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Maximillian (A Vampire in Brooklyn"

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versus Blade.


Blade gets all his guns and his sword, Max is unarmed. They fight in a dark alley at night.

Who wins?


BTW, you can watch "A Vampire in Brooklyn", the full movie, on youtube. Good flick.

What all can Max do? I havent seen the movie in like 10 years.

I have never watched Vampire in Brooklyn so what are this dudes feats? is he fast? slow? did he talk funny? who did he kill?

Max is uber strong. He ripped a man apart in seconds. He can shapeshift. He is at least as fast as Ed Cullen. He can levitate.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

BTW, you can watch "A Vampire in Brooklyn", the full movie, on youtube. Good flick.

Why would anyone want to? It's a shit movie.

Blade wins, on that alone.

Nah, it aint shit, it's fine.

I am liking Blade here for his h2h feats, but Max is pretty ****in tough.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, it aint shit, it's fine.

I am liking Blade here for his h2h feats, but Max is pretty ****in tough.

I think more people would agree with me, than you, on this film. Shit, shit, shit. Only plus, Angela Basset and all her chocolatey-goodness is in it; that's it.

He's not so tough he's going to avoid being sliced, shot and stabbed by Blade.

Matter of opinion, even if all agree with you. It's worth watching if only to see John Witherspoon.

Max ia faster, WAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster. He got shot, right in the chest, and he said "it itches." Stabbed? lulz.

I think Max takes it. Silver has no effect on him. Nor does gunshots. or being stabbed. The only thing that killed him was that voodoo staff that dude gave G Money.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Matter of opinion, even if all agree with you. It's worth watching if only to see John Witherspoon.

Max ia faster, WAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster. He got shot, right in the chest, and he said "it itches." Stabbed? lulz.

I think Max takes it. Silver has no effect on him. Nor does gunshots. or being stabbed. The only thing that killed him was that voodoo staff that dude gave G Money.

Blade has dealt with incredibly fast opponents before; increidbly durable ones too. Super-Frost would rape Maximillion, yet Blade was skilled and fast enough to cut him several times.

Max couldn't survive a decapitation or being cut in two, I don't recall anything in that film that would suggest this.

Originally posted by Robtard
Blade has dealt with incredibly fast opponents before; increidbly durable ones too. Super-Frost would rape Maximillion, yet Blade was skilled and fast enough to cut him several times.

Max couldn't survive a decapitation or being cut in two, I don't recall anything in that film that would suggest this. Point I guess. Blade better be on his toes though, cuz if Max gets ahold of him it's all over.

And BTW Max is faster than Frost.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Point I guess. Blade better be on his toes though, cuz if Max gets ahold of him it's all over.

And BTW Max is faster than Frost.

You sure? From Blade's point of view, Frost was moving extremely fast.

What was Max's best strength feat?

Originally posted by Robtard
You sure? From Blade's point of view, Frost was moving extremely fast.

What was Max's best strength feat?

Frost wasn't moving uber fast when Blade fought him. He was a good distance away, then he FOOM FOOM FOOMED in Blades face. If frost had moved that fast while actually fighting Blade never woulda touched him. Frost was overconfident because he knew he could regen from Blades sword and gunshots and H2H. If he had known about the coagulant, he woulda ripped Blades head off instead of playing with him. And yes, Frost was playing with Blade.

I dont recall, but Max ripped a guy apart in a coupla seconds and ate him. He's at least as strong as Ed Cullen. And way faster.

Is he vulnerable to sunlight?

mhm.

If he is he's dead.

How? Blade has his sword and guns only, and the fight is at night.

Oh. Was under the impression Blade was getting his standard equipment which would include the UV flashbang grenades. In Blade: Trinity, Blade acquirred sundogs from the Nightstalkers so.....unless this guy can dodge bullets he's a goner.

Max could likely dodge bullets, he IS that fast.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Max could likely dodge bullets, he IS that fast.


b b b but was Max shown to dodge bullets?

Nah, but he did show that type of speed. He is shown moving so fast it appears as if he is teleporting, kinda like Dracula in Van Helsing.

Danny the Dog dodged a bullet from two feet, Max is a thousand times faster than Danny.

D-d-d-d-d-do the math.

Blade wins...Eddie Murphy's vampire has no feats against a quality opponent.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Blade wins...Eddie Murphy's vampire has no feats against a quality opponent.

So Blade wins despite:

Max being way faster.
Max being way stronger.
Max being able to shapeshift.
Max being able to fly.
Max being able to absorb bullets, Nomak style.


AND despite Blade having nothing in his arsenal that would even faze Max? Remember, the only to kill Max was to use the voodoo blade. Blade doesnt have it.

So, then, having none of us seen(coughcoughheardcoughcough - of) this film, and you know these two characters physical stats supposedly aren't comparable, the weapons you gave Blade don't faze the listed opponent, one might pose the question: Why did you make this thread?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
So, then, having none of us seen(coughcoughheardcoughcough - of) this film, and you know these two characters physical stats supposedly aren't comparable, the weapons you gave Blade don't faze the listed opponent, one might pose the question: Why did you make this thread?

Blade likely loses due to Max's far superior physical attributes, but, as Rob said earlier:

Max couldn't survive a decapitation or being cut in two, I don't recall anything in that film that would suggest this.

So how does Max stack up to the Blade's rogue gallery?

How did Blade kill:

Frost
Nomak
Drake

?

Where does Max stack up with those guys?

Frost>>>Drake>>Nomak>Blade

That's all assuming everyone is unarmed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So Blade wins despite:

Max being way faster.
Max being way stronger.
Max being able to shapeshift.
Max being able to fly.
Max being able to absorb bullets, Nomak style.


AND despite Blade having nothing in his arsenal that would even faze Max? Remember, the only to kill Max was to use the voodoo blade. Blade doesnt have it.


That pretty much sums up Drake..and Blade defeated him!! The only thing Drake couldn't do was fly.

I understand the question. I ask you a question in return. How did Blade kill them?

He killed Frost with an anticoagulant.
He killed Nomak by stabbing him in the heart with his broken sword.
He killed Drake,, well, the virus killed Drake.

See?

Max is better than those others because he is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster, and he is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY stronger.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I understand the question. I ask you a question in return. How did Blade kill them?

He killed Frost with an anticoagulant.
He killed Nomak by stabbing him in the heart with his broken sword.
He killed Drake,, well, the virus killed Drake.

See?

Max is better than those others because he is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster, and he is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY stronger.


He might be stronger, but he's not a better H2H fighter.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
He might be stronger, but he's not a better H2H fighter.

The fact that Max can rip people apart, limb from limb, and has teleporting speed, makes up for that in spades.

Drake, Nomak, Frost and Blade, they were never shown ripping people apart.

I'm pretty sure Nomak and Drake were at least that strong, they had strength feats that would pretty easily allow them to rip people to shreds.

Although it is true that Blade never defeated a boss vampire with help, Nomak even helped him kill himself, the pain was too much or something like that.

Originally posted by KingD19
Although it is true that Blade never defeated a boss vampire with help, Nomak even helped him kill himself, Nomak simply sped up the process. He was going to die.

Blade had no chance against Drake in his demonic form. It was also evident that Drake in his regular form was superior to Blade.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, but he did show that type of speed. He is shown moving so fast it appears as if he is teleporting, kinda like Dracula in Van Helsing.

Danny the Dog dodged a bullet from two feet, Max is a thousand times faster than Danny.

D-d-d-d-d-do the math.

there is no math to do.. it has been proven time and time again where speed does not give a character the win.. Blade is fast too so what makes you think Blade will let Max even touch him??


Can Max match Blade in martial arts skill?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi


Max is better than those others because he is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster, and he is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY stronger.

Again, where do you get these strength feats for Max? Nomak pried open a couple massive blast-door; Blade was about equal when they fought H2H.

That single door-feat is greater than ripping a body apart. Mother-****ing chimpanzee can rip a human body apart, so by all accounts, Maximillion is as strong as a strong chimp.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Can Max match Blade in martial arts skill? I've not seen the film and can tell you the answer based soley on the actor playing him.

Murphy plays Max. Snipes plays Blade.

What do you think?

Originally posted by Robtard
Again, where do you get these strength feats for Max? Nomak pried open a couple massive blast-door; Blade was about equal when they fought H2H.

That single door-feat is greater than ripping a body apart. Mother-****ing chimpanzee can rip a human body apart, so by all accounts, Maximillion is as strong as a strong chimp.

And after Blade beat on Nomak, stabbed him, after Nomak took umpteen bullets, was Nomak affected?

Nope.

In the end, Nomak killed himself.

So yeah, Max's ability to get shot and giggle about it, his strength and speed (teleporting speed), he wins easily. Tell me, when Frost was FOOM FOOM FOOMING to Blade, did you see the reaction on Blades face when Frost was finally in his face? He was surprised. He didnt see Frost until Frost was right there. Max speeds around, emerges behind Blade, and rips off Blades head. End of story.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
there is no math to do.. it has been proven time and time again where speed does not give a character the win.. Blade is fast too so what makes you think Blade will let Max even touch him??


Can Max match Blade in martial arts skill? Jesus, dude......

Blade can pound on Max all day, and Max will laugh it off. He felt no pain. Not even when shot in the chest, he LAUGHED about it.

No way Blade can win here. He has no anticoagulant, which might not even work on Max. Silver does not affect Max. Blade has no virus to use on Max.

The only way Blade can win here is if he decaps Max. With Max's SPEED, no way in hell that is happening. He couldn't decap Nomak, who is slow as molasses compared to Max. See?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I've not seen the film and can tell you the answer based soley on the actor playing him.

Murphy plays Max. Snipes plays Blade.

What do you think?

thanks for telling me, so Max has no MA skills..

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Jesus, dude......

Blade can pound on Max all day, and Max will laugh it off. He felt no pain. Not even when shot in the chest, he LAUGHED about it.

No way Blade can win here. He has no anticoagulant, which might not even work on Max. Silver does not affect Max. Blade has no virus to use on Max.

The only way Blade can win here is if he decaps Max. With Max's SPEED, no way in hell that is happening. He couldn't decap Nomak, who is slow as molasses compared to Max. See?

in all of that gibberish, you are avoiding my question.. figures..

also let me reiterate what you have told me in other threads about a characters villains...

which is Max's villains s^ck, they are not Blade

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
thanks for telling me, so Max has no MA skills..



in all of that gibberish, you are avoiding my question.. figures..

also let me reiterate what you have told me in other threads about a characters villains...

which is Max's villains s^ck, they are not Blade

haermm Look who's having delusions of adequacy!!! haermm


I answered your question perfectly, you dolt. Doesn't matter if Max has zero martial arts skills, Blade has NOTHING to hurt Max with. Blade can punch and kick away all day and night, Max will LOL and rip Blade's head off.

Better? Do I need to break out flash cards for you? Here, let me try this way:

Blade have martial art!!! Max no need martial art!!! Max feel no pain!!!! Blade go kick kick punch punch Max go LOL and rippy rip off Blades head!!!!

Blades bullets go boom boom, bouncy off Max. Blade stabby stab Max, Max LOL's.

Is that slow enough for you? Prolly not.




Now, for those of us with an IQ above third grade level....The only way to kill Max is to use the wooden voodoo staff. Blade has no such staff. The only chance Blade has is decapping Max, and with Max's teleporting speed, not gonna happen. But IF Blade decaps Max, yeah, he wins.

Max even goes says "I've been stabbed, hanged, etc etc etc, but never shot." Odds are they tried to decap him before but it didn't work.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the final nail in the coffin. Max can use magic.

At :34, he produces flames with his bare hands, then right after, he displays teleporting speed. At 8:21, more magic, and when Max is shot, he makes his CLOTHES regen:

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More magic? At 1:00:

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At 3:20, Max appears out of thin air, apparating!!!

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So on top of it all, Max can use magic, quite effectively too.


Counter?

Shit posted the same vid twice.....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Shit posted the same vid twice.....

Moron.

The last two feats are from the same vid.

so... can someone please tell me who exactly killed this Max character?...


Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the final nail in the coffin. Max can use magic.

At :34, he produces flames with his bare hands, then right after, he displays teleporting speed. At 8:21, more magic, and when Max is shot, he makes his CLOTHES regen:

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More magic? At 1:00:

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At 3:20, Max appears out of thin air, apparating!!!

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So on top of it all, Max can use magic, quite effectively too.


Counter?


I cannot remmeber but was it ever stated in any of the Blade films that magic hurts/kills him??

So far it seems Maximillion's magic consist of making a small flame and mending a shirt. Blade better watch out.

Truth be told, we have no idea how large of a flame he can make.

Mending a shirt shows possible transmutation.

And he did blow that wind that blew out the candles.

Plus he has legitimate porting speed.

Flame size is limited to what we see.

Transmutation abilities are limited to what we see.

Okay, he's got a great pair of lungs.

He has that.

Blade is WAY outclassed here, man. He'll never even see Max.

The Blade ship is blub blub blub at the bottom of the Atlantic.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so... can someone please tell me who exactly killed this Max character?...





I cannot remmeber but was it ever stated in any of the Blade films that magic hurts/kills him??

Nope, but the magic will at the least disorient Blade. Add in Max's porting speed and his ability to rip a man's head clean off, and well:


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Not to mention that Max shatter a rear view mirror by simply blowing on it.

Here's what blade has to throw at Max:

Bullets: Max soaks up all the bullets and laughs.
H2H combat: Merely pisses Max off.
Stabbing Max: PLEASE.

IF Blade decaps him, Blade wins. But I have already proven that Max is no fool, he won't fight overzealous like Frost, it's not his style. FFS Max, when confronted by a stake wielding Justice, darkened the room with magic and disappeared.

Blade easily. His guns and sword are designed to destroy vampires!- he shoots them they disentegrate instantly. Maximillian won't be able to soak them up like he did in the alleyway.

Even his sword doesn't have to decapitate, just by watching parts of Blade you can see his sword clearly disentegrates limbs and even when he cuts them in half they die.

Max is not allergic to silver, man. Try again.

Blade has nothing to hurt him with.

Okay, you say no allergy to silver but being a vampire hunter you think Blade would be able to improvise.

1. He has full auto fire with his machine gun so that would be difficult to dodge ( Max was over-confident against a mobster with a pistol) and this would at least knock him down for Blade to move in with his sword.

2. He has a shotgun which could either blow limbs off, knock him down or impale him to a wall which proved effective against Quinn. Then he could decapitate him at will.

3. Max's magic or speed isn't so great an edge if you consider that Blade's feats fighting other highly trained vampires in Blade 2 is far more impressive. Plus he could simply be able to gauge Max's location by smell and sound alone.

4. His sword skill negates any attempt by Max to get anywhere close to Blade or his head or limbs would come off instantly. If Max DID get his hands on Blade then Blade can fight him off with his martial arts skills and Blade would know a lot more moves to incapacitate him.

A big mis-match really even without the allergy to silver considering he has defeated hordes of weapon carrying vampires, an unarmed one is not going to be much trouble

1. Max can teleport.

2. Max can regen, faster than Logan.

3. Wrong. Max is faster than even La Magra, way faster.

4. Max just teleports behind Blade had rips his head off.

Face it, these are two different vampires from two different universes, and the ones in Max's world are uber compared to Blade's being soso. The only chance Blade has is decapping him, and that won't happen.

Both are vampire's so there is no ripping his head clean off like you suggest, Max did that to a human. If you have them at comparable strength which you have to to make this fight viable then there would be a struggle and Max has no hand-to-hand combat skills(or any really, he kills weak, untrained humans who are scared of him).

You say Blade can't decapitate him with his sword. Why not? Blade is fast, has good reaction skills and most importantly has faced supernatural opponents, so although he hasn't faced teleportation he has faced multiple enemies from all directions and come out on top.

Teleporting/Magic/Regen didn't save Max in the end did it?

Max was betrayed by the woman he loved. What defeated him was assuming she had gone all the way over.

Read the thread again, I have proven time and time again how Blade has no chance here. Not gonna repeat it. You choose not to accept it, that's your call. I'll say it one more time:

Blades bullets will have zero effect on Max.

Max is far too fast for Blade.

Max is stronger, he ripped a man apart in a coupla seconds.

Teleporting, dude, teleporting.

Magic.

Regen.

I disagree and my arguement stands. Blade wins for me.

bye

I disagree with your argument, as do the screen feats, but fair enough.