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Billy vs Victor.


CIS, CIP, and PIS are off.


Who wins?

Wouldn't be surprised to see Doom hijack the Power of Shazam for himself.

funny how in the power grid
dr doom is a 7 in all categories

Intellengece 7 (which means omniscent)
Strength 7 (uncalculable)
speed 7 (light speed)
durability 7 (indestructable)
energy 7 (Virtually unlimited command of all forms of energy)

Billy stomps.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
funny how in the power grid
dr doom is a 7 in all categories

Intellengece 7 (which means omniscent)
Strength 7 (uncalculable)
speed 7 (light speed)
durability 7 (indestructable)
energy 7 (Virtually unlimited command of all forms of energy)
All of that is crap.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
All of that is crap.

Not if he has prep!

Originally posted by The Nuul
Not if he has prep!
Prep and the full backing of Mindset.

rofl, billy has to learn how to live w.o being cap for a while

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
rofl, billy has to learn how to live w.o being cap for a while

He already is.

are you serious? its a spite CM murders him 10/10 with a single punch wtf?

if there was in fact prep then like stated above im sure Doom would find a way to take the power of shazam

Doom wins.

Billy isn't man enough to challenge him.

What if he says "Shazam!"?

He just wasted his last breath.

Originally posted by kijenio
are you serious? its a spite CM murders him 10/10 with a single punch wtf? then you dont know doom

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
then you dont know doom fanboism

lol

Originally posted by Mindset
Doom wins.

Billy isn't man enough to challenge him.
I just don't see what Doom has on hand that can really defeat Billy. His standard equipment while impressive isn't sufficient to take Billy down and his magic is nothing that Billy can't overcome.

Honestly, in a way, Doom has a better shot against Superman than he does Marvel under the OP. Marvel tanks high end magic like nothing.

Given enough prep doom just jacks his powers.No prep marvel and very easily.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Honestly, in a way, Doom has a better shot against Superman than he does Marvel under the OP. Marvel tanks high end magic like nothing.

Superman would trash Doom. Get serious.

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman would trash Doom. Get serious. Not with prep.

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman would trash Doom. Get serious.



I didn't say he wouldn't.

But Superman has weaknesses for Doom to exploit. Marvel really doesn't in comparison.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Not with prep. doom doesnt know who superman is. the only prep that would help doom is talking to lex

he does know who superman is he meet him in the cross over

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Not with prep.

barker

Who the f*ck said anything about prep?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
But Superman has weaknesses for Doom to exploit. Marvel really doesn't in comparison.

Irrelevant.

Originally posted by batdude123
barker

Who the f*ck said anything about prep? Just saying.With like 4 days prep if doom knows who he is and what his powers are he wins.Any less prep he gets turned into a steaming pile of slag with meat inside.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Just saying.With like 4 days prep if doom knows who he is and what his powers are he wins.Any less prep he gets turned into a steaming pile of slag with meat inside. He wouldn't need 4 days.

Originally posted by Mindset
He wouldn't need 4 days. Thats what I figured but he might need less or more.Doom is unpredictable.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Just saying.With like 4 days prep if doom knows who he is and what his powers are he wins.Any less prep he gets turned into a steaming pile of slag with meat inside.

Not every Doom thread has to do with prep.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he does know who superman is he meet him in the cross over all of a sudden crossovers are cannon ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
all of a sudden crossovers are cannon ? What exactly does canon mean?

Originally posted by chomperx9
all of a sudden crossovers are cannon ?

JLA/Avengers cross over is considered cannon by both marvel and dc....other then that im pretty sure not

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
JLA/Avengers cross over is considered cannon by both marvel and dc....other then that im pretty sure not

It's inadmissible here unless the OP is specifically citing it, though. It's in the KMC Vs Forum Rules, iirc.

Superman's fists are a bigger weakness to Doom than the latter's magic is to Superman.

So the fact. That in marvel the lt references marvel vs dc in a later xmen comic...
And in a dc a green lantern issue it was referneced... To jade by access

makes it non cannon....

Get real

Originally posted by rotiart
So the fact. That in marvel the lt references marvel vs dc in a later xmen comic...
And in a dc a green lantern issue it was referneced... To jade by access

makes it non cannon....

Get real

the Marvel Vs Dc was voted on by fans making it unreal...for instince aquaman beat namor via dropping a whale on him...we both know that would never work...so it's not cannon

EDIT: the entire story was PIS

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah Superman can "weakness exploit" Doom's weakness to being crushed under his own armor like a crumpled beer can FTW. Marvel can too. Seriously...what does canon mean?

Taken from the rules.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Seriously...what does canon mean?
Essentially it means that it happened and effects the character's/story's/setting's continuity. Examples of things that are typically not canon are dreams, imaginary stories, and virtually all crossovers.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Essentially it means that it happened and effects the character's/story's/setting's continuity. Examples of things that are typically not canon are dreams, imaginary stories, and virtually all crossovers. Got it.Thanks.

Arguing continuity is a headache when u consider that post crossover events there are issues that many times reference the crossover....

I personally feel some of them are valid, but then you get into messy debates on which ones to consider valid and which ones to discount. In the end, it's best not to bring most of them up for serious debating, imo.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Taken from the rules.

understood

i was just stating a fact about jla/avengers.....i understand that it is indeed not allowed as evidence on these forms...i was just answering a question another poster had.

Originally posted by rotiart
Arguing continuity is a headache when u consider that post crossover events there are issues that many times reference the crossover....

well i was simply stating that to my knowledge JLA/Avengers was the only one considered Cannon by both company's....while heck in an issue of gambit (when he meets blade) he states....so your the one referred to as the Bat Man....and once earlier in that issue saying call comish Gorden...as to weather you were speaking to me or not idk just thought i would try to clear up my earlier statement as i find myself not always being clear with the things i say....

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I personally feel some of them are valid, but then you get into messy debates on which ones to consider valid and which ones to discount. In the end, it's best not to bring most of them up for serious debating, imo.

I agree

OK BACK TO THE THREAD! I think doom with prep would suer enough conjure up some kind of spell to effect CM and get the win.

Originally posted by BattleMage
OK BACK TO THE THREAD! I think doom with prep would suer enough conjure up some kind of spell to effect CM and get the win.

or possibly capture the lighting to steal the power in some way

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What exactly does canon mean?



"Cannon" its a large gun that fire a big round bowling ball like object.


/nod


Billy 10/10 without prep

doom 7/10 with prep

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I personally feel some of them are valid, but then you get into messy debates on which ones to consider valid and which ones to discount. In the end, it's best not to bring most of them up for serious debating, imo. Good call. Originally posted by BlackZero30x
or possibly capture the lighting to steal the power in some way Billy's powers aren't common knowledge. Marvel is every but a peer a Supes regarding strength, speed, durability and flight. Don't see Doom winning anything without some prep.

(Sorry Mindset )

Doom isn't capturing lighting. Billy is already Marvel for this fight...

Originally posted by Badabing
Billy's powers aren't common knowledge. Marvel is every but a peer a Supes regarding strength, speed, durability and flight. Don't see Doom winning anything without some prep.

(Sorry Mindset )

Doom isn't capturing lighting. Billy is already Marvel for this fight...

indeed...that was more or less a call back to an earlier statement i made in which i stated if he had prep....i had forgotten to put it in this statement!

as to your statement on all but a peer to sups imo he is a peer just not by that noticeable of an amount

Originally posted by BattleMage
OK BACK TO THE THREAD! I think doom with prep would suer enough conjure up some kind of spell to effect CM and get the win.
I think if prep were an issue here Doom would be better off relying on tech rather than magic.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
indeed...that was more or less a call back to an earlier statement i made in which i stated if he had prep....i had forgotten to put it in this statement!

as to your statement on all but a peer to sups imo he is a peer just not by that noticeable of an amount I'd actually like to see Doom prep for Marvel. He's not a typical hero given that his powers are magically/mystically endowed.

Originally posted by Badabing
I'd actually like to see Doom prep for Marvel. He's not a typical hero given that his powers are magically/mystically endowed.

Indeed, I just think that with the magical background that doom has(even though he's typically known to miscalculate from now and again)he could perhaps find away to either siphon off the mystical energy from marvel or absorb the lighting in some way.

Imo he would lose control somehow but i believe he could at least take down marvel before that happens

hmm misread the OP i thought there was prep. billy wins this

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Indeed, I just think that with the magical background that doom has(even though he's typically known to miscalculate from now and again)he could perhaps find away to either siphon off the mystical energy from marvel or absorb the lighting in some way.

Imo he would lose control somehow but i believe he could at least take down marvel before that happens With prep and knowledge of Billy, I'm sure he could get th powers of Shazam.

^ Ovoid Mind Transfer doesn't require prep.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Ovoid Mind Transfer doesn't require prep. forgot about that imba sh*t