How many Xenomorphs can Doc Ock kill in combat?

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Darth Martin
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While his mechanical weapons are a good weapon against the Xenomorphs I doubt he could effectively fight more than three at once without being overwhelmed. How many do you feel he could take on in bloodlusted combat?

KingD19
3 or 4, anymore than that and his ass is grass.

Rogue Jedi
1,067.

Darth Martin
The Xenomorphs are considerably strong. They have been shown to tear down steel inch-thick doors in the films. Doc Ock wouldn't be able to see them sneaking up on him unless somehow his arms sensed them? How? Please don't ask.

I see a Xenomorph speed blitzing Ock.

Impediment
Xenos kill Doc quickly. Their blood would curdle his arms, and what blood didn't do damage to him and his arms the horde would overpower him.

Sadako of Girth
I agree with Impediment.

Molecular-acid blood shower from even just 1 Alien FTW.

And he gets a facehugger's tail round his neck, then he'll be drinking alien sex-wee.

Rogue Jedi
1.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Impediment
Xenos kill Doc quickly. Their blood would curdle his arms, and what blood didn't do damage to him and his arms the horde would overpower him.

QFT

KingD19
His arms were powerful enough to withstand a mini-sun, while I'm not sure if they're acid resistant, I'm sure they could stand up to it at least for a while.

Placidity
Originally posted by KingD19
His arms were powerful enough to withstand a mini-sun, while I'm not sure if they're acid resistant, I'm sure they could stand up to it at least for a while.

This.

However, if he gets acid blood on his persons then he obviously dies.

Depends on the situation, if the Xenos surround him 360 degrees it doesn't look good for him. If they are rushing him from the front, he could last quite a bit, assuming he knows about the acid blood and takes care in how he eliminates the Aliens. I could see him taking aliens out just with his spikes, or crushing body parts. I guess he could rip them apart too but that means more acid blood and also occupying more tentacles than he needs to.

Robtard
4, maybe more.

Depending how long his arms last. I'd guess that acid would eat through, so one kill per arm, then it's Ock sans arms against the Xenos.

NemeBro
Mini sun>>>>>>>Acid blood.

erm

They were strong enough to easily tear off a bank's vault door. They are strong enough to kill a Xenomorph easily and overpower them even more easily.

They are fast enough to pummel Spiderman, who has shown far greater speed feats than a Xenomorph.

Ten at least I would say.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Darth Martin
The Xenomorphs are considerably strong. They have been shown to tear down steel inch-thick doors in the films. Doc Ock wouldn't be able to see them sneaking up on him unless somehow his arms sensed them? How? Please don't ask.

I see a Xenomorph speed blitzing Ock.

They fought for him while he was blindfolded.

I don't think he would even need to draw blood to kill them, but he may have to eventually.

Robtard
This mini-sun shit isn't so cut and dry, as it would have killed the people who were standing 20-30 feet away. IIRC, Ock said the arms were designed to counter the mini-suns magnetic abilities. I don't think that thing puts out heat/pressure/radiation, like a sun would.

So it's likely the acid-blood would eat through those arms, maybe not instantly.

jinXed by JaNx
Yeah, i could see Ock staving off three, maybe four Xenomorphs before sustaining serious injuries. Although, i wouldn't be surprised if one was more than enough to kill him. Considering how much trouble he gave Spiderman, though, Doc Ock should never be underestimated.

I really don't think the Xenos blood would cause much concern to Ocks Arms, at least not for a while. I do think the acid would be strong enough to destroy the arms over time but the main concern for Ock would be keeping the acid off of his body. Those arms arms are more than strong enough to squash a Xeno with one solid hit but if they're hit in the head, Xenos explode into a wave of acid.

steverules_2
I was gonna say about the blood but...yeah

Impediment
Like the Xeno's did to escape imprisonment in Alien: Resurrection, they could kill a single Xeno so that the blood would injure Doc.

Darth Martin
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Considering how much trouble he gave Spiderman, though, Doc Ock should never be underestimated.

Those arms arms are more than strong enough to squash a Xeno with one solid hit but if they're hit in the head,

1.Agreed.
2.But the Xenomorphs are rediculously resistant to blunt force trauma as seen in AVP. Celtic through him around, through stone wall, and it seemed fine. Let's not forget that they're tails impaled a stone wall inches deep and there small mouth can puncture a hole in the Yautja's helmet.

steverules_2
Does anyone know what his arms are even made of? I think they're adamantium BUT...think thats the comics...dunno if acid can burn through that though. Preds do have acid resistant armour I think but not 100% sure.

Darth Martin
Adamantium is a rarity and usually he'll only have them for a story arc or couple issues. It's not a constant.

I think they're titanium in the comics.

steverules_2
I think they are in the movie as well actually, I remember him mentioning it when he was putting the arms on

Placidity
Originally posted by steverules_2
I think they are in the movie as well actually, I remember him mentioning it when he was putting the arms on

Nah it wouldn't be titanium, Ock said it was resistant to heat (mini-sun level) and magnetism.

Sadako of Girth
Ahhhh but does it have molecules..? ..if so, it could still be subject to this Alien molecular acid.

Placidity
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ahhhh but does it have molecules..? ..if so, it could still be subject to this Alien molecular acid.

Hmm... thats not how it works. Most acids are molecular... It depends on the strength on the acid.

Sadako of Girth
Then judging by what we saw in the 1st alien movie: Thats still some f***ing strong arsed acid. And if is sprays on the Doc himself, and thats quite likely indeed, whatever it touches is gone.

Placidity
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Then judging by what we saw in the 1st alien movie: Thats still some f***ing strong arsed acid. And if is sprays on the Doc himself, and thats quite likely indeed, whatever it touches is gone.

Yup, theres no debate if it gets on Ock that he is a goner.

However, if he knows about the blood, then there are ways he could dispose of them without much risk of getting sprayed.

Also some scenes in SM2 show that his tentacles can extend quite a distance which should keep him safe too.

Sadako of Girth
Those things leap fast and even if he plugs one on the way in, the momentum of the acid will likely carry on towards him.

How can Ock stop them coming in with speed and viciousness, whilst ensuring that he can not break the skin.

Also: We've seen the Aliens wound themselves, sacrifice themselves to use their blood for either offense or escape in the movies too.

And what about surprise facehugger attack or An alien queen...?
Her tail probably has the reach of the Doc's tentacles. and she has many ways off attacking.

steverules_2
There were no facehuggers/queens mentioned so...yeah

Sadako of Girth
Well they were: In the title. Be they FH, Warrior or Queen, they're still Xenomorphs, arent they? stick out tongue

Ms.Marvel
acid isnt doing the job against his tentacles. if the acid was as concentrated as people think it would have gone through hicks armor and his whole body... which it didnt. it melted his armor and severely burned his skin; theres also the scene in resurrection where the alien spits acid into the black guys face and all it does is cause super severe burns... it didnt melt his face off though. aside from that scene the only badass acid scenes weve seen is when it melts through the floors... which are what? each only an inch thick if that? octavius' tentecles are stated to be "nigh indestructible" or something akin to that and are designed to function in almost any environment... there is nothing logical that points to the acid taking any kind of toll on the tentacles.

that aside ock's tentacles act independently of his conscious, so it will be impossible fr him to be snuck up on, and they move fast enough to keep up with spiderman so no alien has a hope of getting in close enough to spray him anyway..

what really matters here the most is location... if hes just out in the open and is capable of being surrounded then he will be overwhelmed fairly quickly, though even in that situation he'll be able to kill at least 4 (one for each tentacle). if he can get himself into a sort of chokepoint where the aliens can only come one or two at a time then he can kill them forever until he dies of dehydration/starves... and even then his tentacles will continue to fight no expression

Darth Martin
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
octavius' tentecles are stated to be "nigh indestructible" or something akin to that Where?

Ms.Marvel
i dont know no expression

coulda sword he said it when he was describing them to his audience... havent seen the movie in years though.

Robtard
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
acid isnt doing the job against his tentacles. if the acid was as concentrated as people think it would have gone through hicks armor and his whole body... which it didnt. it melted his armor and severely burned his skin; theres also the scene in resurrection where the alien spits acid into the black guys face and all it does is cause super severe burns... it didnt melt his face off though. aside from that scene the only badass acid scenes weve seen is when it melts through the floors... which are what? each only an inch thick if that? octavius' tentecles are stated to be "nigh indestructible" or something akin to that and are designed to function in almost any environment... there is nothing logical that points to the acid taking any kind of toll on the tentacles.

that aside ock's tentacles act independently of his conscious, so it will be impossible fr him to be snuck up on, and they move fast enough to keep up with spiderman so no alien has a hope of getting in close enough to spray him anyway..

what really matters here the most is location... if hes just out in the open and is capable of being surrounded then he will be overwhelmed fairly quickly, though even in that situation he'll be able to kill at least 4 (one for each tentacle). if he can get himself into a sort of chokepoint where the aliens can only come one or two at a time then he can kill them forever until he dies of dehydration/starves... and even then his tentacles will continue to fight no expression

In Alien, a few drops melt through several decks (4, I think) of the ship. It's extremely powerful acid, at least in regards to human-made metals/alloys.

Rogue Jedi
And it melted through Marine armor right away.

steverules_2
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
acid isnt doing the job against his tentacles. if the acid was as concentrated as people think it would have gone through hicks armor and his whole body... which it didnt. it melted his armor and severely burned his skin; theres also the scene in resurrection where the alien spits acid into the black guys face and all it does is cause super severe burns... it didnt melt his face off though. aside from that scene the only badass acid scenes weve seen is when it melts through the floors... which are what? each only an inch thick if that? octavius' tentecles are stated to be "nigh indestructible" or something akin to that and are designed to function in almost any environment... there is nothing logical that points to the acid taking any kind of toll on the tentacles.

that aside ock's tentacles act independently of his conscious, so it will be impossible fr him to be snuck up on, and they move fast enough to keep up with spiderman so no alien has a hope of getting in close enough to spray him anyway..

what really matters here the most is location... if hes just out in the open and is capable of being surrounded then he will be overwhelmed fairly quickly, though even in that situation he'll be able to kill at least 4 (one for each tentacle). if he can get himself into a sort of chokepoint where the aliens can only come one or two at a time then he can kill them forever until he dies of dehydration/starves... and even then his tentacles will continue to fight no expression

Didn't his tenticles die along with him in spiderman 2? I think when he dies they die...

Rogue Jedi
Maybe he needed some tentacle viagra.

Ms.Marvel
Originally posted by steverules_2
Didn't his tenticles die along with him in spiderman 2? I think when he dies they die...

i know the lights went out in the water. i dunno. i know that at that point though he was controlling them himself so maybe he shut them off? or, maybe, youre right and they shut off when he dies.

that last one doesnt help my argument though so lets just say its wrong big grin

Ms.Marvel
Originally posted by Robtard
In Alien, a few drops melt through several decks (4, I think) of the ship. It's extremely powerful acid, at least in regards to human-made metals/alloys.

thats what i was referring too. i think it was 4 or 5 yeah... each deck was only like an inch or two thick though... most floors are. and im not too impressed with any of the metals found on the ships in the alien movies TBH... the humans get screwed multipel times because theyre worried about the metal on the ships and in the colony being punctured by bullets... dunno how tough that metal is.

Rogue Jedi
There was a scene in Aliens where Hudson saw where Xeno acid blood had burned through several thick ass decks.

Ms.Marvel
that big hole that he spit in?

Rogue Jedi
Mhm.

Sadako of Girth
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And it melted through Marine armor right away.

And the burns on Hick's armour weren't due to what you would call a soaking a soaking.

Like a little mist of spray caught his chest armour, which took the brunt, the acidsmoke also scarred his face up too.

Extremely powerful. Like others have said, it clear in in Alien, Aliens, Aliens Vs Predator 2, that that acid is very very potent.


You definitely wouldn't want any on your bollocks.

Placidity
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth


You definitely wouldn't want any on your bollocks.

What about for fat reduction?

Sadako of Girth
Hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... ...Maybe on patients who you have just caught sleeping with your wife. stick out tongue

Rogue Jedi
One thing I just thought of....

Xeno blood melted right through Marine armor.

BUT....When it splashed on Hudson's arm, it didn't melt his arm off.


Waddup with that?

Sadako of Girth
Another fine mist got him.

Unlike poor old Drake.

Rogue Jedi
Wait....you're right. I remember Drake being hit full force in the face, Hudson just a splash.

OK. But still, acid is acid, it covered his arm.

Ms.Marvel
also theres the acid blast right into the black guys face

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Darth Martin
1.Agreed.
2.But the Xenomorphs are rediculously resistant to blunt force trauma as seen in AVP. Celtic through him around, through stone wall, and it seemed fine. Let's not forget that they're tails impaled a stone wall inches deep and there small mouth can puncture a hole in the Yautja's helmet.

Yeah, but ocks' arms were able to climb up skyscrapers and crash through reinforced steel buildings like nothing. The power loaders' hydraulics system wasn't enough to burst queen Xenos head, but we're talking about, super hero shit here laughing out loud If we're going by the movie, the tentacles are made of adamantium. Those bad boys are indestructible. He could stomp through a Xeno nest all day long with those things and be unaffected if it weren't for his exposed body.

Darth Martin
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
If we're going by the movie, the tentacles are made of adamantium. erm

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