malovance vs executor?
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Scorpionov
malovance vs executor who would win?
takes place at Endor
Malovance & 3 CIS Providence Cruisers
VS
Executor & 3 Imperial Star destroyers
who do you think wins?
Lord Lucien
Executor solos. Its sheer bulk and armament would dominate. Giving it 3 extra ISDs is overkill.
Scorpionov
you forget that the malovance has 3 providences as well
and it has that prototype ion cannon to disable those ISD's and probably the executor
Lord Lucien
Perhaps, but that cannon has to be cleansed before it can be fired again. The Executor's shield withstood the collision and explosion of several ISDs exiting from hyperspace, with nary a scratch to be found. If its shielding can withstand that shot, the Executor solos.
NebarisTheGreat
Malevolence.
Sup guys?
Red Nemesis
I don't believe you are Neb
Scorpionov
ahh but this ion cannon is different its like an electromagnetic pulse it disables the shield & ship
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Scorpionov
ahh but this ion cannon is different its like an electromagnetic pulse it disables the shield & ship Of Clone Wars era Republic ships, yeah. I find it unlikely that the Empire's largest, most powerful state-of-the-art death ship with shields that withstand hyperspace-velocity impacts of three ISDs would be without some sort of protection from the previous war's ship-to-ship superweapons.
Scorpionov
But the empire only encountered that weapon once and it was destroyed i doubt the republic commanders went to salvage the wreckage to create a suitable counter for the weapon
Plus it is armed with 500 turbo laser batteries & 16 engines so i think it still stands a pretty good chance against the executor
crap i forgot this was the executors arments
Over 5,000 turbolaser batteries and ion cannons
2000 turbolaser batteries
2000 heavy turbolaser batteries
250 heavy ion cannons
500 point-defense laser cannons
250 heavy concussion missile batteries
40 Phylon Transport Q7 tractor beam projectors
so that ion pulse cannon on the maloevance could be a deciding factor
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Scorpionov
But the empire only encountered that weapon once and it was destroyed i doubt the republic commanders went to salvage the wreckage to create a suitable counter for the weapon
Plus it is armed with 500 turbo laser batteries & 16 engines so i think it still stands a pretty good chance against the executor
crap i forgot this was the executors arments
Over 5,000 turbolaser batteries and ion cannons
2000 turbolaser batteries
2000 heavy turbolaser batteries
250 heavy ion cannons
500 point-defense laser cannons
250 heavy concussion missile batteries
40 Phylon Transport Q7 tractor beam projectors
so that ion pulse cannon on the maloevance could be a deciding factor Exactly. Either that cannon takes them out, or the Executor solos. Either way this isn't much of a match.
Darth_Glentract
Executor easily defeats them. It seriously dominates whatever it comes across, ion canon or not.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Executor easily defeats them. It seriously dominates whatever it comes across, ion canon or not. Don't be so sure. The ion pulse cannons on the Malevolence take out multiple Republic capital ships per shot; it's area of effect is much larger than the Rebel ion cannon on Hoth.
If the pulse wave can penetrate the Executor's shielding, then the ship will be disabled. I for one doubt it can, but that's irrelevant.
Scorpionov
so it is settled the ion pulse cannon can mean the difference of defeat or victory for both sides
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Scorpionov
so it is settled the ion pulse cannon can mean the difference of defeat or victory for both sides It's the only thing going for the Malevolence and the Providences. Those three ISDs alone could take them out through conventional means, and so could the Executor. Either the ion cannon takes them all out, or it fails to take out the Executor and it wipes the floor with the CIS. This match-up goes with one extreme or the other.
Gandalf the Gay
Originally posted by Scorpionov
so it is settled the ion pulse cannon can mean the difference of defeat or victory for both sides
Are you retarded? Just leave these forums if you're going to be such a dickhead.
Darth_Glentract
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Don't be so sure. The ion pulse cannons on the Malevolence take out multiple Republic capital ships per shot; it's area of effect is much larger than the Rebel ion cannon on Hoth.
If the pulse wave can penetrate the Executor's shielding, then the ship will be disabled. I for one doubt it can, but that's irrelevant.
The canon that the Rebel's had was a planetary one though. Planetary ion canons and turbolasers have been established to be FAR more powerful than anything seen on capital ships. If the Malevolence's ion canons were so effective, the Imperials wouldn't have putter greater emphasis on turbolasers than ion canons when going from the first ISD design to the second. In an case, ISD's are far more powerful than the Clone Wars ships and from Mike Wong's analysis at stardestroyer.net a SSD is roughly 100 times more powerful than an ISD.
Scorpionov
Originally posted by Gandalf the Gay
Are you retarded? Just leave these forums if you're going to be such a dickhead.
dude what the hell is your problem?
Red Nemesis
He's banned. So you can ignore him.
I'm gonna stick with the Executor. Area of Effect =/= hypervelocity impacts.
Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
The canon that the Rebel's had was a planetary one though. Planetary ion canons and turbolasers have been established to be FAR more powerful than anything seen on capital ships. If the Malevolence's ion canons were so effective, the Imperials wouldn't have putter greater emphasis on turbolasers than ion canons when going from the first ISD design to the second. In an case, ISD's are far more powerful than the Clone Wars ships and from Mike Wong's analysis at stardestroyer.net a SSD is roughly 100 times more powerful than an ISD. Hence the necessity for the ion pulse cannon's design to be incorporated in to the Malevolence's structure--such was is its energy demand. That thing was capable of shutting down fleets. It was a pulse wave that expanded outward, not a single shot like the Hoth cannon. I have no idea if it would bypass the shields on the Executor, but the ISDs are done for. This is a big "maybe" with nothing to conclusive to work with.
FIRE KING04
100% of the time the executor would win. the malevolence ion cannon was only able to dish out more ionic damage 2x that of a venator. the executor super star destroyer had power that of over 100x that of a venator. so while the ion cannon would always his the executor. the electromagnetic damage would partially damage a few of the systems it would not completely disable any system so the executor would slug the shot of the malevolence and then begin to bombard the ship with its overwhelming firepower. that is why the executor would always win.
Underachiever59
Necromancy on a thread that's been dead for 11 years? I'm impressed.
I do agree, though, the Malevolence just doesn't pack enough punch with its ion cannon to disable the Executor. Even if it does briefly disable the Executor, there's just too much bulk there for the Malevolence to do any meaningful damage before any number of the Executor's back up generators get it back online long enough for it to utterly obliterate the Malevolence.
Not to mention how long it takes the Malevolence to charge its ion cannon. In that time, the Executor could already to severe damage to many of the Malevolence's critical systems.
Past that, the three ISDs against the three Providence-class cruisers is just laughable. The ISDs would make short work of the cruisers, and come at the Malevolence from three separate angles to prevent them all from being disabled by a single shot of the ion cannon. The Malevolence can't slug it out against three ISDs, even if it were able to somehow remove the Executor from the equation.
This is just a lopsided fight in general. 2010 sure was a different time.
Zenwolf
...Yeah, not sure why this was bumped. Hell the Executor could solo this.
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