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who can punch harder colossus or namor

Both are pretty close in strength but being Colossus' fist is steel I'd say he should hit harder.

By feats; Namor wins.

Originally posted by The Nuul
By feats; Namor wins.

namor is stronger imo, AND a lot faster. i'd say namor can do more damage with a punch.

Originally posted by leonidas
namor is stronger imo, AND a lot faster. i'd say namor can do more damage with a punch.

thor

Sub-Mariner

the walrus beats them all at crosswords

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
the walrus beats them all at crosswords

He got a cooler costume too.

iirc colossus has punched his way through a mountain before which took a couple of days to get out.
thats a major strength and durability feat

Namor may be stronger, but colossus is so much tougher and his fists have so much more tensile strengh, he can probaly deal out more damage. If you accelerate a marshmellow and an iron bolt to 100km/h they'll both carry the same kinetic energy but the iron bolt will do a lot more damage when it hits target, cause its tensile strengh is so much greater.

Originally posted by 753
Namor may be stronger, but colossus is so much tougher and his fists have so much more tensile strengh, he can probaly deal out more damage. If you accelerate a marshmellow and an iron bolt to 100km/h they'll both carry the same kinetic energy but the iron bolt will do a lot more damage when it hits target, cause its tensile strengh is so much greater. Namor's punch is faster and he also has super human durability; your analogy doesn't work.

Originally posted by 753
Namor may be stronger, but colossus is so much tougher and his fists have so much more tensile strengh, he can probaly deal out more damage. If you accelerate a marshmellow and an iron bolt to 100km/h they'll both carry the same kinetic energy but the iron bolt will do a lot more damage when it hits target, cause its tensile strengh is so much greater.

Originally posted by Mindset
Namor's punch is faster and he also has super human durability; your analogy doesn't work. yea, dont discount namors dura

Originally posted by Mindset
Namor's punch is faster and he also has super human durability; your analogy doesn't work.

But his durability is not as good, it would depend on how much his extra speed can make up for his comparative deficiency in toughness. I don't think it's enough to make his blows more damaging than colossus's.

Originally posted by 753
But his durability is not as good, it would depend on how much his extra speed can make up for his comparative deficiency in toughness. I don't think it's enough to make his blows more damaging than colossus's. Colossus has fast hands. When he beat the f*ck out of Savage Hulk his fists were drawn in a blur.

Originally posted by 753
But his durability is not as good, it would depend on how much his extra speed can make up for his comparative deficiency in toughness. I don't think it's enough to make his blows more damaging than colossus's. I don't think Colossus's durability makes up for Namor's superior strength and speed.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't think Colossus's durability makes up for Namor's superior strength and speed.

Damn, I guess I lost this round.

Kudos to you sir!

Originally posted by leonidas
namor is stronger imo, AND a lot faster. i'd say namor can do more damage with a punch.

this

+ namor has rage behind each punch

lets do it like this. which would you rather get hit with.
a hand made with flesh and bone
or a hand made of a pure chunk of solid metal.

(namor hands may be far more durable than flesh, but hardness and durability is two different things)

this is like two humans.
human A is stronger and faster
human B has a pair of brass knuckles

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
lets do it like this. which would you rather get hit with.
a hand made with flesh and bone
or a hand made of a pure chunk of solid metal.

(namor hands may be far more durable than flesh, but hardness and durability is two different things)

Originally posted by Mindset
whats not to understand?
hardness and durability is two different things.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
whats not to understand?
hardness and durability is two different things. First off, not really, especially not in this case.

Anyway, his bones are harder than almost any metal.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
lets do it like this. which would you rather get hit with.
a hand made with flesh and bone
or a hand made of a pure chunk of solid metal.

(namor hands may be far more durable than flesh, but hardness and durability is two different things)

this is like two humans.
human A is stronger and faster
human B has a pair of brass knuckles

Colosuss's hand is not solid metal.Also it depnds on how much stronger and faster.
Example:
Colossus can punch at 20 MPH with 50 tons of force.
Namor can punch at 50 MPH with 80 tons of force.

Namor hand:5 lb.
Colossus hand:10 lb.

Personally it seems like namors strength and speed DOES make up for colossus's metalness.

Namor.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/783220-colossusandjuggernaut102.jpg

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/783220-colossusandjuggernaut102.jpg ok...he knocked juggs back.that proves nothing.If he wasn't moving in the first place that proves nothing.

Namor punches harder, he's in a higher strength class, so his blows hit with more damage/impact. Colossus punches might feel a bit harder since his fist is straight metal that doesn't give like flesh, but Namor hits harder.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Colosuss's hand is not solid metal.Also it depnds on how much stronger and faster.
Example:
Colossus can punch at 20 MPH with 50 tons of force.
Namor can punch at 50 MPH with 80 tons of force.

Namor hand:5 lb.
Colossus hand:10 lb.

Personally it seems like namors strength and speed DOES make up for colossus's metalness. its solid. his insides as well as the outsides are pure metal alloy

also were you getting this 50 and 80 ton from?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
ok...he knocked juggs back.that proves nothing.If he wasn't moving in the first place that proves nothing.

You're wrong there, Cain has taken hits from heavy weights like Thor without bracing or anything, and he hasn't been moved, for C to knock him on his ass, while he was in his weakest incarnation no less, is very impressive.

And yes, Colossus is fully metal inside and outside, and while he's not one solid chunk, all of his organs/veins/nerves, etc... are metal. And his blood is like mercury/quicksilver.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
ok...he knocked juggs back.that proves nothing.If he wasn't moving in the first place that proves nothing. juggernaut was running forward..

Juggernaut got back up though.....and Colossus knocked him on his @ss again.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
juggernaut was running forward.. Then it's obviously PIS. . .

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
juggernaut was running forward.. Originally posted by Mindset
Then it's obviously PIS. . . Yeah really.Everyone i've ever talked to says if anything bad ever happens to juggs it's PIS.Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
its solid. his insides as well as the outsides are pure metal alloy

also were you getting this 50 and 80 ton from? Like I posted...it's an example.But namor is stronger then colossus so it's probably not far from right.

Well, considering both are Class 100, I don't know where the 50/80 ton striking force is coming from either. Colossus in his weaker days was landing punches on Gladiator that were dropping the buildings around them.

But yeah, Namor is stronger than, and hits harder than the tinman.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
lets do it like this. which would you rather get hit with.
a hand made with flesh and bone
or a hand made of a pure chunk of solid metal.

(namor hands may be far more durable than flesh, but hardness and durability is two different things)

this is like two humans.
human A is stronger and faster
human B has a pair of brass knuckles

You know what makes up for the metal 'advantage' that Colossus has?

The ability to knock Surfer around. Smash Iron Man's armor, etc. You know, feats.

Originally posted by Blanket
You know what makes up for the metal 'advantage' that Colossus has?

The ability to knock Surfer around. Smash Iron Man's armor, etc. You know, feats. and namor doesn't have feats either?He's fought the hulk a lot of times (usually winning)fought the fantastic four and won some times and he can fly.Plus not all of those were in the water.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
and namor doesn't have feats either?He's fought the hulk a lot of times (usually winning)fought the fantastic four and won some times and he can fly.Plus not all of those were in the water. What he said were Namor feats.

Originally posted by 753
Namor may be stronger, but colossus is so much tougher and his fists have so much more tensile strengh, he can probaly deal out more damage. If you accelerate a marshmellow and an iron bolt to 100km/h they'll both carry the same kinetic energy but the iron bolt will do a lot more damage when it hits target, cause its tensile strengh is so much greater.


you make it seem like there's a huge disparity b/n their fists. Namor's fists aren't exactly "marshmallow". if anything, it's more like a hard rock compared to an iron bolt. with Namor's being like a hard rock and Colossus with the iron bolt. it's more like a hard rock moving at 100km/h compared to an iron bolt moving at 90/h.

Hmm.. I remember someone here claiming Emma Frost strikes ten times harder than her strength class because of her diamond form.

Anyway, Namor the pretty boy got this in the bag. Russian metal or no, he is outclassed.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Hmm.. I remember someone here claiming Emma Frost strikes ten times harder than her strength class because of her diamond form.

Anyway, Namor the pretty boy got this in the bag. Russian metal or no, he is outclassed. I remember people claiming the same with Luke Cage.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
and namor doesn't have feats either?He's fought the hulk a lot of times (usually winning)fought the fantastic four and won some times and he can fly.Plus not all of those were in the water. No... Namor doesn't have feats.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I remember people claiming the same with Luke Cage. People are stupid.

Originally posted by Blanket
No... Namor doesn't have feats. Epic failure...

Originally posted by Blanket


Smash Iron Man's armor

An angry Spider-Man punched a hole in Iron Man's helmet.

An angry Hulk didn't.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
facepalm2

caught edit, you fail'd

Originally posted by KingD19
An angry Spider-Man punched a hole in Iron Man's helmet.

Really? I only recall him bursting his knuckle Kinda like Cable did when he hit Logan.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
caught edit, you fail'd



Really? I only recall him bursting his knuckle Kinda like Cable did when he hit Logan. Fr some reason the custom smilie isn't working on it so I tried to make it myself.
Exactly what is iron mans armor made of?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Epic failure... Yes, you did.

Originally posted by KingD19
An angry Spider-Man punched a hole in Iron Man's helmet. Didn't happen.

Originally posted by Mindset
An angry Hulk didn't.

Aren't comics funny like that?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW



Really? I only recall him bursting his knuckle Kinda like Cable did when he hit Logan.

I could swear he was in his civvies, he had Tony's helmet in his hand, then he punched it. He dropped it on the ground, and left, and the helmet had a big hole in the face, and was smoking.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Fr some reason the custom smilie isn't working on it so I tried to make it myself.
Exactly what is iron mans armor made of? It's csm, not esm.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Fr some reason the custom smilie isn't working on it so I tried to make it myself.
Exactly what is iron mans armor made of?

There were many of them...

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/Armors.html

Originally posted by KingD19
I could swear he was in his civvies, he had Tony's helmet in his hand, then he punched it. He dropped it on the ground, and left, and the helmet had a big hole in the face, and was smoking.

He ripped off Tony's mask after webbing him up.

lol

Originally posted by Mindset
It's csm, not esm. facepalm2
Edit:thanks
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There were many of them...

http://www.ironmanarmory.com/Armors.html



He ripped off Tony's mask after webbing him up.
Where is the suit that tony used to fight WWH in that?It isn't there...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
facepalm2
Edit:thanks

Where is the suit that tony used to fight WWH in that?It isn't there...

That's one of the newest ones, it's the Super Hulkbuster armor, since he knew the normal Hulkbuster armor would do jack squat to WWH.

Originally posted by Blanket
You know what makes up for the metal 'advantage' that Colossus has?

The ability to knock Surfer around. Smash Iron Man's armor, etc. You know, feats. colossus knocked out king hyperion, hulk, sym, exodos(despite having shields up) and warstar

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
colossus knocked out king hyperion, hulk, sym, exodos(despite having shields up) and warstar Not even canon, and I don't think he did...

Didn't he KO Hulk with a kick anyway? Either way, not sure how one compares those to Surfer, or apparently one shotting Iron Man...

Colossus cracked Crimson Dynamo's armor once.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
colossus knocked out king hyperion, hulk, sym, exodos(despite having shields up) and warstar Did Exodus have his shields up?

yes he had shields up

Originally posted by Blanket
Not even canon, and I don't think he did...

Didn't he KO Hulk with a kick anyway? Either way, not sure how one compares those to Surfer, or apparently one shotting Iron Man... to be fair colossus manhandled she hulk in his class70 days at the same time iron man was scared to engage him. his fist also caused shockwaves strong enough to collaps skyscrapers when he fought gladiator

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
to be fair colossus manhandled she hulk in his class70 days at the same time iron man was scared to engage him. his fist also caused shockwaves strong enough to collaps skyscrapers when he fought gladiator
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/FanFourWGCM08.jpg

That feat should purely be attributed to Colosuss on the skyscrapers they didn't collapse.

Originally posted by Blanket
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/FanFourWGCM08.jpg

That feat should purely be attributed to Colosuss on the skyscrapers they didn't collapse. they collapsed and knocked him out.
but the main point was that the writer said they was hitting each other as hard as they could and neither couldnt even hurt each other

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
yes he had shields up What issue?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
they collapsed and knocked him out.
but the main point was that the writer said they was hitting each other as hard as they could and neither couldnt even hurt each other They were large structures.

Nevermind the fact that that's irrelevant. But you just used a feat where Colossus couldn't damage someone...

Originally posted by Blanket
They were large structures.

Nevermind the fact that that's irrelevant. But you just used a feat where Colossus couldn't damage someone... gladiator couldnt damage him either

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
gladiator couldnt damage him either Gladiator isn't namor...

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What issue? ill get back to you with the scan . im on my iphone

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
gladiator couldnt damage him either You figure durability is the deciding factor here?

In a punching contest?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
ill get back to you with the scan . im on my iphone You need an Ipad...
I was just saying that depending on the writer colossus can beat juggs but lose to namor even though juggs>namor.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Gladiator isn't namor... gladiator is in thors strength class

Originally posted by Black bolt z
You need an Ipad...
I was just saying that depending on the writer colossus can beat juggs but lose to namor even though juggs>namor. this is true

heres the scan of colossus breaking exodus shield and knocking him out
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Jyppe/colossusexodus.jpg

Originally posted by Black bolt z
You need an Ipad...
I was just saying that depending on the writer colossus can beat juggs but lose to namor even though juggs>namor.

colossus beats juggernaut through skill and smarts, though; not strength/durability.

Originally posted by -Pr-
colossus beats juggernaut through skill and smarts, though; not strength/durability. durability might have a part too...

It doesn't.

Originally posted by Mindset
It doesn't. juggernaut has punched colossus and slammed large objects on him.

Cool.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
juggernaut has punched colossus and slammed large objects on him.

it just allows colossus to stay awake another few seconds before bfr'ing him somehow. that's about it.

Juggs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>colossus in durability

he not saying colossus has better durability than juggs, hes just saying his good durability allows him to remain in the battle.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Juggs>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>colossus in durability juggs has infinit durability it would be an infinit times more durable than colossus.
but i said was that colossus durabilty keeps him from getting killed by juggs

The one with the cool battle cry hits harder

i believe namor is stronger but in colossus's bio metallic form there would be no give in his punch like their is with flesh and bone

Originally posted by K Von Doom
The one with the cool battle cry hits harder

IMPERIOUS REX!

How is this still open? We could have Piotr saying on panel Namor punches harder and that guy would still argue otherwise.

IMO Namor

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
i believe namor is stronger but in colossus's bio metallic form there would be no give in his punch like their is with flesh and bone



IMPERIOUS REX! Namors hand is stronger then any steel.Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
juggs has infinit durability it would be an infinit times more durable than colossus.
but i said was that colossus durabilty keeps him from getting killed by juggs Well juggs doesn't have infinite durability.You can never reach infinite and cyrotakk(I can never get his name right)can't be THAT powerful to give him durability that would make him unkillable to someone like galactus.
The fight also depends on when the last time namor was in the water.