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Both are in bloodlust mode.

When i think about BRB winning I also see Orion winning as well. So i guess it's safe to say that it can go either way!!

On second thought that damn hammer is the factor here BRB 5.5/10

I'm goin with Orion.

6/10

Stalemate

Close one.

I think Orion edges Bill out.

MAybe slightly

Can BRB heal as good as Orion? Can't remember.

you mean like having a healing factor?

Yup.

Orion.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yup.

I don't know tbh....I remember Thor being capable of quick recover before due to his godly stamina but it wasn't like Hulk's HF.

anyway I don't know whether Bill has something like that.
Does Orion have a HF? I mean a consistent one like wolverine's or hulk's. I don't remember seeing something like that in the books I've read with him

Originally posted by Warlord
I don't know tbh....I remember Thor being capable of quick recover before due to his godly stamina but it wasn't like Hulk's HF.

anyway I don't know whether Bill has something like that.
Does Orion have a HF? I mean a consistent one like wolverine's or hulk's. I don't remember seeing something like that in the books I've read with him

Yes. the MB is constantly manipulating him. Like when he was trapped in a Apokolips weapon and was being disintegrated. Orion's healing factor was working overtime.

Still there are fights I can recall with him having the MB and his wounds were there throught the fight...
With that being said I think the MB can indeed provide heeling

MB also healed Superman in the DD fight as well.

Superman does not need healing...clap

The horsie with a hammer wins. Then he chews the fence in triumph.

Originally posted by Warlord
Still there are fights I can recall with him having the MB and his wounds were there throught the fight...
With that being said I think the MB can indeed provide heeling

Healing is one of the Mother Box's primary functions, but great reference has been made to Orion's recooperative abilities as well, like when he was shot over a dozen times by Darkseid's greatest marksman and survived and recovered, despite having huge holes blown in his body.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yes. the MB is constantly manipulating him. Like when he was trapped in a Apokolips weapon and was being disintegrated. Orion's healing factor was working overtime.

And don't forget Slig. He's powerful enough to transform most of Earth into "Jokers", yet his attempt at killing Orion with his matter ripping death hand failed. All it did was rile him up.

Bill

Orion Soloes.....

Originally posted by Desaad
Healing is one of the Mother Box's primary functions, but great reference has been made to Orion's recooperative abilities as well, like when he was shot over a dozen times by Darkseid's greatest marksman and survived and recovered, despite having huge holes blown in his body.

It didn't seem like it took him long to recover, either..

Originally posted by mexicanwolverin
Orion Soloes.....

Gee, I wonder who this could be?

Originally posted by cdtm
It didn't seem like it took him long to recover, either..

Well, I wouldn't say that. He was TKOed and spirited away by Himon and Bekka.

Originally posted by Desaad
Well, I wouldn't say that. He was TKOed and spirited away by Himon and Bekka.

I mean relatively. Compared to Hulk or Wolverine, it took awhile, but with the wounds he had (Ignoring the fact they would've been life ending in real life.) he should've been on life support and laid up for a good year or two...

And than crippled for life when he finally does recover.

Good fight. It could really go either way, but I'd give Orion the slight edge.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Can BRB heal as good as Orion? Can't remember. Yes. Not only can Skuttlebutt heal Bill, but his hammer can heal him (and others) very rapidly as well. Also remember that it's very difficult to harm Bill in the first place. For instance, he was just chilling in the heart of a star that was in the process of going nova, and sufferred no ill-effect. etc.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes. Not only can Skuttlebutt heal Bill, but his hammer can heal him (and others) very rapidly as well. Also remember that it's very difficult to harm Bill in the first place. For instance, he was just chilling in the heart of a star that was in the process of going nova, and sufferred no ill-effect. etc.

Cool, so who gets the majority?

Orion, but not easily.

man this would be one knock down, drag out fight. it's gonna be brutal as hell. still Beta Ray Bill ain't no Thor.

Orion wins in a brutal match.
6/10

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes. Not only can Skuttlebutt heal Bill, but his hammer can heal him (and others) very rapidly as well. Also remember that it's very difficult to harm Bill in the first place. For instance, he was just chilling in the heart of a star that was in the process of going nova, and sufferred no ill-effect. etc.

To the best of my knowledge, Scuttlebutt can't heal Bill on the fly. She can put him into healing vats, but she isn't going to be sending down energy beams to heal him.


In terms of the Hammer doing it, do you have some references for that? I've seen it happen when he transforms from Bill into his Thor-mode, but never in the midst of battle.

Originally posted by Desaad
To the best of my knowledge, Scuttlebutt can't heal Bill on the fly. She can put him into healing vats, but she isn't going to be sending down energy beams to heal him.


In terms of the Hammer doing it, do you have some references for that? I've seen it happen when he transforms from Bill into his Thor-mode, but never in the midst of battle. I didn't say Skuttlebutt could heal Bill on the fly - just that she could heal him.

I was referring to the instance where Bill healed and rejuvenated Thor (almost instantly) following his battle with Fenris:
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=brb_misc9.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
I didn't say Skuttlebutt could heal Bill on the fly - just that she could heal him.

But what relevance does that have to a 'vs' battle? It's a bit like saying Superman can use kryptonian tech or something, isn't it?



Ah, I did not remember that. Cool stuff.

bill!

Orion has better healing feats, I think.

What does healing have to do with this battle? If Orion take the same kind of punishment that Star Dust faced while fighting BRB, he is getting KTFO, its just that simple.

By the way, I am giving this to Bill. Orion would have to make this up close and personal due to his energy attacks being absorbed and I could see Bill laying waste to Orion in a H2H scenerio.

He can work around physical attacks like Martian Manhunter.

Originally posted by carver9
What does healing have to do with this battle? If Orion take the same kind of punishment that Star Dust faced while fighting BRB, he is getting KTFO, its just that simple.

By the way, I am giving this to Bill. Orion would have to make this up close and personal due to his energy attacks being absorbed and I could see Bill laying waste to Orion in a H2H scenerio.



you make it seem like Orion is a below herald pushover.
Orion wins.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He can work around physical attacks like Martian Manhunter.

what do you mean by that?

Turning intangible for one. He tried to do it when he was cornered in Simonson's run, but Darkseid blocked it and his MB didn't work.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Turning intangible for one. He tried to do it when he was cornered in Simonson's run, but Darkseid blocked it and his MB didn't work.

I don't doubt that it might have tried once in his career but I don't think it is a valid strategy for Orion. After all he is the dog of war he prefers physical contact in fight.
Not to mention Bill's hammer can hit intangible.
However I do think Orion could win 6/10 if he uses all his powers in this fight

True, but he has used it in the past. Even if it's a last resort type thing. Just an option.

cool... how many out of 10 do you see Orion taking?

hmmm, maybe an even split. But I see the same with Thor. Either could win, IMO.

Now, if we use Orion tapping into his godly essence, I say Orion 8/10.

Godly essence makes them almost skyfathers?

I don't know. It was hardly shown. Simonson wanted to explore it more, but the series got cancelled.

In Countdown, Orion showed it a little bit and sent the JLA flying by simply powering up.

Morrison kinda showed it in final Crisis when we saw what Darkseid truly was. A multiverse threat.

Originally posted by Desaad
But what relevance does that have to a 'vs' battle? It's a bit like saying Superman can use kryptonian tech or something, isn't it? Prep-Man asked if Bill could heal as well as Orion. That said, I simply brought up the only two 'speedy' healing options Bill has at his disposal. I never said he'd be able to use Skuttlebutt in a vs battle though.

Originally posted by Desaad
Ah, I did not remember that. Cool stuff.