putting down AW and Terrax.

In order IMO it would be like this..
Fallen One
Silver Surfer
Morg(without the WOL)
Stardust
Terrax
Fire Lord
Nova
Red Shift
Air-Walker
That's because they weren't TRYING to put AW and Terrax down. Well, maybe the rest of the team was in Terrax's case, but Surfer wanted their help against the amped Morg. Surfer ended the Terrax encounter with a single punch though when he got tired of messing around.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's because they weren't TRYING to put AW and Terrax down. Well, maybe the rest of the team was in Terrax's case, but Surfer wanted their help against the amped Morg. Surfer ended the Terrax encounter with a single punch though when he got tired of messing around. True, but the Terrax in that fight was majorly depowered.

Originally posted by galactusischere
True, but the Terrax in that fight was majorly depowered.
I never said he was at his standard strength, just that he's never kicked ass on the Surfer(quite the opposite is true in all their encounters in fact).

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1926/whatifworldwarhulk024.jpg

ftw

the costume is ghey as shit though

Surfer has almost been the best cannon herald.

Norrin wins.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1926/whatifworldwarhulk024.jpg

ftw

the costume is ghey as shit though Never heard of this guy before.Can you give some examples of his feats.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1926/whatifworldwarhulk024.jpg

ftw

the costume is ghey as shit though
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Herald Hulk would pawn all!

I mean can you like make scans of cool things he has done.

he has done nothing..that's a "what if" if i'm not mistaken..it ends with Hulk becoming a herald..that's it..

I think it goes like this:

M(after weird water)>SS>FO>SD>FL>T>N>AW>RS

FO lacks feats, and IMO he performed worse against Skreet, Thanos, Aegis and Tenebras than the SS

Current SS may be above Morg after the upgrade

bump

Originally posted by Slaanesh
he has done nothing..that's a "what if" if i'm not mistaken..it ends with Hulk becoming a herald..that's it..
he is " mightiest herald", according to Galactus, what more is necessary?

Herald Hulk pawns ...

if they explore that theme, I'd love to see a fight between Thanos and this Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77
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Herald Hulk would pawn all!

all except....The Kryptonian

Originally posted by Warlord
all except....The Kryptonian
nope, the Kryptonian is very much included... just that Herald Hulk is mightiest of all.

Herald SMASH!

If that scene was what ended it that is the worst what if comic EVER!It's called what if not this is what happens now we'll cut off b4 we show you anything about this guy.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Still Morg didn't have the WOL.
The WOL never left Morg after merging with it, however through the years this amount decreased via self usage, Tyrants absorption and his regeneration from the injuries received from the U. N. blast. All this is mentioned in the cosmic powers series, Annihilation # 3 or 5, and Morg's bio in Annihilation..

So technically in their 2nd fight Surfer beat a Morg with WOL..

Just an FYI.. lol

bump

Bump - age!!

Run into this scan of Morg's bio in Annihilation, proof his always had the WOL since he merge with it back in Herald Ordeal arc till his supposed death in Annihilation..

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5295/scan0002ie.th.jpg

Originally posted by Ambient
Bump - age!!

Run into this scan of Morg's bio in Annihilation, proof his always had the WOL since he merge with it back in Herald Ordeal arc till his supposed death in Annihilation..

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5295/scan0002ie.th.jpg
...That means Thanos one-shot Morg w/ WOL.

Yup!! Imagine that, another impressive feat for the titan..

Also Surfer owned a Morg w/ WOL..

Originally posted by Enyalus
...That means Thanos one-shot Morg w/ WOL.

I heart you

Im not buying it!!

Proof is on paper man..

Can you show some scans?

Its posted on page 4.

Readable but its kinda in small size..