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Not groundbeaking headlines or anything, but as a fan I'm confused, so I thought I'd mention it. What do you guys think about this in relation to the last episode of South Park:






I'm not sure I buy it. When I watched it I thought the long beeps were just a joke that I couldn't quite get. And that the parts where they censor Muhammad were also jokes on censorship. I do know that the episode wasn't that offensive, its nothing on Family Guy levels, though they do rip on Muhammad an awful lot. But, I mean, censoring South Park is just wrong. Its against everything the show stands for. They even did 2 episodes specifically railing against this sort of thing.

Btw, if people think this should be in the TV forum can a mod move this please?

LoL, Muslims.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not groundbeaking headlines or anything, but as a fan I'm confused, so I thought I'd mention it. What do you guys think about this in relation to the last episode of South Park:






I'm not sure I buy it. When I watched it I thought the long beeps were just a joke that I couldn't quite get. And that the parts where they censor Muhamid were also jokes on censorship. I do know that the episode wasn't that offensive, its nothing on Family Guy levels, though they do rip on Muhamid (sp?) an awful lot. But, I mean, censoring South Park is just wrong. Its against everything the show stands for. They even did 2 episodes specifically railing against this sort of thing.

Btw, if people think this should be in the TV forum can a mod move this please?

I am with you on this. I thought it was just a joke, but the end part that was bleeped, was really annoying, and I'm glad that it was not on purpose. We should all get pictures of (censored) and plaster them all over the place.

Damn, even I was censored.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, Muslims.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am with you on this. I thought it was just a joke, but the end part that was bleeped, was really annoying, and I'm glad that it was not on purpose. We should all get pictures of (censored) and plaster them all over the place.

Damn, even I was censored.


Those Bastards!

Also, more info: http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/apr/22/south-park-censored-fatwa-muhammad

cartman makes fun of kyle for being a jew in every episode whats wrong with muslim bashing ?

also i missed the episode. are they gonna show it on tv again or where online can i watch it ?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not groundbeaking headlines or anything, but as a fan I'm confused, so I thought I'd mention it. What do you guys think about this in relation to the last episode of South Park:






I'm not sure I buy it. When I watched it I thought the long beeps were just a joke that I couldn't quite get. And that the parts where they censor Muhammad were also jokes on censorship. I do know that the episode wasn't that offensive, its nothing on Family Guy levels, though they do rip on Muhammad an awful lot. But, I mean, censoring South Park is just wrong. Its against everything the show stands for. They even did 2 episodes specifically railing against this sort of thing.

Btw, if people think this should be in the TV forum can a mod move this please? They don't rip on Muhammed at all.

I found the way they were censoring it to be hilarious. Probably more funny than if they hadn't. Whether they were forced to or not I think it was a quality episode.

Originally posted by Mindset


One thing I'd like to know, was Muhammad such a pathetic douche-bag that he couldn't take a comical- jab, like the Islam/Muslims seem to make him out to be?

Originally posted by Robtard
One thing I'd like to know, was Muhammad such a pathetic douche-bag that he couldn't take a comical- jab, like the Islam/Muslims seem to make him out to be? I'd hope not.

Lol, they had Jesus looking at porn and Buddha doing coke.

Here ya go

Scroll down to episode 6, or 5 since its a 2-parter. The zshare video should work.

And becuase jews can take a joke.

And Moses being that guy from Power Rangers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHRaP4LPCaU

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when are they gonna show scuzzlebutt again ?

he was cool

Originally posted by chomperx9
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when are they gonna show scuzzlebutt again ?

he was cool

I liked Patrick as the leg.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I liked Patrick as the leg. they should have put bush as his left leg

Originally posted by chomperx9
they should have put bush as his left leg

That would have been disgusting.

So 201 was pulled from the website as was Super Best Friends and Cartoon Wars will likely be pulled too. No word on whether the DVDs will be pulled from stores too. Rather than doing that, why didn't they just press charges and arrest everyone at Revolution Muslim. Threats aren't protected speech.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
So 201 was pulled from the website as was Super Best Friends and Cartoon Wars will likely be pulled too. No word on whether the DVDs will be pulled from stores too. Rather than doing that, why didn't they just press charges and arrest everyone at Revolution Muslim. Threats aren't protected speech.

Lawyers from Comedy Central say that the wording was carefully selected so that they cannot press charges.

why are they blocking some of the other previous episodes as well from being viewed on their site ?

The last two South Park episodes were pretty lame.

Originally posted by kgkg
The last two South Park episodes were pretty lame.

South Park in general is pretty lame.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
South Park in general is pretty lame. What else is there? I enjoy it from time to time.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
South Park in general is pretty lame. its better than family guy

Originally posted by chomperx9
its better than family guy

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Originally posted by Nemesis X
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Originally posted by chomperx9
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South Park is much better than Family Guy. Every episode of South Park is as fresh as the last and it is always very current in terms of content. (As it only takes a week or less to make an episode)

i agree

Originally posted by Nemesis X
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Family Guy is the worst "adult" cartoon I know.

Originally posted by Mindset
Family Guy is the worst "adult" cartoon I know. ren and stimpy make me laugh more than family guy

my interpretation was that the fact they were forced to censer themselves just made them rip on the whole situation worse....the long beeps at the end i found to be very humorous.....it was obvious they were just doing that to poke fun at the people that wanted them to censer it in the first place


on a side note the original scott teddermen ep was awesome....and i loved the connection

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And it shows. Shut your mouth.

I always get lost with Family Guy, because at some point one of the characters will make some Pop Culture reference I will have no idea what they are talking about.

Originally posted by Autokrat
I always get lost with Family Guy, because at some point one of the characters will make some Pop Culture reference I will have no idea what they are talking about. Not only that, they're always really specific US pop culture references. Being from the UK I probably get less of them than you. This is the main reason why American Dad is better than Family Guy... As it's pretty similar without the stupid cut aways. (Plus there is Roger.)

South Park > American Dad > Family Guy > The Simpsons

inorite?

the simpsons is up there with south park futurama and robot chicken as the best adult cartoons evar >\

Originally posted by Mindset
FAIL

Depends on which season he's thinking of.

I was talking about in their current forms... Hence the leaving out Futurama as the new proper series hasn't started yet.

New Simpsons isn't great. It's certainly less entertaining than the 3 I listed above it.

Originally posted by Mindset
Family Guy is the worst "adult" cartoon I know.

I like South Park, and I think the last few seasons have been great. Family Guy is pretty funny to me, but lately it's been a bit meh at times. Simpsons pretty similar. Futurama is great. American Dad is pretty good, too.

Cause you guys asked.

assy mcgee

Well if we're listing good adult cartoons I'll toss my vote in for Monster. I guess that's more "mature" than "adult" though.

Isn't that anime?

Originally posted by Mindset
Isn't that anime?

Same difference really. It's a great example of how to do an adult animated show without appealing to people who still think that swears and poop are edgy.

Originally posted by inimalist
assy mcgee

I found that show pretty funny, in an extremely immature kind of way. Apparently not many other people did.

It was pretty easy to forget though. Meh.

Back on topic: I still don't understand how people set out to offend people then act shocked when someone gets offended.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Back on topic: I still don't understand how people set out to offend people then act shocked when someone gets offended.

Who acted shocked?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Back on topic: I still don't understand how people set out to offend people then act shocked when someone gets offended.

I think they were making a fairly good point, if we can make fun of other religious leaders (Jesus, Joseph Smith, Tom Cruise) then it isn't right for networks to say "oh, just don't mock Muhammad".

As Kyle said in one episode "it's either all ok, or none of it's ok".

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Same difference really. It's a great example of how to do an adult animated show without appealing to people who still think that swears and poop are edgy. Well yea, but it's not a comedic adult cartoon, is it?

Originally posted by Mindset
Well yea, but it's not a comedic adult cartoon, is it?

Correct, it's a drama.

How irrelevant.

Ridiculous.

Looks like the great networks are so very much afraid. 'Fear leads to the Dark Side."

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I think they were making a fairly good point, if we can make fun of other religious leaders (Jesus, Joseph Smith, Tom Cruise) then it isn't right for networks to say "oh, just don't mock Muhammad".

As Kyle said in one episode "it's either all ok, or none of it's ok". Kyle also said "shut up, fatass" whenever Cartman mocked him, his mother or his people. I guess the freedom of speech only works to the point when someone gets offended. Ofcourse the show shouldn't be banned but there's nothing wrong with some people hating it and making threats. I mean, insult someone on the street and expect to either get sued or punched in the face. That's how it works. Also all it does is makes the show more popular.

I just would like to believe that the censorship on this episode was a wink to the religious extremist suppression of free speech, but I am afraid that this time they truly got scared. Might be nothing, but the reference to Theo van Gogh they made reminds me how vulnerable you can be in in a free world as long as it has lunatics next door, seeping in and trying to take over

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
I just would like to believe that the censorship on this episode was a wink to the religious extremist suppression of free speech, but I am afraid that this time they truly got scared.

The writers explicitly stated that much of the censoring was added in by a frightened network.

All the networks should synchronize as many shows as possible to show/say something "offensive" about Islam. This way the radicals can't pick on any one show, and they'll just have to try to destroy America...

...oh, wait, they already are.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The writers explicitly stated that much of the censoring was added in by a frightened network.


Yeah, it seems weird though. Like it is set up.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, it seems weird though. Like it is set up.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Originally posted by SamZED
Kyle also said "shut up, fatass" whenever Cartman mocked him, his mother or his people. I guess the freedom of speech only works to the point when someone gets offended. Ofcourse the show shouldn't be banned but there's nothing wrong with some people hating it and making threats. I mean, insult someone on the street and expect to either get sued or punched in the face. That's how it works. Also all it does is makes the show more popular. Of course there's something wrong with people making threats.

Originally posted by Mindset
Of course there's something wrong with people making threats.

There's no initiation of force

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm not sure what you mean.

Well the end narration just seemed weird, having a short thing done by Kyle then Jesus then Santa, just seemed to be designed to be funny if bleeped out. And they say that the original message wasn't even about Mohammed so why in the world would it be censored and so far I couldn't find a place that said what the original dialogue was. And why was even the name Mohammed censored. I don't know it seems a bit publicity stunt-y

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There's no initiation of force I'm not sure if you're joking or not.

Originally posted by Mindset
I'm not sure if you're joking or not.

He's joking. He follows a perceived calling as the satirist of a misunderstood Objectivist philosophy he feels is prevalent on here and the internet in general.

well setting the end aside the censoring of that episode was wrong in every way and comedy central was stupid for doing it....the group of radical Muslims that are living in new york that made those death threats should be found and sent to jail

but like i said before the ending was definitely made that way on purpose

Originally posted by Mindset
Of course there's something wrong with people making threats. Not really, one should see it coming. "I'll kick your ass" is also a threat. It's all about cultural differences. Its just in some countries you call someone's mother a "whore" and you'll get "F you!" as a responce, in others you'd get punched and in some countries people would kill you for calling their mother a "whore" because insults isnt a normal thing for them like it is for us. Its hard to understand unless you've lived there but it doesnt make it wrong, maybe by US or UK standarts only. Im personally ok with that.

Originally posted by SamZED
Not really, one should see it coming. "I'll kick your ass" is also a threat. It's all about cultural differences. Its just in some countries you call someone's mother a "whore" and you'll get "F you!" as a responce, in others you'd get punched and in some countries people would kill you for calling their mother a "whore" because insults isnt a normal thing for them like it is for us. Its hard to understand unless you've lived there but it doesnt make it wrong, maybe by US or UK standarts only. Im personally ok with that. I'm not sure how anything you said is supposed to make making threats alright, it's still wrong.

Also, we aren't talking about two people on the street, we are talking about a religious organization based in NY making death threats to two writers.

Originally posted by Mindset
I'm not sure how anything you said is supposed to make making threats alright, it's still wrong.

Also, we aren't talking about two people on the street, we are talking about a religious organization based in NY making death threats to two writers. No more wrong than saying "i'll kick your ass" when someone insults you in any way. A threat is a threat. And yeah, I know I was just making an analgy. Anyway, I think it's bs, they cencored it on purpose.

Death threats are more wrong than threats of saying "I'll kick your ass". Just like if each of those threats were to be carried out one is more wrong than the other.

But that wasn't really the whole point I was making. One is an entire organization, one is just one guy.

Anyway, threats are wrong, simple as that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
He's joking. He follows a perceived calling as the satirist of a misunderstood Objectivist philosophy he feels is prevalent on here and the internet in general.

Sh** Up Fa**ss!

I wasn't too happy that they censored it, they censored the whole speech which was just utterly stupid, I'm hoping when they bring out the DVD its uncensored

Originally posted by shiv
Sh** Up Fa**ss!

Reported.

Oh dear

Originally posted by steverules_2
Oh dear

He better apologize or I'm gonna go muslim on his ass uhuh

Thats like ta worst kind!!! ha-son

Bardock ****** ****** ** ******* *********

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Well the end narration just seemed weird, having a short thing done by Kyle then Jesus then Santa, just seemed to be designed to be funny if bleeped out. And they say that the original message wasn't even about Mohammed so why in the world would it be censored and so far I couldn't find a place that said what the original dialogue was. And why was even the name Mohammed censored. I don't know it seems a bit publicity stunt-y

I tend to agree with you

I haven't seen anything other than the initial press release from Matt and Trey from the relevant parties, so it is really hard to tell.

For comparison, when Issac Hayes left and there was that controversy, both did several interviews about the situation, iirc. I know one of them was on the Penn Gilette radio show at the time.

Originally posted by lord xyz
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zomg?

Once someone told me that they were born retarded due to teratogens and that they loved south park in the same sentence.

I was like... Dude... only one would have sufficed to make both points. You're being redundant.

Originally posted by shiv
Bardock ****** ****** ** ******* *********

A powerful statement about the futility of censorship.

Originally posted by One Free Man
Once someone told me that they were born retarded due to teratogens and that they loved south park in the same sentence.

I was like... Dude... only one would have sufficed to make both points. You're being redundant. E.A.D

Originally posted by Robtard
One thing I'd like to know, was Muhammad such a pathetic douche-bag that he couldn't take a comical- jab, like the Islam/Muslims seem to make him out to be?

Well, he was uptight due to his tribe complex and lack of belonging and didn't take too kind to criticism and was a bit of an outcast. Maybe that came to reflect in the Koran...

Maybe...

Originally posted by Mindset
E.A.D Just got finished with that, what's next?

So will they show the second part or do I have to find it online?

Originally posted by One Free Man
Just got finished with that, what's next? Brush your teeth.

Originally posted by Mindset
Brush your teeth. no I like the way my mouth feels right now. Kind of squishy...

Gay

Don't hate me. I was born this way. fay

Originally posted by BloodRain
So will they show the second part or do I have to find it online?

mr twig beckons

I hope they get to relatiate one day...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Well, he was uptight due to his tribe complex and lack of belonging and didn't take too kind to criticism and was a bit of an outcast. Maybe that came to reflect in the Koran...

Maybe...

So you're saying he was a total humorless douche?

Originally posted by Robtard
So you're saying he was a total humorless douche?

I don' think he'd give a shit if a cartoonist made him a bear (just so long as it wasn't a pig). He repeatedly told people that he wasn't divine, just as human as them. "Do not prostrate before me in adoration. I am but a messenger, a plain warner." But a lot of today's Muslims elevate him more than he would have wanted.

Most Muslim art does not depict him at all. If so, he has no face. See this early Muslim painting? http://www.sol.com.au/kor/kor_pix/15/Islam.JPG His faced is not there to avoid idolatry, so people don't worship him. A lot of Buddha statues in Western China are like that painting, because Muslim invaders chopped off their defining features. Its also the reason the Sphinx is missing its nose and beard--Muslims got rid of them.

So I think that has more to with it, than making him a giant teddy bear.


Edit: here's a better one. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/images_muslimbrotherhood/muslimbrother10_19.jpg