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telepathic fight who wins.

Sometimes you make the most ridiculous threads.

Originally posted by Konton
Sometimes you make the most ridiculous threads. both powerful psychics how is it ridiculous ?

Oh, I don't know, maybe Jean's infinite energy reserves and cosmic level psychic abilities. Jean's ****ed Emma up with ease before.

Originally posted by Konton
Oh, I don't know, maybe Jean's infinite energy reserves and cosmic level psychic abilities. Jean's ****ed Emma up with ease before. so that makes the thread ridiculous ? hulk and juggernaut fought before many times and theres been hulk vs juggernaut threads does that make the thread ridiculous ?

Emma if Jean doesn't have Phoenix. If she does however...

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Emma if Phoenix doesn't have Phoenix. If she does however... no phoenix

That isn't even a remotely comparable match-up.

You are putting someone capable of stalemating Galactus against Emma, who while is impressive on her own level cannot hope to actually take wins here.

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Edit: Threads with Jean sans Phoenix do not work. Retcons state she has always been the Phoenix and it is a part of her. There aren't scans of her inbetween early X-Men and Phoenix's introduction to even consider forming a solid opinion on her power level.

Originally posted by Konton
That isn't even a remotely comparable match-up.

You are putting someone capable of stalemating Galactus against Emma, who while is impressive on her own level cannot hope to actually take wins here. jean grey vs emma frost.

not phoenix vs emma frost

Jean Grey IS Phoenix.

That's like saying Juggernaut sans Cyttorak vs Colossus.

Jean either way

Originally posted by Konton
Jean Grey IS Phoenix.

That's like saying Juggernaut sans Cyttorak vs Colossus. yes jean grey is phoenix but not always. in this fight its just regular old jean grey from the 60s before phoenix ever existed.

Then this is still spite, and consequently ridiculous.

Old school X-Men Jean was incapable.

However, you aren't taking comic continuity into account. Phoenix always existed and Jean's true mutation was being born as it's true host.

Originally posted by Konton
Then this is still spite, and consequently ridiculous.

Old school X-Men Jean was incapable.

However, you aren't taking comic continuity into account. Phoenix always existed and Jean's true mutation was being born as it's true host. phoenix came along afterwards into jean greys life. every time jean uses her powers to contact someone or move an object telepathically thats her every day mutant powers that she was born with. has nothing to do with phoenix.

If you ignore every comic written in the past 20 years, then yeah.

Originally posted by Konton
If you ignore every comic written in the past 20 years, then yeah. thats why i said this is jean grey from the 60s silver age jean

retcon retcon retcon

sigh... aside from ppl wanting to add the phoenix to every jean appearance since her inception and claim it as a retcon that must be adhered to and factored in, no it doesnt...argue

anyways jean has always bn a flake most of her career even without the phoenix her power lvl and skill lvl has always seem to be a roller-coaster ride..

60's jean is a stomp in emmas favor not much to argue for jean here..

her 80's 90's were more stable versions of jean but aside from somewhat better control of her powers her CIS always seems to be the problem.. fighting someone as ruthless as emma it would cost jean if she is trying to hold back and has some kind of emotional breakdown... i would still give emma the win over a non phoenix power jean..

i really cant stand jean she has very few high showings against a guy like Apocalypse fighting alongside her x team but she also has way too many low showings where she is being overpowered by sheer will from nobodies with no psi powers at all....